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Cliffy B: The Children In Heavy Rain Are “The Most Hideous. Ever.”

Cliff Bleszinski has said time and time again that he really loves Heavy Rain. The developer has gone as far as to say “[Heavy Rain] has created a new genre.” But there are certain elements in the game he thinks could have been down better.

Especially the way the children in the game act, according to Bleszinski, David Cage and his Quantic Dream team didn’t do enough to avoid the “uncanny valley”.

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Forbidden_Darkness2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

I would love to hear a better explanation to why their hideous and then prove he could do better...

Edit: Is it possible to get bubbles back?

Otheros002737d ago

I would also like an explanation from him.

Blaze9292737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

I think it's because he played the American version with the American voice overs. I think we can admit, if you played with that setting, that they were indeed just awful to listen to. Shaun wasn't too bad though...but Jason - that was just terrible.

EDIT:

down to 1 bubble? wtf? ulgh

-Alpha2737d ago Show
karl2737d ago

bubble for u man!!

i dont usually say negative things.. yet here i am with only 2 bubbles T_T

Inside_out2737d ago Show
coolcole932737d ago

Keep postin' whatcha postin' man. I bubble you up every time.

TOO PAWNED2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

I know i might sound like some perv, but personally i thought kids were good looking, but then again i am in minority since i also consider Madison to be hot.
Cliffy probably prefered fat ass kids with attitude
What bothers me the most if that he says he is only couple of hours in...

HolyOrangeCows2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

His stoic rock creatures are a marvel to behold, though.

@Cez
You have one bubble because all you do is write a small novel about PSTREE FANBOIS in every article.

DaTruth2737d ago Show
silvacrest2737d ago

you said your piece so articulately

I, on the other hand am going to be blunt, we should have a poll on this website so we can vote for a better bubble system because this one blows more then the previous one

what really gets me down is when you have a genuine, non fanboy debate with people only to realise your limited to 3 comments per article

on topic, i had the european version of heavy rain and apparently its slightly different when it comes to the kids so i didn't notice the "hideous" children

Lykon2737d ago

I really did not like heavy rain but i thought the character models were pretty good.....

bubbles for everyone on this thread. x

villevalorox2737d ago

I love heavy rain a crap lot, but I do agree with you, jasons voice was just too off. I mean it was not bad and did not ruin the experience for me, but they should have hired americans to do the us voices. It almost sounded like a robot talking at times.

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Christopher2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

1. I actually enjoy entering the 'uncanny valley' he talks about, as it shows an attempt to relate it more to a movie than just to keep it what you normally see in video games.

Note that what he's saying is that the kids act too real that they're ugly, repulsive due to their realism.

2. I don't know how the bubble system works now, personally. I have 4 right now and haven't seen anyone with more, but people like Alpha I +bub often and they're still stuck at just 3.

coolcole932737d ago Show
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blitz06232736d ago

at least HR children aren't as hideous as Gears of War's Cole

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TheHater2737d ago

Oh and I also would love to see Cliffy attempted to create anything remotely similar to Heavy Rain. Just look at this company games. All the characters look like they eat and drink steroid for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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wages of sin2737d ago

At least use spellcheck.

The word is spelled ugly.

dreamcast2737d ago

"If your going to talk trash
At least use spellcheck. "

you're*

knight6262736d ago

Cliffy B is like a monkey he wants attention and likes to bash on the PS3 Exclusives and say his games are better...IMO Gears sucks played it and i was disappointed just like i was with all the halo games except the first halo

RageAgainstTheMShine2736d ago

Cliffy B just stated one of Sony's biggest problems!
The truth hurts but I have to agree with Cliffy B.

Sony's Western developers are phenomenal and on a league on its own when it comes to everything game about game development. They floor most experienced Japanese developers in gameplay mechanics, game engine,effects, vision, technical aspects etc. anything you can think of except for one thing...... CHARACTER DESIGNS!

Compared to Japanese art production, art direction and design Western character design are UGLY and HIDEOUS!

I hope Sony will leave character design of its IPs to the Japanese. Man, that EyePet is so SCARY. Chloe of Uncharted 2 is UGLY. Elena & Aphrodite of God of War III are some exceptions.

Old Snake is one of the best character designs ever.

Sony needs some collaboration between its Eastern and Western talents.

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madpuppy2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

"uncanny valley" when he mentioned why the children looked hideous. I cannot believe that nobody here has never heard of the "uncanny valley"
here is a link that provides and explanation to what it is:

http://www.arclight.net/~pd...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"The uncanny valley is a hypothesis regarding the field of robotics.[1] The theory holds that when robots and other facsimiles of humans look and act almost like actual humans, it causes a response of revulsion among human observers. The "valley" in question is a dip in a proposed graph of the positivity of human reaction as a function of a robot's lifelikeness."

Even though it mentions robotics it also applies to animated characters, that is why there are more movies by Dreamworks and Pixar that have character models that don't look perfectly human. to avoid the "uncanny valley"

danielle0072736d ago

Smart cookie. But, I don't actually find this an issue with Heavy Rain. Maybe it's because they looked pretty human.. but the whole story is completely designed to make you empathetic to them and understand what they feel. It never went into the valley of creepyness for me.

Like, I admit the movie Polar Express completely creeped me out and I thought everyone on that train was disgusting, and slightly terrifying. No thanks. But, Heavy Rain is different. I didn't find the children revolting. Jason was a tossaway character, but I feel that Shaun, while annoying in Ethan's house.. in the park, i found him adorable.

FACTUAL evidence2737d ago

When he says hideous what does he mean? Hopefully he meant by the american voice overs.

Greywulf2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

With all the flat 1 chunk armor/body nonsense in every single unreal engine. I read the article, it was an interview. I knew it would be on N4g in no time, he couldn't just give a compliment to Heavy Rain without insulting it, so pathetic.

I mean the game isn't out there trying to be the end all to begin with as far as a visuals go. Even then, it pulls off a better job with human beings than Gear's Super-Man freaks of nature.

Its just sad, he could have just left it at "Well Im enjoying heavy rain pretty well, they did a good job"

the man couldn't put a lifelike anything in his game to save his life.

SOAD2737d ago

You should see Unreal Engine 3 on PC.

Secondly, Cliffy was probably referring to the "Uncanny Valley" effect. It's almost a compliment to the game because the effect is characterized by the eerie feeling created by something that looks really realistic but is off just a tad.

The children in the game must have looked great but there was something off about the character models that can make people uncomfortable.

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NeoBasch2737d ago

They're pretty annoying though. I wanted to punch the kid square in the face. Regardless, I'm tired of the "uncanny valley" comments. There is no such thing as "uncanny valley." Get over it. It's just a term people coined trying to downplay their insecurities over life like animations. Besides, it's not as if they didn't have any aid whatsoever. Animations were recorded via motion capture. One day, that stiffness between animations will go away. Quantic Dream has done a damn good job thus far. They'll only improve from here.

ChickeyCantor2737d ago

The corruption is kinda lovely, the new system doesn't work and when one asks if he can have his bubbles back people just hit the +.

Whats the point in that?

Also cliff has a weird name.

Remmulak2736d ago

What a stupid comment about the kids being hideous. I played the game and didn't think anything about the kids being hideous. What the heck did the kids do that was hideous.

I agree, lets see him do better.

Does this guy have kids? Not saying this is mandatory to be able to comment, but curious.

RageAgainstTheMShine2736d ago

The truth hurts but I have to agree with Cliffy B.

Sony's Western developers are phenomenal and on a league on its own when it comes to everything game about game development. They floor most experienced Japanese developers in gameplay mechanics, game engine,effects, vision, technical aspects etc. anything you can think of except for one thing...... CHARACTER DESIGNS!

Compared to Japanese art production, art direction and design Western character design are UGLY and HIDEOUS!

I hope Sony will leave character design of its IPs to the Japanese. Man, that EyePet is so SCARY. Chloe of Uncharted 2 is UGLY. Elena & Aphrodite of God of War III are some exceptions.

Old Snake is one of the best character designs ever.

Sony needs some collaboration between its Eastern and Western talents.

rkimoto2736d ago

Mmmm, I think that if for whatever reason somebody is not happy on how the game was acted/scripted, it's the game developers fault, not the company that publishes it.

Specially if that developer is a 3rd Party developer.

Lykon2735d ago

If ever i see a comment hidden for any reason i always click show out of curiosity , probably before i even read the non hidden comments.

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phantomexe2737d ago

i loved heavy rain but hes right there was something strange about the way the kids were in the game.

SOAD2737d ago

"Uncanny Valley" dude. Look it up.

Your response sounds more like a butthurt challenge than anything.

playstation_clan2736d ago

its just a game, just enjoy it and stop arguing about every little thing

qface642737d ago

why is everyone here taking it as if he insulted the game?
geez he said the kids in the game were hideous how is this a big deal?

TheHater2737d ago

just look at the character models in his games.

UP2737d ago

Look at the woman in gears 3.

TheHater2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Yeah, I seen her. Her character model look like other female character models from EPIC games. She look like she can fit in Unreal and Unreal Tournament.

qface642737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

that's what devs seem to do now a days though regardless of what they themselves have done

if he hasn't done better or he has done worse then why should anyone even care about what he has to say

Hellsvacancy2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

He'd b bit a sicko if he said the opposite