Rockstar Games' latest may be getting high marks from the gaming enthusiast press, but Red Dead Redemption doesn't seem to be as warmly received by Ireland's Evening Herald newspaper, which labels the game's Irish sot a "nasty surprise."
The article doesn't take exception to the use of the well wron Irish stereotype - I can't find any reference to a "nasty surprise" in it. The article simply states the presence of the character but makes no judgement on it and then goes on to repeat the $100 million development claim. r.
Hmm another brit that didn't bother to actually read the article which calls RDR 'groundbreaking'
He's not British, he's Irish. Doh. Here's how it breaks down Britain is: England, Scotland and Wales. The Ireland is a completely separate entity! Are you American by any chance? I'm just trying find an explaination for you lack of basic geographical knowledge! Actually Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom NOT Great Britain! The full title for the UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland all Her Territories and Dependents"
Northern Ireland is also Britain... just a detail. doesn't mean he's right though @ disagree i was just adding NI to his list, i think I hurt some cultural pride though: http://www.neilhair.com/wp-...
"Are you American by any chance? I'm just trying find an explanation for you lack of basic geographical knowledge! " LOL that is a goo....oh wait.... :(
@MovieScouse007 I think LarVanian is referring to Den_UK's original comment which read. "Another Paddy with a chip on his shoulder..sigh"
im from northern ireland.im extremely british. you could go anywhere in the uk and find that drinking is equally problematic in wales,scotland,england,NI and the south of ireland. let me describe a typical nite out on both islands..get pissed,fight have a kebab.its a pastime.except if your from london..then you do all that but still sound like a poofter. us brits can take a joke.stereotype or offensive.but if your fit enough to give it out,you better be fit enough to take it.thats the unsaid rule.that and the english cant handle the drink.thats why you only get the half measures of spirits in pubs.lmao.then riot!haha.
Umm could I just ask as to what the hell you are talking about? My original comment was directed at Den_UK, whose user-name implies that he is British. I have absolutely no idea what you were referring to. And for the record I am actually from Dublin, but I have been living in Derry, Northern Ireland for the past 9 years, so you didn't have to give me that pointless lecture, I know perfectly well what the UK is as well as my home country of Ireland. You think I have a lack of geographical knowledge? Well I think you are ignorant :)
Haha OWNED. Personally, I like the Irishman. But then again, I don't really have a reason to be offended, either.
I don't take any offense to Irish stereotypes..how could I with a user name like mine ;-) What I do take offense to is English people thinking they get a free pass with calling us "paddy" as if its less offensive than "nigger" or "packie", there is nothing endearing or playful about it..it's just plain derogatory. If you read the article you would see that the journalist briefly mentions the regrettable stereotype but he is hardly making an issue out of it.
I never refer to the irish as "paddys" i do pikeys though and i can say that coz i gotta few (well two brothers) irish stoner buddys, you should hear what they say 2 me, its all about give and take man People take things too personally, if the Muslims aint moanin the Jews are and if there not some other nation is, the only other country i can think of who dont seem to give a rats arse about other affairs are the Aussies, there the most laid people ever "just get on with it mate"
Indeed, racism & religion isn't resigned to just the different skin colours or religions of the world. Sadly the highlighted events make people thing that casual bigotry like that is 'ok' as long as they're not tossing certain words around. Hey folks, it's not the words that are bad, it's the history of their use and their semantics.
what i cant get over is that brits think the word paddy insults us. i call us paddys as every second irishman is called paddy. The other half are called mick. as for the drinking, you only live once so you might aswell live it to the full. if i wasnt a footballer id be with my mates in the pub every second night.
Nice stealth edit.
Well in fairness...Most of the people I know from ages 16-18 drink almost every week. So I agree with the sterotype. But when peoiple say stuff about my heritage then F*** that. I'll use all the sterotypes/race attacks I want against them. Edit--shi* I was first drunk when I was 12 then nearly every week from 15 onwards
I'm Irish and I hardly ever drink. I have only about 5 pints this year. Ireland does have a drinking culture but I don't like the sterotypes all that much.
I get what your saying. You don't drink but your still classed as a drunken Irish man. Sucks a good bit. I'm 18 now give me a few years and I doubt I will drink as much.
Yeah I got most my drinking urges out of my system between 14-19. Then I realized what a waste of money it was, and I just drink on special occasions or every 3 weeks. or might go down for one to the local with a friend of mine who i don't see as often as id like to. A lot of my friends still go out every weekend but I cant do that at all. Going out tonight mind you, friends birthday. Going to get sloshed! And then a bbq tomorrow... But I'm getting high for that. Ireland does have a boozing culture, and thats not a bad thing, just the majority of scumbags in this country ruin it and give it a bad image for everyone else. Same can be said for england, and of course the media are always going to show the bad side of things. I always love when things like that are in games though. I know its a stereotype and its based on some truth, so it don't get offended at all. I find ill enjoy the game a lot more. I would not have given the saboteur so much of my time if the lead character wasn't such a badly impersonated Irish man. and i loved the Irish-american family in gta iv. *edit* Woah first time posting in a while. why is everyone on 3 bubbles now? oh and one more thing, while drunken irish is a stereotype based on some truth as all stereotypes are, one thing I'd like to make a point of is how racist and close minded a lot of irish people are. Its a big problem in this country and its mostly from the typical crowd (scumbags/skangers/chavs/whate ver) but its the one thing that really annoys me about this country. Its more apparent in the older crowd too (my dad is a closet racist) so hopefully in the next 20 years the majority will be non racist, but in the mean time we are the minority
How many Irish people will actually care.. Really! In GTAIV an Irish family were a gang of bank robbers and murderers. Did they care then? Or was the Italian American stereotype more offensive in that one.
No crap. I totally agree. God forbid Rockstar use a stereotype in one of its games, LMAO, are u effing kidding me!
@1.6.1 Did you read the article? Or just the headline. The stereotype was just a minor thing to grab attention, or are you unaware of how the media and journalists tend to operate? He went on to praise the game. And is probably well aware of rockstars stereotyped characters.
The article's implying that there MIGHT be some controversy over this, so the title is a bit sensationalized.
The description is misleading. As an Irish edition of the paper says the game is good but they are disappointed as the game stereotyped the Irish character as the town drunk and the townspeople calling him Irish.
I've seen other drunken characters in RDR. every nationality has it's fair share of drunks.Hell, im scottish trust me I know. If anything I thought it made the game more believable
Im half swedish and I KNOW the swedes drink a LOT (especially in teh winter and mid-summar's party) I DON'T, but they do, and so what its culture if anyone says "HAHA look a drunk swede" I'LL LAUGH WITH THEM
I'm Irish and I'm drunk right now.
And I'm drunker than you are!
Give me a few hours
But now I'm just sh*tfaced.
So give me a second...
Ive been drunk for the past 400 years. nothing like a bit of aul poteen
LMAO now here's a man who has it all figured out. nothing wrong with drinking, hell you should hear some mexicans I know talk about drinking, it's like a religion to them.
Is that racist?
KFC = KKK
U.S.A associate Ireland with St. Patty's for starters, which is a big party (and people get drunk) im not irish, but i've met many and they all seemed proud of the fact that they are a "drinking culture" (nothing to do with proud of being drunks...because they are not, they just enjoy to drink) big deal over nothing imo
Its common knowledge that the Irish are p1ss heads, its not a stereotype or racist, just like its common knowledge that black people eat chicken rice and peas, like the English like to drink tea, like the chinese/Japanese have what one would call an "odd" cuisine and that the asians eat curry
By 'Odd cuisine' do you mean cat?
AND DOG :)
I love chicken rice and peas, drink tea every day, go to a chinese buffet about once a week, and drink all day long!
This, people, is the new world where we can all be stereotypes of everyone else. And love it.
So i take it you're Blackanese caucASIAN??
Would be sort of like someone complaining this game shows Americans as being stereotypical violent. There is always a nugget of truth in most stereotypes. The West was violent. Irish have been known to drink a good bit. end of story
in RDR look like me?? i might have a copyright claim !!
ORLY surprised they didnt make the tonw drunk native lolz
a whole can of whoop ass has been let out of the bag. CAN ANYONE JOIN IN. YEHAAAA im british. do i qualify.? he he many moons ago time far beyond our ages we once found certan country's and marked them as our own including america. but yet we gave that back to many countrys. and even thoe australia has a symble of our flag cos our queen is theres. many countrys second language is english.because we once founded alot of countrys. its true read about it.BUT DO I BANG ON SLANDER THE AMERICANS BECAUSE OF LAG WE GET IN MULTIPLAYER NOOOOO.i get angury at the servers not being world wide and letting us choose witch server to go on.EU NORTH AMERICA ECT. as for the irish im part irish .but i wouldnt visit irland as you cant settle any disputes theres always somert going on . but thats life most countrys got war some kind going on. but when comes to the crunch most countrys were it matter in some form or another come together to help out .like famin or iraq. So who ready for a chair over the head .wait need finish my half pint first. BY THE WAY I CANT FRIKKEN SPELL MAYBE IM PI**ED
I just signed in to tell you that your an idiot. That is all. Also, Im Irish and Im not offended by the stereotype. The newspaper that wrote that article are crap and nobody reads it so people in Ireland dont care about this story. Seriously.
I Liked Mr. Irish. xD He added a bit more comedy to the game.
As someone from Italian descent, I am equally offended by the italian stereotypes in GTA4. ok, NOT. ;-) Please people get over yourselves, and quit taking everything so personally. Some people go about their day looking for things to be offended by.
stereotypes are based on truth. something has to happen more often than not for it to become a stereotype.
Im irish and this doesnt bother me, only thing that really gets me is when people say "st.pattys", its st paddys!
N4G is a community of gamers posting and discussing the latest game news. It’s part of NewsBoiler, a network of social news sites covering today’s pop culture.