A brief but insightful look into video game design and the recycled ideas that plague our most beloved titles.
Care to elaborate?
I will elaborate for him. It is not the videogames that are getting stale, it is the gamers views on games that getting stale. Because of many personnal factors. Age, job, wife, life, you name it. what I am trying to say is that it is all about perspective. Many game concepts are getting old, but it`s the user that will feel it is getting old if they have played many games like it in the past. A newer gamer will think it is fresh, that is until a self proclaimed experienced gamer reminds him how that has been done before, blah blah blah.. @below thanks cpt obvious, I will remember that next time I share my opinion. Speaking of which, and to clarify, my opinion is that games are not getting stale, however many users feel they are getting stale, because gaming as a whole is getting stale for them.
All opinions are always about perspective, and they're asking us for our opinion.
What Montrealien is saying is if you feel games are stale, you should find another hobby, or take a break. Thats what i am doing now, and writing my own game script with my idea's to pass time.
montrealien is right tho everything thats been said is new and groundbreaking have been thousands of times etc. etc. new gamers do act like its the coming of christ. its more of the same. i jus want devs to spread over other genres except everbody focusing on shooters i dont even remember the last adventure game that came out or even an over the top action game like godhand. the real question should be when the publishers balls gonna drop and let these dev do something beside going with the trend and make one.
I believe that the more experienced one is the more picky one becomes. Ultimately quality is quality but a higher value on new experiences that also is of a high quality becomes more and more important. Sometimes taking a break and just keeping an eye out for games that peak an interest is needed. I've had years here and there where my interest in games have waned. I do not think it's unusual. I agree Devs need to grow a pair. The cost of games have risen causing Devs to play it safe with the popular shooter genre but this is causing less gems to be found. Sooner or later fatigue will set in and devs may go back to bringing more variety. I've been a little disappointed this gen primarily due to lack of variety and secondly uniqueness. Hopefully the second half brings more high quality Japanese titles and more games that have a wow factor with little to no shooting. More gems please.
Not for me, I'm still enjoying them.
I hear ya man, as long as you still like gaming, that is all that matters. If you are starting to look at games as rehashed game concepts and boring and offering nothing new to you, it is not the games, it is you. @below That is not at all what I said, and no, videogames do no equal some one robbing you. Come on man. And no, never force yourself to do something you might have grown out of, move on.
So what you're saying is that we must force ourselves to enjoy them no matter what? It's like saying "if you start looking at robbery as someone taking your stuff and running away with it, the problem is not the robber, it's you"
They are getting a little stale IMO.
What I really think hurts games today is the cost to make them.
Yes, they are. Right now it's bald military dudes or anime archetypes everywhere. Games need to become better and more mature, because the audience has aged. I want games to be as good as movies, nothing less. There is no excuse. That doesn't mean arcade games can't exist anymore, just as long as they don't take themselves seriously, it'll be fine. (There are good games out there, just speaking in general)
That's very glib. There are plenty of interesting concepts in gaming, but for some reason people look to massive franchises like CoD and Mario to embrace them. Play. Other. Games.
As much as I love videogames, I have to say yes! Have you noticed that there are more shooters on the market than any other genre? We are getting games with better graphics and sound with some twist to gameplay and story telling, but most of the stuff is so predictable. Maybe i've just watched too many movies and played too many games, but I rarely get excited like I used to for games.
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Oh how i do, but it's not just the games. It's the fact that the audience is wider, and the biggest part of that audience are people who don't mind having the same thing. The majority buy the 'shit' title, so the developers make the same shit title with a brand new lick of paint and say it's brand new. BUUUUULL Shizer. Good games btw. Henshin a go-go.
You have a bad taste in games and they get worse as time goes on. Maybe you should just start buying good PS3 games. Ratchet and Clank Future: Crank in time Demon's Souls (Get it, No Exceptions) Valkyria Chronicles Folklore GoW3 Infamous Blazblue (Lol Soul Caliber) 3D Dot Game Heroes Mod Nation Racers Bayonetta Disgeae 3 MGS4 (How the sh!t do you not have this yet?) Armored Core Four Answer Also, you missed out on TONNES of good PS2 games. Ico GoW1 GoW2 God Hand Jak & Daxter Series Ratchet & Clank Series We Love Katamari Guilty Gear (Lol Soul Caliber) MGS3 Syphon Filter Dark Cloud Series You should also try other consoles/PC gaming so you can play games like 360: Lost Odyssey Deathsmiles Tales Of Vesperia Wii: Metroid Mario Galaxy SSBB Monster Hunter Tri Zelda No More Heroes 2 Tales Of Symphonia Dawn Of The New World Fire Emblem PC Gaming: Mass Effect 1/2 Dragon Age Buldur's Gate Series Crysis Team Fortress 1/2 Portal 1 Half Life Counter Strike The Witcher L4D2 Cave Story Risen Oblivion (Played how it needs to be played, with mods) STALKER
that cinematic feel
Well, there are too many FPS.
I think Wii, Move and Natal are needed for this reason alone.
FPSs... do we need to say more?
Nope. Maybe it's because I became a hardcore gamer this gen. Prior to this gen, I was a casual gamer and missed last gen entirely, so the shooter genre is still fairly new to me.
Not when you have a PS3. Out of all the exclusives this year, I have yet to play a repeat genre. 5 months, and I have played a shooter, a brawler, a hack n slash/ action, an interactive movie, a cart racer, and a throwback. No staleness here, you`re gonna have to ask somebody else.
Totally agree with you, I can sit with exclusives only and really be impressed with the diversity.
You analyzed the two most over-used titles in history: Mario and Call of Duty. There are dozens of innovative games out there, whether or not this particular writer has discovered them is another story. While I do not play it anymore, Eve Online is a prime example of originality and story-based gaming. Sadly, Mount & Blade: Warband is one of a very limited number of hack/slash FPS / TPS genre games. While many of the ideas are recycled, they are being recycled into much more grandiose, vibrant adventures. Mass Effect 1&2 may be a dated theme, but when have you ever felt like it was an action movie? Like you were REALLY involved?
Mount and Blade is a fricken gem that ive plunderd many hours from.
Sometimes I think this too, but playing games like Uncharted 2, Mass Effect 2, and Mario Galaxy 2 give me hope that the industry can be creative. Then you look at indie games like World of Goo or Castle Crashers, and you can see that in every corner of gaming's sub-genres you can find something wildly fun.
Hm an interesting question. Are they becoming stale? I don't think so, I think games are suffering from being on the main stream market. Video games have taken off in the public eye unfortunatly that leads to the more buisness mindset of companies. New Ideas now are being shelved in favor of "cash crop" franchices. There are new and great ideas out there but they are now being forced to swim upstream against current market buzz, blockbuster franchises, and publisher funding. It's a normal growing pain that many other forms of media have gone through.
without reading the article.....i can sum up and relate this to everything else in the world......life is getting stale huh.....thats why i got myself fired to motivate me to go back to school...... anyways......these articles are getting stale actually......since this comes every month......sequels....whatever .......with casual audiences and hardcore.....you have big audiences with different goals to hit.....and big penalties for failing....so its really a conssumer issue....we like sequels and seeing characeters we spent hours with on another journey.....also with recuring characters you are allowed to focus more on the main story since the back story is usually introduced....... if people call this stale....it applys to everything.....art.....tv..... movies.....books.....clothes... ..all cut and paste from something........just live with it....or if thats stale....you can die....
yes....look at the excellent stuff that came out 20 years ago compared to the same crap you see today every year. "Not when you have a PS3" lol what are you smoking? sony hasn't been doing anything since 3 years after the ps2 came out.
The game industry is more like the movie industry than it has ever been before budgets, mass appeal and sales end up dictating what gets made more than anything else. You have to be careful of companies like activision that will become seriously lopsided in making games for shareholders, thats where the gaming industry could run into real problems because casuals come and go the hardcore are always here if u keep flooding the market you dilute it and kill talent and creativity.
Gaming in general? I doubt it. Shooting games in general? Absolutely.
gamers laser narrow purchasing habits are what's making them stale. companies produce what sells so by god they're gonna make fps'. the truly creative games are getting fewer and further between. would it really kill you to skip another goddamn fps this fall and give something like enslaved a try?
It's cus all the mainstreem titles get marketed as the 'one and only'. The 'best there is', when it's the furthest thing from the truth. The mainstream gamer majority just want to look at that Top 10 chart in their game-store. Few games which can be considered 'good' most just considered mainstream, generic, sequals that are not at all innovative. So in turn, the shit games are bought, so more shit games are made. I call it the 'Shit circle of game-life'.
I feel as if i've seen this exact same article appear every 6 months for the past 5 years.
Games,stale? some,sure.TV,stale?.......incr easingly so....in fact,I can hardly watch tv anymore. Movies,stale? Transformers3,Avatar,Iron Man2?.... Jonah hex lol..... Music stale?......hmmm,god is music bland lately, So,I hope games continue to innovate and inspire.
There is less and less creative games and more fps that i can shake a stick at. Gaming is getting stale and there is an uphill battle between money making games and original titles.............
Spot on and this is exactly what I was trying to encompass in the article. Thanks.
Personally, I'm enjoying the ps3/360/wii generation less then the ps2/xbox/cube generation.
I feel the same way, personally. That generation was still benefiting from all the innovation and freshness from the PS One era, so the variety in games was still there. Also, the shooter genre has not taken over, at that, point yet. I'm still finding fun titles like LBP, Mario, some racing titles like Motorstorm, and Sonic, but overall, this generation has been quite meh for me. It really lacks that spark in creativity and freshness that was so common during the 90's. The closest I can find to that these days is on the PS Store and Wiiware channels, and that's a real shame. I really hope the industry learns to take risks again, and stop playing it safe with the same tried, and tested franchises. Some of these games can be fun, but too much of anything is a bad thing.
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