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Yea they almost look like computer animated graphics (CGI).
I do suspect though PGR4 did have some pre rendered scenes in it.. I.e. The begining bike and the end bike. The first one has extra animation has way more parts showing vs. the end bike being real basic.
It still looks good though but I think burnout paradise and Midnight club 4(?) will outsell all of these.
...only on the PLAYSTATION 3.
while i know pgr4 is aimed at being arcad-ish... i found it weird that on bikes the back brake is on the right hand foot (heel) and hes doing a power slide...i wonder how hes keeping his balance..i dunno i stopped liking those kinda games at 15 :/
-edit i also think the maker of this video shouldve used the trailers for all the games (talking about FM2 being a replay)
Please STFU. i hate you and everyone else that ruins this site with fanboyism.
why diagree with kingofps3. GT looks significantly better than forza and PGR4. this is just fact and it really shows since GT5 goes 1st. They are all great but in comparison to GT5 greatness falls to meh!
i hate to break it to you 'fandroids' but they call the gt video prologue for a reason , that being thats its the opening movie of the game and not an actual in-game replay of a race, both Forza and PGR showed real ingame. And yes if you pay attention to the overhead view in the gt part you will notice that they still use 2d trees.
clearly GT5 is leaps and bounds better than Forza 2/PGR4 with pastic cars
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haha seriously nice description. I will approve this even though i believe this is absolutely unfair. GT is the greatest racin sim of all time(at least on consoles) period. Forza and PGR try but just arent there yet. You should have probably put the GT video last cause now it just makes forza look like crap. Not saying it is crap but after GT 5 forza just dosent look good any more
Forza 2 is the best racing game, not GT. Forza might not have the graphics that GT does but it sure has good gameplay.
It's not really a comparison. Playing three trailers, one after the other. I say wait until all three are out and then compare them with the same car on Nurburgring under the same weather and maybe some split screen. Gametrailers will probably do one of their comparisons later on when all games are out.
I wanted to report this for exactly the same reason... This is not comparison.
Oh, I just noticed that the video is uploaded by supnub5, who also submitted it here.
no comparison they all look great except GT5 is more realistic. GT is the omnipotent racing game. Im crossing my fingers for online play this time around
yeah of course and gameplay except if u wanna argue about car damage, GT is the real driving simulator
You talking about looks, right?
Limited performance tuning, unrealistic understeer and oversteer and that includes the the UNREALISTIC oversteer snap you would get in any car, no visual tuning, 100 different types of skyline, but hardly any good super cars, no tire smoke, no tire marks on track, no sense of speed (thats a fact), crap A.I, unrealistic tirewear. Thats sums up the Gran turismo series for what it is, and people really think, i should say droids. That GT5 will be any different hahahaha Keep dreaming. GTR2 and Forza 2 are the only TRUE driving sims out there.
We have had this argument time and time again. JUST BECAUSE A RACER HAS DAMAGE DOSENT JUST QUALIFY IT TO BE REAL. Like it or not visuals play a significant part in the realism factor as well. GT didnt have the best A.I. i won't lie about that but this will be improved in GT 5 prologue. All thats left is damage and just like you probably won't substitute your forza for not having visuals up to par with GT i won't substitute GT for something as trite as car damage. When i play GT i don't cheat and drive on walls i drive on the road and don't hit cars so the lack of damage dosent really affect me. Like it or not the only thing forza has on GT is damage period everything else GT totally kills forza
DUde the cars in GT drive like they have saggy titties. it is fun tho.
PGR4 wins me over out of the 3, looks like the most fun, with the insane weather system where puddles and snow etc. affect the race, motor cycles are racing cars, and you can do stunts on the bikes. sweet
GT:HD has a lot of options to adjust like tire tread, or Automatic Stability Control. (which most modern cars have) It's realistic in more than just graphics.
GTR2 is an apart case. They just see it as official, cause FIA told so... More people spread this out with never had really played the game... It's good, for sure, but not "real" drive simulator as most people wold expect from a FIA-signed game, it's not like go with a real car.
About Forza 2, you can't compare driving with the last GT (GTHD), cause it's not a new-gen game, but a hi-def version of one race track and some few cars of GT4 on even the same engine, with very little mods. For told that driving is better in Forza 2 than in a GT, everybody will have to wait 'till a new-gen GT, most right if wait for GT5 full version, but I think that Prologue will be enough to let us get a better idea of this "what game drives best" thing.
Anyway, even if Forza gets more real driving than GT, that don't really matter. If be that real would be so important, Enthusia could be more famous than those 2 games in the last-gen. Too real, could be frustrating, that is a ideal measure, when it's comfortable to play, in the wheel as in the joypad. That must be considered.
I had no Idea GT5: Prologue looked so good, it's the best looking of the bunch. It seems polyphony was able to maintained that remarkable photo-realism with more than 1 cars on track...
PGR4 looks sick because of the dynamic weather (reminds me of formula 1) and those freakin' bikes!!.. wish GT had bikes, but it has formula 1 cars
Forza can't contend with the big guns of Racing
ok you are going to have to give me a bubble because I just waisted one of my two bubbles to prove something to you. :P
Although true Gran Turismo fans don't want bikes in GT they want the game to stick the simulation.
http://www.meristation.com/... look at the image below lad.
For me, although PGR4 looks nice I give it to Gran Turismo 5 prologue because by far has the best graphics.
1920 x 1080 resolution at 60 frames per second.
Damage will be in GT5 and Kaz has talked about physics since the very beginning before GT5 was known as Gran Turismo Vision.
Kaz even hinted at user created content for the game. Like spolers hoods and stuff the user could do along side companies that wanted to create content for the player.
the first scene on the first GT5 prologue trailer is the same as the on e in GT4 but in [email protected]
i favour gt5 prologue but pgr4 looks fun especially the super bikes(wheelies) If gt5 has bikes ill buy it for sure...bikes just make it good fun for me.
All this person has done is upload 3 trailers into one and submit it as 'news'. The purpose of News is to broadcast informative information towards the unaware audience.
This is just crap made by some user who wants to shed some facial in the limelight.
When comes to realism = winner is forza 2
Graphics winner = Pgr4
you must really hate anything that doesn't bear an Xbox logo on the case... if it makes you feel good downplaying GT5s extraordinarily realistic visuals, than you keep doing that.. hey, if you behave maybe ur mom will buy u a Ps3.. maybe
like, i said previously though.. for weather, PGR takes the cake for now
with 2d trees and high grass and no damage.
have you even seen a trailer of Gran Tourismo this gen? It makes forza look like crap...i got GTHD on my ps3 and everytime i come out of the tunnel it always amazes me
GT5 hands down has the best graphics. It's not even debatable. Forza 2 has exceptional simtastic gameplay but I grew bored with it so fast because of the lack of new tracks. I usually enjoy PGR the most and now with the addition of bikes it's going to be a total blast. I can't wait to give both PGR4 and GT5 a spin! Again GT5 has mind blowing graphics, I just hope the gameplay matches graphics. I can do without car damage but I really hope this game is online.
In my opinion GT5 takes it on realism. PGR4 has great weather effects since we havent seen any from GT yet. And Forza too is mehhhh.... I really hope they change the physics engine for GT5 though and add a little more life to the racing along with my tuning options. Because the past Gran Turismo's where great visual..... as for action gameplay. I think playing GT and Laying in a coma where on the same level of excitement. OOhhh yeah and Online play would be a very big plus.
So Polyphony never had a problem doing great graphics...but for god sake up the gameplay please...more action.
Agreed. I think GT has the best looking car models, probably the best engine sounds too judging on prior installments. But it misses on the true sense of speed & gameplay other titles have delivered on, as well as the aforementioned atmosphereic weather patterns in PGR4. Graphics are nice, but you keep playing great games because of the Gameplay.
Bottom line, these are just car games & all of them look great this gen. Choose what style suits you best - there are no winners & no losers IMHO.
I used to be die hard GT back in the day, now I'd rather have fun with my friends online playin' Burnout !
i say they all win to me :) good days to be a gamer.
High Five! :'( no?
Bad day to be a gamer is when your a fanboy so protective over a system because they dont know what there missing out on.
High Five! :) yes lol
Can't we get a comparison of some GAMEPLAY. Seriously, all those videos look great but there all, what's the word... Cutsences (where's the HUD?). And we all know that cutscenes don't really demonstrate a games actual graphics, man.
SO, what does that mean? It means we got a pointless thread that's sure to become a flameware... SWEET.
Yeah, it may be USING in-game assets, but I would like to see some actual GAMEPLAY, not cutscenes.
All three were made with their actual in-game engines. That being said, PGR4 ftw because of its dynamic weather effects.
they where all in game but replays i think.
I can tell you that the forza 'replay' looks exactly like the gameplay does. As for the other two, who knows. As far as best simulator, if GT5 has no damage then I can't see anyone saying it's the best. **IN FACT, I'm confused how anyone can argue GT5 or PGR4 is the best at anything having not played it or seen gameplay footage. As far as PGR4 goes we know that one is more arcade than sim.
yeah it might become a flamewar, but really all I saw was 3 great looking games, yeah I would say PGR4 and GT5 have more polished graphics than Forza2 but Forza2 has been out for a couple months already and its a stellar racing game in the gameplay dept.....I'm sure the other two will be great in there own way, but if these vids are any indication of whats to come than we can say without a doubt that both games at least have the visuals nailed.
Yeah Gt5 looked off the chain but PGr4 looked good also! I want to see the games compared when your behind the wheel and don't think this is the best way to judge!
That's all I was saying. Its okay to compare different games- although, trying to include Forza in the mix is pretty cheap since it was out a long time ago and was focused mainly on solid gameplay mechanics- but lets compare footage from someone actually playing the damn thing! Not just looking at cutscenes or, excuse me, REPLAYS
GT definitely looks the best. EVERYTHING looks good. that 2nd trailer just sucked and PGR4 had good details, but not all-around. they shouldve made the first person look more realistic. GT:Prologue is only pieces of crap from what's to come in GT5. just imagine how much better the full game GT5 will be when it comes in 08'
GT looks visually the best, but I don't know about you - but I would love to play PGR4. The weather effects, and the tight races between the bikes and cars just looks crazy fun
I was surprised someone would actually argue with me about the realism of GT, come on obviously these people havent spent time with the game since part 1 came out. I play a lot of racers and its safe to say GT is the best and most realistic game ever, sans car damage. and i dont know who would want to see thier car incurring damage, not the manufacturers for sure.
Most realistic... NO!!! Play GTR2 and richard burns rally and R factor and live for speed.... They are the most realistic, with the forza series just behind them... BUT GRAN TURISMO the most realistic???? hehehehe thats funny... was that a joke
In the real world, if you drive your car into the wall, what happens? Do you win the race? Not trying to start an argument, but why would you be surprised that someone questioned your 'GT5 most realistic' opinion? I can tell you that forza online benefits because of damage, players think twice before they smash their way to the front. Now thats realistic racing.
dude ive never driven a virtual car that i didnt want to crash the hell out of and do all the crap I cant do driving in real life. GT has the most realistic looks, cant argue that, but there are racers that play more realistically. Gran Turismo games always have that floaty, drifty feel on the cars, they fvcking slide everywhere, and i can win races by slamming the gas and riding the walls. I love the games cause they have a crapload of cars you can get and its a fun game, but the cars dont exactly handle "realistic"
Complete nonsense I think Forza's the only game thats actual gameplay but if i had to judge PGR4 looks fantastic in and out but like i said Forza was the only game shown with replay footage?.
Maybe i'm wrong i dont have a PS3; is GT real gameplay or a replay of gameplay and if so why is if flashing scene to scene like PGR4 but not doing it in the Forza footage due to it being real replays of real gameplay?.
there is a gameplay video floating on the French site with the Audi R8 racing at the Le Mans track...it looks the same...the video has 2 full laps of the track...this kid just used the trailer instead, which was the second trailer for the "prologue"...
the 1st trailer definitely has some CGI in it...the 2nd appears not to...the first one has the 350ZR sitting in a garage with some dudes working on it...and if that is gameplay, its the most realistic looking graphics...ever...but I doubt it is...the car leaves the pits, and then it starts flashing some gameplay stuff apperantly...
just letting you know that there is a gameplay video around...thats all...
hahah outta control, well i geuss everyone is entitled to their own misguided opinions. even though i wont change your opinion, ill say that the producers spend vast amounts of time researching the car physics and such, and most likely none of us have ever driven in most of the cars that appear in GT so its safe to say that none of know what the true car physics are to begin with.
edit: bumping into walls isnt advised if you want to be good at a game like GT, so if your gonna argue that in real life that bumping into walls and incurring damage warrants realism you will have to try harder, better yet go pick up a copy of GT4
Still, looks good, but crappy music...
But to be honest, GT 5 has the most REALISTIC graphichs when looking only at the car models. However, one should point out how plain the enviornment looks compared to PGR 4, which truly nails down the weather effects.
Visuals- 1. PGR4 2.GTR 3.____________ 4. Forza (distant third)
Keep in mind that in PGR not only the cars look sweet (so sweet that SONY actully has used them in promoting GTR), but also the backgrounds.
GTR looks awesome but the backgrounds are not as detailed.
Forza is probably the most realistic sim on a console as far as physics, tunning, etc. But graphics wise it sucks. Besides FPS, there nothing in this game than a casual gamer would appreciate.
But, please leave Forza 2 alone! (If you can't tell, I really like Forza 2) Look, Forza 2 may not have the supreme graphics (if you want that go purchase DIRT- seriously that should satisfy your graphic appettite) but the gameplay rocks and in the end that's all that really matters. So, Forza 2 really shouldn't have been brought up since its focuses on a totally different aspect than PGR 4 and GT 5.
GT5 Not real the PGR4 footage was also tampered with although nothing beats PGr4's all around graphics.LOL
EDIT: #30 you will lose every race in Forza 2 if what you say was true. lol
#28.2 LLLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL.... These pic of PGR4 are so plastic looking(PUN)
All three have superb graphics and all are really close to matching gt5, but still it has photorealistic graphics.
Edit: damn people i can't please before on my UT3PS3 vs. GOW360 you said i made 360 and gears of war look bad, so in this video i putted best videos of these 360, and now your saying that i just putted 3 videos on the same thing.
Thats a FACT.
I knew I didn't need to take this seriously as soon as I heard cRAP playing. FFS there's still the trailer's music playing in the background. There's not even any editing/cutting done either. Lets all just slap trailers on the ends of each other and upload them to the internet.
Plus the background music is like a 3 year old rap song (rap, ugh- sorry, if that offends you- I like some artists)
Edit: to Mr. Husso
ARGHHHH! have you even played the game. It does NOT look like an "xbox 1.5" game, you ignoramus. Granted, it doesn't look as good PGR or GT, but that's BECAUSE the totally genuis devlopers were focused mainly on game-f^cking-play. Meaning, the game doesn't need to rely on super hi-def graphics, so please leave FOrza out of this.
yes i HAD to mute it. i would have gone out of my head... that aside... i think forza is getting an unfair shake here. the other 2 both are probably done in engine but are not in-game where as forza is in-game AND forza has MANY more things going on besides just eye candy. i think as far as most realistic racer aside from pretty visuals forza will probably be #1 as far as most fun i would say pgr4 and best looking well duh gt5
froza looks like a Xbox 1.5 game.
but pgr has some kool weather effects and they have bikes.
Gt5 might look a little better but it's boring, no weather effects no vehicle damage, nothing. pgr4 all the way, plus its coming in september and when is gt5 coming out? 2017?
Ok asshole I didn't mean just a little tid-bit of gameplay, I'm talking about the whole f!cking game, so STFU before you speak.
Rhezin GT:5 Prologue comes out in October
I would say 3017.
Edit: @TheMART, good points... GT does play like sh*t. These idiot droids need to know that.
The comparison is for Prologue...at least GT5 prologue's car textures look better. The cars look like actual metal and glass while Forza's cars look like shiny plastic and the windows look like the top of the board game Trouble.
man classical music, i havent heard that for years, thanx man, if i werent lazy i would bubble u supnub but i dont want to scroll looking for ur name
people who think Gt is boring is because you only like to kick on the acclerate all day long
first..the music really suck in this video...and theres no contest here... gt5 is by far the best looking game,followed by pgr4,and forza2 do not belong with these 2 graphic wise !i think gt5 will be the best racing game ever,i cant wait