Fourth-quarter earnings report Thursday demonstrated that the software giant is firing on all cylinders going into fiscal 2008.
VERY good read!
It's well thought put and the analyst has done well in preparing it all fluantly.
But when you look at all the games coming out in the next 5 months alone, it's undeniable MS are going to get profits soaring off the charts.
It would be good to see Xbox 360 vs. Wii if the Wii didn't have all the hype surrounding it, it wouldn't be selling half as much as it is.
Amen Brother! This Fall & Christmas are going 2B SICK for the Xbox360 !
Next 4 1/2 months: MASS EFFECT, HALO3, BIOSHOCK, TWO WORLDS, ASSASSIAN'S CREED, COD4, GRAND THEFT IV WITH EXTRA CONTENT, MADDEN 2008, NCAA 2008@60fps...
2008: TOO HUMAN, DARK SECTOR, ALAN WAKE, FABLE 2, HALO WARS, DARKSIDERS, FORCE UNLEASHED, HAZE, UT3, DMC4, RE5 ... MAYBE - DARE I SAY: GEARS OF WAR 2 ?!?
Nice to see an article on this site based on real world numbers, not flamer opinions! All M$ needs 2 do is a pricecut B4 Chistmas, Lookout Wii !!!
MORE 2008 ?!? - The Marvel mmo, NG2, Doa5, Wolfenstein 360 and Project Offset,........ Thanks candystop, omansteveo, & Stiffler203 !!
EDIT: OMG, I can't keep up - people keep adding to the Xbox360 2008 lineup that has no games - plz read below:
Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, Too Human, Etc are all still there for 2008.
Keep waiting kid, FFXIII's coming in what, 2009? My, your kind have a long wait for a game.
I love how every Sony Fanboy thinks Microsoft has nothing to offer next year. As the guy said above Fable 2, Too Human, Alan Wake, GTA exclusive content, Haze, UT3, and maybe even GOW 2. Plus lots of games yet to be mentioned but yeah your right no games next year for the Xbox 360.
RE5.DMC4.GOW2.Halo Wars.Too Human.
You forgot to mention The Marvel mmo, NG2, Doa5, Wolfenstein 360 and Project Offset which will not be possible on PS3 from what I've seen so far lol!
Test Drive Unlimited 2... the best online game ever IMO
possibly Thesis,and Elveon don't forget to add those. But yeah he's right ..heh no games
While I love my 360 and I am really looking forward to all the games being released this year, lets face it, the MS console division is loosing cash left right and center - I seriously doubt there will be a price cut anytime soon - they just don't have to - sony is still more expensive than the 360 and they have lost so much money recently with the extended warranty and all the cash going for the GTA episodic content, they won't put themselves in the postion of having a price cut untill they really have too. And IMO, that is no time soon.
What I believe we will start to see is that you will just get more for the same money.
Read the article.
Microsoft have been making so much cash that the recent $1.2 billion set back is nothing to them, add the estimates they're set too be making in in Q3+Q4 this year alone and they could easily buy more of that GTAIV DLC time and time again.
You're also forgetting all that reserved money for the 'Xbox Project'. The majority is still there.
I did - doesn't it refer to MS as an entire company? My comments refer to the 360 division only and I still stand by them.
The 360 division can only exist at this point as MS as an entire company is making sh!tloads of money, the gaming division has, and IMO, will always be in the red. Hell, it is no big deal to me or you as MS can afford to have such a huge outgoing while still remaining profitable as a whole. I personally don't care if it is profitable or not - as long as the games are great, I'll still be there.
On the subject of a price drop I believe that there is no need for them to have a price drop at any point this year until the PS3 becomes a serious contender for them. Until then, I truly believe that you will just get more for the same price.
You realize that those are just estimates, and could just as easily go the other way. You are jumping to conclsuions. Do you know anything about stocks? if they dont meet those estimates, than their stock will fall. Its how it usually works. Companies like MS, and Intel (really big companies money-wise) are usually really slow movers. And this article is talking about MS as a whole, not just the Xbox division. And of course Kramer and Goldman Sachs is going to talk it up, for they are one in the same. Kramer came from there. And they are both known to be some of the biggest screws in the business.
I keep having to Edit my post & adding the 2008 titles I'm forgeting to mention (that you guys brought up - RE5, DMC4, HAZE, UT3 - that's 4 more) ! Too many games to keep up with !
Also, sure, the console division has had some losses, but they are *also* making TONS of cash off XBL & the Marketplace & Advertizing to offset those losses. Plus, M$'s software sales are higher than even the Wii's & that's the big bucks. Moreover, M$ has stated over & over they are in it to win - when competition drops their price, even if you are beating them 2-1, it can make good business sense to drop the price & go for the jugular. Plus, come Sept. '07, the cost of Manufactoring the Xbox360 will decrease by 50% thanks to the 65nm chipsets. How much $$$ do you think Sony is losing off of their bluray console ?
that's another thing some losses? More like SH!TLOADS of losses and to be fair, i don't care if they lose money or not, as long as the games are good, i'll still buy them.
Live - while I don't particularly like the Microtransaction thing, I can grudgingly accept them. But what really gets me is the advertising aspect to them. I pay for live every year, I don't want to pay for advertisments. So not only do you have to pay for content, playing onlice, but you still get a service that is highly subsidised by advertising.
Yep they certainly are making money from live and the marketplace and as it is one of the few outlets that they make money at the moment, they certainly are and will continue to use this as a money making outlet - just how much do you think they are going to charge for the GTA episodic content? Don't get me wrong, I'll end up buyng it, but I can still certainly b!tch about it.
I don't believe that the manufacturing costs of the 360 will drop by half, but they certainly will drop. But again, I still truly believe that you will still just get more for the same money. It is not big deal, it is better value.
i wonder why xbots is namin mulitplatform games..lol..the 360 will not make any money on the 360 that for sure.microsoft is in it to lose it...sony always lose money but they always gain it back in the end..ps1 and ps2 gain back money and makin billions on it..xbox dead!! no profit...360 goin to be dead soon.they have a chance but the blew it by releasing crappy hardware..
There is no exclusive games on the 360 comin out next year in 0'8..i can name only 3..all the other is multiplatform i can get it on my ps3..and ill be able to play it without no worries..lol..
by next year there be another 2 million broken 360 or more..lol..
We are listing *a few* multiplat games because some Sony Tool above said we have no games for 2008. By the way, I think you 2 are lost, this is an Xbox360 thread, I think there is a PS3 thread around here for you to go Flame On with the other 10 year olds.
Ahhh, the Sony Fantard, an illiterate breed of fools.
Gears of War 2
Banjo Kazooie 3
Exclusive, Episodic GTAIV DLC
Absolute Blazing Infinity
All Points Bulletin
Art of War
Dead Rising 2 (Maybe)
Lost Planet 2 (Maybe)
I can keep going?
3 Year Warranty
The past 1.5 years and the next 1.5 years have and will continue to be, amazing for the Xbox 360.
There's seems to be a ton of Sony fans like yourself trolling around lately just causing trouble! When will you guys learn that 360 fans really don't care and thats why most of us don't even bother to disagree with Sony famboys! You see we know we have better hardware and software from a games standpoint and can't wait for the day you kick yourself for being so blind! 360 is the best console hands down!
Games, games, games, and more games! :D
While i think both the 360 and ps3 are amazing, you can't argue that 360 has the better lineup of games. for every exclusive sony fanboys say they have, the 360 has 3 at least. when it comes to games 360 rules.
Well said Rubarb and very true!
To all Sony fanboys. Ramping, raving, b1tchin and cryin won't get you nowhere. For the past couple of weeks, there has been strength in the fanboy syndrome on this site. This site is dedicated to news in the industry. Not to hear 70-80% fanboys screaming "this system sucks, it's doomed, etc,etc.... MS has enough zeroes to put on any check that they can write. Yes the 360 hardware is in troubled waters and they about to move out. Just as much Sony still treading water. The "FACT" is MS has a strong lineup for the ending season. We are all gamers and love gaming. Grow-up for a change and say something worth while. I wish the best for Sony & MS. But you fanboys are killing this website with your rhetoric. And this goes for the same to 360 fanboys also (vise versa).
Anyway, Congrats to MS. For being diverse and finding a solution for the 360 issues.
all I care about is the new 65nm chip that supposed to be implemented into the systems this fall BUT WHEN>! I don't wanna have the 3 red lights again when I'm playng all those great games like Bioshock and halo 3. If it's in all systems by august I'm buying the new falcon model.
ya I know that's what I meant I don't need a f!cking lecture I'm just saying I'm sick of having a ticking time bomb, and I need some assurance here, and I think the "falcon" can gurantee that.
There isn't a 'Falcon' Model. You're thinking of something like Premium, or the Elite.
The Falcon was the codemane given to the hardware testing of the motherboard revision that's being put into the Core, Premium and Elite models.
Hope that cleared it up.
I like to compare Microsoft to a successful sports team...They invested in the Xbox division like a football team did in a Quarterback getting paid a lot of money that hasn't produced. Or a basketball player that hasn't lived up to its end....The team (MS shareholders) have been asking for the Xbox division to perform and show something-anything...and hasn't and likely won't in the future. There is a BIG reason why Xbox focused on 07 only...it's because they know they're "all in" with their chips...I have to applaud Peter Moore for getting out while he could...I think MS will be around in the gaming industry..just not in the hardware industry (see Sega). I already know that the "xbox fans" are going to jump down everyones throat but if you know the financial industry it's just not happening..for instance go google the word "roger ehrenberg forbes xbox" and you'll get a major breakdown long before the 360 woes...i am willing to bet ANYONE that shareholders are asking them to pull the plug on the hardware as we speak...There are WAY TOO MANY shakeups and their no coincidence...im not saying Robbie Bach pulling out stocks, Moore jumping ships, e3 showing focusing on 07, 360 sales on pace of original xbox, continues to show no profit, will never gain market share, failure rates may end up disclosed after many lawsuits and class actions, never win in japan and europe, the list goes on...oh and did i say shareholders will ask for them to pull the plug...Teams that put in an investment on a player that doesn't perform tend to move on...At least you can save your 360 as an antique machine....It was good while it lasted
got to love how all the one bubble fanboys spout something retarded, than it takes 5 other people to shut them down.
Doesn't seem that much different from the rest. Good news for MS.
Well, it seems Xbox 360 is beating Sony in what really cares, games, in 2007 MS FTW and I cannot wait for 2008 announcements (more Sakaguchi games like Cry-on, Halo Wars from Ensemble, Fable 2, Too Human, Alan Wake, Gears of War 2, Banjo-Kazooie 3, and a Huge etc...)
I hope MGS4 lasts forever, and good luck waiting forever for Final Fantasy XIII. The people who actually likes to play games, is getting ready for Bioshock, Lost Odissey, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Two Worlds, etc...
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