It is expected to be one of the best selling action adventure video games of all time, but just-released Wild West game "Red Dead Redemption" has Irish media outraged at a drunken Irish character who is inebriated and abusive all the time.
Its an 18? If its played by anyone under that age that doesn't know its a joke thats not Rockstars problem :p
.... So what!? Who cares? Let them be offended. People need to grow up and grow some skin, instead of being so overly sensitive. But hey, that's the Irish for ya: always so sensitive(!)
Is wats wrong with society. People need to learn what "crossing the line" means. You cant do something offensive and expect someone not to be offended. That's ridiculous. Though, knowing R* they prolly did it on purpose.
Haha.. Maybe the irish just aren't used to being picked on. There were so many jabs at Americans in GTA IV, yet I never heard the american media take offense to any of it.
Crossing the line? It bewilders me how there are people out there who think that they have some right to never be offended by anything. Rockstar has always picked up on stereotypes in their games. Every GTA game since GTA III has been packed full of them. The stereotype of the drunk, red-nosed, boisterous Irishman isn't any worse than any of the other ones in Rockstar's games. And with the number of Irish pubs where I live it seems like some work very hard to earn it. This game is also full of stereotypes, not just a drunken Irish stereotype. Some people just seem to like to feel offended and complain about it. I guess that's their right. Thank goodness that I also have the right to not care.
I am Irish and let me tell you no one is offended! The Evening Herald is a tabloid looking for attention, enough said? The only problem I have with him is his shit accent :P It really is quite bad at times, they should get an Irish person to do it. He pronounces the "f" in "of" :(
Im Irish but I haven't got my copy of RDR yet (damn you play.com!!!!). I know for a fact I won't be offended by it. Except for what heroicjanitor said. The only thing that bugs me about Irish characters are very bad accents. As for the boozing?? Sure it's no secret that we love a drink :)
The Irish are dirty, worthless drunks. Any of my brethren in here? :D
lol family guy has all of them and I don't hear people getting all boo hoo over it lol. hahahahahah everyone trying to give R* a hard time... keep it up R* I guess the media thinks it's okay because PG is a fat white american.... uhhh people need to stfu when it comes to games, look at movies for god sake.
Is that why drinking is the main event on St Patricks Day?? Where are all the drunken irish complaining then?? Its a game get over it! This isnt the first drunken irish sterotype and it wont be the last. Every race & nationality get stereotyped its the world we live in. EDIT: I agree villevalorox, no one complained about Micky Mcfinnigan on Family Guy, He the whole reason Peter's a Drunk. Thats why Seth Mcfarlanes shows are popular its shows the hypocrisys and stereotypes others like to preted dont exist in thier communities. But God forbid its in a video game.
You have to realise it's a tabloid newspaper, they're just trying to cause a stir. Most Irish people think it's funny, except for the occasionally bad accent
"...noting the game will be played by millions of kids worldwide." I Lol'd. Gotta love journalists.
There's so much racism in the game, and they just noticed it now? Just press circle on your character online when your gun is holstered.
I've never even heard of such a stereotype in my life
Who are ya callin' abusive ya little feckin eejit?!?! Now, I'm off for me mornin' whiskey.......
Stereotypes lets us make good story's.Because it copying reel life their are stereotype or clicks or categorize in everything we see or do.People will scream over anything.Schoolchildren playing this game know this is what we should be screaming over. ps im Irish and i was rolling around on the ground laughing my ass off[This could be me in 30 years]
If schoolchildren will be playing this then the stereotype of the bad parent definitely comes into play.
Yea i seen that coming as soon as I came across Irish. Honestly though F**k the people it offends, every day on see something on TV that many people could find offensive or racist or just insulting to groups of people and thats the world we live in if you dont like it screen everything you watch/read/listen too for the rest of your overly sensitive life.
they also have Chinese who got addicted to opium, but I don't see the Chinese complaining.
That probably has more to do with the Chinese people not really knowing of it's existence...
The ramifications of the Chinese complaining as a country (if that's what you are implying) are limited, and may only be brought up as a political measure; as Chinese Americans, it may be noted that Opium smoking was outlawed April 1, 1909; and between the bigotry/racism that was set against the Chinese and the fact that RDR took place in 1911, it would be unlikely that there would be any Chinese carrying the stuff around for the simple fact that they would more likely be hung/shot than the average "cowboy". I would say it would be more potent to point those facts out and laugh at the lack of historical accuracy of the game. *In history, the Chinese had to push back on the Americans and the English because a lot of the populace were getting addicted... most Western historians try to blame the Opium Wars on isolationist and exclusionary trade policy, but that's not true.
Old news and wrong source http://n4g.com/news/527259/...
why wasn't this reported as a duplicate? http://n4g.com/news/527259/... this article is even quoting from the above source that was originally posted lol
you know stereotyping a American you think of fat balding stupid people that love to go camping. Are Americans upset by this stereotype........of course not look at the comments above.
lol. that is funny, I'm not mad at that stereotype lol.. hahah, I <3 the simpsons. good find lol
er, um... LOL!!
Sadly there are some truth to it. Same as Irish being drunk.
So what exactly happens after said people have been offended? Do they feel ill? Are they physically damaged in any way? Is their life affected in any way at all? No. So be offended all you want, nothing happens.
Another duplicate article gets approved. The review this piece refers to hardly expressed "outrage", the author didn't approve of the stereotype, he briefly mentions it and then spends the bulk of the review praising the game..sensationalist nonsense.
Oh, for Gods sake.
How many times have we seen a drunken irishman in other media? You know, like, books, movies, and, well, everything...
don't buy it; I'm not knocking either side of the issue because everyone has the right to be offended, but a economic departure speaks more than a verbal one when it comes to Developers. Businesses bleed money and not blood, so when you stab them in the profit margin, they are more wary of their next move.
Black selling watermelon? oh lawds i lol'd hard. I want more scottish stereotypes in my games.. just to laugh at them.
Who knew the Irish were alcoholic pussies.
Pot calling the kettle black! Ha!
This article is an absolute joke. I hope that they never watch the Family guy episode when Peter finds out his real dad is Irish, I think they may hang themselevs. As usual sensationalist journalisim about f**k all, just becuase its a game and they can jump on the bandwagon. Joke.
I think the paper failed to realise that this is satire, happens all over media not just in games, not just to Irish characters but to every single type of person across the planet. Welcome to the nanny state where people find racism, sexism, religious discrimination, ageism, you name it, in places they aren't. Resident Evil 5 being a good example. Journalists need to do some proper research and report on where these problems really are instead of jumping on to the bash the latest media (video games) bandwagon.
"Would they have black characters selling watermelon or Jewish characters lending money, of course not. But it seems-okay to slur the Irish." That was quiet funny, I don't think they should be to offended by it because I don't think Irish people are really like that specially in the area I live in, one area in London where it is predominantly Irish people mixed with Carribean and Asian.
I'm Irish (born, bred and buttered) and take it from me, we are a nation of complainers. There's nothing we seem to like more than a good complaining session. I have been in Dubai for the past six months, but from what I hear, we haven't stopped complaining about the recession for a year and a half. Everything from our media to our social interactions are riddled with complaints. If it's not the latest political pariah, it's the weather (the weather's always a good one). If the weather has miraculously changed for the better, we must focus our complaints elsewhere. It was sunny this week in Ireland. Take from that what you will :P It's always too cold, too hot, too much money... Now that's not to say that's all we ever talk about, but any Irishman who tells you that (as a nation overall) we don't complain at every given opportunity is either lying or has the social awareness of a sponge. Similarly, anyone who says we don't have a particular fondness for a drink is straight up lying. So it's not like this has incensed us to an inordinate degree, it's more a matter of us needing something to complain about in all our media during pub conversations. That's how we roll.
Lol yeah we netherlands are know for our liberal view on softdrugs and of course we are cheap ass bastards. There's a reason people say at dates lets go dutch and split the bill. But come on have you seen the average american in RDR stupid and simple as fuck. ----------------------------- ----- Small spoilers ? ----------------------------- ----- Just finished the fort mercer part and only smart person i met is The sherif and dickens that scamming bastard i felt dirty by helping him scam all those people.
Well, I think we have pretty good reason to be complaining about the economy because the country is totally f*cked, and will be for many years to come. But it is true that we complain a lot. Everyone was complaining that it was too hot this weekend. But this, I wouldn't be offended by or complain about at all. It's just the usual clueless media attack on video games that happens every now and again.
Hilarious. He gets all self righteous and then goes on to insults Jews and Blacks. Dont all races have a stereotypes? Dont blame R* because you're a bad parent.
The Irish should take a leaf out of the Australians' book: Celebrate their drunked, violent history. :)
The general public of Ireland happily celebrate our drunken, violent history. One only needs to watch the amount of adverts telling us to take it easy on the booze to see this.
I am so sick of everyone being offended about everything. Seriously, people either need to grow thicker skin or just never leave the house. So the game picks on a stereotype? So what? I don't condone stereotypes, but they are stereotypes for a reason. The game is rated M, so if some kid is playing it and gets offended then too bad. If he can't handle it then he should not be playing it in the first place. Actually, that statement holds true for adults too.
THE MAIN CHARACTER IS IRISH TOO, SO TO COUNTERACT THAT CHARACTER YOU COME ACROSS DONT DRINK AT THE SALOONS AT ALL, PROBLEM SOLVED
....accuracy is bad, right? I’m Irish (by blood, not legally) and having an Irish family I can say yes, it wasn’t too far off. And it was really funny. These people need to stop making such a big deal out of it....
How come the Mexicans isn't complaining about being painted as bunch of womanizing, bean eating, politically naive wackos?
this game is rated 18 for a reason. so 'school kids' DONT get to play it. stupid retards.
Ha! The fact its set in 1911 so everyones common pass time is to drink anyway. Just because this character drinks and is also Irish is a cause for outrage? "Call the fun police! I'm offended by this game and can't enjoy it, therefore, no one else can!"
I'm actually Irish as well. I say actually because frankly this whole Irish blood thing so many American's claim as an excuse to act like eejits/be offended by these stereotypes is a joke at this point. Regardless, the "Evening Herald" is a crappy tabloid newspaper which in it's own meagre way tries to be above actually crappy tabloids like the Sun, and it sure does love it's sensationalism. To be fair, these days plenty of this sort of thing goes under the radar and nobody has any problem with it. It's only when bored journalists find out and make people aware of it that there are problems. Hell I havn't played the game yet, but if had I just found out about "Irish" that lovable rascal, I would have probably found myself telling my friends about him down the pub. I probably will anyways, but now I'll have to add "and sure the Evening Herald doesn't like him at all!
Ehhhh, I'm part Irish. I thought he was an interesting character, in a good way that is. You shouldn't expect not to get offended by anything R* makes, so just lighten up. Don't play the game if you don't like it.
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