Kaz Hirai confirms that Sony's PlayStation Network will keep free elements but rumours abound of a premium service to follow.
Whatever it is, it's really hard to imagine what benefits and features they'll bring to the premium PSN since online play will forever remain free. Would have to be hella impressive and I would 'assume' cheaper than Xbox LIVE's $50/year fee. I know if MS dropped multiplayer from GOLD features tomorrow, half if not more (including me) would cancel my subscription.
i thought the same thing. what could sony possibly give us?
Cloud storage and game download allowances/discounts are the big two for me. Cloud storage for saves would pretty much confirm I'm paying it.
You guys are all right. Sony has to give us big incentive. Only reason people pay for Gold is because they want to play online. Sony is forced to keep online free because it's the better way to compete against MS. Discounts will be great. I want to see: -Weekly free avatars. -Weekly free PSN card backgrounds (so instead of the plain colors you could have awesome glowing Helghast eyes in the background for example when friends scroll over your name). -Weekly free Premium themes -A "Deal Week" like XBL has for its games -Demos for all games (the degradable demo rumors sound good-- but perhaps extend them to two hours before they degrade for Premium users) -Cross Chat obviously -Universal music, or at least a way to encourage devs to put it in -Video capture would be absolutely awesome -More Youtube uploading support, it's such an underused gem on the PS3 -Discounts on Movies -Bring Netflix/Movies to Canada/other regions The main issue with PSN is that it's not streamlined well enough and feels detached compared to LIVE. Sony needs to run ads, game spotlights, etc. and I would assume they'd give us a facelift for the XMB. Also, the rumored $120 a year for PSN Premium is just ridiculous. I am expecting it to be around $70 max. Hopefully Sony can offer a service that makes PSN integrated into the PS3 experience/XMB. Ease of use, accessibility, and a great new, slick, aesthetic design will go a long way for Sony.
Yeah I'd pay if it gave me cross game chat and video capture. Actually even just video capture. That would be ridiculously useful.
Pretty Much the Options Alpha gave in his comment but With a Big [emphasis] in Paying for Cross Game Chat or whatever it is... I wanna see if those whiny kids on the PS-Blog + PS-Forums will like the idea of Paying for something they were crying for so long because other console got it first, DO IT SONY, make them PAY!!!! lol
I think the better question is how much would you all pay for all that? How much would you pay for a service that already gives you multiplayer for free?
cloud storage for saves more active consoles perhaps? free rentals? psn games? google tv *crosses fingers* better browser... chrome perhaps? considering google and sony are bffs. better social network integration.. facebook (with chat) twitter myspace flickr from the xmb? maybe a section like xbl indies for legal homebrew? *crosses fingers* if they did stuff like that i would give them some of my greenbacks per month.
they could give a lot of freebies like backgrounds etc and a few exclusive BETAs and Demos...
@ Pirate Thom you hit the nail on the head for me Cloud storage is all I want. I will pay for it. Since th removal of memory cards the worst thing in nex gen gaming is losing your saves. If you can take away that fear I would pay a little extra each month no questions asked. @Alpha-Male22 - I like some of those but some like youtube support its not like Sony are holding back with the youtube support its just devs are not bothering with it.
when the ps3 premium comes out you better believe it will give live a run for its money. end of story and i should be prepared to eat some disagrees by angry live users
Have you seen Premium? MS is much more experienced with the software side of things than Sony, especially when it comes to LIVE. They simply have more experience. If you think MS is going to lie down while Sony overtakes its most valuable asset to Xbox you are dead wrong. MS is bound to offer new content too. My problem with LIVE is that it needs to add more features at this point. LIVE is much more integrated, has more features, and feels fuller with the way they incorporate gaming (IGN weekly game tips, video tutorials, community rating systems, etc). But none of these are real justifications to pay for LIVE. MS recently got rid of the original Xbox to make XBL for 360 even stronger so it's best to reserve judgment. Sony has a lot more to prove when it comes to developing and embracing online than MS. I am sure Premium will be great-- it just has to be. But online integration is the weakest part of the Playstation Experience. The hardware is great, the games are rock solid, but the online is what needs the most work. This is no longer about PSN being better because it's free, this is now about PSN giving features that can appeal to the consumers who are interested in online integration. This is where the industry is headed after all and MS has lead it on consoles, and Steam has practically birthed digital distribution for PC gamers. Yes, it's free, but it's evident people are willing to pay for a service that offers features like LIVE has. Sony realizes this. Sony is not a software company that has major expertise with online to my knowledge, especially compared to MS who we know has been part of online communications/entertainment for a long while. So again, just saying we should remain humble and reserve judgment until we see what the companies are going to do next.
Still, the best thing MS could do to combat PSN premium is the one they likely wont: give Silver accounts access to online services. Namely online gaming. It already makes little sense why they're keeping Netflix and LastFM Gold only when not you have to pay for them, but you can get Netflix on both Wii and PS3. Imagine what happens if with premium, PSN gets other free streaming options with accompanying ad campaigns? The only reason I think they're not talking about Grooveshark is that Sony's been aching to get a US version of Vidzone up.
Godsmars, true. This is why I think there will be a "Platinum" service. I think MS needs to revise their LIVE subscription system in light of Sony's Premium service. One problem I have with LIVE is that going Gold only gives you ACCESS to things like Netflix, but you still have to pay separately for that. With a Platinum service perhaps they could include these bundles. I just want Sony to incorporate what is being inputted in "Share Blog". They have an organized collection of what the gamers want and people could easily value PSN Premium if Sony delivers what gamers want instead of just adding random features nobody asked for like LastFM or Twitter or whatever. I'd also like to add to my list: -Twitter-like integration where I can get notifications when my friends get gold trophies, platinums, etc. -Trophy integration/make it more streamlined. It's tucked away right now and nobody cares for it. Put it on the friends list when I scroll their names, give us leaderboards, give us notifications when friends get trophies, etc. It makes the system more competitive and fun -Clan systems--- make the Text chats useful. Perhaps they can make it so that it runs as a forum on your XMB where people all around the world can create clan groups, etc. -Or, alternatively, make the browser more useful and easier to use. Again, ease of use goes a long way
@ Alpha. I just noticed everything you and I talked about on chat the other day you more or less just repeated. I have taught you well.
Too be honest he main problem is Sony it self. Unlike MS they are not the kind to reach out and ask for help on things and make those partnerships with other company's. They are doing better, but MS more or less is the king of partnerships. I am hopping that Sony and Google have stuff planed. Sony first time ever is letting a 3rd party OS on their Cell phones later this year (aka Andriod) and now we hear about Google TV on Sony Televisions. A Sony and Google collaboration on the PlayStation front would be huge. Be it on the PSP or PS3. I think something is going to be announced along these lines at E3.
I agree a lot with what you guys are saying. IMO, just to keep it short, a great Premium service with the majority of things we would expect to make the PSN experience feel more connected along with revamp of the XMB features to integrate well with the new service would make a really nice line up that I would dive into. Tbh, when it comes to Sony's conference, I'm looking more forward to hearing about this PSN+ service and Sony's future plans with PSN than the games coming out. I know Sony will have the games on lock as always, but I want to seem them focus on things they need to improve and online (PSN) being the first. It's pretty much like Alpha said, "PSN+ is going to be great...***it has to be***".
if the features are cool i dont mind paying. its the option to pay or not that i like.
I won't get this if it's not including cloud storage. Otherwise it's just going to be XBL PSN style.
Could you imagine using the cloud to basically turn any internet connected PS3 into "your" PS3. With all of your downloaded games, saves, friends, everything. Accessing what would normally be on your HDD through a cloud that hosts it instead.
Great news "But online integration is the weakest part of the Playstation Experience. The hardware is great, the games are rock solid, but the online is what needs the most work. Yes, it's free, but it's evident people are willing to pay for a service that offers features like LIVE has." Exactly. I've said it before and ill say it again..I'm willing to pay to make my PSN experience better.
nah i disagree. features? nope they are for the most part the same, but xbl is far more integrated into the xbox but i dont really think thats worth paying for really. i do but its only because i have to in order to play online, granted its not much... but it feels like extortion. "Yes, it's free, but it's evident people are willing to pay for a service that offers features like LIVE has." no i believe most people are paying to play and not for features. besides 90% of the services through gold are available to silver users albiet some are delayed. in the end you really are just paying for access to last fm, netflix (imagine if all netflix enabled boxes required a separete fee just to have access to it), facebook, online play. come on! all these features are free everywhere else!
the only thing i wanna see from sony is have the balls to require devs to use the most recent features the PSN has to offer: -Cross-Game Invites (like MW2) -Presence Data (while looking at friends list, you see what they are playing, what mode of the game they are playing what map they are playing on, like MW2,LBP,SOCOM, etc.) -Jump into a game with friends straight from the XMB these two things by itself should of been standardized by now. but its not, and its one of the reasons why you see people complaining that PSN isnt like XBL, when we already know that these features are there. Unlike MS, which has the balls to force these things on devs, Sony doesnt require them, and devs automically get lazy. its not right for the consumer. I dont want to go to a forum and ask a dev to add such features, when they wont. it has to be mandated if they want to develop on the PS3. i hope that the rumors of a redesigned XMB and of course a PSN overhaul are true, although it looks like the PSN is going to get a overhaul.
The thought of uploading gamesaves on a cloud based storage is awesome.
PSN is cool now but definitely needs an update/overhaul.
I don't mind a premium service for my PS3 if it's worth it like Live.
Thats a great set of recommendations, i was thinking most of them just couldnt get them out lol. + bubz
well I would pay for say cloud storage maybe so many psn games a month or movies with a sub i dont know what else pay for. what I would not pay for is Cross game chat No need charge what so ever
To the people saying PSN+ will give Live a run for its money, I think Sony's main purpose is not to compete with it but just to expand PSN. If Sony were trying compete with Live as in toe to toe, every Live feature would be on PSN, XGC, party invite, etc. I mean don't get me wrong at the same time I'm sure they're trying to lure players away from live for it, but that's not the main goal. But I'm only paying if its $70 MAX for a year. Its wat $5 more than a regular game?(Including the tax) why not at that price, but it has to have some freakin good ass features. I guess we'll see at E3.
The rumor running is that PSN+ will run $9.99 a month. No way could I justify that for what is rumored to be included.
But regarding this article, Sony can really make PSN's reputation do a complete 360. That is if they do the premium service correctly. Edit: Oh snap, that 360 pun wasn't intended at all.
If you do a 360, you end up facing the same direction -_-
The Cross Game Chat will be great for clan purposes. Like for instance, Socom. Although kind of cheap, but great.
I wouldn't mind a new interface on the PS3. XMB is kind of laggy (a lot when viewing messages in game), and all over the place.
PSN just needs a togetherness feeling, it feels apart. My xbl subscription finished and am happy Sony dont charge. If PSN+ is gonna be better it better have loads of features otherwise there wont be a need, and i agree with a previous post that MS is more experienced when it comes to sofftware.
Maybe but XBL has been great from Day One back when it first came out on the Xbox and Mechassault was the only game that supported it. Problem is people treat XBL like its a video game. Its nothing like that. Its more or less the brand name of a good business strategy. In time Sony should have most if not all of what XBL has just I feel MS is much better at implementation. Something Sony has always been bad at as a company. Sony has the screenshot and youtube feature but name zero effort to give it any support. That and they over the years have neglected the minor things (Battery Icon) They have a bad time at micromanaging everything. You can tell that every detail on the NXE and XBL has been carefully thought over. I can not say the same for PSN and the XMB however. Also if some of my comments seem worded bad I'm uber sick right now and not all there.
if this does happen to PSN then its bye bye to that well known a well loved XBL crap that i,v been saying for the last 6 years that is SH!T will be SH!T XBL has STREET WALKIN SLUT written all over it even on its forehead Microsoft is like if you play my box then i might play you like a fiddle then drop you like a bad habit and give you ads.
Its all about the infrastructure really, the whole system has to be as one. this means it cant feel like it has loose ends. Me im all about the gaming experience and whats going to make time, a well spend fun time. A universal party system i think is long overdue, this alone would kill home if it were implemented, i mean think about it. i want to see. >voice messaging, cross voice chat, multiple ID logs ons, Universal game invite system, Universal party system, auto settings for things like audio and display, network ect sets to the highest settings possible on its own. ability to listen to music, chat and send messages while browsing the store and all that. >trophies to psp games, and the ability to communicate between psp and ps3 users in the same way most mobile devices do with pcs via aim, msn msgr yahoo msgr ect. >(Based on the entered zip code on your psn registration)a little weather time, date and location icon next to your friends avatar wouldn't hurt. also add the ability to let friends know what your are doing or vice versa, like im watching a bluray film or web browsing, or at the store ect. they don't have to know exactly what it is, but a brief display would more than help the cost. >ability to accept and even send messages while watching a bluray movie, movie automatically pauses just like a game would.auto patching and installs after downloads, based of all your installs the games should be able to have a duplicate version of itself in your ps3 and patch itself while you are doing something else with your time, and all while just using a minor portion of your bandwidth, in case you are gaming or browsing or doing something else more important that requires internet usage.
>Ps2 games in HD with trophies need to make their way to the store, same for.. Dreamcast games and Saturn and even genesis games. > a free psone game+ a free movie of the psn video store a month. > better browser+ 3rd party browser support, dont like the current web browser? find than install firefox, chrome ect.. >New xmb design, something like a 3D xmb with move support to navigate with the pseye? >rewards for certain amount of trophies, these can be anything from discounts to free add-ons and such. >new and possibly exclusive to psn universal video chat in-game, with up to 2 friends, videos display in small box screens on the corners. >the ability to say join a friend/s whom may already be in a game already in progress from the xmb depending of the space availability based on who quits and such and if the friend accepts the request for said requested invitation. i don't ever think this could be pulled off, but who knows. > The multiplayer mantra mandate, every "multiplayer" enable game. Must have/contain the following features, 2 to 4 player co-op minimum, free for all death matches and such, 5 vs 5 multiplayer matches(these include skirmish, death matches, online co-op survival types,arena based combat ect) minimum, custom match making with weapon layouts and customizable maps and skins(basically forge). ability to organize and or orchestrate custom rank matches among online buddies, as well as a simple invite system(which should be universal across all multiplayer games) video recording features found in uncharted and halo 3. > Universal live spectator mode, this simply means anyone on your friends list can see your online matches live from the xmb in the form of a small thumbnail live reel(similar to what you find on the xmb when you highlight certain games only what you are watching is live), clicking the triangle opens up the menu click on spectate and watch it on the large screen live(for spoiler reasons, this function can only work during and for online matches). Also this should also be applied in the games themselves as you wait to join your buddy in multiplayer. If another buddy sees you waiting, they'll see x22 spectating x23 in uncharted 2 death mach 12 minutes remaining..ect. lastly but not least each game falling under this category must contain what i like call, (replacement killer system), this simply means whenever someone quits, they get replaced by someone else waiting to find and join a match, the system of course will simply select the player with the appropriate rank in an effort to balance both teams and in the already on going match all on the fly. >all this up here is what would beat xbox live of course until ms ups one again that is. >Bundle an official PlayStation bluttoth headset along with a 10 dollar psn card and boom....also a 10 dollar hdmi cable(trust me those are real and are out there as well).. and that's pretty much it, after this the ps3 will be the ultimate gaming platform. whatever they decide to do next, i really wouldn't care much. Just as long as they get these features implemented.
Make it $20 a year ($19.99) and everone WILL buy it. But do yourselves a favor make it like Xbox live but don't block half of my tv screen like they did, and let us keep our browsers. When I say make it like Xbox live: invite from ps button regardless of game played cross game chat avatars like on live would be a nice bonus party system and different chat channels smaller in game menu trophy/gamer score next to gamer Id $20 x 40 million members=$800 million a year
i agree, i think 20 is a fair price
dood 20! nah... $60 a yr would make it to $5 a month which is more than reasonable if you ask me. I think the $120 a year thing is for the top of the line package, they'll have other offerings I'm sure.
Sony to Reveal Premium PSN+ Service at E3 for $9.99 a Month this sounds nice thanks rook
If the Premium service included Video Capture and Youtube uploading for all games (like some kind of application accessed via in-game XMB) than it would save me $130 (or what the difference will be) on an HD PVR.
WHY IN THE FU** IS THIS A RUMOUR??? I HATE IT THAT THEY CONTINUE TO KALL IT THIS< WHEN WE KNOW ITS COMING FOR SURE THIS YEAR.
cant wait til we find out all the real features...
What ever the services maybe ! Gaming will be free as always but bet your ass Voice chat will be a preminum , if I'm wrong ! Great ! But if X-Chat is running there VIOP , then it's a preminum fee....
it has cloud storage and allowed you to change your psn id throw in some psn games and discounts and im set.
lol all i want is cloud storage, i am willing to pay for that:):)
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