Twilight Princess was really good. I liked it a lot. But I'll never play it again. Right off the bat there's a dungeon with spiders than the dungeon near the end with only spiders. Bleh, not for me. Hope the new one doesn't do that.
And mikeslemonade, I'd vote on MGS3 being the best ever made. But Uncharted 2 is certainly up there as well (see bio).
I couldn't get more than a couple of hours into this game. It was terrible. "To wave your sword, waggle!" How about I just press a button? Here's a hint, if you're simply replacing button presses with a waggle, don't do it. It's irritating.
I have loved every single Zelda game since the beginning (yes, even the wind waker). TP was the first Zelda game that, not only did I not like, that I couldn't even bother to finish.
And it was all the fault of the Wii-Mote. I tried. I really tried to like this game. I wish I had played it on the Gamecube before I gave it to my nieces. The Wii-Mote controls just seemed tacked on and it completely ruined this game for me.
Just to put this in perspective.... Lets look at Wii Play. A game that is absolutely horrible, lets apply their logic of game quality. Metascore = 58 First week American sales = .18 million Wii install base of first week = 1.1 million
That's right! Wii Play is better than Mass Effect 2, the Orange box, Uncharted 2 and practically every other game this generation.
Their method is horrible, did they even care to think logically before writting this? It seems like they believe that you can put numbers into a calculator and the output will be a subjective opinion.
Yeah, "no" is right I loved Twilight Princess. I played it on the GameCude and it was great, but MGS4 is still the best game this gen to me. But I can see why someone would put this at the top of their list, it's one hell of a good game (plus, it has my favorite end boss battle ever).
i agree. As i feel the same way. You cant replace a button with waggle and expect it to work and be a viable option. Same thing happened with mario galaxy. The whole time i was thinking to myself this game could have best been played with a controller instead of waggling planet to planet.
How the hell did it take you that long to finish it? It took me a solid week during the summer (the summer after it came out), and I still went outside every single day with my friends for a few hours.
I'm a huge Zelda fan. I even have the Hylian emblem tattooed on my forearm [/nerd]. As great as Twilight Princess was, when I think back to it I always feel disappointed. This could be because of the hype or maybe it truly wasn't as memorable as past Zeldas.
But every now and then I catch a glimpse of someone else playing it and I get sent back to when I first experienced it. My mind really was blown. Fantastic puzzles, great boss battles, cool weapons: it has everything a Zelda game needs to be great.
I think the reason my memory gets tarnished is because I hate remembering being a wolf. That was awful for me. Save for maybe two quests, all of the time spent as a wolf was just so frustrating and not very fun. I wish I could automatically get excited about the level design and stuff, but my memory is just stuck on that god awful wolf part.
Okami did the wolf thing way better, in my opinion. If you ask me Twilight Princess is a fantastic game and in many ways it can battle it out with many a great Zelda. However, I wouldn't say it's the best game this generation. One of the best experiences, but not THE best. Perhaps even by far.
Eh... definitely not the best game this gen, IMO. The game was big and empty, many of the items were useless, and the bosses were incredibly easy. Actually, the entire game was easy. I never came close to losing all my hearts except for when you have to fight those two Darknuts (I think that's what they are) simultaneously. That was quite difficult, but the rest of the game wasn't a challenge at all. I tried to play it again to see if I still felt that way, but I quickly lost interest. It's kind of boring to be honest. Not a bad game, but one of the worst Zeldas.
Link To The Past was one of the best games in its gen. I remember that game more than any other SNES game. If it wasn't that damn good, 3D Dot Game Heros wouldn't exist.
Hey man, you're entitled to your opinion, but acting like only idiots like Zelda when Ocarina of Time is almost unanimously considered the best game of all time by reviewers and consumers alike just makes you look bad.
I dont think so, and I bought a Wii at launch just to play it. The motion controls a fairly unresponsive and the game itself was pretty standard. ei just what you'd expect from Zelda, and nothing more.
I enjoyed Windwaker more to be honest, exploring while sailing is great. And the graphics were better too despite being on early gen hardware.
Theres been some awesome games this gen but LBP is the one thats changed the landscape for me. Theres nothing else like it, and doesnt look like there ever will be. Part 2 just looks to raise that bar even higher to a point overs wont dream of touching.
Not really this generation I got this on Gamecube which I believe was a last gen console. Perhaps the article should be best game of the last 5 years, which something as derivative Zelda would not be.
The methodology used is stupid and fails to take into account that TW was a launch title. There was little to choose from at the time and it was the first Zelda game on Wii, so of course it did well. So it sold really well to a very small user base, which because of the formula used, puts it on top by a huge margin. It's not the best game this gen, there are much better games on that list.
Edit. UC2 was decent albeit forgetable. It is highly overrated imo.....but then again I never really liked the first. It pushes graphical fidelity on consoles but little else. Of course,I preferred WKC,Infamous,LBP,MGS,Warhawk..
hell no Why is it that every time a Zelda game comes out it supposedly trounces every other game ever made? Now so far this gen for me so far is UC2. That game is amazing and universally acclaimed
ps. Zelda Ocarina of time is not the greatest game of all time. Its not even in my personal top 10.
Ocarina of Time did a lot more for gaming in it's generation than Uncharted 2 has, and maybe more than any game since. You don't have to like, love, or bow down to it, but you should have a little respect. Without Ocarina, games like Uncharted 2 wouldn't exist!
OCOT WAS awesome...not by some random leap of faith or 'fanboy' agenda. It set the bar,raised the 'bar' and still is the bar..... By which adventure/fantasy games are measured....HD or not.
I love action adventure , FPS , RPGs and MMoRGs(long duration games like EQ and WoW).
I have played many uber beautifull games on my PS3 and Wii on this gen but the most complete(well, they don't have any online mode) games for me were Elder Scroll's 4: Oblivion or Fallout3 .
Played Oblivion for a bit more then a full year annd FA3 for around 9 months and they don't even have an online mode of some kind.
I think that MGS4 is the best game this generation so far.... it is epic, fun and such a well crafted masterpiece that revive the PS3 during the doom days.
TP is my Fav 3d zelda I have no questions about it. It took everything OoT did and expanded it. The Boss battles were epic. The Dragon boss battle could be classified as one of the most cool battles i've ever seen and to me, TP felt like a 3d version of A Link To The Past which is my Fav Zelda game.
I agree with it being one of the best games this gen, but the best, maybe not. My personal fav would be MGS4 for all the things it did for the fans.
Metascore, sales, and install base are okay to analyze, but you have to take timing into account. Twilight Princess was the game to get when you got a Wii, and a lot of people got a Wii. It was a good game for its time and for a launch title, so the ratings were very high.
By doing these stats, he wasn't measuring what he thought he was measuring. The "best" game of this generation, a generation that's far from over, isn't going to be determined by finding the most ubiquitous and highly-rated title at one point in time; you're only finding exactly that, which has nothing to do with being "the best."
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No!
how so?
concerning the article, TP is a great game, it gets too much hate
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Or use gamecube controller, or does it not let you on the Wii version?
And mikeslemonade, I'd vote on MGS3 being the best ever made. But Uncharted 2 is certainly up there as well (see bio).
It was terrible. "To wave your sword, waggle!" How about I just press a button? Here's a hint, if you're simply replacing button presses with a waggle, don't do it. It's irritating.
I have loved every single Zelda game since the beginning (yes, even the wind waker). TP was the first Zelda game that, not only did I not like, that I couldn't even bother to finish.
And it was all the fault of the Wii-Mote. I tried. I really tried to like this game. I wish I had played it on the Gamecube before I gave it to my nieces. The Wii-Mote controls just seemed tacked on and it completely ruined this game for me.
Do you wanna offer an opinion then to whats the best instead of just saying no?
Lets look at Wii Play. A game that is absolutely horrible, lets apply their logic of game quality.
Metascore = 58
First week American sales = .18 million
Wii install base of first week = 1.1 million
Quality = metascore*sales/installbased
Quality = 58*.18/1.1
Quality = 9.5
That's right! Wii Play is better than Mass Effect 2, the Orange box, Uncharted 2 and practically every other game this generation.
Their method is horrible, did they even care to think logically before writting this? It seems like they believe that you can put numbers into a calculator and the output will be a subjective opinion.
I think you missed the first step where they get a list of the high scoring games.
I loved Twilight Princess. I played it on the GameCude and it was great, but MGS4 is still the best game this gen to me. But I can see why someone would put this at the top of their list, it's one hell of a good game (plus, it has my favorite end boss battle ever).
As i feel the same way. You cant replace a button with waggle and expect it to work and be a viable option. Same thing happened with mario galaxy. The whole time i was thinking to myself this game could have best been played with a controller instead of waggling planet to planet.
i'd have to say NO. for me it's VC
But every now and then I catch a glimpse of someone else playing it and I get sent back to when I first experienced it. My mind really was blown. Fantastic puzzles, great boss battles, cool weapons: it has everything a Zelda game needs to be great.
I think the reason my memory gets tarnished is because I hate remembering being a wolf. That was awful for me. Save for maybe two quests, all of the time spent as a wolf was just so frustrating and not very fun. I wish I could automatically get excited about the level design and stuff, but my memory is just stuck on that god awful wolf part.
Okami did the wolf thing way better, in my opinion. If you ask me Twilight Princess is a fantastic game and in many ways it can battle it out with many a great Zelda. However, I wouldn't say it's the best game this generation. One of the best experiences, but not THE best. Perhaps even by far.
it is shocking that title is the winner by such a huge margin.
surprising what calculators say.
There have been so many other games this gen that blow this one out of the water; it doesn't matter what their math says.
Nuff Said
I enjoyed Windwaker more to be honest, exploring while sailing is great. And the graphics were better too despite being on early gen hardware.
Theres been some awesome games this gen but LBP is the one thats changed the landscape for me. Theres nothing else like it, and doesnt look like there ever will be. Part 2 just looks to raise that bar even higher to a point overs wont dream of touching.
Because of its early use for softmodding. lol
any 360 or wii exclusive is the worst game this gen
I know the site is goin pro sony but that was a bit much.......
I got this on Gamecube which I believe was a last gen console. Perhaps the article should be best game of the last 5 years, which something as derivative Zelda would not be.
But theres a game calles Uncharted 2 availible now...maybe they should pick up a copy.
Well,UC2=No.I disagree.
TLP=No.I disagree .
KZ2=No.I disagree .
My fave....this current gen,neither UC2 or TLP......
UC2 was decent albeit forgetable.
It is highly overrated imo.....but then again I never really liked the first.
It pushes graphical fidelity on consoles but little else.
Of course,I preferred WKC,Infamous,LBP,MGS,Warhawk..
Why is it that every time a Zelda game comes out it supposedly trounces every other game ever made? Now so far this gen for me so far is UC2. That game is amazing and universally acclaimed
ps. Zelda Ocarina of time is not the greatest game of all time. Its not even in my personal top 10.
WAS awesome...not by some random leap of faith or 'fanboy' agenda.
It set the bar,raised the 'bar' and still is the bar.....
By which adventure/fantasy games are measured....HD or not.
I have played many uber beautifull games on my PS3 and Wii on this gen but the most complete(well, they don't have any online mode) games for me were Elder Scroll's 4: Oblivion or Fallout3 .
Played Oblivion for a bit more then a full year annd FA3 for around 9 months and they don't even have an online mode of some kind.
This is the best game for the wii but best game? No not even close.
MGS4 is the best game this generation so far....
it is epic, fun and such a well crafted masterpiece that revive the PS3 during the doom days.
I have no questions about it. It took everything OoT did and expanded it. The Boss battles were epic. The Dragon boss battle could be classified as one of the most cool battles i've ever seen and to me, TP felt like a 3d version of A Link To The Past which is my Fav Zelda game.
I agree with it being one of the best games this gen, but the best, maybe not. My personal fav would be MGS4 for all the things it did for the fans.
By doing these stats, he wasn't measuring what he thought he was measuring. The "best" game of this generation, a generation that's far from over, isn't going to be determined by finding the most ubiquitous and highly-rated title at one point in time; you're only finding exactly that, which has nothing to do with being "the best."
So, a mediocre looking game, that felt old and tired and looked like crap
best ? nope
worst ? maybe, but there is competition there