Halo Reach looks fantastic but with that said most of what you've seen is simply "placeholder" material in Halo Reach, at least according to Bungie. It's only now that Reach is starting to really come together.
The game is not going to look much better than the beta in multiplayer. Now single player thats another story.
considering they said pre alpha screens had a lot of placeholder and then showed pre beta screens and they were "much better" than alpha, you cant really come to conclusions until you actually see it from what i read, they are now adding the weather effects, and im sure that will make things look a lot better and set the mood for the levels...especially how realistic the effects are supposed to play out, with areas that are covered and shouldnt get wet arent getting wet...i cant wait to see a vidoc or screens of recent builds
The Generator Defense map 'Outlook' was pulled straight from the campaign, and it looked significantly better than the other three mp maps we were playing. ...But im sure everything will look better in general come September :)
I agree with you about multiplayer. It was the same for the halo 3 beta. When the full game came out, there wasn't much of a difference in visuals.
OK.. Reach looks better than Halo 3, that's a given.. So who here really thinks Reach looks better than Killzone 2? I really want to know.
It shouldnt have to look different just because its multiplayer, If they were good (or better) theyd be able to make both ends look awesome without any changes.
God i hope so, I've been playin Halo 3/ODST more lately and i was really hoping for a huge graphical leap or at least get some AA in their.
Ha i get disagrees because of a bunch of butthurt fanboys think im putting the game down when really its just what i want out of the game. I've grown very fond of the Halo franchise and was hoping Bungie would really up the bar like everyone was saying.
Or maybe it is the fact that the game does look better and has AA...
they have really upd the bar graphically. edit-why dont images show bigger -.-
well it's out in september or around there so they'd better step on it. personally, IMO the kz3 and crysis 2 reveals made any visual impact this game had/or will have fizzle out like a wet match.
halo dnt need to have better graphics its kz n crysis that will remain in the shadows of halo.
Its looking good to me.The explosive effects received a good boost with Reach
wow really reported as a troll for stating that the graphics are not as good as people are saying HAHAHA...that is some serious fanboyism right there. For the record I will be getting this game just like Halo 1-3(given it gets a good rating) its just I never understood why people lie and pretend something is better than it really is, we all play the same game and pretending something is better than it truly is(graphics in this case) because you like it alot, is just showing your true nature.
You just can't help yourself can you? If they say the game has been shown with place holders it is. I doubt they would repeat what happened with Halo hence the major engine overhaul. All you have to do is mention Halo and the game's development status for PS3 fanboys to come a running. The leap between Halo games is much greater than the Killzone games. I can't even tell that KZ3 was upgraded graphically. You act like this is news when they announced this months ago. LOL PS3 fanboys trolling articles relating to the "MULTI PLAYER BETA" I agree with (polow got sol) the PS3 fanboys are comparing very different game designs in these games. KillZone games; like most other supposedly unmatched PS3 exclusives are linear, as for games on the 360 they are more complex hybrid games usually open. Now I don't know if Sony and devs chose linear games because it's easier to make them impressive looking at the cost of true next gen game design -or- prefer them because they can get them out faster with less fighting the hardware. Microsoft prefers to push Next Gen game design such as Alan Wake, Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption etc. Plus the 360's hardware is powerful and runs these games better than any console on the market. When Microsoft does do linear games with visuals in mind you get games like Metro 2033.
Halo 2 and Halo 3 betas were pretty much the same graphics as the final product the engine got better but they are not gonna pull a miracle in the last months of development. Your bragging about the leap between halo games graphics? Thats like bragging that this year truck has gained more horsepower compared to last year version compared to this year and last year Ferrari. When talking about halo, brag about gameplay not graphics. Now Crysis>Killzone2>everyt hing else including halo reach in beta. Most likely outcome: Crysis 2> Killzone 3> Everything else including halo reach final. Edit: Oh you changed your comment, see thats a better defense, however saying that microsoft console runs better its exclusive games isnt the best way to prove your point. ¿And Metro wasn´t supposed to be easier on the system and as such should have achieved better graphics according to your logic?
deal with it.
I believe its much easier to tell whem a game goes from 576p to 720p no? Even so, who cares, KZ2 looks better than all 3 halos for 360 or any other 360 game for that matter.
I want to know what is so "next gen design" and "nonlinear" about Alan Wake, since you seem to harp this argument in every thread that you whine about PS3 fanboys in... Halo Reach looks like a bigger leap because Bungie is a talented team and have improved their engine. Not to mention, Halo 3 was hardly a graphics powerhouse.
lol you guys are feeding the hallmark troll.
Look haloreach is gonna be great, but be sure that wen u list games that they atleast run in 720p native Rez.
It will be sad to see Bungie no longer making a Halo Game. Halo Reach looks fantastic. Everything shown so far has been incredible. The graphics are on par with all the great games released this gen. I thought Halo 3 was a beautiful game with some of the best lighting around. Halo Reach looks to not only top those graphics but they want to have huge levels with multiple intelligent AI...lofty goals but if their is a developer out there I would trust, these would be the guys. Developers have to make sacrifices in order to build the game they want. There are only so many resources to go around. I trust this will be the best Halo ever, and one of the best FPS's ever. Why compare Halo to KZ? KZ is a good game with good graphics. Halo the same. In terms of popularity, there's no comparing. IMO, Halo is a better made game with a richer story line and a much better cast of characters and villains. I plan on playing both. Big difference is Halo Reach is coming in ( 14 wks ) September. When is KZ3 coming out? BTW...I think the grunts deserve there own game...lol...chk out the vid...fans only...haters may become jealous...
I see the trolls and ps3 fanboys are out in full force. What's wrong not enough killzone 3 news to keep you aroused?
the campaign now that is where the magic of reach will surely shine as helllll
Yep The difference between halo 3 campaign and multiplayer is night and day difference
I don't see where he said "most of", I'm ready "plenty of that content". That's not the same thing at all.
I thought the beta looked pretty ugly
I liked the graphics and textures, especially Overlook which was way better looking than the other maps, but I never got a chance to look around, generator defence was awesome. E3 can't come soon enough, I want to check out some campaign footage.
I couldn't enjoy Overlook due to the lag. I hope they fixed the co-op netcode...
Honestly i was pretty impressed with what I saw in the beta, but now thats in the past i want to see how the final release is going to look.
but that would make the equivalent of halo 3 size and on the vidoc bungie said reach environments would be more more enormous than any other halo game
How did you arrive at that?
It's clearly stated. Are you pretending to be ignorant?
...he was pretending. :o
We all know that the finished product will look just like alpha footage. I like great GFX but it's only part of the game as a whole. I can't wait for launch. We have a Lan party al ready scheduled. 4 HD projectors, 4 100" screens, 4 360's and 16 people. September will be great.
For those who have not played the reach beta disregard this post.reach is the miles stone for bungie.i found the reach beta to be a breath of fresh air in the franchise.bungie took the shackles of of halo and let it run loose.i acutualy love reach and i can,t wait to see the campain mode.what makes halo different from other FPS,s? gameplay, community and support by bungie.if you want graphics play killzone or crysis.if you want true match making,community and gameplay play reach when it comes out.
looked like it could of been released as one of the first 360 games. It was my first Halo multiplayer experience... color me unimpressed.
yes the graphics is important in game, halo reach will never reach the visual of KZ, but its all about the gameplay. if a game look good it will impress everybody. but if doesnt have great gameplay it gets old fast. halo has an enjoyment that not even KZ could achieve. thats how beast halo series is. people can keep comparing KZ to Halo, but i doubt PS3 have any exclusive shooter that has a massive fanbase that people love compare to HALO
Haloreach is gonna be great dude, no doubt about it, but fanbase had nothing to do with how great the game is. Example, many ppl believe as do I that mass effect2 was one of the best games on the 360 yet it sold only a little more then a million on 360 pc combined understand. It's all about the hype and ad campaign that Microsoft puts into the halo game. Yes halo has always sold countless millions, but besides halo and gears, wat other xbox exclusives has sold more then let's say 2-3 million. Sony just uses all their money and power on putting out more exclusives and more quality as for microsoft puts all their might and cash on one game to sell well. Not bashing, just an observation. I think Sony has more exclusives that has made good metacritic scores and has sold more then 2mil as for Microsoft has lots of exclusives with low sales and then there is halo and gears with nearly or more then 10mil sales. Anyone feel free to prove wrong because my statement is from what I remember reading from different sourses from the past. If I'm wrong I would like to know.
Redrum; I don't necessarily agree or disagree but your assessment of a successful MSFT game is a bit misconstrued. What game has sold more than 2-3 million I don't know exactly but I do know that a MSFT platinum hit is a game that has sold more than a mil in it's first 9 months so aside from halo/gears. we have: Ace Combat 6 Banjoe and Kazooie Condemend Crackdown DoA 4 Dead Rising Fable II Forza Kameo Left 4 Dead (not exclusive) Mass Effect (not exclusive) Perfect Dark zero Project Gotham Viva Pinata The thing with halo is this; some would say it single handidly kept the xbox alive. If I was a betting man I'd say it was to xbox what Gran Turismo is to Sony. So it's safe to say that the Halo community can't be compared to many other games and that goes for Sony titles as well.
A lot of great games coming at the end of the year.
Halo Reach graphics were great for a Halo game but compared to heavy hitters like GOW3, Uncharted 2, Gears of war 2, Heavy Rain, etc it wasn't anything special so I think you used a bit of hyperbole in the first paragraph. That being said, I had a blast with the beta so this is good news.
With all do respect,a large fan base shows the greatness of a game.you can,t compare Mass effect to HALO.ones an rpg and the other is fps.the halo commnity is a vibrant community.it,s not the hype and ads that sell lots of halo.it,s community,gameplay and support from it,s developer that makes this franchise stand out from the rest.go to bungie.net to see how many folks are enjoying halo. @ps3best KZ3 has alot to prove to seperate itself from the other FPS,s.graphics alone is not gonna do it.it has some larger shoes to fill
the main reason halo is popular was back on the original xbox it was the first FPS to have such a distinct feel to it and control a vibrant online community, I lost count the hours I spent playing Halo MP. With each game more money was spent on the games and more joined the online community and so now its pretty damn big, but the problem is that just because there are a lot of people on a game doesn't mean its sequels are automatically great. Halo 3 was certainly popular if you check the sheer numbers playing online but reach is yet to be released and calling it great before its even released is partly why the hype of halo is so large. Me i'll wait for the game to be released but you are wrong to say large sales and even large fan base makes a great game, it makes a popular game but greatness is not universal it depends on who's playing it.Meaning different games are great to different people(i know it sounds like a cop out but its true)
I can't disagree with u bro but now let's put gears into the picture. Many (i'm talking about xbox ouners) ppl complain about it's laggy online, yet it sold countless millions. Is it still an awsome online exp like halo? I'm saying it's all about the ad campaign. Yes there is a grand community for halo but u can't deny that a large portion of that community is as informed of the gaming industry and of all the other great games out there as u and I are. Halo is a great game yes but many ppl also say half life is one of the best series yet I know for a fact that if I ask all of my halofan friends about half life, mostlikely all of them aren't gonna know wat the hell I'm talking about. Yes halo is great and I enjoyed the hell out of reach beta, halo got it's fame and popularity from it's Microsoft ad campaign. For crying out loud, Microsoft spent millions on liveaction trailers and mtdew ads on halo.
ads help sell halo,but the multiplayer sells itself.the continued support from bungie keeps the community playing halo everyday.
I agree that Halo is the topic here...and not Killzone. It seems 360 fans mention it more than the PS3 guys out there. hmm. lol. can't we all just get along. lmao.
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