Do you own a Xbox 360 ? If so then theres a pretty good chance that your xbox 360 has failed once..
I own a 360 and I have to go with yes. Both questions answered. sorted.
Yes. MS rushed and didn't care for their customers. All they wanted was to gain a lead on Sony, but look at the cost. Perhaps, had they waited a year, the 360 would have been both more reliable and more advanced.
Does a faulty ANYTHING make it a bad buy? Um....DUH! Even after they "fixed" mine, it still sounds like a jet engine. And it doesn't help that the controller's battery pack comes loose and shuts the controller off every so often. Is it a bad buy? Heck yes.
"Does a faulty ANYTHING make it a bad buy? Um....DUH!" My first PS3 had to be replaced by Sony. Should I consider that a bad buy? Besides, let's be reasonable and stop being such fanboys. Can all of the people posting this flamebait post some numbers for 360s failure rate over the past year? Like let say since the PS3 Slim came out. It would be interesting to see that the latest version of the 360 failure rate looks like in comparison to the PS3 slim. Not, trying to bash anything, just wondering what those numbers look like. One other observation I have noticed, why is it whenever some good news comes out about the 360 whether it be a new game or maybe an article saying I don't know say "A RDR is running at a better rez on the 360 than the PS3" does it trigger a 360 failure rate or RROD article? "And it doesn't help that the controller's battery pack comes loose and shuts the controller off every so often." I have had my 360 since launch and I can say I have "NEVER" had my battery pack fall out. Here's some advice for you, stop getting pissed while playing game and throwing you sh!t across the room like a child and you pack will not come out inadvertantly. One last thing OrangeCow...A jet engine? You either are the biggest liar on the planet or you obviously don't know what a jet engine sounds like. Which one do you think it is, I already know the answer>
What did you have "fixed" that was supposed to make your xbox quieter? You do realize the disc spins at 12X speed, and that just loading the game onto the HDD virtually eliminates any disc spin sound.
not quite as much of a bad buy. There is no defending that when crap breaks it sucks. The extended warranty to fix e74 and rrod is an interesting way around a problem many manufactures DONT want to deal with. I have had my ps2 break just after 1 year and it cost me $$ to get it fixed. It was the common problem for the time of DRE. I even had the wii sound go out and it cost $70 to fix from nintendo and it was exactly 1 month to the year past the purchase date. My samsung 42" plasma (A450 series) video died 3 days to the year of the purchase date and yet I opted to buy the 5yr extended warranty from Fry's (which I NEVER do but something made me change my mind in this case) and instead of fixing it, Fry's replaced it with a newer model (B450 series). Manufacturers should just opt to make a standard warranty cover 3 years instead of 1 or in some cases 90 days from date of purchase. If a manufacturer really believes in their product then there is no reason they shouldnt stand behind it longer than the current warranty periods without inconveniencing the customer with fees and delays in repair/replace.
That's what really bugs me, that Microsoft lied about it for so long. If I had even the faintest glimmer of what a pain in the ass the 360 would be or how much money it would cost over the long run I wouldn't have touched the 360 with a ten foot poll. And HOC is right. The damn thing is loud. Maybe not jet engine loud, but it's loud. When the drive is running it's about the noise level of someone having a conversation in the room the entire time you're trying to play (60db or so). And you know what? I don't think the 360 was anything to write home about. I've always loved Halo and I really liked Gears of War but if I missed out on these two I wouldn't feel bad about it. After the price of my 360, the extended warranty (which I'm glad I had as Microsoft yanked me around with a disk scratching console they sent me as a replacement), the wi-fi, the extra controller, 2 play and charge kits, extra charge kits when mine stopped holding a charge, extra head sets and a couple of years worth of Xbox Live I'm over $900 that I spent on a console that I haven't been able to play for months at a time because of multiple failures. $900. On a console I'm afraid to play longer than 30 minutes at a time. Yes, I think the 360's failure rate makes it a bad buy. Edit: I just thought I'd mention, it was a bad buy for me. For most 360 owners who had no problems they probably love it to death, but there's no denying that for millions of us the 360 was a huge pain in the ass.
I decided to get a PS3 over a 360 because of the failure rate and the great library of games. I've had my PS3 for almost 2 years now, and I don't regret choosing it over the 360. My brother did get a 360 this past Christmas though, so I'm not missing out on any 360 games.
I certainly took the 360's failure rate into account when I was deciding between the 360 and PS3. I went with the PS3, but I'm intent on getting a 360 down the road, perhaps when the price drops and/or there is a more stable redesign (fingers crossed for a 360 Slim).
Me too =)
There are a bunch of games on 360 I want (Gears, Fable, Mass Effect, etc) but I could just never push myself to spending the money on it. Another price cut and I'll probably pick one up.
My friend's Xbox 360 crapped out on him a couple weeks ago. After having heard about the tragedy that is the RED RING OF DEATH, I was like, "NOOOOO!!!! Dude that really sucks, man. What are you going to do now? Are you going to buy PS3 for 350 bucks and try to forget about this horrible mess?" I said this to him because I've been told that this is the most financially responsible decision to make after getting the RROD, according to people on the internet. Rather surprisingly, my friend gave me this very weird look, like "WTF are you talking about dude?" I said, "well, since you got the RROD, what more can you do? I mean, you can send it in for repairs for 2 weeks, but according to the internet this is equivalent to getting shot and it's really bad, you know?" Again, my friend gave me this look like, "WTF is wrong with you?" Then, as I'm sitting there on the couch, he unscrewed the cover from his 360 with a screwdriver and started gluing some part of the inner components to another part of the board. He says to me, "Alright let's wait 30 minutes for this thing to dry." I say to him, "Man, you're delusional, man. This is the RROD, man. According to the guys on the net, this is it. It's over. All you can do now is buy a PS3, man." For a third time, he gives me this "WTF" look. Thirty minutes later, we're playing MW2, no problems. If there's anything I've learned from the incident, it's this. The people on the internet, and you know who you are, make such a big deal out of such a minor problem, just so they can have another bulletpoint on the lists of things they can use to trash talk a product they don't own. Finally, for those of you who consider yourselves hardcore gamers and electronic enthusiasts, complaining about RROD is kind of like complaining about getting a flat tire. It's so laughable. My friend, who barely graduated from high school, who isn't any kind of tech aficionado, fixed the RROD on his console in ten minutes. When I see articles like this, it makes me sigh. Again, it's like listening to someone complaining about getting a flat tire. EDIT: And it might just be another reason to complain about Microsoft. But that falls outside of the realm of gaming, and into the realm of business practices. People, if you say you're worried about getting RROD, just search youtube and you'll find a ton of vids that explain how to fix the problem, and no, not with a towel. The total cost of fixing the RROD to the consumer is 4 dollars.
Kaveti- Bubbles dude! My friend got RROD last year and he fixed it in 30-40 minutes with an instructional video from youtube. @Below- So uve never had a console that broke? WOW...lucky u. Both my PS2 and Xbox broke years ago. I expect the same thing to happen to my PS3 in a year or so. Every console breaks at some point.
u paid for the console.. its just not suppose to break on u, DUH
Sorry you have only one bubble Kaveti. Bubbling you up. BTW, you make it sound like RROD is a very easy to fix problem. I dont think thats in general the case, most people are afraid of messing with electronic devices, more so when you can void your warranty.
Seriously, regardless of your friend being able to fix it himself, a piece of technology should NEVER have a failure rate this high. I love how everyone just accepts this low quality. It's just more reason for Microsoft to not give a damn next gen and rush it again. Good luck to you I say. I will not support poor quality, and I'm surprised so many people are willing to be herded into the corral. Edit: I just canceled out raztad's bubble increase because you don't deserve it with nonsense like this.
Unreal. Your friend didnt have the RROD. He just had a diffrent type of failure. The RROD is IMPOSSIBLE to permantly fix. You dont even know what actually happens inside the console to make it fail, so logicly, you shouldnt even comment on the situation. You might be able to fix the RROD for a few hours or a few days, but there is no permanant fix. When your consoles failure rate was over 70%, I think there might a bit of a problem. A flat tire? A flat tire would be like breaking a controller, the whole console is like blowin your engine. Ignorance is bliss, so you must be one happy SOB.
If It's so easy to fix one must wonder why doesn't MS fix it?
"The people on the internet, and you know who you are, make such a big deal out of such a minor problem" Anyone who calls the RROD a "minor problem" inflated by the internet is ignorant. If the fix were that simple for everyone it would EASILY have been fixed by now.
even MS the multi-billion $$$ company cannot fix this RROD problem, but your friend can fix it in 30 minutes? *giving you the WTF look*
"According to the guys on the net, this is it. It's over" = IF it's on The Internet, It Must be TRUE.... lol
@Kaveti Welcome to the internet, I will be your guide today.
So you're fine with your 360 breaking down again and again? Imagine if it didnt break down at all, isnt that much better? To compare it to a flat tire, wouldnt you be pissed off at makers of the tires? Wouldnt you stop buying their defective products?
Its not just the 360, but there is also the YLOD for the PS3. I have 2 PS3s that I fixed sitting in each of my kids rooms. I also have a launch 60gb sitting downstairs at the tv room. Edit: RayRay, a fixed RROD can last a lot longer than a couple of days. I have 2 360s that have been working for months.
i agreed and bubbled. RROD is pretty bad but you get it fixed for free at least. i had to fix my PS3's disc drive the other week, not quite the same but each consoles got its problems, though the PS3 IS less. i just prefer the PS3's games and if you prefer the 360's games RROD shouldnt really stop you.
It should at least be a serious consideration, at least it was for me. I have one now after putting it off for years, but I'm still nervous. Anyone purchasing anything of significant cost should check into the reliability of the product. It's common sense for a consumer. Does it make it a bad buy? I would argue that it's subjective to the person. I knew as much as any average consumer could possibly know about the history of the box prior to my purchase and I have fun with it. So if it breaks I'll have to weigh the bad with the good and determine that at the time. It's certainly not a purchase without risk. -CadDad
I had planned on buying a 360 since it cost less, but decided first to research what console was the better buy, came accross N4G eventually, That was all she wrote, bought the PS3 Instead, reliability always gets points in my eyes.
I only own PS3 and I will buy a second PS3 for another room in my home before ever buying a 360. I don't want to waste money on something that will die on me and I don't want to be forced into paying anually just to play online.
i own both.13 months after i bought my xbox it red ringed.i sent it away to get fixed (free of charge).it took 2 weeks.and during that time i bought cod4 for the ps3 and played it online.i couldnt get my xbox back quick enough. and i couldnt be the only one that thinks like that.regardless of hardware issues,xbl still maintains and grows its current userbase. reliability is 1 thing.but you know your xbox will probably break.but u also know that you can get it fixed for free after 1 year.not so much with sony.after that 1 year warranty,your coughing up more than the price of an xbox arcade.£130 at least.even if my xbox wasnt coverd,i know i could buy a cheap arcade and just swap harddrives. if my ps3 died tomorrow,would i buy another? probably not.blu-ray players are cheap now.and thats just about all i use it for. im not trollin.but if you guys cant handle my honest opinion..then thats your problem! my xbox has broke once.that was almost 4 years ago
if the only issue here is 3RLs, and that issue has a 3yr warranty, then im confident that at the end of your 3 yrs, MS will have something new coming out, and you'll be looking forward to buying that, instead of worrying what going to happen to your 360 while its outside of that warranty. Not to mention its pretty cheap to buy a 360 nowadays. You dont even need to buy a 360 HDD anymore, just use a USB flashdrive or ext HDD. I dont think its a bad idea at all.
I first bought a 360 before a PS3 because they were cheaper, 3 years I have had it now, broken 5 times, no joke. Had it under warranty until the last time it cost $100. Sold it and bought a PS3.
lol...sniffs like damage control BUT you definitely should be on more than 1 bub +1
Well that's a "no $hit" kind of question.