Infinity Ward is no more, a seriously crappy turn of events and corporate douche-baggery has cemented that. Although, gamers as a whole aren’t seeing the bigger picture: I.W. not making Call of Duty games threatens the entire industry.
Are we seeing the emergence of Infinity Ward/MW2 fanboys? WaW was an incredible game. The single-player far surpassed MW2's arcadey-over the top "Team America" version. CoD games were never about arcadey-gunhoe shooters. WaW was raw, powerful and realistic, like the originals before it. If Black Ops is anything like WaW's single-player with a dash of IW's incredible multiplayer elements Call of Duty: Black Ops has win all over it. Fanboys: stick with MW2 if you don't like Treyarch. The rest of us will be enjoying the fruits of their labour--a new amazing CoD experience both online AND offline.
if u read the article u would know i am not a fanboy. sir.
I did read it, and the fanboy comment wasn't for you per se, more of a generalized statement to recent commentary regarding Black Ops and Treyarch. The only promising criticism in your article was when you talked about "over-stimulating" the market with bad games. Activision is notorious for this (re: Guitar Hero), and even during the IW years Activision made it clear they were interested in a CoD every year. So you have an interesting point there, but that has nothing to do with Treyarch and everything to do with Activision.
yes i must apologize when i saw you approved it i closer examined your comment and saw this, thanks :) and yeah activison is certiantly famous for publishing drek for the sake of a buck
and look guys everybody is happy again and will be buying COD again damn cod is really ruining gaming its the same game over and over the funny thing is people will always buy this trash above games like: ICO ,OKAMI, and soon to be the last gaurdian and after this activision will screw gamers again and then all us gamers get angry and start mocking again and wonder how this happend but its really us gamers how are to blame fore buying the same product over and over
the 2012 of gaming, really?? who is suppose to take this seriously
With BakedGoods first comment, it is spot on.
we do? I personally think Bobby Kotick is destroying gaming with his annual crap!
to think the gaming world will suffer without IW is ridiculous. and your "theory" on IW pushing other devs is ridiculous as well. recently GG (makers of KZ series) said that what's pushing them (on making KZ3) is other in-house devs (naughty dog and sony santa monica). they said games like GOW3 and UC2 only make them work harder - they didn't mention IW. and i'm glad they didn't......IW games are all about MP - they're SP campaigns are SHORT and UNIMAGINATIVE. - give me more interesting stories like KZ, halo, gears, or resistance the quality of games is better than ever. halo and gears series on xbox - KZ and resistance series on playstation. and i felt WaW was a fun title. gaming will be fine WITHOUT infinity ward.
I'm sorry Thrash, but that is one of the worst articles I've ever read. I feel like it was written by a very young person... hmm
After MW2 I really can't say IW are the best MP developers. They dropped the ball big time. The way I see it, if the game has mechanics built in for people getting a 50 killstreak, your game is broken as shit. Also, "hugest" is not a word.
To me the article just sounded like someone b!tching because they're favorite company just got split in half. Saying Treyarch will ruin the balance of gaming is like saying Avatar revolutionized the film industry as we know it. More importantly you sounded like you were saying Treyarch was as bad of a developer as say Rebellion.
Everybody shits on Treyarch because they make the less popular CoD games, but when it comes down to it Trey's a perfectly competent developer that supports their games after release with patches and more double xp better than IW has ever done with it's last 2 CoD's. Treyarch added zombies to WaW and that shit was mad fun, way better than Spec Ops was, so it's not like they don't know how to make a good game.
Hey the stain of one bad cod just isn't going away from them talking about cod 3. WaW was awesome the sniper level is king.
Yeah I've been avoiding Treyarch since COD3... COD2 was my first COD and one of my first 360 games. I loved it and it blew me away, so you can imagine I was a little disappointed in COD3. An because of that I only recently experienced Zombies in WAW. My ignorance towards Treyarch made me miss out on an amazing experience. Now as much as I'd hate that to happen again, I don't think I'll bother with their new COD. After 5 years of "nex-gen" war shooters (most of them being countless tiring repetetive sequels and/ore clones)I'm just sick of the whole genre. Sure I'll pick up KZ3 and Halo:Reach in the future, but i like them, because they're not real life shooters and its fun to escape to distant planets :D
OK i understand how you prefer WAW over MW2. However COD4 is by far the best COD of all time. Thas why there is such a big following for it even today . And story wise MW1 destroyed WAW. When Gaz died at the end it was a moving scene, you never saw it coming. Thats not mentioning the awesome single player missions such as the AC-130 mission or the mission where you play as captain price.
You never saw the fact that you would be betrayed by your own army and burned alive along with Ghost in MW2 either... Also in MW2 you get to play co op AC130 that is fun too. I like Cod stories.
loved the single player in cod 4 absolutely loved it. i used to be a die hard cod fan because i loved the gritty realism that was put into the story and atmosphere, but with MW2 all that was lost, and replaced with a michael bay esque story.
Nonsensical ramblings. Missions that have nothing to do with anything. Betrayals that you could see from a mile away. Etc. COD4's singleplayer was MUCH better, more cohesive, and left a much bigger impact. WAW felt more MW-like than MW2 did. After playing MW2 and going back to WAW, I actually realized how great WAW was. My absolute favorite is still COD4 though. Very balanced. Maps forced you to move around tactically. Easy to kill campers. An entire team can't just camp in a certain area and own. Etc.
I'll have to agree with duplissi and rockleex. While MW2's single player was fun, the story was terrible in comparison to the story in CoD4. The first game was a realistic war story while the second was idiotic politics followed by a pissed off general who betrays his country because he's butthurt over a nuke that blew up 5 years ago. Ridiculous.
None of what this article said made any sense. Can I get some weed?
I'm getting a half ounce of pot of gold home grown from a buddy later :D Come join me!
Agreed. It sounded like it was written by some teen who's never played anything but CoD/MW games, peppering the article with some references and names he found through Google...
Actually Infinity ward ruined the entire mw2 experience. The loss of dedicated servers and the 5 hour single player campaign was indeed dissapointing. Not to mention the glitches that plagued the game. So if anything, Treyarch will make the whole COD experience better and rewarding.
COD WAW is nothing but stages cleaning. Poor level design, bad narration, bad feeling with the weapon, bugs with hidden boxes and collisions , framerates issues (even on the 360), and more stupid of all, the enemies are spawning everywhere, regardless where the player is, so, sometimes a nazi appears just in front of you one meter ahead, ridiculous... and scripts are done more present, mw2 is a little better on this point. So honestly, MW2 is better all the way. I just complete the two games some days ago. And MW2 is like a hell's train that does not let you breath from A to Z, a sequence of memorable moments. Finished in 10hours, hardened difficulty level. And did not try the specs ops for now.
MW2 pretty well! Poor level design, bad narration, bad feeling with the weapon, bugs Did you know only about 60 people worked on [email protected]? Over 100 people worked on MW2 and MW, so Treyarch can make great games even with the number of workers that are less then IW...but you know whats better? OVER 200 PEOPLE are working on BLACK OPS, IW only has about 70 people now, so Black ops will be better because they have the extra 100 people they never had before, They said they have groups for co/op Sp,Mp, it would be about 66 people per catogory, so they have about 66 people working on mp and 66 people working on co/op and 66 people working on sp! So It will be a beast when it comes out because they have alot of extra hands they never had before!
Yeah you are right. When a big team is at work, they will do great things, always! /s
You just said MW2 was better than WaW. You have absolutely no credibility left, so you cannot make sarcastic jokes. The fact that you continue to like MW2 is a joke.
The COD appeal has always been the multi player. And WaW multi player was quite good. Some of the maps were smoking hot. But the inclusion of tanks and some of the sizes of the maps were major turn offs. Overall however, the multi player maps had a raw and brutal feeling that far surpassed Modern warfare 2. Even though the engine wasnt tweaked as much as MW2, the ripped body parts, the "hostel" feeling made WaW multi player a very enjoyable experience as long as you didnt get a tank map. The dogs were also brutal. MW2, on the other hand, was very enjoyable multi player wise and gameplay wise with loads more options and weapons. But it had this weird cartoony/ "team America" feeling which was just dumb. Majorly dumb. And the maps, while impressive at first, lacked the detail and the raw feeling that World at War maps had. The tweaked killstreak was a fun idea on paper and the first 2 weeks or so. It sucks now. Utterly sucks. With the dogs/ helicopter, you just know where you are at and the experience is better that way. With the new system, you get shit after shit, not to mention the massive abuse. I have no doubt in my mind that Black Ops is going to be another stellar CoD and most likely Shooter of the Year. The fanboys need to suck it. Nothing Reach can do about it.
lol...ok buddy. only shot black ops has at reach is the fact that it is multi platform.I would love to see all these announced features for black ops that blow away what we have heard about Reach, we literally know next to nothing aside from a few modes and basic plot. Aside from that how about we not talk about 2 unreleased games when we really have no Idea how well either will do.
But new gamers are made everyday, who never played the old versions. As and old gamer i have seen most out there, and it starting to look same same... Am i sad? No not really, Cause i handed over the gamming to my son (14) and he is going for it, as it's all new to him. He do not care if it's IW or Treyarch who made it, he is just playing with a big grin on his face.. A new generation will keep it alive...
"I.W. not making Call of Duty games threatens the entire industry" LOL!!!! funny stuff. i think gaming would be better with out another rehashed cod thank you how many cods do we need ?,I'm getting sick of cod maybe because there out every year i think this year I'm skipping cod for other games cod:black oops will make 7 cods i have all the cod games for ps2 and ps3 so far (but black ops,obviously) and i think im done with cod for now,i was playing mw2 and i was thinking to my self,do i really want this again ? no.all the cods are almost the same game all the online modes are basically the same with a few changes the best cod is still COD4 in my books so many flaws in all the cod games its horrible. i don't think i would start to hate cod as much as i do now if they didn't release one every year
5 Isnt an original, which means it really isnt a CoD game. Just because you slap a title on it doesnt mean thats what it is. You want a real CoD exp you should play 1,2,4,and 6.
@BakedGoods Did you seriously just call World at War "Realistic"? Are you mental?
This article has to me the most overly dramatic, fear mongering, pile of horse sh*t I've read in a good long while. It's the end of Infinity Ward, nothing more...good riddance to them too. MW2 has to be the worst FPS I've ever played. (my K/D 1.20 w/over 37000 kills I'm not the best but most definitely not the worst).
treyarch all the way....btw treyarch just want to make games...if gaming ends its all activision's fault.
As it stands right now it looks like the new Medal of Honor wants/is going to claim the thrown. IMO that is.
i really like the way the new MoH is looking, but based on previous titles at this time BFBC and Bioshock are top contenders, would u agree?
Nope, BFBC2 could be called a contender, but Bioshock? Not in any world.
the new MoH looks amazing. can't wait to get to afghanistan! ( in gaming only, that is...LOL)
[email protected] single player campaign was better then MW's and MW2's. No offense but this article is a load of bull.
Nonesense. If Wii hasn't destroyed gaming already, nothing will.
pfft HD consoles destroyed gaming, what happened to my precious FF13?
" what happened to my precious FF13?" It was very enjoyable. Best game this gen next to Demon's Souls. I'm doing a second run actually even though I already got all the trophies.
dont be stupid SE reuined it not the hd consoles this is trully the most stupidest thing i have read on n4g
yes thats what I meant, Hd consoles ruined the game /facepalm I was talking about the development of these large HD games. How much money and resources do you think is needed to make a game like FF. Read how much people were needed to make this game, even SE said they would not make that mistake twice.
After dropping $60+ on glitchy,short campfest of a so called game Treyarch, Infinity, and Acti can keep their overhyped CoD games.
Wow, gamers (aka murderers) still buy this drudge year after year and care about it. LOFL.
really...your going to take it there? I guess I was wrong stupidity has no limits. edit: just to clarify my problem does not stem from the same "drudge year after year" so much as the "(aka murderers)". lol makes me laugh just thinking about it.
How did this piece of shit article pass Approval? It's just a pathetic dig at how "bad" T3 is when they're perfectly fine as developers. I think the writer/editor needs to go to the doctors with a heavy case of "Infinitywarditis" with a rather harsh side effect of "fanboyitis".
I LOVED COD:WAW SO WIN WIN SITUATION FOR ME if this game have zombie mode then count me in .
That game mode is so boring.
lool they are right about some things like the amount of shovelware available, and it looks like we are all set to be sent back to the atari days, and it's all thinks to the wii, now that ms and sony are jumping on that bandwago i guess we will see more shovelware available to all platforms, the fps genre has pretty much flooded the x360, and look at how fast the x360 is sinking, you need variety to be able to stand as a console and x360 only apeals to fps addicts. luckily enough for me sony is still dedicated to bringing some quality games to me such as socom 4, gt5, lbp2 and hopefully the last guardian :):)
CLICHE argument supported by terrible writing. Pass. A little advice: re-read outloud what you just wrote. If it sounds like shit verbally, then it reads like shit. Too many writers write off the top if their head and don't take their time. FYI WaW was fun. Looking forward to the new one.
What balls treyarch rock cod 3 ,waw , qauntum of solace iw made pretty games yes but i put more time into cod3 with no perks , mw is like unreal tournament running around one building its a shame it wasnt the size of battlefield . Bring back full spectrum warrior.
COD3, Spiderman 3, COD:WaW, Quantum of S. Bond game. Some of the worst games I've played this Gen. Gameplay, Grafx, all sh!t. Also, love COD4, think MW2 is unbalanced Glitch fest
CoD: Black Ops will sell as good as WaW, regardless of how good/bad it is. I don't think the CoD series is the be all/end all of gaming. Something new will come along or Treyarch will deliver the goods....
The gaming industry is not JUST FPS and MP. It wont destroy the gaming industry "as we know it". IW it would seem or even just Call of Duty in general as been put so high up on the pedestal by many gamers, a lot have forgotten about everything else. That pedestal is gone and now people are freaking out and writing articles like this. Saying sure there are other great shooters out there but it isn't call of duty. Since when are only Arcadey shooters the only real shooters out there? Quite honestly I enjoy the more realistic approach to shooters. Flash-point would have been amazing if it was polished and less buggy. Even Ghost Recon and Rainbow six to an extent. People seem to forget about these other great multiplatform choices. I do believe it is unfair to judge Treyarch in such a way, saying they're going to kill Call of Duty. These guys have talent and I'm sure what happened to MW2,won't happen to Black Ops, with IW demise, they know eyes are upon them to deliver quality. The world of gaming didn't end when we found out Bungie will no longer make Halo Games after reach, and it sure as hell wont die with Infinity Ward. The ignorance of this article unfortunately annoys me. IW will not become Atari's ET of the gaming industry.
I really liked WaW, but i thought that MW2 was better. Having said that, from what I've seen of Black Ops, it looks as good, if not better than MW2. If Infinity Ward truly is done, then I think it's fine that Treyarch take some gameplay elements from them, and it doesn't bother me that some of the scenes look like MW2 segments because they're all part of the same series, I don't care who's making the game.
Buy mag if you have ps3 amazing mutiplayer game.
jesus christ no, get bfbc2.
iw died after cod4 came out - since then they've proved themselves to be money grabbing [email protected]$tard$ just like activision, but then i'm a pc gamer so what do i know...
Cause WAW proved to be a better game than MW2 and that alone is enough proff that treyarch can make even better games.
I respectfully disagree with the article. For most gamers they don't really know or care about who develops Call of Duty games. My dad and brother are huge fans, and buy each one - they don't care if Infinity Ward or Treyarch or one of the other legions of developers Activision has lined up makes the game. They just see it in terms of 'liked this one', 'didn't like the next one'. My Dad loves WaW. My brother is more of a MW fan. I doubt this is a unique situation! Also, I think it's a bit strong to state that Treyarch will end gaming as we know it. Call of Duty didn't go stratospheric until Modern Warfare - before that it was just another great series (CoD2 is still one of my faves). So CoD as we know it has actually only been around, and at this level of popularity, for a few years since MW1 was launched. That's not long enough for it to become a linchpin of the industry, and certainly not long enough to cause the same sort of spiral we saw with Atari in the 80's. If the popularity of CoD does start to tail off, then I can guarantee one thing... Some other series will move in to fill the vacuum and the industry will survive another day. I find it hard to fathom how the author can believe the decline of multiplayer in CoD could lead to the self-destruction of the industry without providing a counter argument that could suggest a multi-plat developer like... Err, Bungie for instance, could fill the void! Y'know they have a little experience in making solid multiplayer FPS games!! Sensationalist rubbish!
did not know it took one game franchise to end the whole thing.....so how come wii sports didnt do it?
The author mentions many amazing multi-platform games that people could fall back to if the CoD franchise ended. It makes no sense...
I don't see how no Call of Duty could threaten the entire gaming industry. It's not the only FPS game out there with 'quality' multiplayer functionality.
Unbelievable the amount of shooters coming out: COD Black Ops Medal of Honor Brink Crysis 2 Vanquish Spec Ops: The Line Killzone 3 Resistance 3 (probably) Singularity Bulletstorm Socom 4 Fear 3 Quantum Theory Rage Deus Ex Ghost Recon Future Soldier Aliens: Colonial Marines Then throw in Mafia 2, Max Payne 3, and Dead Space 2 which have shooter elements, it's almost like so what if Treyarch produces crap with Black Ops, we have lots to choose from.
BTW, Spec Ops: The Line is looking really sweet. A dark TPS set in a near future Dubai. Published by an awesome publisher, 2K Games and being developed by German developer Yager.