More than half of Xbox 360 owners say they are likely to purchase Microsoft's Project Natal motion camera this fall, according to a recent marketing study conducted by consumer research firm OTX.
when they say more then half, do they mean 20 million 360 owners or half of the people in the study? edit: nevermind 1,500 people.
natal is useless
@budgetgamer, uhm please tell me you were just kidding with that question, I know you edited it, but even without reading it you should know most studies short of decades of scientific research don't involve 20mil people, in fact any study/survey with a sample size of 1,000 participants is consider highly reliable for a statistical study. http://www.sciencebuddies.o... "The study, which screened 1,500 people (weighted towards towards ages 14-34) who play video games for more than 1 hour a week, said 56 percent of the respondents are "likely" to purchase the peripheral, with 18 percent of those saying they are "extremely likely." "The study also noted that first-person shooters ranked the highest in genres players were most interested in using Project Natal with. Fighting, Action-Adventure, Role-Playing, and Racing games rounded out the top five." Now watch all the sony kids show up just to tell us how much THEY don't care that *56% of 360 owners CARE ABOUT NATAL and are likely to buy it. lol Yet they are in every Natal thread, actions speak louder than words. @spiky1228, lol IGN did not do this study: "according to a recent marketing study conducted by consumer research firm OTX." --IGN is a game site and thus they report all newsworthy gaming info, I guess they're bending both ways with a whole news section dedicated to ps3. lmfao @crmbe "Perhaps because there really is nothing interesting for x360 fans to look forward too." --yeah because starting the year off with the superior version of Bayonetta which score well by many sites, then followed up by a definite GOTY contender like ME2, and I've recently played great games like SC:Conviction, AW, mixed in with the awesome Halo Reach beta and now 360 has the superior version of RDR+the best online service, yeah those games aren't worth playing unless it has a ps logo on the box, right? lol, your jealousy is showing. Sony soldiers are so jealous Natal attracts more interest from just about every than wii-move. It's somehow funny and sad to watch them hate so much. JOY
"in fact any study/survey with a sample size of 1,000 participants is consider highly reliable for a statistical study. " if i remember right they did a study on rrod on 360 involving quite a big number of people. and the percentage they came out with was 54 percent if i remember right. so your saying that the survey was correct and the 360's failure rate is 54 percent? G-ZUZ! there you have it xboxers straight from one of your hardcore fans keyboard. lol
@ corepred The study you refer to has been debunked numerous times, as it exhibits selection bias and sampling bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... For the study to be effective, the study needs to be a "random sample of a population (or non-human factors) in which all participants are equally balanced or objectively represented." The study you refer to is seriously statistically flawed, due to the non-randomness of its sample, and the tendency of negative responses to be over-represented. In other words, the people with rrod were more likely to have an axe to grind and respond negatively. Even non-360 owners were able to submit their response, out of sheer spite. I know, sad, but true. You may wish to take a first year university stats course, to brush up on the basics.
He reacted a=emotionally to the header without reading the article. This will be hard times for PS3 fanboys and people with Sony preference. Natal won last E3 with consumer polling and by the majority of media. I'm telling you Natal will be hotter than Wii.
By using smoke and mirrors? Yeah. Because the only thing they've shown since is the red ball game. Thats it. That doesn't show alot of confidence. Tell me, which paint tech is better? Natal: http://www.youtube.com/watc... Move: http://n4g.com/news/490590/... Watch that Natal video. When he said at the end, "There's our gorgeous master piece" i literally burst out laughing. And im not having an attack, i just genuinely think what they demonstrated with their paint tool was absolute garbage when you compare it to the beautiful accuracy of the Move paint demo
BWAHAHAHA...thanks for the laugh dude! with what? smoke and mirrors milo? or bottom of avatar shoes? "BAMMM! there it is!" that is just too funny! or are you implying Ricochet as the best show at E3 last year?
Yes sony soldiers are very bitter over Natal receiving more attention for the media and general public than wii-move, and Yes Natal will be hot whenever its released, but I don't think it will be as hot as the wii. Nintendo caters to the casuals and most don't care to much for gaming beyond so quick pick up and play games, I don't see a ton of them going out and getting Natal or wii-move because they already have a wii and most don't game enough to play both consistently. However **IF micro has some great offerings for Natal that casuals and hardcore gamers alike can play I think Natal will really be big for 360 and gather a sustainable fanbase. JOY
"wii move"....yeah sure, it's so much more, but propaganda from fanbots is endless :) "eye toy natal", is more the reality. every real player knows that only move is a serious controler for serious game (precision, lag free..wireless) only box sheeps, marketing brainwashed fans buy everything, even the games they don't like, if they are xbox exclusives, and even if they was laughing about eye toy, ps eye, they probably want natal eye toy (israelians made it, not ms).
N4G users are a tiny minority of the total gamer population. Among more casual gamers I know personally, Natal is quite hot. It's on their radar - they're just waiting for more information to be released. They're more likely to buy it than not at this moment.
The casual and even hardcore gamers I know know nothing about Natal. I'm asking them about what they think and they're just staring at me blankly. Now bear in mind, these are average casual gamers who would look at you and ask, "What's a Halo?" And that's the thing. Casual gamers don't know anything about Natal. They don't watch the youtube videos, they don't visit game sites, they don't read gamer magazines. That's not what casual gamers do. Casual gamers pick up a Wii because they've heard so much about them and their friends have picked them up. They think they'll be good with the kids and it has Mario. Everyone knows Mario. What does Natal have? No brand recognition, who knows what it'll cost. No franchises. You honestly expect me to believe that a casual gamer faced with the Wii that he's heard so much about that's cheaper, slimmer, and has one of the most instantly and recognizable characters in video game history is going to suddenly jump onto the 360 Natal wagon? A more expensive, bigger, bulkier product running on questionable hardware and, what...Milo? I'm sorry, I just can't see how Natal is going to sell 100 units to casuals, much less the millions that Microsoft is boasting it'll sell. If it was the only motion control console on the market they might have something but given the Wii's utter dominance in that market, I just don't see it. It's going to be a repeat of the Zune going up against the Ipod in my opinion. You might have an OK product, but it's simply too late.
Well said. Bubbles PS360.
Doesn't matter how many people buy it if they don't buy games and use it it just becomes another useless ad-on and it doesn't become a money maker for developers and publishers. I don't understand why anyone is excited enough to buy without seeing anything besides the little casual mini games and that little Milo demonstration that seemed more like smoke and mirrors than actual technology. Not that I don't have interest but they need to show it's capable of more than what they have been willing to show people. Based on what they have shown I would not buy Natal.
MS has a ton of momentum and interest from the mainstream for Natal. They will have to really bring the big guns out at E3
Or at least make it look like they brought them.
I'm more curious than interested and far from sold! We will see what MS has in store at e3.
But that's it. I'm curious. I find it a bit hard to believe that half of 360 fans said they're likely to rush out and purchase one this fall. For what? We haven't seen anything yet. Who the hell would commit themselves to purchasing a product they've never seen and don't know anything about? Also, the majority of the respondents said they want shooters. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Microsoft specifically tell developers not to make shooters or action type games for Natal? 59% of males said they wanted it for shooters and 39% said action/adventure games. What do you think the overall results for this survey would have been if they had mentioned to gamers that they wouldn't be getting either of those genres on Natal?
When I read this, the first thing that I thought about was how could anybody say they will purchase Natal w/o even seein a single game yet. I'm sure this will all change after E3 (which is when this poll should have been done).
I know many friends who are interested in Natal, but after I told them that it might cost $120 they opted out. Regardless, once Sony shows off the Move and PS Eye, the rest will be history. People will realize you can do just about everything Natal does with the PS Eye. Besides, Sony's done casual before. I'm sure Move will move plenty of systems.
Why would you lie to your friends like that? I mean, Natal might suck and it might be expensive, but why don't you just let your friends decide that after Natal is released?
You told your friends, who all have 360's that NATAL will cost $120 and that its basically a PS Eye and they said screw that we are getting MOVE. Right :S and Santa is real and lives with the Easter bunny in candy land.
Read his comment again.
looks like microsoft is putting its ammo on natal when sony is release new games and also touching on move my prediction is Sony will show bunch of games for the ps3 and move and microsoft might just show some games already showed for example Gears 3, crackdown, fable 3, and mayb announce new games but looks like sony will take this E3...if microsoft takes E3 its because they bring some celebrity promoting a game and maybe show some new third party games that havent been annouce
I know for a fact that as soon as E3 is finished and Move is officially announced, priced and dated.. I will be one of the first at gamestop to pre order my Move bundle which will come with a game, the camera and the controller for $99.99. Along with pre ordering Socom 4. I could quite frankly careless about Natal. All i want is that sports champions game with table tennis and that gladiator game for move, socom 4 and Tiger woods 11 for move and ill be set for my motion control fix for the year.. No natal for me
"The study also noted that first-person shooters ranked the highest in genres players were most interested in using Project Natal with. Fighting, Action-Adventure, Role-Playing, and Racing games rounded out the top five." Shame they will most likely be getting fit and losing weight then gunning down enemies lol!
I've got to agree with you on that, I've no interest till I see more of Natal I'm sick of all the smoke and mirrors.
just because the N4G PS3 fanboys aren't interested in Natal doesn't mean no one else is. Edit: And also because most users of N4G (mostly "hardcore" gamers) aren't interested, doesn't mean no one else is. How many people here are really into the Wii, definitely the minority, and look how bad the Wii is smashing the 360 and PS3 in sales. Fact is, MS, Sony, and Nintendo are not looking for just the approval of the N4G community.
Microsoft has, in recent years, had a lot of trouble gathering mainstream attraction. The Zune is a perfect example of trying to hit mainstream but failing. Same with their Windows Mobile platform and recently cancelled iPad competitor. The XBox and 360 succeeded because they always (especially the XBox) targeted the hardcore. Now that they have it, they'll really have to prove they can grab a chunk of the casual market. Unfortunately, with the lack of actual Natal software this will be a tall mountain to climb.
True, but IGN's survey is highly inconclusive. Won't believe a word of it 'til the product hits the mainstream. The commercial market will matter far more than any early hear-say.
PS3 fanboys not interested in Natal? They show more interest than any group out there. They just fear Natal so they hate it. The excuses are weak in here "only one game shown" "not enough shown" but in reality people are excited about the tech just as much as the software that will come.
They fear what exactly? the bottom of Avatars shoe!! I'm interested in seeing what M$ has to show us in terms of Natal but in reality they better show something big this red ball crap is all there showing in these closed privet showings no real games have been shown. Sony on the other hand have already shown us LBP, Socom4 and there version of (Wii Sports/Play) on camera with nothing to hide so who's worried here it seems you are, I really think we should all just wait till E3 it seems all the little Muppet fanboys around here are already claiming a winner even before E3 has even started.
u mean everyone who isnt a gamer, right? id rather be a N4g ps3 fan
Strong interest.... so far we have seen only one game demoed.
yeah, but it's enough for sheeps. "bubububu motion control is useless" 2007 "bububuuuuu now microsoft has an eye toy, i want it, even if it's useless" funny when i read : "Voice commands and scanning items into it are really interesting and innovative" eye toy already do that, on ps2.
Surprising that 24% of non-xbox owners plan to buy Natal. Really? That means a quarter of gamers surveyed are willing to buy a new console plus an additional add-on? I highly doubt that. I think this surveys results are overly-optomistic about Natal's reception. People probably just optimistically checked 'Yes' without really thinking, "Would I spend $300+ for Natal?".
"People probably just optimistically checked 'Yes' without really thinking, "Would I spend $300+ for Natal?". " You are trying to disprove one assumption with another.
The last sentence I did. I was generalizing to prove a point. The point being, surveys have a number of inherent flaws, and it would be ill-advised to live and die by these numbers--they appear overly optimistic. Especially considering there is no price point announced and a majority of gamers are aware of Natal but don't know much about it. It's hard to imagine that if those surveyed know what we know (or will know after E3) about Natal, their responses might be different.
we don't know a whole lot about it yet. we don't know how well it will be supported or anything. i'm waiting to see the games for it, the games for move, and of course what the price will be for either before making a decision. im leaning towards the move but i really don't have enough info yet on natal to make a definite buying decision as of yet. i don't have room for a wii with the ps3 and 360 in there, so sony and microsoft are right in a sense that their just may be more of a market for these "add ons" than people think. what i have seen/heard of natal it does look cool, but we will see e3! hopefully many of my questions about both will be answered then.
How can one say they arnt interested in natal but than turn around and say they haven't seen enough?? So if you haven't seen enough than how can you pass judgement and say you arnt interested?? These sony boys are pretty ridiculous
...and people want their ultimate NXE experience. Think of all the sweet waving of arms to navigate through NXE, and gesturing to start Netflix. Imagine sending an IM, with a picture of you giving the bird to your friend, because Natal recognizes the bird, AND picks the name out of the "&^%$ you Bob!" which emerges from your vocal chords shortly thereafter. (*) Natal is the future. Everyone wants it. This study proves it. (*) Natal auto-IM only available to XBL Platinum subscribers. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
well with smg2, metroid and probably zelda this year wii owners certainly have no use for it. when all you've got is halo AGAIN you'll grasp at any straw to feel excited about something.
And it smells like Natal....It must be natal......cause it sure as hell aint playstation move...lol
"If it looks like Natal.. And it smells like Natal....It must be natal" or a new ps eye. even if move is the only real great motion controler for players, hardcore gamers, wii and natal can do better : like in cinema, software charts, or console market etc, the best things are not always the best selling things, because people are dumbs, and believe every rumors, marketing adds they can see.
I just dont see Move beating Natal... Any non-n4ps3 guy will strongly agree.
Funny I don't see either of them beating the Wii no matter what system sells better they will always be in the Wii's shadows.
most of the 360 community is hardcore gamers. project natal is not targeting them. they are targeting the casual players who own wiis. so this article is pointless.
Add me as to one of the ones that owns a 360 and will be getting this. Not only for gaming applications but the tech in general looks amazing and new. Voice commands and scanning items into it are really interesting and innovative.
but i am kind of excited to see what it's all about at e3. Along with the other motion controller debuting. It comes back to the games..
Another paid article by M$, can't believe it. Seems that M$ used the money that they got paid from the Verizon ad in Alan Wake game lol lol.
These gamers never played PS EYE so this explains why they are interested in Natal
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