1UP writes: "Nintendo shows that "more of the same" doesn't have to be a bad thing"
This week is the perfect storm of videogames.
No matter what console you own you will be getting something high quality. sorry PC.......
Don't cry like a baby, play the game, beat if if you have to, then tell us what you think.
i'll remember that next time you review a 360 or ps3 exclusive, 1up. lets see if "more of the same" is ok with you guys then.
Some of you can save the crying for some other game franchise. You can't win against Mario. We can compare games in the same genres all day but when it comes to Mario...no other game is like it on the market. Stop lying to yourself. :)
Name another game outside of Galaxy that's even sort of like it. EEeeeehn, wrong answer...lol :)
ratchet and clank started as a platformer standard but evolved to a hybrid platformer, R&C has been doing Gravity and mini planets since PS2 days. Before Galaxy.
If it was any other game it would get slammed for being the same but mario gets a free pass again when gow3 does it, suddenly its bad but when mario does it omg so good the same old formula for 20years. Reviewers need to lose the nostalgia goggle's.
what can they say? It makes them feel like 1997 all over again. SMG games are great for the Wii, but when reviews are done these games aren't compared to the rest of the competition in gaming for sure.
How is this the same old formula? It's the same formula as galaxy, but not from 20 years ago that's for sure. Even though it's still Mario, they keep innovating and somehow manage to keep the franchise successful without giving it a taste of milk (milking the franchise).
Same core game play as 20 years ago it changed a little overtime.
So...you want a Mario FPS or what?
i only have super mario galaxy, new super mario bros, wii sports and wii play. :p time to plug-in my wii again. :p
Most ppl that argue that mario keeps "doing the same things" obviously have not played any mario's at all, and are basing it off first glance and first appearances in the store. Its just the same as the people that argue about Zelda being the same. I'm sorry, Mario's and Zelda's continuously change much more than most games these days that are within the platforming and adventure genre. Seriously people need to stop thinking that Mario's and Zeldas are the same as their Xbox360 and PS3 iterations of halo 1 and 2, uc1 and uc2... no... nintendo was never really like that with their first party games. Also you have to think how much a platformer can really change in innovation, the amount of ideas they pop up with in Mario is alot more than any other platformer game to date. Sure New Super Mario Bros Wii looks and feels the same as the old mario back in the 1980's, but if the people criticising it havn't fully played it, there is no point really arguing with those people, because they prefer to be ignorant basing an argument on "their" opinion that is not even substantial or credible. Sure the console war between xbox and ps3 is absolutely ruthless and debatable among reviewers, but im glad when it comes to mario and zelda's that these reviewers actually take time to play them, and see why nintendo hasn't lost its touch in its first party groups in what ALOT of other non-wii owners would like to think! Because most of the people saying Mario/Zelda is crap have never really played any generation of nintendo game after N64 only becos they actually really think Wii is for the non-hardcore gamer. People that argue "same old formula" should stop putting PS3 and Xbox360 "same old formula" with Nintendo's, because unfortunately Nintendo still has not lost its touch with their Mario's or their Zelda's wether its on Wii or NDS. Disclaimer: This does not imply Nintendo Wii shovelware(non first party games) are awesome, because they are actually as CRAP as most people seem to believe... blaaaargggh!
[I have played all of the Mario games] This is probably one of the best games on the Wii. That doesn't make it original. Long time gamers will always have an affinity for Mario but the formula hasn't changed in 30 titles. Get stars - Save the princess - Fight Bowser They are using the same run and jump animation from Mario 64, the music is the same, the enemies(for the most part) are the same, the characters are the same. Nintendo has slapped a 'New' Sticker on recycled toilet paper, and Wii fans are so starved for a good game they call it gold. No thanks Mario, not this time.
hmmmmm... so you saying in each subsequent release of mario the gameplay as in level design is the same? And you find the mario64 the exact same as mario galaxy? Okay friend, I respect your opinion, but to me the way the levels play out in galaxy are a big jump from mario 64, which are in turn a big jump from mario on snes, which in turn is different from mario 2 on nes, and jumpman in the arcades before it and so forth. Sure Ratchet and Clank first did the spherical world formula, but Mario made it exceptionally better with centres of gravity, making gameplay mechanics totally unique. If you are to look at what mario does, and the objectives you need to win(collect stars, powerup, jump, jump, and MORE jump), by all means you are right, it hasn't changed. But the way mario has evolved from a simple side scrolling platformer, to 3d, to now encompassing 360 gravitational gameplay. If you can't see the difference in evolutionary jumps like that, then please tell me a platforming game that has achieved this form of evolution and I will stand corrected. Also I havn't played mario galaxy 2, so im not sure, if it is exactly the same as number 1 so I can't really say. Maybe everyone is right saying it is EXACTLY the same, then it is justified, but before we can say if it really is the same or not, like gow3 is to gow2(GOW3 rocked and kicked major butt mind you), we really need to play it first. Sure you jump, collect stars, and kill bowser, but... the journey of getting there is always refreshingly new(except for new super mario bros wii and New super mario bros on nds). Mind you this is based on my own opinion, im not speaking out for others here.
@ rakunado (my comments are based on playing the game but not to completion) The mechanics and foundation are identical between mario64 and mario galaxy. And I don't see a big change in level design either. The drill feature in MG2 was in my opinion, the biggest inovation we have seen in the Mario universe and it is really fun to use - but as a package, MG2 is just another Mario game. It shouldn't be touted as a 'I've seen the light' miracle in gaming.
cheers mate, Thanks for the reply, I guess I will form my own opinion of when it gets released, but looking from the video reviews, it does seem to be very much like MG1. I'm kinda wishing though that it will blow my mind like MG1 did. But since MG1 has been there done that, can't see it from happening. Can't wait to see this drill feature you speak of. :D
Im willing to bet R&C crack in time added more new stuff then smg2. But still it got slammed for doing the same as R&C TOD but mario gets praised for it how is that in anyway fair?
Because, God forbid, no one will hate it due to their "special SNES" days. I had Mario way back then, I didn't like it.
You were in the minority Akagi, a very tiny minority.
No more heroes is just funny...the story is out of control...the game play is kinda boring, but so much random stuff happens...you will essentially play the game to see what random/outta place thing will happen next....and the ending is the most randomest/funniest ending I have seen in a long time http://www.articlesbase.com...
Its like HALO, Mario games always gets a free pass. People complain about Uncharted been the same but atleast the graphics looked awsome. If Mario gets a 10 then Uncharted should get perfect score. End of story. HALO review are the worst and the most inaccurate.
Are you the same Spiky from Gamepro.com? Around 2 years ago.
Folks really like to skew things. "GoW 3 got bashed for repetition, this didn't? This is getting bashed for repetition elsewhere. This is not the end-all review. Consider all the options. Too bad you can't, because so many people review games it's half impossible to see them all. But if you only pay attention to the "big" sites, then you're simply being ignorant when you say the word, "everyone." Please N4g commenters, try not to show your hind-end. It's not appealing. On subject, I fully plan to get, and enjoy Super Mario Galaxy 2. Just like I did the one before. Well worth the money I spent on it.
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