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Valve wants PS3 “open like a Mac,” not “closed like a Gamecube”

Scrawl: "Half-Life and Portal developer Valve would like to see Sony’s PlayStation 3 console become “more open like a mac” rather than “more closed like a Gamecube”, explained company CEO Gabe Newell in a recent interview with 5BY5."

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PirateThom2651d ago

Trying to make sense of this....

Pending....

Failed.

blitz06232651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

It means exactly what people think of them. They're too lazy to learn how to develop for the PS3.

And they call themselves developers. Pathetic.

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Anon19742651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

Seriously. What the hell is Gabe going on about? "We need to target platforms that do a better job of looking like where we want to be in a few years."

So you want the PS3 to do a better job looking like where you want to go? Maybe we should start calling Gabe the Bus Driver. Hell, maybe he should be the one heading up Sony's game division! Here's the wheel, Gabe! Take Sony where you think Valve's going!

What arrogance. I like Valve. I think they make some great games but I remember when they teamed up with ATI and suddenly Nvidia cards weren't good enough to run your games when every other developer out there seemed to be able to get their software to work on both cards just fine. Valve was founded by people who cut their teeth on Microsoft of the late 80's and early 90's and it's clear from their business practices after that they certainly learned a thing or two about anticompetitive practices while they made their millions. At the end of the day this was a company that was founded by Microsoft millionaires and Valve has made it very clear in the past they have no issue screwing over one company to protect their business partners. Maybe Valve will change one day, but not as long as Gabe Newell is at it's head.

SullyDrake2651d ago

I started typing a reply and realized it wasn't worth the effort.

jjohan352651d ago

This is the most funny/ridiculous statement from him yet. Why did he not say PC or iPhone, but MAC??? LOL.

harrisk9542651d ago

"Those who have not accomplished sometimes deride those who have."

I guess you are channeling Steve Jobs with that comment?

FYI, people are entitled to make observations when it comes to public figures and companies that make public comments. If every other company can develop for the PS3 (albeit some better than others), then logically Valve does not want to develop (or can't) for one of the following reasons:

1. They are too lazy (Possible)
2. They are not smart enough (not likely)
3. They just don't like the PS3 (Probable)
4. MS is paying them not to develop for the PS3 (not likely)
5. They don't want to spend the resources (dumb considering the large and expanding PS3 user base).

UltraNova2651d ago

Gabe STFU already!Jesus every time I hear his name is like someone is forcing 20 cheeseburgers down my throat! Disgusting!

Where is the 360 going that the ps3 isnt, huh Gabe?

This guy is surely paid more than Aaron Greenberg to bash the ps3. When Aaron finds about this he will be pissed!

Ok we get it, dont ever develop for the ps3 and move on with your life!

Jesus Christ!

DERKADER2651d ago

You guys realize that Gabe gets his kicks from reading angry Sony Fanboy comments. Your just feeding his weird sexual fantasies. OR is he feeding your fantasies...

despair2651d ago

wait wasn't there a report that Portal works like crap on the MAC? hmm.

HolyOrangeCows2651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

"We need to target platforms that do a better job of looking like where we want to be in a few years."
Bi-annual expansion packs dressed as sequels?

"So you want the PS3 to do a better job looking like where you want to go? Maybe we should start calling Gabe the Bus Driver. Hell, maybe he should be the one heading up Sony's game division! Here's the wheel, Gabe! Take Sony where you think Valve's going!
What arrogance. I like Valve. I think they make some great games but I remember when they teamed up with ATI and suddenly Nvidia cards weren't good enough to run your games when every other developer out there seemed to be able to get their software to work on both cards just fine"
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-SIXAXIS-2651d ago

@despair: I have Portal on both Mac and PC. It runs slightly better on PC, but the Mac version is definitely okay. It ran smooth as silk for me with an average of 60+ frames using my 2008 MacBook Pro.

gaffyh2651d ago

I don't get why he said Mac, isn't it quite a closed off platform? Wouldn't it have made more sense if he said Linux or even Windows???

beardpapa2651d ago

Maybe instead of reading articles talk fud about a port using a hackintosh, you should actually try out the darn game on an actual Mac. Like above said, it runs quite smooth. it's not as crisp as portal on my pc few years ago, but on my mbp it runs very smoothly.

beardpapa2651d ago

iPhone os is quite closed. Osx not so much.

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barom2651d ago

For those that didn't watch the interview and are bashing Gabe ignorantly with stuff like "stfu already". Gabe Newell REALLY did not want to touch on the topic of PS3, and even though he could've avoided it he did not seem wanting to disrespect the interviewers.

On a side note, I'll mention that Gabe actually said Sony was going in the right direction. So there you go. I'll suggest you guys (who bashes so blindly) should start to go straight to the source when you hear something so illogical as this article's title, it'll usually give you a much better perspective on what the interviewee meant (although not in this case, still makes no sense).

zag2651d ago

I think he/Valve don't want to spend the money in case the PS3 falls out of the market.

The openness of the mac could be about the Mac running windows software straight up rather than messing around so maybe want Sony to allow the running of xbox games on the PS3 straight up.

Overall though, it'd probably be better for them to just say they make PC only games and hand off the xbox port to other companies and be done with it all rather than keep trying to look like someone at valve gives a s * * t about the PS3, overall.

darkmurder2650d ago

Lol Mac - open

Ahh Gabe you crack me up.

UltraNova2650d ago (Edited 2650d ago )

'Where is the 360 going that the ps3 isnt, huh Gabe?'

That is a quote from my post above. It shows one out of two things.

Either YOU didn't read the actual interview cause if you did you would know that the quote above could only been posted if you read the actual interview or your feelings were 'hurt' because I said something that everybody else is thinking about your friend Gabe.

Common even I loved Valve but the fact of the matter is that as long as it is under this douches control, this great company is reduced to nothing but fanboy shit.

badz1492650d ago

comparing a mac (computer) to the PS3.....maybe all the cholesterol is climbing to his brain by now! that is the only explanation for this dumb statement! stop eating those burgers and start working out a bit you dumbass!

barom2650d ago

@UltraNova

Uhm, how does that quote say anything about the interview. Anyone with a dedicated fanboy mind like you could've written that within a second. In fact, that is what you would've written if you were an ignorant fanboy like you. You just proved my point. Seriously, think about what you're writing for a minute or two will you.

Oh and btw, I hate Valve.

UltraNova2650d ago

LOL! you crack me up! You are so obsessed with the word fanboy that I am sure its your favorite word!

When you get older, I'd say 15, lets talk again.

BTW I didnt prove anything you said.

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playstation_clan2651d ago

what language is this article in?

Kurylo3d2651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

Im not quite sure what valve is saying either cause mac is not open at all.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO2651d ago

¿More Open like Mac?

I don't understand.

If he is talking about Sony and Apple. Apple is more closed than Sony.

Game13a13y2650d ago

Valve and 360 are perfect match to each other, both fat and unwanted.

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deadreckoning6662651d ago ShowReplies(7)
mookins2651d ago

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I got nothing.

What the hell ARE they talking about?

They should just admit they hate the PS3, hate Sony and be done with it already. I think everyone knows they hate the hardware already so why try to make up excuses that make NO logical sense?

mookins2651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

Did I say it was a problem? I just said that if they hate the PS3 and Sony so much, then develop on the platforms they wish to develop on and stop making bullshit excuses.

If Valve hates Sony and the PS3, then stop mentioning it. End of story.

Are you feeling alright? Did you even try to understand the point I was making here?

....I guess not because I don't even know what you're trying to say either. :/

edit: I think you need to step away from defending Valve for a bit because once again you're not making any sense whatsoever. I understand Valve wants to work on the 360 and PC only. But *why* do they insist on making one stupid comment after the next about the PS3?

Gabe Newell is a disgrace to their company.

raptorjacob2651d ago

@ deadreckoning. it would be a problem if they didn't like the ps3 because they are talking negatively about the ps3. They are making it look like sony is the problem and not their assumptions about the ps3.

They could just say ps3 is not something we want to develop for because our future is not in that direction. Instead they are talking mumbo jumbo.

mastiffchild2651d ago

@deadreckoning666-Nobody is doubting Valve as a developer. No one has ever done that over all their outbursts regarding Sony, PS3 AND PS3 gamers. the reason they get people's back's up(and you don't have to have been an industry figure to have a right to an opinion. I never tried being racist to see how much fun it was offending people but I still know not to do it and have every right to feel it's totally wrong even if no one was ever racist TO me either.

Similar thing here. we can judge Valve by comparison with other devs and companies in similar positions. Insomniac and Ted Price aren't reviled by any of the 360 community even though they don't make games for them. Why? Because they haven't badmouthed anyone or anything from a position of relative ignorance. Had they said things about the 360 and it's gamers like Valve and Gabe have about Sony/PS3 gamers without making a game on said platform they'd get exactly the same grief thwat Gabe and Valve get. Fact is Gabe has a HEAVY MS history and as such should be careful about what he says as his comments are bound to be seen a certain way. Appearing to side with MS is going to illicit responses like: "Well, he would say that wouldn't he?".It puts in a bad position.

If Ted Price, with his long Sony history did similar to 360 he'd be ion the same boat but he didn't and when asked about why his company has stayed exclusive to PS3 stated the truth and only the truth about enjoying the relationship he and his company have with Sony. The question, really, is why have Valve and Gabe not taken the same approach and gone out of their way to appear unprofessional over all this? Personally, having played their(Valve's) recent games on both PC and 360 I wish they'd not make any console games AT ALL until they're prepared to put the same care and features and quality into them as they do on PC.

Valve make great games but given their comparatively weak console output and complete lack of knowledge of what it takes to make a good game on PS3 they'd have been best staying quiet.

Zeevious2651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

Other companies have faced the unique programming challenges and succeeded...Why has only Valve had such a vocal and consistent failure with this hardware?

Multi-processor hardware WAS unique years ago, and are now as common as every computer for sale. Who's fault is it that Valve never bothered to learn the new processing methods? I'm tired of hearing this company's constant whining over how very very hard all them big bad processors are. they never seem to complain about the multi-threaded model on the 360 . . . So what's the argument? What's the problem?

Every time I hear one of their rants on the Cell & PS3 all I hear is every single word coming through as a synonym for INCOMPETENT!

Valve...SHUT UP and hire programmers who learned from something whose title doesn't start with "Compleat Idiots Guide To..."

http://artclips.free.fr/IMA...

solidjun52651d ago

You lying troll. Oh here's how big of a hypocrite you are. You say "Who cares" and yet spout about saying anything you want. Just be gone you loser.