Rockstar overdoes with the open world element in an otherwise amazing game.
RDR is simply the best open world game for consoles right now. Rockstar has a lot of work ahead of them if they want to top RDR.
you die if you fall into a few feet of water....it automatically is NOT the best open-world game purely because of that (let alone other terrible design choices).
Yeah like T9X69 said, you really don't have much of a reason to swim. I'm not saying it's right but it's not like Vice City where a wrong turn can send you straight into the water ending the game. I'm roughly halfway through and only one mission has been near water. So it isn't exactly a negative. It is a very very good game though. So far not quite as good as GTA IV (see bio) but it's still really good.
You're right about the annoying inability to swim, though it doesn't ruin the awesome experience. @T9X69 and ReservoirDog316 - You're right, there isn't much reason to swim, but I would've still liked the option. I mean, there's not much reason to hogtie some poor NPC, drop him/her onto the train tracks and watch for the train to pass, but it's still fun to do.
It's pretty realistic. Everyone knows cowboys cannot swim. /s.
Can one swim with those boots and spurs on?
There's one lake and a giant river that separates Mexico from the USA which is pretty small in width and goes absolutely know where. Why in the hell would you want to swim? The rest of the water in the game is chest high and can be walked through. You have miles of deserts, plains, and forest to explore and your complaining about swimming? Jesus, what's next? People mad you cant fly planes in RDR? Give me a break, gamers these days bitch about everything.
I think it would be fun to swim down the rapids near Tall Trees. Or, maybe escape a Bounty Hunter by taking a leap of faith off a cliff into the river, Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid style. That's the point of open world games - you're free to do what you want. Don't get me wrong, I friggin love this game, on my second play through now, but it would have been nice to have the option to swim.
i wont say is the best open world game i think the best is still san andreas but RDR is getting close to GTA:SA
yea i really loved that san andreas had proper city areas and miles of country road...the variety and feel is still hard to beat.
God this article is awful. Is this guy 16? He writes like it. You'd think this guy never played an open world game before. Hey, M. J. Elepano of PSBeyond.com pick up a Grand Theft Auto sometime, there have to be about a dozen now. And who is the audience? People who have never played games? God this article is so boring it makes Red Dead Redemption look bad. I had more fun spell checking this post than I did reading that pile of shite, holy crap! Its so freaking bad. I'm gonna go play Red Dead.
Okay well remember son; never ever start a sentence with 'and' after a full stop. Also before you say that is not a spelling error; 'gonna' is your major downfall. Stop criticizing how others write, if you don't like it don't read it and go get a job writing articles. Idiots on N4G thinking this is a spelling bee.
Your idea of grammar has very little to do with spelling. AND I wasn't criticizing his spelling but rather how the article was written and who it was possibly intended for given how it was written. AND speaking in a casual dialect isn't necessarily open to your criticism. I'm GONNA go play Red Dead again, you go read Strunk & White or the Chicago Manual or wherever you read how English is supposed to be said/written. Dumb.
Ask yourself this, who cares? Not meaning to be rude or anything but really, does it actually matter enough to go off like you did? It's a serious question.
I been gaming for over 20 years, and I've never felt more exhausted than this generation, but it isn't because I'm tired of the games, it's because of all this other crap. If it isn't fanboy wars or analysts who don't know when to shut up, it's "journalism" going out of it's way to pick out the bad rather than the good, just for the sake of doing it. The internet is the best and worst invention in the last 50 years.
I been gaming for over 20 years, and I've never felt more exhausted than this generation, but it isn't because I'm tired of the games, it's because of all this other crap. If it isn't fanboy wars or analysts who don't know when to shut up, it's "journalism" going out of it's way to pick out the bad rather than the good, or even over-analyze just for the sake of doing it. The internet is the best and worst invention in the last 50 years.
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I'm blown away by Red dead redemption. It's the most atmospheric environment I've dicked around in since Fallout 3 and I haven't played a game that moved and controlled so smoothly since Uncharted 2. 'Having said that' I have to admit the water thing has pissed me off too. I like how they're using water to separate the parts of the world but they could just as easily have made it so Marston flips out and can't swim any more in deep water. There have been times that I've fallen down a hill and found there's no way up but to jump in the water and die. It's quickly forgiven when I get playing again though. The biggest problem I have with it is that after starting with some brilliant characters and a much more genuine less ironic hipstery tone than GTA they've already been replaced by GTA's brand of wacky zany characters our hero insults and makes wisecracks about then obeys anyway. I was loving the story when it was classic Western, hanging out with the Macfarlanes and the sheriff, showing John to be a decent respectful man really engaging with other human beings. Once I finished up my business with them the next batch of characters just dragged me right out of any emotional involvement with the story. I'm just at the point that an M has first appeared on my map now and hoping that the next batch of characters will put the story back on track. I loved GTA and have always loved theRockstar writing style but I'm getting a bit sick of being the eye rolling wisecracking errand boy for wacky zany characters created solely to satirise an aspect of modern life.
I agree with what you say about emotional involvement in the story- I loved the first act but after entering Mexico I didn't really care as much. And I think the climax in New Austin far outweighs that in Nuevo Paraiso. I have about a dozen missions yet to finish so I hope that act three wraps the game up nicely. Act two just seems like an aside in which the player being formerly constrained geographically and in terms of combat is given a larger world in which to play. The introduction to that new world is noticeably lacking in comparison to the beginning of the game but then again, maybe it is assumed that by this point you will take the time (or not) to explore the world and experience as much as you wish.
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