Snipers can change the scope of a battlefield, however when they go rogue and only concern themselves with personal stats and thrills, snipers can be very selfish and thus, very useless. In Battlefield: Bad Company 2, this happens a lot.
Hate sniper players in BC2. It's one of the reasons that stops me from playing. They are selfish, clueless, and generally don't understand how to play. It's also not even called a sniper class it's a recon class meaning it has an actual team-playing role. I play Recon with a VSS silencer, 4x scope and always play near my squad throwing motion sensors. It's too bad that Snipers play the way they do. Ruins BC2 which is an otherwise fantastic game.
Snipers are usually selfish in all games Can't comment on BC2 because I've not played it I don't know how many times I've been killed In Halo by my team mate because I picked up the Sniper
Exactly. "Snipers can be the most selfish players in _______" If I go sniper, I still make sure that I try to support team mates and ultimately try to complete the objective at hand.
yeah sure FaZKiLLaR :p Problem with BC2 sniper is they usually put motion sensor and camp on the very edge of the map. Guns in BC2 have high recoil therefore it's bit difficult to take them down.
I have been saying this for years. Sniping in video games only serve to break the gameplay. To over simply...most snipers are cowards. They enjoy shooting at people while the person/people they are shooting at are unable to shoot at them. In other words they don't want to stand face-to-face with another play and try to kill them before they get killed themselves. They want to kill others but they are afraid to risk their own ***. Lately, games have been nerfing the sniper rifles. Forcing them out of scope after ever shot. Forcing them the reload one bullet at a time. I think more should be done. There numbers should be limited. Often times in BF:BC sniper will make up half of a team.
how does your teammates killing you because you chose a particular weapons gives you an appearance of being selfish? It sounds like they are selfish because they can't play themselves, so while they are getting their poop pushed in by the enemy, they take it out on you. I love to snipe myself, and I try to give information, but people do want to kick you for no reason. I've also been killed once or twice myself, but I retaliate by sniping my ally then taxing his behind as long as I can. You kill me for no reason, I kill you for that reason.
I just thought selfish because they always want the sniper and if someone picks it up they get pissed and kill the person that does EDIT: I'm not trying to saying all snipers are Selfish just that selfish players are in all online games
Any game be it Killzone, COD, or BC2 where you can 'pick' if you start with a sniper you have this problem. In Halo, Uncharted and games where Snipers are a limited resource that players have to fight over its a much different story.
Its not that bad, if you lose big whoop, join a new game. There are big numbers of snipers though. btw *Defibrillator.
Ok, good someone corrected him on the defibrillator thing. If I didn't see anyone post this, I was, +bubbles!
i fell your pain Alpha, and being one of those snipers sometimes(not recently though) I cause your pain also. But yea when playing sniper especially in a team oriented game like BC2 it really can change the scope of the game if you work as a team, many persons just don't see that.
alpha sounds like you need a good team with some sniper support. Just know that when you throw out a sensor with one already activated by you, it cancels out the other one. I love the VSS but i think some snipers go crazy over it and forget their roles.
I agree with you. As much as I love the sniper class, I do so with to assist my team/squad as a purpose to win the game. Alternatively, I do hate it when it becomes most abused class in the game. Heck, I remember fighting a team that consists of 90% snipers just so they can frickin spam the Mortar strike. I take my best revenge by claiming as many DogTags from these f*ckers as possible. -End statement
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dude, i assure you i saw a really elite snipers in video games ,when i mean elite i mean it no missing shots aweosme bullet timing , their priority moving traget, if u have 2 of those in u team trust me u gonna dominate . the real problem in bfbc2 the recon class unbalance they gave him alot of extra nooby perks . the funny thing kz2 snipers has cloak ability , scanning targets ,one shoot kill but i never see any one complain about kz2 sniping ,u know why? because it was balanced well and required some skill to snipe
recon in bfbc2 has extra nooby perks? as in what, the sensor ball or c4/mortar strike...what are you talking about? im pretty good with the sniper, but i only use it in squad deathmatch...and usually when im playing alone in rush, cause i really cant trust my teammates...however when im partied with my friends, i know i can count on them and we time things right, they charge and i set a mortar strike on top right after for back up im fairly good with the recon class...and i love moving targets (my saying whenever i get one "headshot...in motion" lol, friends joke around with that now)
i always do my best to do a team effort as a sniper: spot the enemy, mortar the enemy vehicle / enemy hot spot , give cover to any team makes going in, throwing motion sensors i always get motion sensor detection points =D but i completly agree, its a very selfish class =/, and too many people choose it. honestly i only pick recon if no one in my squad is recon...i find that 2 snipers in the same squad = pointless UNLESS you are both very good and have a good spot...
is that what you believe, 1. it's a f***ing game, im pretty sure if this was real was you wouldn't run like an idiot on an open field. 2.the reason people love sniping is because of the feeling when you stalk somebody with you rifle and pick him off 3.I understand most sniper are selfish, but dont call sniper cowards because they frustrate you
I love spotting for my team when I play the Recon Class. I spot so much, I think I've had more Spot Assists than actually killing enemies myself. BTW, I also love doing the Suicide-C4-charge on enemy tanks when the team is short on engineers.
lol, love the suicide C4 charge, especially if the tank has been quite a pain in the ass.
i do that a lot more than half of my deaths are C4 on tanks that i blow up too soon
same...i try to get away before i set it, but when i see the tanks barrel slowly turning my direction, you know you dont have enough time to run away lol
suicide-sniper is great as it got me the game winning kills in a game where I blew up the bradley JUST as the crew jumped out to kill me. BOOOOM they all die as do I but getting the game winning kills was sooooo satisfying.
I'm a sniper and always play a part in my team. I spot solders with my spot scope and toss sensors in areas with heavy fire.
Lol, I guess a lot of you do not play Hardcore on BFBC2 because I see a lot of you mentioning that you like to spot assist but on hardcore mode, there is no spot assist. To me hardcore is more immersive and feels more like a real battle. But yes, in general sniper gamers are selfish in all games. Take Modern Warfare 2 for an example with the Domination mode. That mode is about capturing control points, much like Conquest in BC2 and the snipers and at the start of matches in MW2, the snipers all run out to their camping spots to snipe instead of trying to capture a few control points for the team.
i play hardcore every now and then, its a shame that it takes more than one shot sometimes from a sniper rifle to drop someone unless its a head shot, kinda defeats the purpose of hardcore imo. The other reason why i dont play it as much is its rare for me to find full games of it
haha funny believe anything because of a article.
Millions play the same game you play. Millions. Why be upset when a person just wants to play thier own way for a game they paid for? You can't expect 5 million people who aren't on your friends list or your clan to cooperate. Crying about it makes you as selfish as those random players. Millions. Think about that.
True, they pay their $60 for the game just like I did so they are entitled to do what they want with it. My point is, I take concern when it affects me. I like to play the game to win and when people play a team game as individuals, you arent going to win, thus ruining the experience for me. So therefore I am entitled to express my opinions about it.
make the jump to regular mode, on hardcore people abuse the lowered health and make a whole team of snipers. it isnt all that bad snipers shouldnt be the most of your worrys, with enemy everywhere you should be moving around unless you yourself is standing still (asking to get shot in the head by a sniper)
perhaps you should find some like minded friends to play with
of course not, but if a team in BF:BC2 doesn0't co-operate, that usually spells defeat, and if i see that a team of players in not co-operating, i leave the game because its a waste of time to play a TEAM BASED GAME if you DON'T HAVE A TEAM. get it? guess not... i respect peoples choices sure, but when it causes a whole team to loose because people just "like doing it their way" i find it hard to justify "we lost, but i don't care, i did things my way and thats all that matters" = selfish
That's my biggest beef with high damage model games that have been coming out lately (you know, like CoD, where two shots drop you). It makes campers out of almost everyone.
when i snipe i do as much fighting as the other classes. i dont sit far back of the map and think im helping. i mostly throw sensors and take out uav"s. there is no other class better then taking out a uav then the recon. best way to use the recon class without pissing off my friends is to get medium rang of the enemy and hide for them to spawn off you. snipe a couple of people and move closer for your team. staying far back does not help your squad get the crate. if you want to snipe from very far away do it when defending and dont join a squad.
yea...i love bfbc2 in that there is a good purpose for almost everything, and when you have a team that know what they are doing and even listen to commands, its a beautiful thing...lol i do the same thing...if there is a uav in the sky, i always look at what my squad is compromised of and if i see a recon user, i always tell him to take it out...if there is a chopper, i always as for tracers and look for engineers...tanks, same thing, or at the very least a recon with mortar, if not ill be the suicider with c4's (cause i dont like asking teammates to suicide) there are a lot of single bad things about bfbc2, but when things just click in a squad its one of the most enjoyable fps' out there to play
Nah, sorry I believe you're wrong. It's a multiplayer game that millions of people play. If you don't have a clan or a couple of friends to play with you can always grab the players who want to play to win from the same anything go's match you're playing. You can share you're frustration in-game & rally up some players but cmon guy you know it's a crap shoot when you're matching up with strangers. There's beauty in chaos. Those selfish snipers like it or not have a personality out there in the field. Nothing stops you from quiting if you're entire team of STRANGERS ranging in age, skill, just warming up, about to go to a party, drunk, having sex, is being arrested, has gone senile, or just plain selfish should result in your frustration as if somebody needs to regulate who buys the game & follows a schedule of dedicated gaming appointments. What gives you the right to generalize everyones situation? Especially, if there's a clan feature. You want to win. Some people out of the millions just want to have fun. What's so wrong about the guy who is 10 sniper kills away from his personal satisfaction? So he's not a team player at the moment. Guess what? You won't send him a game invite next round. Read the back of the box dude. There's a paper Manuel inside it to that list all the options & features you have. Quit being a nazi.
Millions? Over exaggerated much? PS3 only has around 25k players on average online everday. PC only has maybe 50-60k and 360 numbers are unknown. If you doubt my numbers, check out http://bfbcs.com/ which posts the pc and ps3 player count but the 360 one doesn't seem to be working.
Agreed. A couple is okay but it seems like everyone plays as sniper.
I started out recon class when I got into Bad Company 2 , totally unaware that it was sniper class and I would just run around with a silenced mp5. I like playing sniper but I also feel that being a well rounded player in all classes in rewarding. However I do agree with you on how snipers are selfish, perhaps it because "they be xbox live partying it up and being all hard-core, i know i do"...
I constantly spot assist, use motion sensors where my team needs them, and call out enemy activity. I give up more kill opportunities than I take to try to help the team. I don't just use the recon class, but it is my favorite. I like to scout enemy positions and drop mortars to destroy vehicles. I don't play selfishly, though. I find the people who screw around with UAVs who never spot assist or do anything to take objectives to be among the most selfish.
Not me. Everytime I play recon, it's SVU/Red Dot or 4X scope/Mortar strikes for me. I hang back just a little, pop heads and throw motion mines.
Feel like your in the game without actually being in the game.
With M1 Garand or M95 with Red Dot Scope (One shot one skill woot) or SVU with ACOG Site
Sorry but sniping IMO is the easy way out in any FPS.Just stay back and kill people from a distance. I only use the sniper class in any FPS to get the unlocks and extras and then play an assault class of some sort.I have had snipers ruin all the fun in playing MW2 and BFBC2. WOW you can kill me with one shot at a distance or in MW2 you can kill me with one shot because you have the stopping power perk... go snipers.
There can be selfish players but thats true of any class. I play all the classes in BFBC2, I've unlocked everything for each class but when I play as Recon don't expect me to play your way when I've found a good cover spot. Don't expect me to run and gun because thats what you are doing. Don't blame me because you ran around in the open spraying bullets like an idiot in assualt class and got your head blow off. Don't blame me that you've used up most of our teams tickets running blindly to set a charge when an area is full of defending players just because you wanted the glory and to finish top of the points table. Don't blame me for you getting killed because rather than hold and defend an area you ran around once again like a child spraying bullets trying to rack up a huge score. Don't forget your recon mates when they light up that tank for your RPG, don't forget your recon mate when he lights up an enemy you might not have seen that would have killed you. Don't forget your recon mate when he takes away the enemies cover with a well placed mortar strike. Don't forget your recon mate when he takes out that tank with his mortar strike and certainly don't forget your recon mate when he takes out that entrenched sniper that has taken you out again and again because like a bloody fool you keep running and running and running straight back to the same spot where he kills you again and again and again. But hey thanks hotshot fr wasting all our teams tickets while you bitch and moan about that sniper without actually marking him up to be taken out. BFBC2 is different to other FPS games. They gave the recon a useful role as part of the team to spot people, call in strikes etc. Its not just point and shoot like other sniper roles in other games it does take a little more skill. I play all the classes and enjoy them. I've completed them all on the 360 and currently doing the same on the PS3 and at the moment I am playing as a sniper so this article perhaps struck more of a chord with me. I play the classes but I paid for the game, don't tell me how to play it.
Well fu**ing said dude. +Bubble
I f*ing hate snipers in every game,and BBC2 isn't any different.The huge maps make me finding them out an even bigger issue.But if you have a sniper on your squad then it's okay,because they're almost always in a great location so spawning on them is a big help.
Most snipers in bad company 2 dont know how to do anything. I like the snipers you do something other then try not to get killed.
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People have become obsessed over their killstreaks and kdr more than actually having the team win. I've played demolition games in Modern Warfare 2 where my all of the attacking team camps to attempt saving their life.
hey all you COD noobs get out of our game if you can handle it!!if you run with my clan you wont last long sniping cause well put a knife in your neck(period)ive been playing BAAAAAAAAAAAAD COMPANY since the demo came out for oasis in the first one and if you snipe on attack you will never win cause you have to set the crates only camping a spot is good on defend.and like i said before COD is for noobs and casual,BAAAD COMPANY 2 is for the hardcore gamer!
All I can say is if you're not playing with friends or a REAL team then people can and should do as they please; it may be frustrating at times, but you should also consider that many players really are just VERY young kids that neither care or grasp the concept of an objective or teamwork so it's rather pointless to complain. My girlfriend's cousins for example. Just my thoughts
i don't know when trying to not get killed became such a bad thing, running hell for leather around the map is not actually a very sound strategy, not if you have a dislike for getting shot anyway. that they're not running around in the open so you can shoot them easily does not make them bad players. that said, the best way to make sure you don't get killed is to kill the other guy first, hiding out in a corner of the map is not going to accomplish that. a good sniper knows, you don't stay in the same spot all the time, you take your shot and move on, take your shot and move on, the idea is they never know where you are but you know where they are.
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