I really interesting read gives good sense of where the companys was just a few years ago and forseeing the direction the company is going, very interesting read enjoy
its what everybody has known for quite a while now(outside of the 'Sony super cult' clan),
sony are nothing but the NAME nowadays!!!
How can a company like SOny, make a virtually unknown(L.G) come and snatch it's crown!?!?!(featherweight sparking out a super heavy!?!?!?)
SONY AINT SH*T!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if all u sony suckers will awaken from outta ur COMATOSED states NOW!?!?!?
Just wait till they go bakrupt, MS will buy them, the liquidate em, or 'Nuke Em' if u prefer!! heheh
Chubachi acknowledged Sony had grown overly confident of its cathode-ray tube TV technology, failing to see how slimmer TVs were "an entirely new category."
Chubachi needs to have a few words with Ken and Kaz then. and he needs to poll future purchasers of PS3: then he'd discover that over 90% of them would trade Blu-ray for a $200 cheaper price tag.
The problem with Sony is that they think because it has the Sony name people will buy it no matter what the price. It doesn't happen like that. You have Ken saying that the PS3 is to cheap. Maybe for what he's earning it is. But when most families have to work an entire week to afford a gaming system, that's a problem. Not to many people are making $600 a week. I know that there is also a substantial amount of people that do make that and a lot more but the majority don't and don't forget about all the other bills that these families have. We'll see what happens in November
"In fact, Sony had grown arrogant about designing products that anticipated, rather than followed, consumer tastes," Chubachi said
"Producing a hit without listening to customers is inefficient, and we may even strike out," said Chubachi.
i just don't understand how they can say this with a straight face, and yet FORCE PS3 buyers to purchase Blu-ray for an additional $200.
time to destroy that Mo'fo!!!!!!!!
If sony goes bankrupt its goodbye video games market. M$ are notorious for their underhand tactics and anti-competitive activities.
They'll destroy the market that sony and others has built up over the last 10-15 years.
You fanboys really dont want Sony to fail believe me.
It'll be a whole lot more expensive if M$ corners the market.
Nintendo and Sega built the market 20 years ago I'm sure plenty us will agree, but sony is responsible for alot of its growth into the main stream...so they helped alot but didnt build it
err.. PS3 $600!?!?!?
GET THE FU*K OUTTA HERE!!!!!
You get the FCK out of here.
Just watch what happens when M$ has fk all competition. Then you'll be crying "its too expensive!"
360 core: $300
now, go figure.
fudge. double post.
Kinda like $ony's doing with the PS3 in there eyes their isnt any competition and are abusing they're thire fans and market share buy saying hey were number 1 and our new system is 600$ so go buy it bc were $ony...its not about a games business is about arrogant pricks abusing a fanbase look at the system launch thats comin up about 25 games...then you break it down 14 from EA and a few from activison and some crap from SCEA Motorstorm,Warhawk are you serious give me a break people are excited about a glorified ATV off road and a mediocre game from the psones early years..and thats the reality were all waiting to play the same games weve played before and thats sad
now see, i'm a in the middle guy. i could careless about either Sony or Microsoft. i DO, however, like 360 and will like the PS3. but what i DON'T like is blatant fanboy unfairness. if you're gonna compare prices landofsand, do it with fairness. don't compare the cheapest 360 to the most expensive PS3 as a means to try to prove your point. even with the cheapest PS3 (at $500) you're getting more than you would with the premium 360, Blu-ray notwithstanding. now, whether or not you want a Blu-ray player is the question.
thats merely a matter of taste omansteveo. if you wanna comment about Sony being arrogant then you'll get no arguments from me. but when you start attacking games, two of which (Warhawk and ATV Offroad) were lauded in their heyday, then your argument is dead in the water.
My argument is valid for the fact that im not arguing that those games werent okay in their day im arguing the fact that people are paying 600$ to play those again, yeah in their day awesome for the next generation its not $ony is claiming to be top of the game but they're reaching deep in the vault just to rehash...my point is that it would be totally different if they were alot of cool original games at launch and not re-hashes and not the 3,4,5,6th interations of alot of title i would be more excited ya know
besides Kameo, what original games did the 360 have at launch? imo 360's light didn't really start to shine until GRAW, months after its launch. i'm not interested in Motostorm myself, but Warhawk is a whole nother story. the game has been in hiatus for nigh 10 years, so i don't really see how it can even be considered a rehash, especially since the original was so great. and if Incognito can deliver on their promise of in-depth 3rd person shooter action (and i have naught but faith in Incognito) then yes, Warkawk could be considered a great launch title. Resistance may not be original, but that doesn't mean the game won't be good, considering it's developer's resume is excellent and distinguished. you can't bash a system until you try it. that is my prime complaint with fanboys. most 360 fanboys bash PS3, which isn't even OUT yet: while most PS3 fanboys bash 360, which they PROBABLY don't even own.
i never bashed the ps3 ever i merely stated i was unhappy with the content and yes thats my opinion and yada yada...i loved my psone i became unhappy with the ps2 i didnt think the experiences were as good and i quickly started to see a trend of games i had played on my psone having sequals and reiterations i wasnt happy so i bought the other 2 systems that had original content period...never in my article did i say one rained supreme over the other
sorry about that omansteveo. i wasn't trying to imply that you were a fanboy. its just that on this site its hard not to get used to all of the bickering that goes on between both camps, and read fanboyism within it. with the exception of some of the greats (MGS, FF, GT etc) you'll get no argument from me that sequel get old rather fast. i just don't agree with you about Warhawk. the original is so old and so long forgotten that the new one can almost be considered a new IP.
The 360 core is sh*t
The Ps3 core is still great with a blu-ray player and hard-drive
Xbox 360 premium: $400
PS3 Core: $500
"Problem was, Sony engineers seemed more enamored with the extravagantly priced technology than consumers were, and the products meant to highlight Sony's fine-tuned prowess received little interest beyond the initial gee-whiz."
oh how things change.
All u xbox fanboys only care about how good the gfx are.
I mean you're about as shallow as your fking console.
IF the xbox360 is so damn good why u replying day in day out to ps3 posts???
we like to remind you of your impending loss of $600 for a half-a$$ed gaming machine.
Its about $ony's business model Past/Present and Future period not just the PS3 this is free reign for anyone who has an opinion about it
You all want the ps3 to fail. I guess this is more about country loyalty than brand loyalty right?
The good old US of A. LOL.
You always come in late to a fight and then declare yourselves the winner hehe.
Read the article
Thats the problem tho. I'm not following any damn company here.
I care about gameplay and fun more than the whizzbang gfx on either ps3 or x360.
I can't wait till nintendo brings back the reason why we play games in the first place. For FUN!
Instead of looking at pretty pics on your HDTVs and thinking "WOW i wish i was having fun right now too"
I agree with you on the graphics part but when you buy new tech you want your purchase justified in the videogame world graphics just happen to be the main focus im sad to say but were are all the people calling eachother names and bashing eachother for buying dvd players over VHS bc the picture is better or the the who buy 5.1 sound bc they want a theater expirence ya know
"i advise u 2 step son, b4 i fu*k ur moms, make u my step-son, u'll be callin me dad-boy, the ragamuffin u'll soon say, ya'll fu*k around with brother numsay, ya'll gonna see DOOMSDAY!!"
they've brought nothing to the game, except glitz and glamma!!!
after the dust settles tho, all they do is wait and see wot everyone else does, then swagger jacks it!!!
that means they have no form of originality in the whatsoever, and for snuufin sega, they need to feel that same PAIN!!!!!
Ms has brought NOTHING to the game moron. updated graphics is all MS is offering over the xbox 1.0 ,NOTHING NEW.
nothing new? thats why sony keep copying all they do. they should just call it Playstation360...
Please dont do this to this thread dc i think your cool alot of the time i dont what your talking about but its hilarious and Gametime just be more realistic when you make comments...bc without M$ who knows if online gaming on console would have been as popular as it is today and without Sony who knows if we would have enjoyed all those great experinces from the psone so chill out and converse in peace
i'm staying out of this one...
1. Unparralleld Online gaming
2. Unparralleld network communities
3. music streaming
4.hd movie streaming
5. Removable hardrive
6. a machine that whenever I put a game/dvd in, loads 1st FU*KIN time!!
how about those few??!!
gametime - 32 Minutes ago
Ms has brought NOTHING to the game moron. updated graphics is all MS is offering over the xbox 1.0 ,NOTHING NEW. [[You're not very smart are you?.]
Sometimes i really doubt if THELANDOFSAND and a few others here got a 360 yet lol! they posting 24/7
my gamertag is THELANDOFSAND
And I talk to him in XBL and get messages from him... Mine is lucidmantra, and I can vouch for almost ALL my xbots here as I run the n4g 360 gamer group.
Dude! chill and don't worry about what others post lol. And i have no idea what you're talking about when you say if it wasn't for PS1?, i never owned a PlayStation.
Sometimes i think "kingboy" has no life he's always worried about what others say 24/7, i just have never really seen a post from this guy unless it's talking sh!t about the other camp.
its because he throws crappy shows for sony.
this is his cash vanishing before him!
look cover girl, i never called u into this or mention ur name..keep ya distance
lol..like there`s no nintendo or microsoft..
b4 I come round ur house, and BURN ur washing!!!
hey!COVERGIRL u wanna chat sometime?lol! we could talk about xbox that wouldn`t bother me much..hit me baby!
How can "Sony" an "AOL" type company truly change fast enough to do any good.
i highly doubt that it can because Sony is being out Japanesse Business Modeled by the Chinese, Tijuana Mexico is also the largest manufacturer of televisions in the world (for Chinese and Japanese companies) They are being outfoxed at their own game. Japan is starting to suffer from the same issues as US companies have as the living rate becomes so bloated from their rise to the top economically that they will suffer as US companies do as their jobs goto China, Mexico, India, and Taiwan.
Great stuff hopefully more pics will be added its really addicting lookin at um all
Sony's going for an LG-ish(innovative), Toshiba-ish(great high quality TV's ect). image.
you xlemmings can say what you want, sony has the best quality and the best design. you are only envy.
Yah! just like the other PlayStations. PS will end world huger.
sony and nintendo have been around for 60 and 80 plus years.microsoft should hope to last that long.they are on track as their software is in many products.sony just has to adapt and with stringer on board,they just might.the problem was that all the divisions didn't work together.football teams don't win if everyone on the team hasn't seen the playbook and shares the plays.sharing ideas with the rest of the company is a good start.i don't see why the thread has gotten so many negative comments unless the thread was created to do so.be gamers.because i'd bet some of you had or still use sony products in your houses in some form.
is that sony shipped their next gen console a year after their competition and 9 months late. enjoy playing catch up to the #1 next gen console... 360!
yo wuts tha deal with all these posts, its like a tug-of-war going on in here. 360 aint sh*t, PS3 aint sh*t. yall sound like some skool kids argueing over who new race car toy is better when they are essentially they same thing.
tha PS3 prolly aint sale as us PS3 fans would want it to sale, but its definitly is gonna stand toe to toe with tha 360 no matter wut price tags or any BS somecomes up with. NOONE decides out the blue that there are gonna get a $600 piece of technology. most ppl who are going to buy it have save up tha 600 need plus extra for games and other accessories. yeah its has hardware flaws, major ones, but you dont need to be worried bout that unless your a gamedeveloper. and with all those flaws, its games are still matching and or surpassing the 360's. my ONLY problem with the PS3 is that is has the potiential of being anuther PS1/PSx/PS2, breaking or not working properly just after the warranty is up, those Sons of b!tches. And even if it does break, ill prolly just get anuther one or get it fixed just like you if your 360 broke.
my comments on the 360. its basically IS a xbox 1.5. wut? an updated CPU and GPU, a design change putting the HHD on the outside and the ability to customize the case, wait you could already do that one. and 360 generally mean that you've turn completely around in one circle all the back to tha piont from which your started. tha only way you can claim thing is a part 2 of the original is if its completely different from part 1. i can say this cuz i own this console and already am i bored with it now im waitin to get gears of war which is gonna tight as hell.
and thos nasty lil comments bout sony copyin everybody and not being original, just how fuc*in original can you get? not to far b4 you get otterly rediculous and useless fuctions.
people say sony copy others because...
don't put that freaking CORE system with a PS3 premium! It's got a LOT more than that freaking CORE. If you wanna compare nething...compare the 400 dollar 20 gig and the 500 dollar 20 gig. THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE, EH STONER?
want to play next gen for 300? you wont EVER do it one a PS3. You talk hardware, but forget GAMES.
i was putting the price in some SHARP detail. people walk into a store, they see warhawk and gears of war on display. they see the 360's core price as less than $300 and the PS3's top line as $600. Then they see most of the games are on both systems. which do you think they will choose?
I hate to admit it, but dc's right...we gotta leave covergirl alone. NO MORE SEXUAL HARASSMENT!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm sorry guys, i'm going insane today...not like i was sane...
maybe you should go lie down and think of ken kuturagi lounging naked over a PS3, or whatever your happy place is...
I think they're gonna go with the PS3...because believe it or not...some of us AREN'T stoned at the moment...
like the 5 million who bought 360?
oh yes, they were all smoking...
Dude...STFU. I like all three companies. You're being a biased moron!
no, you are apparently, if you think the core version cannot be compared to the $600 PS3.
I don't CARE that 5 million bought a 360! We have NO idea of what the PS3 can do right now and i'm pretty sure Sony knows what it's doing. This happens EVERY time a new system launches. It gets a LOT of controversy. Where the HECK were you before the 360 launched. It got way more crap than this! Just WAIT till the ps3's out. Then, you can judge the FRICK outa the system and me.
it CAN'T BE! How dumb are you? The 600 ps3 comes with a LOT more than the core 360!
but it doesn't play games any differently, if you go looking for a games machine you would be able to play next gen at less than 300 right now, on 360. $500 and $600 are a big step for many people for what is basically a gaming machine (or a blu-ray player and half-assed gaming feature). the core can also be upgraded later by a consumer, unlike the 499 PS3 which has parts removed that cannot be replaced.
Land of Sand...we really gotta stop this or we could get kicked off...so, i'm sorry bro, and good luck with the 360. It's a good peice of hardware.
well, i haven't been kicked off yet. yes, the 360 is a good piece of hardware. but its the games that make it killer. GRAW, COD2, PGR3, Halo 3, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Fable 2, Forza 2, Lost planet...
then you add live play, it really is SO much fun. Live may be the best thing on 360. it takes games to a whole new level.
I just really keep looking at sony, and PS3 and thinking a lot of people are going to be disapointed by the options sony have choosen for them. We don't even know the offical specs, and it launches in 3 months!