Ironstar: "Project Natal was displayed during the D8 conference. Microsoft's motion sensing camera will certainly be the talk of E3, as it will compete with Sony's perspective of motion gaming, PlayStation Move."
I find it funny how the Xbox girl keeps going on about the Xbox and its games and whatever else, and the other lady is like "K we don't care about that".
...doing presentation about Natal? Now I'm worried as a gamer :/.
It's gonna be flooded with wii-like games and probably PS Move too... unless there's some sort of quality control.
Are you worried because women shouldn't be around videogames? :P Or are you worried because of how Microsoft is positioning Natal?
The woman should slim down a bit. She would be diggity!
soccer moms cant game
Dang!! That must've been the most boring video on N4G ever.. I demand 11 minutes of my life back!!
come on...i dont wanna play no FU(k!ng soccer in a video game, i can go outside and do that! what i wanna play is some nice shooters like call of duty or battlefield..not some retarded childish games!!!
Wow, 9 minutes of talking and less than 2 minutes of Natal. I can't believe how boring this is.
Did anyone else notice how the M$ rep asked the dude to move away? How she had absolutely NO answer to a simple question (what if everybody started to scream) and how BADLY it kept lagging? I mean OH MY GOD! How old is this footage? If it's a recent one then I can safely say that M$ has a product that has FAIL written all over it!
WTF kind of video player is that? Could barely see anything. Anyways, pretty lame footage.The kid wasn't into it at all and the women just looked awkward..
the Jedi mind control are praising it to high heavens.
i have absolutely no interest in this or Playstation's Move... nothing eithier of them have shown has made me sit up and take notice.. you come out with motion controls/tracking and you're churning shit out worse than the Wii?.. ill eat my words if they start showing some decent to good games but until then..this shit still looks blah
We still haven't seen much of Natal lately but I don't see how this could be fun at all. I'm hoping that MS changes my mind at E3.
yes if "NEW" is taking someone else's Idea and just making it more precise is your idea of "NEW" then yeah there will be a lot more precise waggle gaming going on.
New? There was this console called the Wii, launched in 2006, sold 70+ million units. It was pretty big, I'm surprised you missed it.
move only showed us sccom4 which might be interesting, i like how playstation dont promise you anything so u dont get disapointed whereas natal they promised to get rid of controllers well... they have a big task on their hands cus i aint lettin go of my controller.
Motion controls have a lot more potential on the PS3 then it did on the Wii. It can take advantage of all the shooters and other games (like LBP2) that the Wii wouldn't be able to do. I'm looking forward to playing MW2 and Socom 4 with the move. However, there isn't much games I'd want to use the Wiimote on the Wii. Not to mention that Sony has done a great jobs proving how accurate it is.
Move showed us (and Guerilla) Socom4. Move showed us Move Party (Archery, Table Tennis, and a couple of other games). Move showed us boxing, Lights Out. Move showed us to play with a pet, EyePet. Move showed some tech demos (that "Minority Report" video). And Natal showed us ... ta ta ... kicking some balls. We will see, what that means, literally, at E3. ... And anybody who says there is no lag is blind. That arm moved 500-1000ms later in that video when that lady moved her arm to calibrate the thing. In a video with normal speed, not slowed down. ... wow.
move isnt a wii controller idiots.more,way more precise, better looking titles. just because it looks like it doesnt mean it is. theres only so many ways u can design a controller. u could say the xbox an ps3 controller look the same. cause the overall shape is the same. does tht mean there copying? NO.
if Nintendo does it first, Sony can do it better, member the analog stick? will Sony did it better
I probably have more fun playing football then waving my arms like an idiot :P
These types of webcam games have been around for a decade, and they're amusing for all of 30 seconds. Who on earth is going to buy this? If they want their kids active in front of the screen, get a Wii. It's cheaper and it has Mario. As for the rest of the gaming world, the average gamer age is well into his 30's. You really think 20 to 30 something gamers are suddenly going to start shelling out to bounce around their living rooms, waving at their tv screen. I just don't see how this could possibly succeed.
If they want their kids active they won't buy them video games to provide the activity. Motion control gaming is a way for non-gamers to get into games. It doesn't get you into shape. It doesn't increase your cardiovascular capacity. You'd have more success playing "Duck, Duck, Goose."
Care to wager on whether or not people buy this thing? I am 37 and will be buying it, I have a wii, and love party games for it. I will also get move because it looks to add a lot to hardcore games. There is a place in gaming for this.
Analysts have been saying that Natal would add 1 billion to Microsoft's revenue. One billion! That means they're expecting 7 million of these things to just fly off the shelf. I have no doubt that some people who like party games will pick this up, and some people who realize it's value compared to buying a Wii with multiple controllers, but I just don't see this happening. Not to knock Natal. It's not a bad idea, but it's not being released in a vacuum. It still has the Wii to go up against and it still has Move to go up against. The 360's a console for hardcore gamers who primarily buy it for shooters. For Natal to be successful they'll have to rope in the casuals, which means they'll have to lure them away from the Wii. When Microsoft dropped the price of the 360 below that of the Wii it caused a brief surge in sales for the 360 but didn't make a dent in Wii sales. I think the 360 is 10 times the gaming console that the Wii is, so doesn't it say something when it can't even compete head 2 head with the Wii when it's cheaper? Is slapping a camera on it for another $150 really going to be the game changer? I just don't see it.
Wii's market share is rock solid, while the 360's is falling. People are really underestimating the power of the reigning champ. I hope for the success of both the Move and Natal, but I don't see either dethroning the $200 Wii. Not to mention that it already has hundred of casual games cheaper than current 360 games. Now if the $149 previously mentioned includes the cost of an Arcade, it's on!
its the dumb ball breaking game again. If its going to be $149 they better have better stuff then that or this is going to be a big flop after the initial curiosity wears off.
and sadly i realize that natal will have more games.. on e3 no hardcore games at all.. but there will be some casual games and sadly again its possible that with natals help the ps3 might not be able to catch up to the 360... then again MS could burn in hell for all i care.. but this is just to appealing for casual gamers...
No offense but your comment is so flawed. A ps3 fan boy does not sadly realize that natal might have more casual games and does not think that the 360 will outpace the ps3 because of natal or its causual games. Why would ps3 owners be sad? The ps3 will have move and im sure move will have a ton of games for all audiences now we will have 3 consoles on the market that do motion control so no one is missing out if thats your way of gaming. So in fall ps3 owners will be excited for move and xbox owners will be excited for natal. Your predictions were natal will have more casual games. Did you forget the wii in there?? The 360 will outpace the ps3 because of an addon not to mention ps3 will also have an addon. then ms should burn in hell. intersting
there only after the casual gamers on the wii they could care less about hardcore gamers kids will see it and will want a 360 thats there plan to promote this of course at e3 thats why they hired that circus to help show it off. i say it might be good for a good few months after that no one will have no interist
start a sentence with "i am ps3 fanboy"... you go through all the trouble of writing a comment which is not worth anything... and of course they are going to target casual gamers.. coz they want to make money ... just like any other company... try to be lil bit positive... and it will not hurt you to give credit where its due... peace
lol m8... u shouldn't take everything so literal i was overreacting but still... i dont care about the wii... but the 360 represents hardcore gamers as well so i care when they start to turn to the wii way. i dont like MS at all but they are part of this industry, i like it or not... and i said ps3 fanboy because if i didnt call myself a ps3fanboy someone else will.. and u should try and see how all this motion crap is going to affect your console of choice...
That was painful. So what exactly is the point of this again.
What other point could there have possibly been oh wait to post fanboy comments here sorry i missed that
"give me ur moneyz!!!" yep. thats what microballs is sayin'
I think the problem was quite evident in the video. Here you have THE MS demonstrator, and she is having a hard time coordinating herself to play the only game they've shown. They had about a 70% miss rate on this "pick up and just play" game. I think I'd be done with that game in about 3 minutes. Compare that to the Sony Move pingpong game they just threw together where people were hitting this small ball with spin and finesse, and actually keeping the ball in play. It's night and day right now in terms of accuracy and responsiveness.
I believe the Move is a better technology and has more creative freedom. That doesn't matter though. MS has control of the American public. They will "win" E3 because of it.
Calm down buddy. Some of you get worked up over nothing. If you aren't interested in Natal then move along.
natal sucks. ill sell my ps3 if this dildo be able to control MW2 type game. /thread
Leon has a valid point, the MS representatives have an amazing ability to get you to watch useless stuff, that video shows nothing new at all its exactly the same demonstration as e3 09 but ppl are still going ooooh ahhhhhh. Apple have the same ability to make ppl want to buy something that they dont need whatsoever. When she is asked about the voice recognition how will it tell the difference from person to person or a group of people talking she had no clue.
"move is a better technology" You mean Wii? Wii started this motion wand stuff, not sony, If you can (I dont know) Im not a MS or sony fanboy nor nintendo, can anyone explain what is the difference between the Move and the Wii Mote? I didnt see a difference, I just a want a cilivlized conversation about the difference between Wiimote and Move, hope this isnt too much to ask.
wii? you obviously didnt look into it. dumbass.
Check again who was the pioneer. It's not Nintendo.
New my ass. Show me proper games being played with Natal like Halo Reach, Forza or Alan Wake!!
It's not MS saying it's new, it's some blogger. Wait for E3 then complain if nothing new is shown
Natal is casual focused, I doubt we'll see much hardcore stuff for it. Maybe some sports games, if you consider them proper. I'm sure they'll give a nod to the core gamers at E3, but I wouldn't expect AW or Halo to use it. Maybe Forza, they've showed that Burnout driving demo a lot last year. who knows
sigh...I knew it, why did I watch the whole video? I waited for 11 mins of new Natal footage...or even one minute of new footage and it's the SAME SH*T...GOD (leaves story angrily)
there goes 11 minutes of your life you will never get back...lol
Yeah, it is kind a funny how MS is expected to reveal everything at E3, yet people somehow expect some new information in between. That makes perfect sense!
It's not like Sony is releasing any new info on anything before E3. I'm getting a message on my Codec. . . It seems that Sony IS releasing info on many items BEFORE E3.
Well it DOES say 11 mins of NEW Natal footage on the headline doesn't it?
"_It's not like Sony is releasing any new info on anything before E3. "_ lol LBP 2 , KZ2 , infamous 2.......................... :>
It does say 11 min of NEW footage, and it is NEW footage technically speaking. With that said, you were duped by the site not MS.
They get me every time and for some reason people are hype for that crap red ball game. Im sorry but I want natal to fail. I dont want any of my family members to be tricked into a system with RROD, bad hardware, over priced peripherals, and payeing for online. Im sorry but I protect my family and since the 360 only has shooters its even worse. No way am i going to hype natal just because im a x360 fanboy. No way im gonna let M$ screw over my 5 year old little sister and my old grandma. IM gonna continue to tell them to get a ps3 wich is good for everyone and the wii which is good for the little kids play room. They can have the mini play room version of motion controls with wii. then they can come to the living room with the big kids and still be used to the move motions although more advance and accurate. NAtal is doing nothing and is only gonna F over your friends and family. Have a heart people and do the right thing. Natal is not the way to go ever.
Give me a break. You want Natal to fail because you are just like all the other fanboys who hate something if it isn't on your preferred console. There is nothing more to it than that.
Everytime I see "New Natal Footage" it ends up being that retarded red ball game. I feel like I'm being Rick Rolled.
as it ever was!! Please show somthing new E3!!! I have to admit im sick of this stupid ball hitting game...damn sure wont buy that game...im soooo sick of it already!!
good god, they've been showing that shitty ass ball game for year now. Show something else for a change.
"Yeah, Louie had fun" That woman is your casual audience and she could give two shits...
And Louie goes right back to playing Halo 3, lol!
PLEASE MS! just replace all your worthless employees with REAL GAMERS! The only games you've been showing is that stupid painting game and that stupid red ball. Your going to have to try a lot harder than that if you want Natal to really succeed you stupid ass****!
about Ricochet, acting like they've showed a shitload of footage for Move. First, you're not planning to get Natal at all, so why bother paying attention to it? And second, it's called E3 2010. Are you trolls REALLY going to keep complaining about Ricochet until June 18? Jesus Christ, SMH. I mean, I see the PS Move as a blatant rip-off of the Wii controllers, but you don't see me going through every MOVE article saying that.
The Move is not quite a rip off. It's an advancement of a concept. Stick with me. Nintendo always comes out with the new, innovative tech (rumble, analog, motion control, purple luchbox, etc..) and others, particularly Sony, follow them and attempt to perfect that tech. The N64 had a rumble pack and a joystiq, but the PS1 had the Dualshock. This is an extension of that. Ninty did their motion control thing and Sony said "we can do it better".
the made it better with a significantly more clumsy controller. The only thing Move does a lot better is that they are staying away from having controllers connected by cords, but that will end up costing a pretty penny in the long run. I'm curious how many move controllers you can use at once. to match the number of inputs with the wii or natal you'd need 8 move controllers. (4 players using each hand)
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the First Playstation come out before N64? So how is it that Sony copied their Idea 2 years before Nintendo released the 64?
"Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the First Playstation come out before N64? So how is it that Sony copied their Idea 2 years before Nintendo released the 64?" The initial PS1 controller didn't have the analog sticks. The Nintendo 64 was released in June 23, 1996. Sony released the "Dual Analog Controller" in April 25, 1997 which was similar to the Dualshock, but didn't have vibration. Sony released the Dualshock on May 1998, almost 2 years after the Nintendo 64 was released.