When Final Fantasy VIII was released it cost £50 new. Finding a physical copy right now might cost you considerably more as it’s a vintage title, or you could purchase it on the PlayStation Network for around £8.
Got about 100 games bought on steam. Never have to worry about losing disks or them getting scratched. Also i can get new or old games without ever worrying about out of stock situations. Internet speeds are really fast now. I have a 16mb/s connection, downloads 8gig games in about 45mins, easily beats going to a retail shop wasting time and gas to buy a physical copy. Id say DD is the way to the future.
And if your hard drive breaks? That's 800GIG+ you have to re download. With many publishers going for a download 5 times policy don't you think it's a limited resource? Now you also have the problem of inflated prices, a year old steam game cost more than a retail version of the same game... and that's with the competition of other stores, imagine if PSN/XBL was the only medium to get new games. They'd cost $60 and never go down in price. And games are getting larger and larger... currently 15 GIG is the what I think the average new release on PC is. That'll go up and up... PS3 is at 25 GIG/50 GIG.
Steam is a great service but it has its flaws, lose your account lose all your games. Also the price ripping off of us Aussies is ridiculous. Digital downloads on the PC is the future but no where near for consoles.
and if your game breaks your fucked
Least if your house catches fire you still have all your games.
Who keeps all their games installed at all times? I download a handful of games, play them and uninstall them when I've finished them. I can re-download whenever I want to. The argument about inflated prices doesn't hold. Sure, some games are expensive, but certainly not all of them. And don't forget about the deals. Just in the last few weeks I bought Dirt 2 for $10 (Orig. Release Dec 1, 2009) and Tropico 3 for $8 (Orig. Release Oct 20, 2009).
As a PC gamer, I know that my HDD will break one day and that's why I have 2 HDD in raid 1. Not all PC gamers have 2 Hard drives but at least we are given the option to do so. I could make up a similar senario with the console. What if the dvd drive breaks and your warranty expires? That means you'll have to spend $120 to replace the dvd drive and wait 1-2 weeks getting it back.
Drives arent expensive these days. My primary HD are: 80gig SSD in raid- 160gigs in total this holds the games i am currently playing 2tb storage drive- This hardly gets used and is used for backing up any unused games. I could add in another drive for back up but i find that kind of pointless. Yes some games on steam can be costly, however majority of the time the deals are great. For example i buy 4pack MP games with my friends... i bought games like: Borderlands L4d2 bioshock 2 for 33usd a piece at launch u cant get those sort of deals at any retailer, also the limitless supply. Also majority of games this gen are still within 8gb unless its some huge RPG like dragonage or witcher which can go upto 15gigs. Takes me 1.5hours -2hours to download those. Agreed for consoles it would be bad if it went all DD, cause PSN/XBL would have no competition and prices would just not move. However on PC there are too many stores and they need to compete with each other which is why we get great deals on PC.
i prefer psycially in the shap of blu ray realistically for alot of 3rrd party ps3 games theres no need for dlc and the ps3 and disk scratching is not an issue unles your actually trying 2
Physical > Digital Physical Media FTW!!!
DD may have some technical aspects, but I believe that the most overlooked aspect (and under appreciated) about physical media is the culture and atmosphere built around it. Box art, manuals, and the disk itself hold an infinite tangible value that digital media may never have. The beauty of scanning my game boxes, admiring the art, the details, and the love gone into the creation of the physical form is something that will forever attach me to physical media. I consider myself a collector (as I'm sure many of you do), and digital games will just never hold that special place in my heart that validates them as members of my gaming collection. Yes, I do own a couple games that exist solely in a digital format, but I feel no connection to them, which is a great travesty. The excitement of bringing a new game home from a store, the everlasting value of art and form, and the connection that both of those build is vital to maintaining the gaming culture and the love for gaming. Physical media is a part of the overall experience, and without that part, my games would feel incomplete. I suppose that others are content with sole convenience, or maybe even do manage to feel a connection to their digital games (and that's great if you do), but I can't feel that bond and that alone is enough to place physical media as my preference. Digital media feels like a mere formality, like a game and nothing more, while physical media takes the experience beyond the game. I'm very outspoken about this, and I apologize, but it really is the largest factor for me in the battle between physical media and DD, and is something that collectors should hopefully understand.
While I was reading your comment my eyes glanced over to my copies of MGS1 , FF1-10 lined up on my desk like books in a bookcase...Good times.
blu ray disk i would rather own my collection same goes for games i think blu ray is here to stay 1080p anyday real high def not some fake live with 1080p not real high def and the picture with blu ray crystal clear image blu ray for the future end of statement
Bluray doesnt translate to 1080p games... Since games on bluray are only present on the PS3 and PS3 only runs 5% of its games in 1080p. Unless you ment movies on the bluray then yea.
The blu-ray STORES the data. It doesn't process it. Silly Willy. On topic, I'll always prefer to have a hardcopy of a game if I can get it. Although, I think I could be open to an all DD handheld. But it has to have FULL (all) game support, unlike the Go with PSN.
he wasnt talking about games genuises while he used the term games his main statement was about movies
I have a really really slow internet connection(200Kbytes/s) so downloading games takes too much time. Also I don't have to worry about my HDD breaking down and i like the discs, i like the manual and i also like the ritual of putting the disc in the machine for the very first time
Funny I just thought of when I picked up RDR last week. It felt like christmas in may, I couldn't tear the plastic faster enough and chilled, flipping through the manual knowing its going to be a awsome game. Same excitement with demons souls , good thing I bought the pre-order it came with a strategy guide the same size as the case.
i just like hardcopy....
Compare the sales of GTA4 verses the DLC and that will give you you're answer.
You can buy the DLC on disc as well. Besides, your comment makes no sense, the DLC is bound to not make as much impact as the initial release of GTA4.
Physical copy all the way for me , it's more tangible , actually feels like you own it , i also like to read the manual (Nowadays they're normally rubbish tho) , enjoy the artwork etc . Same goes for movies and music , i prefer hardcopy.
This is why: I like to see my collection on the shelf. I just like to look at it. It gives me a sence of pride. If you are a collector you'll understand. Also what happens when one day company X decides that they won't offer a particular game anymore that you purchased for $50 and for some reason you don't have it downloaded. Than you decide to play the game for some reason and you aren't able to because there is no possible way to own it anymore. I think true ownership comes when you can actually hold something in your hand. Otherwise it can be taken away from you in a second and you won't even know what just happend. Also storage space. MGS4 is 50gigs. How many HDD's will you need?? I know they are getting bigger and bigger but regardless. Even to download a 50gig file takes forever. Also to take a nice walk to the store insted of sitting home like a lazy @sshole is much better for you. I got a GameStop about 2 minutes where I work and a Best Buy about 2 blocks down. People should stop being lazy and get walking maybe. At least you do some "workout". I'm against DD. Some add-on content is fine but full games I won't ever support. When the DD days come....and it will I will just play my good old games that I collected through out the years.
Impluse is the best digital service, after downloading, you don't even need to use the app to play the game, so you can download it and reinstall it without ever using the impluse client, that is freedom that you will never get with steam. But I still prefer retail 1. Steam is a rip off, I have yet to see 1 game that is cheaper on steam at launch than a physical copy I can order online... 2. The control of it is in your hands; I can install my game whenever I please and don't have to install 3 gig of mandatory updates etc... hassle free gaming with physical copies.
would you rather have a girl in real life,even though dating costs a few bucks or pay less to just look at a girl online? as a collector a hard copy is always preferable.
Physical copies are the future. for consoles.
1. You can carry it with you from place to place. 2. You can make money by selling it to someone. 3. You can trade games. Those can't be done with DDL. I have purchased a few arcade games but I get full games in the physical.
actually you can carry dl games from place to place. eg steam lets u back up games to disc
who wants to back up games on discs... that would take forever. With physical copies , I can just pick up and leave.
I like having the choice for both really, the more choice you have to purchase your games the better. I wouldn't like to totally go DD, I still like buying games from the shops and owning a physical product.
Aphe makes a good point. With physical games you have the option of trading and making some money off it. While thats not a reason to totally support physical, its one reason I will personally always prefer a physical copy.
I love steam for that reason alone.DD is here and will be the future.how many arcade games that are played on PSN and XBL are hard copy? lets be clear developers hate gamestop and others like them.the less they deal with them,the more money for the developer and less we have to pay for games
physical > digital. Always. if you lose your connection to the service provider (out of busines for example), for the most part your content is history, and you cant do anything about it (TOS).At the same time if your physical medium connecting you to that particular service fails, you have redownload every bit of information anew. Not only that , but for some reason devs think digital copies should be held to different laws than the same physical copy, ie (cant share legally unless tos says so.) And if you are allowed to share, you are usually restricted to limited amount of people. digital has many glaring flaws. The most glaring is that going digital only favors the developers,publishers, etc, because they get rid of our bargaining power.
Ok for one if you are dealing with e.g valve you dont have to worry about them going out of buisness. saying "if your physical medium connecting you to that particular service fails, you have redownload every bit of information anew." is the same as saying if your game breaks you have to buy a new copy. only the difference is a DD game is free to redownload. aren't allowd to share. if you are desperate to share give your friend your username and password and wipe your credit card info before hand just to be sure. you have infinite downloads as long as you log in
to say valve will never go out of business is foolish. What if valve decides to drop Steam and use something else and say that they wont support games with the new service. This is in the real of reality look what happened to the XBOX. I'm sure valve is thinking about the future and looking for a new service so they can dump a lot of waste and start anew. Say TOS says you can only share with 5 people, that means only 5 people can download that same content, including yourself. There are ways to keep track of how many times that content has been downloaded, so sharing with unlimited people is out of the question. Digital works to lock in the customer; I don't know why its hard to see.
You're speaking out your ass spektical. They are all for open source and believe that a companies success is through consumer satisfaction. They will be facing lawsuits from pretty much everyone with a steam account if Valve ever decides to ditch their customers by disabling steam. And, who support a company who ditched their 25 million user base?
physicall all the way for me. i hate DLC. and i have a good Download speed.
I usually just buy where the price is lower. Satellite internet has to be factored in for me too...
Blu-ray format maybe short lived if internet speeds continue to climb to 50mbps and beyond.downloading games and streaming movies in full 1080p and 7.1 surround sound would be wonderful.mark it on your calender guys that day is coming upon us.
Physical all the way
I don't care what anyone says, I just don't feel like I really own something unless I can physically hold it in my hands. And with digital downloads, they restrict the amount of times you are allowed to download, so for all intents and purposes they are just lending you the damn thing. Plus, I love my game shelf, all my games stacked up nicely, with my extra goodies from special editions.
When you buy as many games as me, 100+ Steam titles, you can't keep around that many discs. I'm too damn lazy to put in a disc anyway, double click 4tw.
I had 120 PS2 games but sold around a 100. I got 300+ blu-ray movies. The way you store them is very simple. You have to buy shelves. It's very easy really. If you need help I can create a guide of how to buy a shelf or cabinet....put it together and place your disc's inside or on it. Not that difficult. I know....seams like a hard thing to do but in time you could do it too my son! :D
for some of the people here, things like that are hard to do.
I don't like the idea of throwing something I paid money for into the wind (i.e. deleting it to save space). I know i can download it again, but with the physical copy, I just have to put it in the tray, and I ALWAYS have it on hand. I know you can buy hard-drives, but that just seems more expensive than it needs to be. If I run out of drive space, I have to invest another 50% of the console's price to store more games. I have enough shelf space to hold a couple hundred more games, probably. I could maybe accept DD if a console had enough drive space to store all the games i will ever buy for it. But I would also miss the physical copies sitting on my shelf to peruse, and the instruction manuals to look through before I get time to play the game. I love DD for add-on content, or for small games like PixelJunk Shooter, but for full games, nothing will ever beat the physical copy. Also, OnLive is ridiculous, in my opinion. Pay a monthly fee for the service, PLUS pay for the right to play individual games. Not to buy them, mind you, you pay a one time fee to essentially lease them because they are stored elsewhere. Feels like double dipping.
"...only had a very limited number of games on release. This, along a price tag only £50 less than a PlayStation 3, led to the Go selling less than 300 thousand units before the end of 2009." - Iain Warren, gamekudos.com Do you know how many peripherals Microsoft over prices, and a portable PlayStation that does just that, a PlayStation in your hands doesn't sell mainly because of the price point At the same time an HDD costing the same price as a console and all it does it is store data sells like hot cakes when you can get the same thing for a fraction of the price? I'm wondering if Project Natal will be the same price as a console and all it is, is a 3D camera.
I have steam and must admit it has flaws along with certain advantages that I will list. Pros: -No CD/DVD to keep up. -Games are available to any PC. -Combo Deals. -Steam keeps track of all your CD keys Cons -Valve can ban your account and you lose all your games. -Trading, selling, or sharing your games or accounts is not permitted. Any accounts caught being shared or sold will be permanently disabled. -Not appealing to those with slow connections. The Cons shows how much Valve has authority and power over their customers. So I can understand why having hard copies of games gives them ownership because Valve can easily take away my account with little to reason if they choose.
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