Good things don’t usually come easy unless you’re Paris Hilton, like wise good things come to those who wait, and work hard, with enduring patience, to see their effort not only come to fruition, but also stand out amongst the crowd.
It shows. It's a great game and I'm having a blast playing it. Online and off. Can't wait for the co-op pack!
I went to the midnight launch. Love the game and it's great. Me and a bunch of my friends are having a great time rolling with our posse but this game needed another 6 months at least in the oven. It's glitching as hell!
I don't know if it needed another 6 months but it's definitely a great example of why large scale beta testing is necessary. I agree with you about free roam, that is a great innovation for multiplayer.
They definitely should have had a closed beta at least. But I am sure they will work things out shortly...
...really like single player, and multiplayer coop. I don't like competitive modes as much right now ONLY because I haven't unlocked the good stuff or better competitive modes yet :(
Uncharted 2 is like almost 2 years and is just as/or more awesome lol But I still enjoy red dead though, really fun, I have to admit I still play uncharted 2 online, still addicted :) edit* ooh wow why the disagree, cause I mention uncharted 2 the game that you can't play on your belove console that is sad indeed
*shakes fanboy spray* Go away.
is the co-op pack free ?? it should be
5 years and they couldn't optimize the PS3 version just a little bit more? But then again, Im not a developer so I dont really know what it takes to make a game of this caliber. Still, it's sad to see. Especially when other developers clearly have a better handle on the PS3 hardware...
This is the quality a game should have if it took 5 years to make it. What the heck was Remedy doing for the last 5 years?
Rockstar San Diego is a huge studio and the way Rockstar is structured means they have external studios like Rockstar Lincoln helping studios with development. San Diego already had an engine to work from, Remedy had to make one from the ground work and given how the game looked in 06 and how it does now, I wouldn't be surprised if they had to make a new one or heavily modify it midway in. Remedy only has 45 employees as of 2010, besides, you're making it sound like Alan Wake is somehow a horrible experience when it's a good game.
I'm not saying Alan Wake is horrible. It's a decent rental. However, when you consider the 5 year development time and massive hype from the media and fanboys you have to admit that the game was a disappointment. It was hyped to have the best graphics, even better than Uncharted 2 and failed and it was hyped to be GOTY and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it won't even be nominated by anyone. @Eleven6 Still, hardly the graphics king and GOTY game the fanboys hyped it to be. Since you brought up Metacritic, go look up any GOTY game and I'll assure you that no GOTY game has a Metascore in the low 80s. Uncharted 2, GTA 4, MGS4, Demon's Souls, Bioshock, LBP, and COD4 all have Metascores in the 90s.
Maybe 6 years and they wouldn't of butchered the PS3 version...;} Edit...AW is a great game...games like AW won't please everyone...The level of detail in ONE chapter of AW is more than most games have in their entirety...
The media did not hype the game to be an end all be all experience. And I don't count run of them mill sites on N4G as the media either since most of the are just in it for hits. Alan Wake as an 83 on Metacritic and some great scores from some very influential websites. http://www.metacritic.com/g...
FYI Hank, publications don't award GOTY based on what other people thought or what MetaCritic says, they base it on what that publication thought of the game. And why do you put so much into what fanboys say especially if it is ruining your enjoyment of a game like it seems to have done with Alan Wake?
@ HAnk Hill N4G fanboy hype is a little different than regular media hype.
I notice I play a game like Alan wake before it was on a nintendo game, it used the same torch light to kill monster lol I forgot the name I think it something mansion, Fack I forgot the name
I too felt Alan wake was disappointing, not as good in terms of story or gameplay as I expected. But, just remember one thing – remedy is a really small team, maybe 40 people. The cost of the game, even over 5 years of development, would be $25m, at most $30m. Red Dead would have a much bigger team (but I suspect much smaller than the GTA team) and would have cost maybe 50-60m, much more than competing games such as Just Cause
Five years to evolve into the blurry graphically gimped version that I expected. I wasn't dissappointed then! (tbh I was really)
I'm really amazed on how great that game turned out. Rockstar's really great at what they do!
I am just wondering will it take 5 years for news submitters to get the hint that this game is NOT available on the PC. The devs have stated that they have no plans to bring it to the PC so will you please keep RDR stories to xbox 360 and PS3 channels only. I know if PC news submitters started spamming the xbox and PS3 channels with news about Starcraft 2 no one would like it so the same goes for the PC channel.
From my experience, 2-3 years development time seems to be the best. If games take longer (Dragon Age Origins, Final Fantasy XIII, both 5+ years) they tend to suffer for it. Generally because long development times are the result of lack of direction, major difficulties/issues, or trying too hard to polish a turd, so to speak. RDR would appear to be an exception proving the rule. It is one imminently polished game. Though with 5 years of development, there shouldn't be any inferiority with the PS3 version.
I say it depends if it's 5 years including diddle dattle (deciding multiplatform or not, switching engines, etc) or 5 years of actual work.
rockstar always take a long time to make their games, the GTA games were around the same sort of time I think.
5 years.... for all the glitches and graphically oops we are seeing and the diff. between the versions I am surprised
But yet, you don't even acknowledge the scale of this game? Hmmm....
^ agreed...scale is as sandbox game is...but the graphical opps is there and is just unacceptable at times. last nite the mission where you have to get mining cart out of the mind...the cart was full..bring it out and its empty...and 2 more carts appear the mission had to be aborted it was wacked. - how about the empty corrals and as you get close, the livestock appear as if they were being beamed down - walk into a room, the wall is empty than a picture appears - worst one last nite is being able to stick your gun through a wall and kill the list is as large as the game's scale.. and lets not get into the diff. between the versions... I have a higher expectations for a finished product
I tend to agree with divideby0 a little here... This game is quite glitchy. I was playing the Poker in Armadillo last night, and the textures on my opponents character just wouldn't load- so I was looking at these ugly, blank canvasses. I'm loving the game, but there are alot of hitching issues like that that detract from it- add that to the fact I've got the PS3 version that has some serious frame rate issues from time to time, and lots of texture pop in. I know its not as detailed on an overall scale- but Just Cause 2 on PS3 is larger and has hardly any glitches that I've found- and its frame rate on PS3 is constant and smooth.
I actually have been a bit disappointed with the game. I wanted it to be so good, but since I picked it up yesterday I've been a little bored. The gunplay seems simplistic and there's a lot of just open land that you run though, but not in the Fallout 3 kind of way, just in an endless expanse of desert kind of way. I dunno, maybe I just need it to grow on me... Honestly, it just reminds me of how amazing Fallout 3 is, even today...
If YOU buy a game because somebody give the game a perfect 10 or a high score in metacritic... you are just a MoronGamer.
^ I agreed... and if you buy the game and afraid to comment on the games shortcomings because of what others might say...grow a set I read so many comments of those milk toast neutral gamers it just makes me LOL...they are afraid to comment the truth....
I think the term "development" is taken way to literally. I highly doubt the level of development was the same in year 5 as it was in year 1. Especially when you consider that GTA4 was released 2 years ago with 2 subsequent DLC packs.
RDR > GTA IV
Impressive, I can assure you Rockstar, your work paid off.