It's easy to write a PlayStation 3 hate article, everyone on the Net has posted at least ten in the last six to eight months. But, what would it take for you to buy a PlayStation 3, for real?
A lot of you also seem to downplay or overlook a major flaw in the xbox. A little over 10 million units sold and at least 2.5 came back defective. I mean common. Forget 3 yr warranty, how can you justify rushing a console out to take the lead and in return you get crap hardware that is unreliable. I play games and i play games a lot taking out 2 weeks out of my gaming time in order to get it fixed because it was born defective is inexcusable rubbish. However its funny to see that Msoft dosent get crucified they just offer a 3yr warranty and its ok. How can Msoft openly admit they have a defective console and you still buy it. While i already have my XBOX 360 i honestly cannot recommend one to a friend saying its fun now and don't worry if/when it breaks you can get it fixed for free. Why should i have to worry about if it breaks in the first place.
Don't get me wrong i have nothing against Microsoft aside from their defective xbox they have done a stellar job their live service is excellent(wish it was free) and they have some excellent games. Both systems are excellent and have their good and their bad. Fanboys need to open their eyes and recognize this.
P.S. Agree or disagree at least you can't take my bubbles
A 360 owner waiting for his console to come back waits just as long as a PS3 owner for games. Either way the console sits.
This is not an excuse for MS crappy hardware...it's just that the alternative (PS3) isn't as compelling right now...there just aren't as many games. That's about to change though...Sony's got some great games in the pipeline. MS is going to have to drop the price to compete...the free ride is over.
..for their hardware. Perhaps if the 360 waited atleast 6 months and after many product testing cycles things would be different?
Perhaps it was Peter Moores idea, since he rushed the Dreamcast out before the ps2 and gamecube? Maybe, thats the real reason he left before the fingers can be pointed at him? He seems to have small history of jumping from one burning ship to another.
Heck If Madden 09 bombs will he jump to Take Two (2k sports)?
I am a 360 owner and an American. For every problem there has to be someone to blame.
Do I blame Microsofts history (software and hardware) of producing products with tons of glitches and from cheap chinese manufactures? Or do I blame a single man who rushed a untested console out "again" before the competition can get thier products out?
A $300 price tag and games that are far more advanced, in all aspects, than the ones now.
300 for an integrated blu-ray player, included wi-fi and 7 core cell brodband engine.. you're out of ur mind. 400 would be more plausible..
Or when Hell freezes over. Honestly, I wouldn't even mind a $1000 price tag as long as they had the games to back it up. But EVERY PS3 owner I know (6-7) only has one game for their precious system, because nothing is out for it. I'm also tired of the whole "what until..." rubbish. Xbox360 may have been rushed, but at least they had great games from the start. The PS3 won't have any good games until 2 longs years after launch. Whats worse...waiting two weeks for your defective Xbox to be repaired, or waiting two years for any decent games??
We dont care about blu-ray players. we just want good games and a good price.
crazy larry..please post all the great games in the first year of xbox360.
Call of Duty 2
DOA4 (was ok)
Gears of War (was within the year- nov 11ish)
All i can think of off the top of my head.
A fair few more "good" titles but these were the great (bar DOA.)
Not to mention the "great" Arcade Titles such as Geometry Wars (still the best)
Your go ;)
I do have a Ps3 in my house (my brothers) but until i see some games (which will come soon) I will stick to my xbox.
Nothing, I will buy it even if it had no games.
I hope that was a joke...
I guess he means as a blu ray player. My uncle bought his solely for blu ray player because it was the cheapest out there at that time. He's not into videogames but more of a movie buff lolz.
he wasn't joking he's an ignorant consumer and a full-fledged fanboy
Nothing, I will buy it even if it had no games.
I think in little ways the higher price works in favor for Sony. It provokes people to buy it every time there is a price drop. Over the next 10 years the likely hood of you buying the PS3 is huge. There's potentially going to be atleast 10 price drops. And i'm only talking about price drops. What about the classic games you wanted to play that were released 2007. Are you really going to wait until PS4 to come out to play the PS3 games? And speaking of PS4 will there be a big difference in next next gen when graphics are already great for 360 and PS3. In 2014 the PS3 will be $100 range and people will buy that system over the next next gen systems. Both Sony and MS are still both in the progress of trying to make money of there new systems, so if MS were to realease the xbox 3 in 3 years the specs of that system will be too hard to be tapped by developers. Wii and even the 360, they're are really pushing to make you buy one now. Sony wants you to buy one now, but with continued success PS2, bluray, and harder to program system there are indications that they're in it for the long run.
Someone put some acid in your lemonade Mike. 2014? People will be buying PS3's at garage sales for $15. Everything will be downloadable by then.
As of now I only know of 1 person who owns a PS3. He's a relative of a friend and he's 10.
For a bigger controller to fit adult hands.
For some games that are genuinely good and not just part of the overblown Sony hype machine.
And for the Sony fanboys to STFU so that some of the stigma about owning a PS3 will diminish.
what constitutes "genuinely good"... name some exaples of genuine goodness on the 360, which I own... all I play on 360 is vegas, gears and Oblivion (gamer tag: militant sniper) look me up!
Agreed. I can't stand the gimpy controller, too small for me too & no rumble. Also Sony has along way to go with their online service, I can chat with friends all over the world & play games & it costs me $2.50 a month for all those unlimited long distance chats. I would like to see PS3 get more adult american style games like Killzone. Heavenly Sword & Lair do not appeal to me, nor the gameplay style of Metal Gear. I liked that stuff when I was in Jr. High.
I'm more interested in games like Mass Effect, Bioshock, & Gears of War now. And I definately agree with you about the Sony fanboy image, because I use 2B one, then I grew up. As far as Xbox360 issues, I bought my machine 4/2006 & have never had any problems. Frankly, I think alot of the negative press for both systems is complete crap. This website should change it's name to "News for Flamers". I'll buy a PS3 when it has more than acouple of games I'm interested in & their online improves significantly.
I kind a agree that some games almost might sell me a 360 (like GoW, Masseffect and Halo), but then I look at the PS2 games library which simply has a much broader portfolio of game types. I still believe the PS3 is in its very beginning and eventual this bigger variety will be available for the PS3. New titles are an indication, like Uncharted - Drakes Fortune, Lair, Heavenly Sword, InFamous. I think the PS3 will have a strong heritage from the PS2. And while I'd miss some of the 360 shooters, there are good ones coming for the PS3, too. I still think Resistance is a great game (played the missions at least three times - and was hardly boring compared to CoD3, which I had to force myself to do at least once), then the exclusives Killzone and MGS4 will be awesome, Haze was good, UT3 - whoa, that might be a Halo replacement (if you can't get your hands on Halo), Plus there will be a ton of multiplatform games coming to the PS3 as well: CoD4 (I think this will revise my CoD3 experience), Mercenaries 2, Frontlines - Fuel of War, Timeshift, etc. (I don't understand F.E.A.R.s review results, because IMO it plays great on the PS3, RB6-Vegas is out now) and racing games (Motorstorm is just great, but Dirt and Sega Ralley Revo is coming before end of the year, not to speak of GT5 (or prologue) next year. I'm not so much into sports, but these are available as well - Tiger Woods 07 hooked me up for weeks (but was rented, I am waiting for the 08 to buy).
So, I do not really understand the complains. The price is OK (not to mention BluRay - but if the network is a primary selling point, WiFi is a must), sure could be cheaper, and eventually will be (I don't regret to have spend $599, though). If you are serious, one can easily find reasons to go with a PS3 - as well as one can find reasons to buy a 360 or a Wii.
I too thought the controller was bad but actually its great. Not the same as 360 but different. I would still like rumble though.
A smart consumer would stay away from xbox360 because it has so many issues and its not worth the problems. Ps3 is pretty reliable and onslaught of good games coming out as always.Free online,Blueray,Regular updates,backwards compatible,wifi list goes on.
in all honesty u or anyone that has qualms with sony fankids wouldn't have to worry about hearing them if you dont come into a ps3 centric thing and bash it. if you just came in here and gave an honest opinion and stopped picking fights i doubt they would even talk as much because all that mmaters to them is the fact that they have ps3 games coming. if you notice you'll rarely ever see a sony fankid pour into an xbox360 centric forum in the volumes that most of the xbox fankids do in a ps3 seection just to bash. clearly it shows that this stupid flame war can be avoided easliy if people that like PS3 stay in ps3 threads and if xbox threads carried the interest of xbox fans. and if you were a ps3 fan that had an interest in an xbox game then you'd show interest in it.
alot of these xbox fans claim that they are gamers but really they bash . and i'm sure that PS3 fankids bash the 360 as well but look in the 360 forums and nearly all of the 360 forums are empty or only has 0 comments or 15 comments maximum on those pertaining to it.
maybe you all want a ps3 and it's cool it's ok to critize the price being too high but to bash just because you hate sony is ridiculous.
if we focused or efforts and staye don topic i'm sure plenty more people would have been persuaded to have a ps3 right now. whats funny is all the people i know love both the ps3s and the 360 i just dont know why we can have friend offline that have both consoles and get along with them and then come on here and be fanbois and girls to the point where we develop hate against a person who we've never met in person but could very well be one cool person to be around. all this fankid sh1t needs to stop.
anywho back on topic. The ps3 is one great machine and what ever is keeping people from owning it will slowly go away because what happening now is the releasing of quality software and new services. and feature refining the console and sony is showing more and more why it could be worth your while.
for your attempt to stop the hate!
First two sentences ring true. This site, and others, would be a lot better off WITHOUT trolls.
I disagree with your assessment that M$ haters don't do the same but, I do agree that it happens less often (maybe because there's less out there? dunno for sure).
I don't necessarily agree that the 2 factions need to avoid each others threads but, to post biased comments for the sole purpose of encouraging negativity clearly shows a lack of sense and maturity.
Post honest, objective, unbiased comments supported with facts.
It's that simple, and it seems that's what you've done here.
It's sad to think that you, AND now I, will prolly get disagrees and lose bubbles because of what we've said here but, I think the people that do that will have MISSED the point of your comment entirely.
i loved the playstation one games, absolutely loved them, just i cannot say the same about playstation 2.
Basically im a big shooter fan, and love online gaming, and hence i went for an xbox this time round. It was a simple decision, i have had no reliability issues as of yet, and if i do, id buy another one (as issues have now been dealt with). Like i hate the way people call me stupid for buying an xbox, or saying im not a "smart consumer" (paracardium)... I am a smart consumer, a very smart consumer, and i made my decision and it was the best decision for me. Like seriously man, quit being so prejudice. A smart consumer buys whats right for their needs, at the best value with the best reliabilty, granted Microsoft may fail me on one of those aspects, but Sony fails me easily on the other two.
If I had $500 or $600 to drop on a PS3, I'd do it. As it stands, I don't have that kind of money. With so many great titles coming to Xbox 360 that I want, it's hard to justify making such a purchase.
If (when) the price gets down to $300 or $400, and they have more games that I want to play, I'll most likely get a PS3. Killzone 2 is shaping up to be a must have game. If the PS3 isn't at a low enough pricepoint for ME when KZ2 releases, then I'll be left out :-( Eventually though, I'll own the console I believe, and KZ2 and whatever other great titles I can get only on PS3.
For now though, despite the failures of my Xbox 360, it's still a great gaming machine with a plethora of great titles.
Just to share my experiences with having to send my console in numerous times, MS has been very good to me in the sense that they're working to keep me happy despite my troubles. They've compensated me with a game (PGR3), an accessory (Quick Charge Kit) and a month of Live It may have been an accident, but when my console was replaced back in March, it came in a retail box and a wireless controller was with it.
In all my dealings with customer service, I haven't had a bad experience.
I sold my PS3 and bought an Xbox 360 because I looked at the games that were available, coupled to those announced and made a conscientious decision to switch brands. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, hell I've never even played more than an hour or so of Halo!
Last console generation, I'd have no qualms agreeing that the PS2 was king. However, this time around, the PS3 isn't quite there yet. I'm not ruling out the possibility of getting a PS3 down the road, but there's not much out NOW that would compel me to go back.
for being Microsoft fans, and not Microsoft-only enthusiasts (fanboys).
@Carlman23, owning only one console does not make a gamer a "Fanboy", what he/she say's does.
$300 price tag.
And definately more Blu-Ray space using games. (Like '2 Days to Vegas')
A $300 price tag and some really good games not no FPS i am talk about racing, sport, ex sport, action/adv, rpg and mmorpg games.
Pricecut would be appealing, but it doesn't matter for me since I can buy one from Ebay cheaply (Pricetag in Sweden, $800). The 2 things which would probably appeal are; controller redesign including rumble and more 3rd party exclusive games.
Of course I'd need more games, but I think that the ones I like (Japanese RPGs in particular) are going to come in due time. What I really need is for Sony to stop screwing up.
The one thing I did admire about Peter Moore was that I wasn't super pissed off at him every time I saw him in an interview. He generally didn't make outrageous comments and he really made it seem as though MS was listening to what gamers wanted; and is bringing it to them. Sony, on the other hand, keeps having these public PR disasters (decapitated goats, ludicrous claims, fake gameplay trailers, etc.) and I've lost a lot of trust/respect for the brand.
It's like Jack Tretton; what kind of idiotic statement is 'We don't buy exclusives, we earn them..."? Guess what Jack, as a PS3 owner, I'd much rather you just BOUGHT the damned exclusives so that I'd have a reason to recommend the console to my friends. Welcome to capitalism, there's nothing wrong with cash incentives used to bring good games to your loyal fans.
Anyways, I can totally see myself getting a PS3 again maybe next year. But right now I've seen a lot of promises and a lot of claims and I'd like to see some action (not fake price drops).
What would it take? Hmm...lol make a one day special for $100 and I'll buy 4 of them, I need em for a few rooms lol...but no seriously save your damn money you cheap asses, it's alot but it's worth the stuff you get.
edit:: why do I get a disagree for a joke saying I want 4 more playstations? and to stop being cheap...but the guy under me gets an agree for saying people shouldn't be cheap? lol you people crack me up.
lol yeah thats fked up.
You still got your bubbles, but it shows how immature some people can be. I don't see the reason why people need to act like such obvious blind fanboys i.e Bill Gates. What good does it do for you other then annoy the hell out of people and wasting your time to make people react to you like this? I hope that people can grow up and make mature comments. Its ok to talk about what is going on with the competition, but if i were to go to make comments in a ps3 discussion on how crappy it is, what do i gain from that? Lets stop acting like little kids and try to grow up. It shouldn't be hard to have a mature discussion about gaming so lets try.
Cheap gamers right here.
Okay in todays world mc-donalds get sewed over hot coffee. That goes to show you how stupid people are in todays world. Now take that and compare to the amount of people that probably didn't put the xbox in a ventilated area, and theirs your answer. Thank you!!!! My xbox has never given me one problem and i find it hard to beleive that everyone else's is crap other than mine. I keep in int a ventilated are rite beside my ps3. Now do i recommend the xbox darn rite i do.
Really good games out on the console, Oblivion, Gears of War, Rainbow Six, Project Gotham Racing, Forza Motorsports, Call of Duty 2and3, The list goes on.
Online service. The service is updated regularly, along with downlodable content, movies, music vidoes, games, game demos, etc. Not to mention that it is completely customizable. you can down load pics, stream line the pics to your console from your computer, stream line vidoes from your computer wether it be from a zune software, windows media player, or windows media center. it all works. and let me correct something ps3 you can stream line stuff but it's not as easy, and it's not as good you cant listen to music while your playing a game, the xbox you can any given time you can do that the ps3 your either playing a game or listening to music never both. (that sucks) and is very generic
Communcation, now this is something ps3 is trying to do but really has'nt perfected yet. the friends list is just kinda their like they said hey they did it we need somethng like it now. you cant talk to a friend if their not playing your game and their is no chekcing whos on , on your friends list if your playing a game you have to stop the game turn around and check. basically the whole multitasking thing on the ps3 isn't their at all. Hopefully home will fix that we'll see???????
Now the conclusion is, ps3 is a good system just is not put together rite as far as operating system, the line up of games is good but hey thats the future not now. And to compete that the future for the xbox is really good too.
Now please, tell me something the ps3 has to offer that the xbox doesn't already have. Thanks!!!!!!!
free online service?
the ability to stream movies, music and play games on a portable device? (unless Zune can do that now, not sure though)
(not flamebait! He DID ask!)
BTW, I just gotta add, nice avatar bro ;)
MGS4, final fantasy, blu ray great first party games that are shaping up nicely, really you have to look at it objectivly just because you have a 360 doesnt mean that it is the end all ultimate console. My brother has one, Ive got a ps3 and I admit there are a lot of games that I thoroughly enjoy, but most are I have to admit FPS. I think the ps3 will warrant a purchase because of Sony's long term goals. It isnt doing as good as it can in Japan but it will get there. I dont think it will catch up with wii anytime soon but then again that is for a different demographic. I think it all comes down to Japan, whether we like it or not that is where a consoles long term longevity is determined. Once these killer Japanese apps start rolling I think that ps3 purchase will be much more warranted.
We pay $50 for online service to be able to play on P2P, when Sony offers full server support which is alot better, just ask any PC user. The only thing you get for those $50 is crossgame chat, text messaging. M$ can keep those features and give me multiplayer for free.
As for the games you mention they're all multiplayer, and Geow is the only AAA title on the 360 exclusive in 2 years. So all this bullshit about 360 games is a joke if you count the existing library. My 360 is collecting dust because there is not one game besides Geow that interest me. I've been playing mostly PS2 games, watch my ad on ebay because I'll be selling my 360.
360 console 20gb - 399
xbox live 1year 50
hd dvd - 179
Play and Charge Kit rechargeable battery - 20
upgrade to 120gb - 179.99
playstation 3 60 - 499
ps network - free
blu ray free
rechargeable controller free
upgrade to 120gb - 66.99
in the long run your over paying
i had a xbox360 got for gears of war and lost planet
just when i started 2 getting
in the games red rings of death
showed up just when i was about 2 get 360's for my kids.
console should last more than 2 months
ps3 is running fine everbody in our town now has ps3 & wii
because i told everybody 360 burns out and
its not worth taking the change and buying one youll be
disappointed sony is good
More games that I can't get and play on my current system and a price cut. My 360 has worked perfectly since I got it and has plenty great games. Also I prefer the feel of the controller.
If Lair is as good as it looks then that will make 2 games I will get on the PS3 and thats still not quite enough for me to justify the purchase, especially not at the current price point. Killzone would probably make 3 with a price drop that may be enough. Give me something more as I have no interest in MGS and only passing interest in Heavenly Sword. Maybe I will look at FF but that depends Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyessy and Last Remanent as I have one or more of those targeted to see if I can tolerate full JRPG.
Any cross platform games I will continue to play on the 360 as I prefer the controller unless there is some game that is just so superior on the PS3 I cant pass it up. I dont expect that, I expect both platforms to perform about equally on cross platform games with only minor differences such as some motion control sections in some games, which I really have less then zero interest in. (yes less then zero as I have a negative opinion of motion control in general. I dont want my moving or shaking the controller to affect whats going on as it would just annoy me).
i'm assuming that everyone here has a 360 core system, cause saying you will only buy a ps3 if the price tag was $300 , that just justifies me saying that the majority of american gamers are cheap! and yes you do get what you pay for, a defective system for #300 and even $400. man talk about short arms and deep pockets!
ps i'm american too, but i'm not cheap
very true I have a british friend who tells me that americans are viewed in europe as penny pinchers. If you look at it that way then the ps3 is like the mercedez of gaming.
I am a pc gamer and I bought the sytstem for blu-ray.......
Many individuals and I mean MANY think upconverted dvd's look similar to blu-ray. I laugh because its a a HUGE DIFFERNCE on a 37+ inch monitor. It looks worse on a 100 inch projector
The own a ps2 and I know that the games will come out on ps3 so that is why I did not buy a stand alone player.
I bought it becasuse it is an all in one machine
I don't know, the money I could save up (to purchase a PS3) will go into the new releases this fall so it could take a while. I might get one down the road (some of those exclusives are looking pretty cool).
If you already have a 360, what's the point of you giving your 2 cents when you already made your purchase. When a 360 owner says there is no games on the PS3, that's BS. The PS3 has almost the same games Rainbow6, oblivion,darkness,sigma aren't those the so call killer games that are on the 360. I have a 360 since launch and I'm losing interest on it.
I bought a PS3 a month ago and so far I beleave it's a remarkable peice of hardware. I think PS3 including blu ray saved me alot of money. I don't mind paying $100 more because the features and extra power are worth more than that.
I would think this topic is for 360 owners. I mean its not for PS3 owners, you guys already own the console so why ask what it would take for you to buy it. The PC owners and Wii owners have also made a choice. Somehow I dont think theres a lot of non console owners on N4G. I guess it could be for PS2 people, but then why is it published in the 360 section?
"If you already have a 360, what's the point of you giving your 2 cents when you already made your purchase."
you dont have to be limited to one console?
and you know they are trolling just like you PS3 fans troll in 360 topics.
I like LBP, but its not enough for me to get one, the other games aint really my type of games either.
Unless shadow of the colossus 2 hits the store. =D
*keeps fingers crossed*
now your speaking my language brother. Actually I read somewhere that the team who made ICO and SotC is making two games as we speak, 1 for the PSP and 1 for the PS3. Well, I just read it somewhere a long while ago, so I don't know that much more about it. Anyways bubble for you for bringing back great memories.
What it took was a $100 price drop. I purchased a Blu Ray player that also happens to play games.
It would take a $399 price point and some AWESOME GAMES!!! Not one or 2 here or there either!
take a look at the line up
last year 360 had no real game at this time and and everybody was waiting
for gear of war and so stop acting like MS had some super line up of game most of them was crap so shut up b4 i wish those red rings on you
I'm a PS fan so I got mine at launch. But to answer the question for people who are still deciding. IMO, the simple answer is stellar games. For the price? Its justified because of all the features that comes right out of the box, though I got to admit that its pricey for casual people.
" Its justified because of all the features that comes right out of the box"
it could have been cheaper but they whent over the budged and now they have to win it back!
They got ways to go but they took this road with the ps2 before. We'll just have to wait and see if PS3 will have the same outcome.
Why are some of you guys asking for a $300.00 price tag? Be real, is the xbox premium $300.00? what makes you think a better made system with more features should be less?
I mean, i had no problem dropping $400.00 on my 360 nor did i have a problem dropping $200.00 more on my ps3 because i knew what i was getting in return, even if the games weren't there yet.
Some people want a $300 price point because that's the most they can justify spending to play video games. It just isn't worth $400 or $500 to some people, and many people can't afford another hundred dollars because they may have other financial obligations.
Those people will just have to wait a bit longer for what they want. That's all.
This whole price discussion is a bit strange. I think if you really plan to play games, the system price is neglect able. With game prices going to $60 you can't even buy 2 games for the $100 price difference. Compared to the price for the console, people should be aware, that the majority of their budget will go into games anyway.
I would need to have both the 360 and the Wii before I'd even consider buying the PS3 (I just like their game line-ups more and games are all that matters to me, I don't give a damn about extra features), and I would need to be able to buy it for $300.
And like McDonalds, I'm Luvin it.
That's all it took baby!
That and the promise of truly great exclusives.
At $499 it was more than worth it to me. I really wanted a Blu-ray player, and I know that ultimately there are going to be some awesome games on the PS3. Not to mention that I spent $498 on my 360 and the wireless adapter, so it's kinda hard for me to say the PS3 is too expensive for me at $499. What's another buck?
I'm very satisfied that I now have my PS3, my Wii and my 360. I get to play the best of each and I don't have to waste time in internet forums arguing about which one is better. Could my 360 break and have to be sent it for repair? Sure. But I'll still have something to do while it is gone. And honestly, any of the 3 could break. It seems that recently Wii's are having overheating issues of their own.
I already made up my mind about buying a PS3... so, nothing really.
I am just waiting to see what's going to be Sony's next move... are they going to drop the price again? will the new SKU come with the new controllers? I think Sony still a bit shaky when it comes to what they want to/going to do in terms of price and SKU... I know this would never happen... but I would hate buying a PS3 and then Sony saying that you need the latest SKU to support rumble. I think we all know what's Sony's is up to after Leipzig Game Convention. Besides since the games I'm buying the PS3 for are not out just yet... I can wait a bit longer. But the PS3 definelly a buy...