After being asked about his views on the importance of simplicity of control in a console context, he stated that while the Wii is a good starting point to encourage the all-important focus on better gaming interfaces, it isn't necessarily the best.
More like steal BACK gamers that went to the Wii for some instant-fun, if anything.
Consumers aren't not stupid, they realize that the Wii is, hum... "Special" so they looking forward for a best video games experience...
"Consumers aren't not stupid"
LOL! You're putting that theory to the test Mr. Grammar.
with both the first two posters, the wii seems like a fad, it will be tough to make a lot of great games for it
Wii is more powerful than PS2. Were there great games for PS2?
-the GTA series
-God of War 1&2
-Devil May Cry 3
-Metal Gear Solid 3
-Shadow of the Collossus
-Final Fantasy X
-Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
and many more....
I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say.
As for anyone disagreeing with me, although the Wii lets families play together and gets mom, dad, son, daughter, grandpa, grandma, and whoever else into the Wii game at the moment, they're not rushing out to buy the newest title, or peripheral. It's still the same person that bought the Wii that will likely purchase any new software, as well as hardware.
Maybe once they get tired of playing the 40 mini-games in Brain Age, or WiiFit, they'll opt out to a full game, whether that be SMG, SSBB, some next Zelda game, or something on another console/handheld.
If you still don't understand, what I'm saying is that the market really isn't being expanded as much as we're told to believe. People ARE playing games, but they're not buying games; they're playing whatever's around the house. It's still more or less the core group that previously owned consoles that's buying these things, and, evidentally, getting tired of them in a few weeks to months.
I'm no analyst, but just like everyone else, I observe things, and am capable of finding a pattern, as well as voicing my opinion.
Flame at your own discretion.
i'm talking controlls, after a while people wont want to use the wiimote for standard games, and out of all those games mrk01 mentioned, try imagine playing those with a wii controller over a standard ps3 or 360 controller. it just doesnt work
Hmm. Yet another prognosticator I happen to agree with. I'm in the wrong business.
Actually The Wii isn't for the gamers, his best games are all remakes or multi-platform
Resident Evil 4
Zelda (on Gamecube)
End it gets worse for Christmas, even both Ps/360 will have some amazing exclusive and multi games like Assassin's Creed, Halo, Bioshock, Heavenly Sword... etc... etc..
I think one think you forgot to mention is ORIGINAL games.
Apparently, Ninty thinks sticking new controls for an old game make sit original.
It's really easy to imagine people that have purchased a Wii one year and after 2 years, selling it on Ebay wanting to move to the next level; ie: PS3 or Xbox 360.
-Face it people will get tired of minigames and Gamcube ports in 2 years.
-- "Wii = Gamer ?
Actually The Wii isn't for the gamers, his best games are all remakes or multi-platform " --
I think "he" made this one game, called Mario or something that might be for gamers...[e/sarcasm] but yeah on a whole.. I just don't see people like "us" or tradidtionals running to the system. I think the Wii will continue strong until people simply grow bored with it, which doesn't seem particularly hard to do.
It's perfect for people like *ItsDubC* who admittedly doesn't play a lot of games or thinks that there's actually more to life than games. =P
*Old People that are bored
*Ninty Hardcore Lovers
*Dudes appeasing their girlfriends
*People new to gaming altogether
Not a bad list, but that's all there is to it folks.
Wii games are about mini Games!!!! or ports and lots of it. well enough said.
Back to playing on my PS3 and my PC lol!!!
A huge chunk of Wii gamers are not going to buy a traditional console thats why Wii is selling because it has taped into a market much bigger than defacto gamers market(I would say the bulk of Wii consumers will not buy a $400 console). lol
It just too bad that Nintendo forget the real gamer. They just too focused on casual gaming and how my grandma can have a good brain...
The "real" game for Christmas are just first party, SSBB, Mario Galaxy and Metroid...
Say what you want, good or bad about the Wii. I really dont see any reason for it to slow down nor be a a gateway to pick up an Xbox360 or PS3 controller. Even if it does, so what? now you have a household with a Wii and a 360 or PS3 or if your lucky ALL 3.
All Nintendo did was provide an additional way as to how people play video games. They showed us that; going gusto on graphichs isnt always the most important thing(for some). Its fun!!!(for the rest of us) this is where the system shines.
Its common knowledge to know that this console ISNT designed for the hardcore gamer. Its desined to appeal to Ex-Gamers who have grown up & have grown bored of just pressing buttons, People who work and are perfectly fine with playing an hour or so and powering down the damn thing, Ninty Loyalist, kids and adults of all ages who are more interesting in just laughing and having a good time.
I could go on but Dave Perry, if what you said were true then I dont think the Wii would be doing numbers anything close to Xbox360 given its 2 year headstart and its bottomless pockets for marketing.
I like All 3 big guns but it doesnt take a genius to see that Nintendo's market is NOW prettty much anyone outside of the hardcore market and as much as some of us hate to hear it- The hardcore gamer is the minority for Nintendo. Atleast there is now something for everybody and thats GOOD NEWS for the Gaming Industry.
Alas, IMO Nintendo had no choice but to reinvent itself. Sure they could have went toe to toe with MS and Sony and built a Graphic Horse but given the circumstances of the N64 and GC being dubbed the kiddy systems of the last 2 generations would graphic really matter. Fact is the Hardcore turned their backs on Nintendo. So how smart would it be be to place the future of your company solely in the hands of the people who almost caused you to sink?
We dont need 3 systems that do the same damn thing people. Hats off to Nintendo for making gaming an outlet for more than just the Hardcore AND TAPPIN THE SHIYAT out of untapped market; Normal People. Sorry guys, Shoot me in a Gears Of War online match or something =)
I actually agree with nearly all of what you stated. However, that same "fickle" list of traditionals that left Ninty in the first place, could turn out to be the same "normal" people now that are generally new to gaming and may not continue with what's "hot".
You know, because people like us are going to game, game, game, game, game until it hurts..whereas the Ninty (current) gamer isn't of that mindset. Hell, I don't even think there's enough compelling games to do that on the system now, but I really don't know. I'm being serious.
In relation to the article though, I do think the author is right in that there will be a percentage (large or small) that eventually migrate back to the powerhouses. We live in an ADHD, cutting edge-up-to-the-minute, mine is bigger than yours world and pepole will tire of not having it "all", so I believe it's just natural. Call me crazy but that's what I think.
I don't know whats going to happen this generation but for now the Wii seems to be unstoppable! Also I like the bigger picture Nintendo mentioned in there closing speech at E3!
You must remember my friends that there was gaming long before Playstation and XBOX.
Nintendo pretty much kickstarted the video game industry back in the Atari days. The industry may have died without them.
History is just repeating itself.
Micro and Sony should take notes. Nintendo is massively expanding the market. Something Micro and Sony want to do, but just aren't doing as well.
I don't see how people can hate on a true video games icon such as Nintendo.
Nintendo is too family based, they've almost completly ditched the real gamers that made the company famous back in the day.
Wiifit isn't going to win back [email protected]
yeah history is repeating itself, the Wii will go the same path as the Gamecube...
I myself bought a Wii, then a few months later needed a more hardcore fix so I bought myself a PS3.
PSWII or WII60 is how this gen will be remembered.
That Nintendo will never win back the Hardcore.
Indeed. He is pretty right.
When you're through Zelda and Wii Sports, then you're waiting too much on Metroprime 3 and some new Mario games. You don't want WiiFit. That's for your fat mom ;-)
I really think with Halo 3 coming, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell: Conviction but for most yeah still Halo 3...
Will get many dissapointed Wii owners to step in. Just to complete their experience en spend about the same as the PS3 total and have twice the fun.
The coming months will be insane. When a price drop arrives just after Halo 3 en just before Christmas, sales will explode for the 360. Just explode
i hope so .. don´t wanna buy a new xbox 720 in 2 years.
It is confusing people. People like the simple setup of the Wii...there is one sku.
The Xbox 360 has or will have 4 skus...one of them does not have a harddrive and we all know you need a harddrive on the Xbox360 how are you going to download the game demos?...so you really gots to spend $399 (premium) to $479 (Elite).....and the 20 GB harddrive on the xbox 360 premium only has like 9 gigs of free space!
If you were going to buy a new xbox 360...you would buy the Elite..its the best deal on the Xbox 360 SKUS....but then you could get a PS3 for $20 more...hmmm...if the PS3s 60 Gb 2.5 inch SATA drive is too small, all you have to do is go buy a bigger one say a 120gb one for $70 on the internet, even 160gb drives are less than $100 these days. But at least the Xbox 360 Elite comes with a 120Gb drive.
Remember the Wii is a party machine...meaning you really have to buy extra controllers. It comes with one..but you really need at least 1 more wiimote and numchuck...which adds $60 to to price...so the wii is already over $300 after you buy the extra controller and numchuck...no if you max it out and get 3 extra controllers you have spent and additional $180 (remember you need wiimote and numchuck) So you will spend $250 + $180 = $430...now the wii is starting to get more expensive...
You really only need one extra controller on the PS3 and Xbox 360..Remember the core Xbox 360 core model does not have a wireless controller, so you need to get one of those for an additional $40.
The Core is really not a good deal if you break it down.
And don't forget the PS3 can play all bluray movies out the box..
It's amazing how some of you keeping hating on Nintendo. Is Nintendo the only company in town that makes games for the Wii? Come on! Nintendo created the hardware, put out some games and created a huge user base. Shouldn't you be hating on the 3rd parties out there that aren't creating these button mashing games for the "hardcore" gamer? Oh wait I guess you want Nintendo to come out with these "hardcore" games so we can all sit around and complain about how Nintendo doesn't support their 3rd party developers and that 1st party games are all the Wii has.
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