Rockstar's Lazlow has slammed parents that buy his own firm's violent video games for their children. The condemnation arrives as the studio's latest game, Red Dead Redemption, makes its way to stores worldwide.
Those pesky parents!
rofl of course R* says this. i mean, they are the guys who as kids always had the best videogames that no other parents would buy their kids. but now that they have become useful working members of our society, what else can you do but say this.
Do you personally know anyone who works at R*? Didn't think so.
im... demanding my parents for this? hahaha
@Va_bank Lol.. nice
If my 4 year old daughter loves me more than anything, then I definitely don't feel like a terrible parent even though I let her play GTA4... Her first time playing it, she was driving around shotting people, lol! so I go "hunny, you shouldn't shot innocent people like that, its not Nice. you should only shot the bad people that try to hurt you" then a few minutes later when I walked by again, she goes" Look daddy! see I'm not shotting any good people no more because its bad rite! I'm like good girl.. she then says "but those police are shotting me, can I shot them back?".... I'm like "uuuugh.. sure, go rite ahead. LOL! but you get the point... when I mess up in a game, I'll cuss & sh1t!(thinking she's in her room) but she'll come out of nowhere and say" Bad word daddy!!" so I'm like sorry hun, ahaha!.... I figure, since I have a lot of violent video games, my daughter is gonna see me play them sooner or later, so why not just let her embrace it, while teaching her the difference from right and wrong, good & bad, something thats just a game to reality?! she's 5 now and doesn't have a violent bone in her body, unlike some other mean, bad mouthing kids I've met who don't even play games!
so did you let your kid have sex with a hooker and then kill said hooker in GTA4?
Dude you're no way near the problem. 1. you don't complain 2. you keep an eye out for her 3. *this is a bonus* you spend time with her I hardly think that you're a bad parent. Everyone here who says that they didn't play a game that they once weren't old enough to play is full of bullshit.
yeah bro, he's gonna let her definitely do that sh1t, even though he keeps an eye on her & tells her that killing people is bad, Duhh.. @blizzard, exactly what I was thinking!
You are right on the money AKNAA If R* said "Terrible parents' buy our games for kids without teaching them the differences between video games and real life," instead of "Terrible parents' buy our games for kids," they would be right. I played many a violent game underage, but you don't see me acting on those experiments. My parents taught me right and wrong. They also taught me to take responsibility for my actions, something that today's parents (not you) do not do. They want to blame everyone else for their failures in parenthood.
your daughters f*cked. just kidding. My 3 year loves riding around the old west in red dead redemption. I don't let him go around killing or using weapons. He like using the lasso and "walking dogs" on the rope! It's kinda funny when they turn on him and bite him.Point is, I let him play the game but not the violently. You have to play it with them,monitor them,and make it just a small part of the day. We have to get them outside,educate them and teach to to be decent human beings first and foremost.Video games don't ruin kids. Sh*tty Parents do.
That you were able to give your child something fun to do to take her mind off the fact that she is growing up in a trailer park.
@ XerockX Amen to that. Especially that last statement. Parents need to teach their kids right from wrong at a young age. I don't think most parents now-a-days give a shit. It's pretty sad. @AKNAA There's absolutely nothing wrong with younger kids playing these games. 4 might be a bit young for GTA, but the fact that you also use it to teach her right and wrong is good. And if any kid is raised right and knows the difference between right and wrong, no amount of violent games will make them violent people.
I dont believe its wrong, i mean when i was that age my pop let me play Doom, and at the time was the worse out there because it just came out. I loved it, but that hasnt changed me today. I dont think games really change people all that much, but unfortunately there are some that do and its sad to see. Play the game for fun, and enjoyment out of it. Its a chance to live in a fantasy world, a way to release the anger and stress by killing your friends :) haha HF and GL
When I wasn't old enough to play those games, there were no ratings systems in effect. So I haven't played any games I was too young for. I also had a videogames hiatus between the ages of 12 and 21... except for the Street Fighter 2 craze that ended promptly when I lost my virginity and discovered Mary J. Wana! Not disagreeing with your overall point, but some of us are that f'in old!
Way to prove their point.
The point here is did you buy the game for your 4 year old daughter, or did you buy the game so you could play it? At 4 years old she's not old enough to completely grasp what is going on in the game. It's completely different if you weren't a gamer, and bought the game for her when she was a few years older and understood the concepts of what was going on. Lazlow is addressing the types of parents who buy their kids whatever game they want, thinking that it will keep them out of their hair for a while. These parents, who never pay attention to what their kids are doing, and never try to take the time to make sure their children understand the difference between reality and a video game, and the difference between right and wrong, are the parents Lazlow's talking about.
@ Cez of Rage Take your fanboyism out of this please. The fact is, it is the parent's fault. Its not R*'s job to make sure kids are raised properly, its the parent's responsibility. You sound like the type of person that blames everything on other people instead of taking responsibility for your own actions. Do you blame gun makers when some idiot shoots someone? I would love to know how old you are. My parent's taught me to take responsibility for my actions. It seems you may have been raised a little differently.
I agree, it's the parents job to decide what is or isn't appropriate for their kid, so if it's not R* job they should stay out of it, leave it alone, don't go out and publicly make an outrageous generalized statement like anyone who buys our games for their kids are terrible parents.... Honestly, never should a game publisher be calling people terrible parents, especially for something so trivial. It's simply low class, and bad for business. It's just not their place. They can easily just say these are games for adults, not intended for children, it's the parents responsibility to decide what they do or don't want their children playing or watching, and their job to enforce those rules. That's a reasonable example, there is no reason whatsoever to add a highly inappropriate insult into the mix, especially when it comes to peoples kids, you don't just say people are terrible parents, that's a very serious and insulting thing to say.
@Some people above Wow seriously guys? This guys is standing up for us gamers that are old enough to actually play these types of games. When children play these violent video games, and crimes are committed, the media tries every which way they can to link it to the games, and you guys know damn well they always blame it on video games. You also know damn well that they try to put so many limitations on video games because of this. This guy is speaking absolute sense when he's saying parents are bad if they're buying M (17+) games for their children. They shouldn't be playing these games if they cannot handle it, which in many cases they can't. Try reading the article, he speaks a lot of sense in it. [email protected] AKNAA above Just gotta make sure she knows the difference between video games and reality. If you already exposed her to violent games like that.
Rockstar has a point. It's rated 'M' for a reason, and parents who buy Rockstar's games for their kids are giving the games industry bad publicity.
LOL, careful....you'll lose 90% of your market.
Really? You should take a look at gamer's average age.
So they're "terrible" people? And all this time I never knew... (cries).... Huh? What birthday? 42nd! :)
It's much easier than spending time with the child and making sure they complete their homework.
Pretty sad reality huh?
You can say you don't feel children should play your games, but you got balls saying somebody's a terrible parent if they allow their kids to play it. Some kids are mature enough, and well taught to understand right from wrong and fantasy from reality. My parents were quite liberal about allowing me to watch R movies and play mature games when I was a young lad, I was also very mature for my age and had a firm grasp on the reality of the situation. I understand the point he's trying to make, in that parents shouldn't bitch at them about these games effect on their children when it's not intended for children and it's the parents responsibility to keep their children from playing it, but what an asinine thing to say, calling anyone who allows their kids to play their games is a terrible parent. As if you can measure a parents worth based on what videogames their kids have played, rather than the values they're taught before they ever played the game. A parent that lets their child know he/she is loved, makes sure they're fed, clothed and getting an education, and has an otherwise healthy relationship with open communication is a TERRIBLE parent because they bought that kid Red Dead... Bull! Shît! I agree most kids should not be playing M games, but ultimately it's up to the judgement of the parents. Some are terrible parents, and shouldn't have got them the game... But they're terrible parents for other reasons, not because they bought their child an inappropriate game. Just stick to making games R* that's what you're good at, it's not your job to pass judgement on your customers. It's certainly not your job to tell anyone how to raise their children. This comment really pissed me off... R* just lost a ton of respect in my book.
agree. Some parents and adults r lazy ass motherf*****s
...about parents who buy M rated games for their children and let them play the whole game unsupervised. That is not good parenting. But with that said, I'm a parent who has let my son play GTA games only while I was watching him. He had strict rules to only drive the cars and race though. In no way was he allowed to shoot or intentionally kill people. He could drive away from the cops but when they caught him, it was game over :)
ROFL! Guess I had horrible parents. TGSI
Well at least Rockstar knows that their target audience are the ``Terrible Parents``
i use to work walmart in electronics and i would always get parent that were angry at me cause they have to come down and buy their kids M rated games. they would say it stupid for them to have to buy it for them. and the funny thing is these are the same people that continually bitch how bad video games are for kids
The anti-video game lobbyists are just hypocrites who find scape goats to blame. It's like blaming Smirnoff for underage drinking.
they are willing to keep kids away from the lottery, smoking, drinking, even R rated movies, they even praise it. you don't see parents complain about those things and yet they complain when video games do it.
the sad thing is most parents don't care what games they get there kids but as soon as a kid becomes violent It's automatically the games fault. lol
I've been waiting for Rockstar to say this since GTA IV.
So true. I saw it with my own eyes at the midnight launch.
Yep, and those will be the same parents that blame video games when their kid steals a car or sells drugs.
I never needed a parent to by M rated games. ;)
thats the main reason why those gamestop employees are scared S**tless in New York State.
I'm so old that I was already 18 by the time they started putting M for mature on games.
I hate when parents say to me at work, Oh its not like they wont see it in the news or learn about it school.
I got buddies who aren't gamers and they are amazed that I buy my kids games based on the rating.
As an old gamer, I agree this is a parenting issue. There are kids games, and there are games for us adults. It is a parents job to know the difference, just like filtering out adult TV shows or movies from their kids to see.
I played GTA3 when I was 12 and you don't see me running people over and shooting old people...as long as you have half a brain in your head game ratings don't mean crap. Kids today are friggin' jacka$$'s.
I was playing Kid Icarus when I was 12. (and you don't see me flying around shooting eggplants!)
well at least their honest
"I've got an 11 year old and while I wouldn't say that he's never played on a violent game I do have my restrictions on what he plays. He has for instance had the odd blast on COD and Halo as lets face it, its no worse than what kids see on TV and also I dont see the game affecting his behavior at all." DOH!
COD on the other hand...depends which one, WaW was apparently more violent than say COD2...
The most violent COD was WAW IMO. Halo i agree isent that bad at all.
It is very rare that you will ever see a parent stand up and be true to the people and admit they did wrong. Everyone wants to be a great parent but a lot over time become stubborn and wont admit to their mistakes as a parent i see it all the time. Its so simple to my opinion is if the kid understands that they cant do these things you would see in like a game of GTA. They know better to do bad things like drugs then let them play. But their has to always be a limit with your children of course. I think this issue will never be resolved games will just get blamed from time and time again. Its how society has ruled in this we got the people that are honest and true and know that you have to be a good parent and do the things needed to be done to raise your kid to never do the bad things you would see in a game or movie. But then their is the people that think they are the most perfect parents in the world but they are the ones doing everything wrong by going out and buying their kid that game that their child doesnt quite understand.
I've been playing violent games since doom for me in 1996(got first computer then) and I was 11 years old. I have never been limited in the games I played from GTA to COD doesn't matter, now I'm 25 and yet to see the negative reactions and effects from the violence and bloody murder and sex in video games. I know games have definitely become more graphic in recent years so sure there should be limits to what kids play but it should not be used as a crutch and excuse by anyone. Games are just games and anyone who says its the cause of their violent behavior has more serious mental issues to deal with than playing violent video games.
Wow, your history is EXACTLY like mine. Doom at 11 around 1996 when I finally got a computer. Now almost 25 and there are no side effects from all the violent games I've played. Games are just an excuse by parents for their children doing bad things.
i love these type of stories when they come out its so funny to hear the parents bitch about what we love.....I'm a parent of 2 girls 6/3 both of them loves to play M rated games with me even tho my better half be upset at me but she'll get over it lol..my oldest loves the "Godfather series" since the first xbox days while my youngest is liking the soul caliber 4... point is if you are a responsible parent and know how raise you kids right and teach them what is right from wrong then you should have no problem at all... learn life first then you play your 360/wii hell my oldest is trying to learn how to play MW2... parents you have the power over your kids use it right....my kid got her own 360 in her room with her favorite game the godfather....always pay attention to them even when you are not paying attention
It's annoying when anyone blames parents for kids playing videogames, but when developers say it, it realy doesn't make sense. Maybe if it means so much to them they should do more than just stick an M on the front of their games.
im no parent, but i never let my nephews even see GTAIV, but their dad has, and its not cool kids can take brutal images better than we think, but they shouldn't be exposed to hours of non stop mindless violence, drugs, sex and all the other stuff...
He's exactly right. Why do politicians say violent video game have a bad influence on children if they are rated 18. You we have parental controls to limit are children accesses, and thus its up to the parent to sort out such matters.
Agree with R*, if you allow your minor child to play RDR, you are a bad parent.
But but but my mom bought me gta3 when i was 14
I will never let my son play M rated games until I believe he is mature enough to handle them. In the same way I wouldn't let my kids watch Pulp Fiction I would never let them play GTA. You can't blame video games for violent kids, responsibility lies solely on the parents.
And some kids handle the same situation different than others. Some kids can handle games like GTA and RDR and some can onlt handle Mario. I like the rating system, but I think that parents and retail should treat them (games) like movies. Parents pay more attention to R rated movies and some still ignore game ratings.
totally agree, I think the important thing is for parents to actually care. Protect them, teach them, expose them to great games! To many parents just don't give a crap and that is the real problem.
Games could cause violence (i dont see no evidence though) in kids but the games that could are age restricted for a reason. Parents blame the games for children being violent even though it is their faults for buying the games for the kids. parents don't like to blame themselves they like to blame other things for having a violent child even. ive got nothing against children gta as long as they are sensible but a parent shouldn't be allowed to blame videogames if they actually bought the game for the child. its like buying a porn video for a kid and then blaming it for their child getting pregnant even though they were the ones giving them the video.
that's the problem with society these days. we have the "don't be judgemental" mentality so beaten into our heads that we're afraid to call a spade a spade. i don't think these parents are worse than hitler, but they're definitely irresponsible and wilfully ignorant. if your kids are "seeing worse on tv" then you're irresponsible all the way around. put down the xanax and be a parent instead of your kids buddy.
father of 4 son's ages 9, 10, 16, 19; I have a pretty simple methodology for what I allow my kids to play. ( I am referring to my 9 and 10 year old). I stay informed through websites such as N4G, whenever possible I play the gamess, and ask if it were a movie would I let them watch it? Games with possible sexual ramifications are immediately added to the no play list as well as horror. I believe children should be allowed to remain children until they have to grow up; therefore, I am not going to force that on them through the desensitization effects that overtly adult themed entertainment could possibly engender. It's just not worth the risk to their emotional and mental development to me, and there are a myriad of fun and engaging games that do not contain prostitutes, crime, and brutal violence. Incendentally M rateed games are an Achievement Unlocked 16G for turning 16 in my house.
well said sir...bubble vote added.
Well said Redgehammer... +Bubble
If you sit down with your kid an play the game with them or watch them, that might not be as bad as just letting them play it all day. But I think its funny when a parent thinks their is no problem with their 8 year kid playing a game like GTA4, but after a day or so. They are back because the game had killing an wasn't suitable for a 8 year.
dont think theres any problem with buying a 12+ 18 rated game as long as they do not have any problems. As long as the parent has made them understand walking around with chainsaw and shooting 100 people to try and get there wanted level up is wrong and make sure they understand how drugs should be legalised then there pefectley fine to play 18+ games.
BRAVO! They hit the nail right on the head with these comments. Violent shows win awards, violent games are the most terrible thing ever. If you buy your kid these games and just let him play it you're an idiot. You must teach your children wrong from right.