Not enough 3D TVs will be in the market for Killzone release, says analyst
Has Pachter been right about anything so far...?
Introducing game changing 3D elements in games have nothing to do with how big the 3D market is for games. We know PC gamers have been able to play games in 3D for awhile now, but very few of those games were built with 3D in mind. Killzone 3 has the chance to utilize 3D in such a way that would change what we thought was possible. But I hope Kojima utilizes Move + 3D + Headtracking in his next PS3 game. He's gonna tear down the Fourth Wall once and for all!! >:D
"I don't think that 3D support is a huge game changer, as I don't think that a significant portion of the population will have 3D displays any time soon," Pachter said. CVG always has flamebait titles to get more hits. His full comment makes alot of sense and I actually agree. I literally don't know anyone with a 3dtv IRL. Regardless if you agree with everything Pachter says, he is right sometimes, and he is wrong sometimes. This is what an analyst does/is. They try to predict the market. This is no easy task, especially in the gaming market which is highly volatile in nature.
I know nothing much about a 3DTV, so I'm wondering if its possible to switch the 3D back into normal mode? Because if it can't, then it just ain't going to appeal me, or to others anytime soon. Whats going to happen to toddlers who wishes to watch TV? We couldn't just force them to wear that cyclops sh!t! And certainly not my dog, who catch his favorite animal planet everyday to wear that f*ck.. Heck if they don't wear them, soon in future they will be seeing multiplications!
All 3d Tv have normal modes. Shovelface Pachter is a retard and he never gets anything right. What he is predicting is common sense. 3d tv is a relatively new thing and sure not many will have it. What he can't seem to understand, is that Killzone 3 is not supposed to be a game changer. He has got it backwards. He thinks that they are doing 3d to to try to sell more Killzone 3 when in reality they are making Killzone 3 and many other games in 3d to push the 3d platform. I could do his job in my sleep.
So tired of hearing your comments. Just retire already.
This guy aint here for making "right" predictions. He is in it for the publicity! He is selling his image and look what that got him: -Free games from publishers -Own GT show -Publicity for his company (wedbush) -Interviews from various sites -etc... About the article: Well, 3 years ago bluray wasnt needed for games! Look how that turned out!!! :P
If I remember correctly, Pachter said Insomniac was nuts for not going multi-platform (therefore implying that they should and will go that route). http://n4g.com/news/523173/... And lo and behold, they did, even revealing that they'd had their eye on other platforms for years. Just saying that sometimes, even his opinions turn out to be correct. @Shazly: Bubbles up for sharing your opinion without fear, buddy. Edit: Found the full quote. Reads more like an opinion of his than a prediction. "A publisher would be foolish to sign an exclusive deal. A developer could do it. I've told the Insomniac guys repeatedly. They don't own the Ratchet & Clank IP or the Resistance IP but they're such good developers. I'm like, 'Why aren't you guys doing multi-platform? Your games would sell.' As if those guys couldn't create something - of course they could. It's not like Sony came up with the art and graphics on Ratchet & Clank. The Insomniac guys are nuts not to do multi-platform. But they like their deal with Sony, so they'll keep doing exclusives." And they are still doing exclusives for Sony, but his comment about them being "nuts" for not doing multi-platform could be interpreted more as stating the obvious. Which dev wouldn't make more money from doing multi-platform AND having the same exclusives with a strong market audience?
He didn't say they would go multi-plat, he said they were nuts for not doing so. That doesn't make him right since he didn't predict anything. That simply means that he should no longer think they are nuts. And for Pachter to respond that KZ3 isn't a game changer in the manner in which Guerrilla meant it - it changes the way you experience the game - then Pachter would have needed to actually play KZ3 in 3D. He hasn't. The guy is an absolute imbecile and I believe absolutely clueless as to how he is perceived by most gamers.
Think about it Pachter is always right? If you wanna know whats right when Pachter makes his predictions just think the opposite. lol
A broken watch is right twice a day...
Who didn't see Insomniac going multi coming. Their games, although awesome as hell don't sell as much as some other big name franchise and they never get the respect and attention they deserve. Also Sony themselves has been saying that the it is the end of third party exclusives. I bet that Sony knew about Insomniac's direction way before anyone else knew.
I know that guy has never been right and we all fking hate him .. but well he's kinda right about this one. feel free to "Disagree" me :]
I'm pretty sure my 5 year old niece could be a better analyst than Pachter. I've never seen anyone so freaking delusional in my entire life.
Hitler? Osama? Castro? Bush? Kim Jong Il? Narendra Modi? The Communists? Extremists? They're less delusional than Pachter? You must not have lived a very long life then.
Hey Nike, add Obama to that list.
And add my name to the list as well. :D
Killzone 3 in 3D a game changer... Confirmed!!!
Pachter, do us a Favor and SHUT THE F*CK UP!!! Ah... It doesn't matter anyways, this dude is WRONG 99.9% of The Time, So, NOW We Know that KZ3 Will Be so Epic...
Next machines coming out in 2012...Sony throwing all there eggs in one basket....as usual...It's an expensive basket...Truth hurts... Sounds like Sonys big E3 announcements will revolve around money...and how it's gonna cost you more to game with Sony...C'mon now...$10 a month...geeez...from free to $10...that's crazy regardless of features...The Sony Move...looks exactly like the Wii...I guess it'll come with a Move sports game...3D gaming...That means a WHOLE NEW TV doesn't it....wow...I've seen this before...How are they gonna convince families to spend all that money...This could turn into a nightmare for Sony... Pachter is a bloodhound...follows the blood trail...Sony's been Hemorrhaging this whole gen...shareholders know it...Pachter knows it...Pointing out the obvious...Fan boys in denial, as usual....
Sony will focus on money for E3? That is a real eye roller considering the path MS went this generation. They charge you for everything and OVER charge you at that. Then again isn't "money" the main reason to be in business?
HE IS NOT A GAMER! How or why would he give the opinion of how games, devices or upgrades in gaming will play out when he doesn't play video games? Pachter stick to sales numbers and leave gaming to the GAMERS! I am more intrigued with 3D gaming then I am motion controls from MS and Sony. If I have no clue if I (a 30+ year gamer) will enjoy it or not? How in the hell would some boring analyst know? He doesn't!
Somebody with common sense. Seriously though Pachter does not do a good job. He doesn't seem to understand the Computer Entertainment buisness. If Sony don't give you a reason to buy 3D then people won't buy 3D. Sony know that the 3D market is basically non existent but the will give you a reason to buy 3D. Pachter only gets the obvious right which the average gamer could predict themselves. Sometime Pachter even gets the obvious wrong, remember when he said that Sony could cut out the Blu Ray to make their console cheaper when the PS3 had already sold over 10 million and already had a big catalogue of Blu Ray games. Now whats wrong with that statement??
hey hey pachter predicts the future take what he says do the opposite and the chances of being wrong are reversed from 99 percent to being right 99 percent of the time
I want to get paid to "predict" obvious crap too.
I'm not sure why this guy hasn't gotten a job with Microsoft yet. If it were Halo in 3D it would be: Pachter - "3D HALO to change the industry".
Sick of this prick, he's always making a fool of himself, he said Red Dead Redemption would fail, I bet most gamers could do his job better than him.
No, it turns out that most gamers are only capable of losing their #@#$, responding to horrible articles, that they didn't actually read, in the N4g comments section. Judging by the comments here, most gamers couldn't even get a job as one of his research assistants.
NOOOOOOOOO Stop Pachter!!!!!!!!!!! Think about your job, your reputation!!! - advice from a wise old man
What ever he says, reverse it. LOL. He's so dumb it's comical.
I dont think alot of 3D tvs will be out either. Title tries to make it sound like he's bashing KZ3. You win this round Pach.....but I'm watching you.
When they said 3D was a "game changer" for killzone 3, they weren't referring to sales and amount of uptake! They were talking bout how you experience the game and I'm 100% sure patcher has been nowhere near the game so has no clue how the "game changes" when you put it in 3D
Yeah. I couldnt give a fuck how much it sells. Im gonna be smokin' Higs in 3D and I dont care whether anyone else does or not.
So you presume that he could only be responding to the GamePro article ? Really? And you know this how again?
urm he's clearly referring to "game changer" as increased sales and by using "game changer" as a quote he is obviously referring to the quote from Guerilla Games which was meant in terms of how you play the game!
If we hate him so much, why is there always posts on his opinions? Don't approve em.
Doesn't quite work that way on N4G. The only way you can properly show some one's opinions are not worth your attention is by dragging them out of Pending, beating them with insults and flames and then getting it into the top stories bracket. So in other words, by giving it your full attention. I challenge any one to find a bigger conflict of desires on N4G than that. @morganfell: Even HHG's opinions (I loathe to call them predictions or rumours) get dragged out and beaten to death - every story of his is a contest between those who blindly follow him and those who blindly hate him (in the sense that if they hated him, they should just ignore him). And hence he always averages more than 300 degrees per story, irrelevant of which side he's on (despite being pre-dominantly Sony-biased).
He's the hiphopgamer of analysts.
The industry would have fell on its ass already if it was relying on this guys predictions.
I mean go and do your job as an ANALYST, not as a misinformed flaimbaiting f*ckwad... Show me the raw market data and underlying trends which tell you that it will fail...
i'd report the title of the story - BUT I CAN'T ANYMORE.....now you have to be a contributor. but, i guess all of the "certified" contributors didn't see that the title is misleading AND erroneous. in the article pach clearly says 3D isn't a gamechanger. the title makes it sound like he's saying the game itself (with 3D) won't be a gamechanger. whether it won't be or not isn't the issue - but, the fact that contributors on the site can't see blatant mistakes like this nor are non-contributors any longer allowed to report stories for these kinds of screw-ups is only hurting the site. so much for the "new" and "improved" N4G. as far as his comment that KZ3 is arriving "too late" to move consoles? ps3 sales are booming right now - so how is KZ3 "too late"???
It's the title of the article, word for word. The contributor rules say that you have to use the original title. So, although it may be a bad title for the article, it is still the article's correct title. I think that the article is very poorly written and doesn't explain its context very well, which you have to work a little to infer. But I think it's safe to assume that he's talking specifically about Killzone 3 based on the paragraph before what looks like a general statement about 3D. There's speculation that 3D in and of itself won't be a game changer, either. I'm not saying anything one way or the other on that because it's too soon to tell.
but it doesn't make any sense that our "contributors" approve poorly written articles that don't even have an accurate title. (do they even read the articles before approving?) i re-read the article........ the first 3 statements are about the 3D functionality.the last statement was about his comment from a previous article stating his belief that KZ3 is arriving too late to move consoles. (and i have no clue why he feels the game is "too late"). - so i still believe the title is completely bogus.
"as far as his comment that KZ3 is arriving "too late" to move consoles? ps3 sales are booming right now - so how is KZ3 "too late"???" When was it suppose to arrive, before KZ2? A week after KZ2???
pachters comment about KZ3 being late was idiotic.
who cares if he thinks that, i dont. many MAAAAANY people dont. chill.
Apparently you care, because you ran here to bitch about whatever it is that you think he said.
This isn't a brain-teaser at all: if there's only 1% or so that has these televisions our there, then it's not going to be a game changer. That's just like saying Halo: Reach isn't a game changer because just about everyone who wanted to play Halo probably has a 360 to begin with; and while I love Halo, I can concede that as good as it looks, it most likely won't be a game changer.
The 3D is OPTIONAL Pachter ! Just like playing HD games on an HDTV is OPTIONAL ! GAWD...!
Played killzone 3 in 3D thoght not his opinion is irrelevant
is that there really isnt a lot of 3d tv's out there; srw pachter
I think you guys maybe over reacting. 1.) He didnt bash KZ3 2.) He was right about the 3D TV adoption. 3.) He's not always wrong. I'd say he's about 50/50
Correct me if I'm wrong but '3DTV's' have just launched and only from a few electronics makers. Sales will improve as more electronic's maker come onboard with a full roll out of 3DTV's everywhere. The 'World Cup' will help push sales of 3DTV's through the roof. As it did with HDTV's.
They will increase in sales, but by this time next year there still prolly wont be a lot in households.
Listen the guy is paid a salary by Microsoft take that on board when you see him spouting his nonsense.
This has to be the easiest prediction ever made, considering how obvious it is. For 3D in Killzone 3 to be a game changer would require that more people be able to take advantage of it. I wouldn't even consider 3D support when buying the game because I won't have a 3D television. It would be nice to know that it's there if 3D is still around when I do make the jump, though.
What ever, dude.
Pachter sure knows how to stir things up. Pachter : Hmm..what can I get wrong today...(thumbs through diary) Annoying but entertaining - all rolled into one body!
I actually like Pachter, if you watch his videos he makes a lot of sense. He's a lot smarter than what people give him credit for.
Patchter just needs to allow himself. He does makes some good points but, I don't see anything special about the guy. Anyone one of us could make one of those statments.
I don't think that KZ3 is relying on 3D for its success.
Avatar: The Game also had 3D support and look how 'game changing' that was ;)
come on you aren't that stupid soda, quit the cheap trolling.
He looks so stupid in that photo he is not a model for dam sure but really he spoke his mind does he get paid for this? to say what he thinks for random stuff he thinks he knows everything about? Does he think he is Nostradamus? I don't get this douche.
It has nothing to do with adoption though. The 3D is a game changer because it's, going by early impressions, going to show what's possible for 3D games. That's game changing. Also, his comment about adoption is moot. You need good, quality content to get people to adopt a technology. Killzone 3 will help push adoption, no matter how small.
i bought my current tv for k2 and plan to follow suit for k3
so glad GG are taking the time to do killzone 3, with OPTIONAL 3d, so that in a few years when i DO have a 3d tv, i can come back to this game and experience it all over again like it was all new for me.
He does make a good point about 3dtv. How many people actually have a 3d tv right now?!?! A million maybe? And how many of those have PS3's who want to play KZ3? I personally LOVE the KZ franchise, I'm just saying that I hope SONY is trying to market this game as one that has long legs as opposed to something that will sell 3D itself.
I love when they take Pachter out of context to give you PS3 fanboys something to cry about.