Submitted by Godmars290 1965d ago | rumor

Xbox 360 Final Fantasy Versus XIII Under Consideration

As reported at Impress Watch, when asked if it would be best to give Versus a multiplatform release on Xbox 360, Wada replied "We'll be looking into it internally until right before the formal announcement." (Dev, Final Fantasy XV, PS3, Square Enix, Xbox 360)

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vgn24  +   1965d ago
Of course it is. EVERY third party game, from Gears of War to Metal Gear is always under consideration for a crossover. It's about money. This is a business. Fanboys don't run these companies, businessmen do. If it is feasible, "IF", then it'll happen.
GWAVE  +   1965d ago | Well said
So, "yes, it will be multiplatform, but there will be no performance drop or cuts to the gameplay! I promise! I promise!"

When will people stop taking SE seriously? Their company is a joke run by half-drunk mules at this point.
deafwing  +   1965d ago
LOl @ "half drunk mules"
how did you even think to type that.
Akagi  +   1965d ago
Post-2000, what good has SE done? Really?
StanLee  +   1965d ago
The internet will explode if or when this is announced.
PS360_37   1965d ago | Trolling | show
gaffyh  +   1965d ago
It probably will end up going multiplat and then end up looking blocky in parts like FF13 (seriously, look at the FINGERS). I hope it stays exclusive, but I'll get the game either way.
nix  +   1965d ago
i don't mind as long as it doesn't gimp the PS3 version.
hay  +   1965d ago
@Akagi: The World Ends With You and FF12 for me.

If it'll go on Box this time I'll download it and then buy if it's lesser cr*p than FF13.
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Darrius Cole  +   1965d ago

If it goes multi-platform then it is going to gimp the PS3 version. Just the same way that being multi-platform gimped the FFXIII.


The thing is I don't think being multi-platform is going to increase the overall sales. FF13 sold about 850,000 units on 360. I am convinced that it would have sold at least 1 million more units on PS3 if it were exclusive.

Pure fan-ism would have been worth an extra million copies. If it(FF13) had allowed the PS3's advantages to actually improve the game it would have sold more than an extra million. A PS3-exclusive FF13 would have done things like leaving the cities and towns in the game, being open-world from the beginning, putting English and Japanese soundtracks and subtitles on every disc, all because it would still have space on the Blu-ray disc. Moveover it would not have nerfed the graphics from the original vision and trailers because PS3 are able to produce better graphics. Those differences alone would have meant better ratings and better sales.

Being multi-platform doesn't always help a game sell more. Actually going multi-platform late in the marketing of a game actually makes it sell worse I believe. You piss of fans who were expecting an exclusive, and you nerf the game for the lowest common denominator; so they never turn-out as good as they were expected to be.


On top of all that above, FF13 got no marketing on PS3 in the western hemisphere. All of the FF13 marketing in the US and Europe had 360 logos in it.

All these thing added together convince me that FF13 sales numbers got no significant benefit from being multi-plat instead of PS3 exclusive.

1. The game was lesser than it would have been if it were PS3 exclusive.
2. The PS3 version of the game got no marketing in the US or Europe.
3. Much of the game's natural fan-base, PS3 owners in the US, were insulted because the game went multi-platform....in a way to designed to create maximum shock value, I might add.

Need more bubbles...the more I write, more material I think of, the more convince I become.
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Brewski007  +   1965d ago
These guys let this information slip out there so they get offers from both microsoft and sony. Microsoft used all their big bucks to get xiii and now an announcement like this just baits them to do the same again. While it also baits sony to pay up more for exclusivity rights.
This is just a smart business tactic from some suits i think.
Droid Smasha   1965d ago | Trolling | show
mikeslemonade  +   1965d ago
Square Enix is freaking garbage I'm not buying this or FFXIII. Versus 13 is going to be gimped.

As far as Microsoft strategy they obviously payed Square Enix so they can make it multiplatform. The multiplatform prevents 360-only console owners that are Square Enix fans to go out and buy a PS3.
Redempteur  +   1965d ago
When SE is using the assets of a console , the game is sure to be something ...

The world ends with you ( ds )
FF the cristal bearers ( a technical marvel on wii IMO )
Dissidia ( psp )

And so on ...

Se is at his best when they try to exploit the console they are devellopping on .. Going multiplat is wrong and will affect the game it self IMO ...
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kalebgray92  +   1965d ago
square has just fallen off this gen
cuz they gave the finger to playstation... the plattform that made them from great developers to legendary.... they just go after money now... which im not blaming them for it... it is a business but they lack the motivation to make the greatest games of all time like they did with ffvii, ffx, and kingdom hearts... yeah i said it kingdom hearts ....... but since 2004 ill say.... they just said screw you playstation... now ff versus xiii is supposed to be the next 7 or 10 but if they comprimise the ps3 version and actually go multiplatt the same will happen to ff that happened to 13.... make it an ok game
JAMurida  +   1965d ago
lol, if FFXIII Versus is announced to come on the 360, WW3 will break out.

But really I don't mind as long as they don't cut content or leave out extras that were original planned to make both versions "equal".
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Christopher  +   1965d ago
***If it goes multi-platform then it is going to gimp the PS3 version. Just the same way that being multi-platform gimped the FFXIII. ***

And 99% of the customer base won't even tell the difference, and Square Enix knows that.
CryWolf  +   1965d ago
If Square Enix take FFXIII Versus multiplatform were going to lose gameplay/high quality graphics and didn't they already take 1GB of gameplay from 360 version of Final fantasy 13, I remember reading about on this web site where's the irony at.
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Luzce  +   1965d ago
@ cgoodno
Regardless if they can tell the difference or not, people pay for the better quality. How many people do you think can tell the difference between 720p and a 1080p? Nevertheless, many of those people that can't tell pay for the 1080p set. How many people can tell the difference between Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Master Audio? Not many, but people pay for it.

Apart from it being... awesome, I believe this is why GOW3 sold so well. People believed it was the "best looking game". So I'll agree with Darrius Cole, gimping the PS3 version of FFXIII to make a 360 port would possibly hurt more than help the sales of the game.

But then again my opinion doesn't matter and they'll do whatever they want.
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Ninja-Sama  +   1965d ago
Looks like I'm gonna rent versus, or borrow it from a friend.
Millah  +   1965d ago
Do people honestly even care about versus at this point? Honestly, who gives a fuck about anything square enix does anymore, they've shown their true colors and intentions with ff13 and every other recent game of theirs. They don't care about making the best jrpg in the business anymore, all they care about is making the most money. So honestly, I would almost guarantee that this will probably be brought to 360 as well, and the game will turn into some shitty Japanese hack and slash type game and not a true action jrpg..
RageAgainstTheMShine  +   1964d ago
Microsoft No Swiping!
Microsoft No Swiping!

Blaine  +   1964d ago
That's exactly how I feel about Capcom this gen. They used to be almighty during the PS2 era, until they turned around and spat in Sony's face.

I haven't bought a single game of theirs this gen. DMC4 wasn't even close to living up to the series' original; Lost Planet looks good in internet videos but is actually an excruciatingly average game; Bionic Commando, Dark Void, lol; and Dead Rising which was 360 exclusive in its first installment (to name a few).

Capcom and SE both went the way of the $$$, and I have no respect for them anymore. A coincidence that their games suck? I don't think so. And, to anyone who would want to argue with me that their games don't suck, consider how amazing their games used to be and compare with what they are now (and imagine what they could/should be).
bakasora  +   1964d ago
sc rew you wada.
Jamie Foxx  +   1965d ago
gimped game again confirmed, if it happens
..harsh but true
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Redrum059  +   1965d ago
Yet, another game gimped... I hope nomura has something to say about this.
ShinMaster  +   1965d ago
Nomura was always willing to keep the game as PS3 exclusive. Even reassured his dev team that the code would stay as it is.

But unfortunately, he doesn't run SquareEnix. So nothing's for sure.
Theonik  +   1965d ago
Nomura did threaten SE taht he would quit if Versus also went multiplat. That is why it hasn't been announced so far. I don't think SE will risk it after the FFXIII 360 sales.
APOFISBORICUA  +   1964d ago
not because it is on the 360, just because Square has lost it. The game is not as good as previous RPGS no matter you are a fanboy of whatever console. Versus for me is going to be the same and it may end being a multiplatform game because as somebody said: "third party exclusives are almost dead". Its up to first party studios to show us what the console they work has to offer, and in this category MS lost no matter how many FF or MGS they get. So to me I dont give a $hit if it goes multiplatform because Im not going to buy it. The same way I didnt bougth FF13.
Look at what happened to Red Dead Redemption...3 years after Rstar started to work on GTA4 and they used the same sub HD engine on the PS3. This is disrespectfull that they even took the time to at least make it on par with the 360 engine. That only means that everybody wants money...and the easier way to get it the better. Thats why the Wii has lots of shovelware and we PS3 players have bad ports and 360 owners are proud they have "stole" the games we made famous...I really dont care!!. You can keep FF versus too if you want, that doesnt change the fact that my best gaming comes from PS3 exclusives.

Abash  +   1965d ago
If it happens
2012 release confirmed -_-
Etseix  +   1965d ago
haha u wish! it will be a 2013+ release ;] ... crap
Das_Bastardion  +   1965d ago
No surprise
But c´mon if this stupid japanese whore makes it multiplat... it will turn just like FF 13... REALLY bad thanks to the limitations of the Xbox
BeaArthur  +   1965d ago
I like the way people like you blame the Xbox every time a game doesn't meet your expectations. FF13 was going to be a very similar game whether it was on the 360 or not. The 360 version wasn't even announced until multiple years after production started.
corneliuscrust  +   1965d ago
FF13 didn't need 360 to be terrible
Sure, 360 got a worse looking version... the game still looks great. Too bad it is a terrible game to playthrough.. let alone more than once.

I am still waiting for a good FFVI remake...psp, ds, HD, whatever. Bring back FF to the good old days.
Milamber  +   1965d ago
The Xbox version was just a lousy port of a PS game; FFXIII's execution on the PS3 would have been the same with or without said port. They made better FF's on hardware far, far inferior to the 360 so it's silly to blame hardware limitations for FFXIII's failings.
Luzce  +   1965d ago
Why all the disagrees with the above posts? Nothing wrong there... seems like N4G users are saying "All PS3 exclusive are awesome, all multi-plats suck".

It's possible to make a crappy game, no matter what console you are on. Yes, it's possible to have a crappy PS3 exclusive. (Release day Lair anyone?)
vhero  +   1965d ago
They got one ff out on 360 to get all the FF fans 360 was gonna get MS dont need to pump more money into SE for another game as it won't sell any more consoles.
Hellsvacancy  +   1965d ago
MS will, just to get one over on Sony
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booni3  +   1965d ago
So like
am i the only one who thinks that maybe FFXIII just wasnt that good of a game and thats why it sucked?
ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1965d ago
Another Gimp version.

It will sell more for PS3.
catguykyou  +   1965d ago
They don't need FFXIII to sell more consoles. The people who would bought the game for 360/ bought XIII version console will prob purchase Versus XIII as well. It's really up to square. They now know about what they can sell if they take that path again.
With that information they can rationalize which choice is better for the direction they want to take. At the end of the day, SE can't make games if they aren't making a profit on the games they are selling.
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freeblue  +   1965d ago
the moment verus announced mutliplaf, is the moment i cancel my pre-order. not becuase i wont' buy. I'll for ps3. knowing what ff13 turned out to be.. it will not worth the full price for me. I'll wait for it to drop to 30.
Nike  +   1965d ago
You're telling me you pre-ordered the game, not seeing any gameplay footage whatsoever? And you're going to cancel that pre-order only because it could be (as in, "hard to tell") multi-platform? And then you'll still buy it? And you don't even have a pre-order to begin with?!

(Head explodes)
catguykyou  +   1965d ago
Multiplat didnt kill XIII. Trying to make the game appeal to a greater audience, working with a new engine, and new consoles is what *changed FFXIII. Versus XIII should be a lot more than what XIII was in terms of what people were hoping XIII would include.

*changed = didn't mean the game was bad, just not what people expected a game to play like with the FF title.
sikbeta  +   1965d ago

True, but SE better don't Push hard cos it'll make Real FF Players Mad and they'll without of doubt Show the Finger, no-1 will stand another Lame FF game ala FF13


This got nothing to with Being Multilat, the point is, we're Expecting the BEST FF, so if they can't deal with 2 versions and everything end up like FF13, people will feel disappointed
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vgn24  +   1965d ago
Because if I remember correctly, they didn't go out of business after jumping from SNES to PSone. The hardcores followed. And FF XIII is this generations VIII.
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Godmars290  +   1965d ago
When they made the move from SNES to PS1 there were marked improvements to how they presented much less told a story.

Going multiplatform, openly endorsing the 360 while still making games for the PS3, bringing no notable improvements, has only brought stigmas to their rep.
Nike  +   1965d ago
Yeah, I voted this "hard to tell" for a reason.

"If" is a perfect one-word answer because it masks an infinite number of variables.

But man, some people (commenting below) are really taking this hard. o.O

Also, I find it funny how people are saying SE can't handle two versions of the same game. Didn't hear any complaints when FFXIII and Versus XIII were both exclusive to PS3 about SE perhaps not being able to handle both of those games at once. How you felt about playing FFXIII (which I have not) is purely one's own opinion, as always.
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OmarJA-N4G  +   1965d ago
Go a head Square Enix, ruin the game.
PMR_21  +   1965d ago
bpac123456789  +   1965d ago
Here we go again...
There goes any chance of this being a truly great game. Square Enix isn't going to put the type of effort it takes to make this an excellent game across both platforms. I wish it would stay PS3 exclusive so they don't have to compromise quality by working on two systems, but I guess money rules the world...
Commander TK  +   1965d ago
SE, when will u give a guy a break?
Commander TK  +   1965d ago
There goes
SE´s chance of coming back to mainstream. Hope Nomura is against this.
catguykyou  +   1965d ago
I've said this before and I'll say it again. If this goes multi-plat, you will see an angry group of people claiming that the stuff shown so far was all in game (primarily talking about the cgi shown) and that the game as it will look at the time is dumbed down because of it going multiplat (because it will be compared to the original cgi footage).

If it goes multiplat, whatever. They have already said the game will have a world map, air ships, etc etc so it will already be way more expansive than XIII. Ill buy it for whichever system it looks/runs better on which will prob be the PS3 since XIII uses the same engine.
Jab-dees-nuts  +   1965d ago
If it goes multi-plat i wont get it
I dont have a problem with 360 getting versus, my problem lies when SE tries to dumb the ps3 version so that the 360 doesnt redring. Sorry to say fanboys but Xbox sucks in terms of hardware and we (ps3 owners) have to suffer. If they go multi plat and dumb it down ill see to it to tell everyone i know that the game is a failure much like FFXIII.
8thnightvolley  +   1965d ago
hahahahahha this is funnny.. i need my popcorn BADLY.!!!
Christopher  +   1965d ago
With how well FFXIII did on the 360, I don't see why they wouldn't go multiplatform with all of their releases outside of Japan.

PS3 Sales outside of Japan: ~2m
360 Sales outside of Japan: ~1.3m

Keeping it on PS3 in Japan will result in killer sales there, but putting it out on 360 in Europe and America will result in a lot of additional profit. Especially since they already have the engines set-up for doing parallel development.
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Eamon  +   1965d ago
It's amazing how this is just a rumour yet there's over 160 comments.

Even professional articles don't get this much!
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kratos123  +   1965d ago
@Darrius Cole
ill help you man
this is the total sale at the moment
360: 1.29m
and here it comes guys
ps3 :4.00m
look at the difference my god man why would you even put the effort to make this title multiplatform and anger your fanbase just why
and dont give my the lame argument the 360 version didnt come out in japan here ask yourself this is the 360 selling in japan
answer a big no no
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Christopher  +   1965d ago
It doesn't matter the percentage of difference, what matters is the potential for additional profit. 1.3 million additional sales is all about profit and more than enough to justify a 360 release of their future AAA titles outside of Japan. Japan will remain exclusive to the PS3 because of the dominant market there, but comparing the ~2 million sales on the PS3 outside of Japan to the ~1.3 million on the 360, there's more than enough reason to extend your customer base by going multiplatform.
kratos123  +   1965d ago
but why would you want to hourt your fanbase at this moment if this is treu i will only support SE with my psp thats the only thing they got right this gen everything else is just meeh or garbage and also why make 360 exclusief and not 1 ps3 they now it would sell more on ps3 just answer that qeustion and i will be happy
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Christopher  +   1965d ago
Not sure I understand your full question, but let me answer what I can:

***but why would you want to hourt your fanbase at this moment***

Xbox 360 sold to 1.3 million users outside of Japan. Taking into account the recently reported sales of 5.5 million worldwide, you're talking about cutting off 20% of the fanbase by going just PS3 exclusive worldwide.

***why make 360 exclusief and not 1 ps3***

Nothing about making any game platform exclusive except for all FF games just for the PS3 in Japan since the 360 market is extremely small in comparison in Japan.

***it would sell more on ps3***

Worldwide, yes. But, take out Japan and it would likely sell at least half as many as the PS3 version. Why? Because of the current dominance of the Xbox 360 in the market, especially in the second largest FF market, the U.S.


The point here is that it's a sound business decision that leads to higher profit potential to take it multiplatform outside of Japan.
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Darrius Cole  +   1965d ago
You can't ignore the fact effect of exclusive marketing for the 360 version. The exact effect it would have had is unknowable however, we know that marketing is signficant.

You also can't ignore the effect of releasing the game withing one week of God of War III's release, something that would not have happened had the game been a PS3 exclusive.

What is also real but unknowable is the effect that the multi-plat announcement (and the way it was announced) has on the PS3 fans.

Lastly there is the effect that the multi-plat development has on the game quality and the effect that the quality has on the sales.

All these things work in favor of the 360 as much as possible and if they were any different would have resulted in higher PS3 sales and lower 360.
JAMurida  +   1965d ago

I still wonder though how many more would of sold on PS3 if FFXIII was still exclusive. When FFXIII was advertised it only showed MS's 360 logo on it, so the people out there who don't know what system it will come on would go for 360, as well with them making a 360 bundle for FFXIII. But even with the exclusive advertisement, the PS3 version still sold more, even when SE decided to tell the world at the last two hours before release that FFXIV beta code would be on the PS3 version, (which I think was a low move on them announcing this in the LAST two hours before release). So, IMO, I don't think the 360 version sold that well, seeing to how it had exclusive advertisement and still sold less then PS3.

Regardless though I'm sure it was profit for SE, so I wouldn't be surprise to see XIII versus go multiplat. Like I said above though, I just hope they don't cut content or what not to make both versions "equal".
kratos123  +   1965d ago
like the people above my have stated the only reason it sold that well was because first of all it sold next the god of war 3 and 360 had exclusief advertising in eu and us hmmmmm why did it sell sooo oke in eu and us this is trully hurting my brain
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   1964d ago
Simple Math
Fanbase =/= Fanboys
colonel179  +   1965d ago
if something gets me upset about this
is that right after they announced FFXIII for 360 they released a trailer of FFversusXIII saying FOR PLAYSTATION 3 ONLY WORLDWIDE, then, after some time, they released another trailer saying, EXCLUSIVE FOR PLAYSTATION 3 WORLDWIDE.

I just don´t know how this POS Wada has the balls to be this cynical. This guy deserves to rot just like Bobby Kotick
Heisenberg  +   1965d ago
Oh well, I don't really care anymore
After the crap they've been putting out, SE's gonna have to convince me they can even make a decent RPG again before I would even consider buying another FF. Eat a dîck Wada, ya greedy prîck.
TechnicalBS  +   1965d ago
If SE decides to release versus on the 360, more power to them.
Alvadr  +   1965d ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dont do it Mr Square-Enix
Hallmark Moment  +   1965d ago
Well we all know it's coming. It will be revealed at E3. The developers are just trying to break the ice getting people use to the idea.

Dam you can feel the wind changing due to E3/Natal/game changer
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UltraNova  +   1965d ago
After FF13 I dont care about SE's games anymore let them do what ever they want.

I would even suggest them to make it multi-platform because people are beginning to realize their steep downhill course from 2000 until today and they need to cater to as many people possible just to make sure they make the development money back.
topdawg122  +   1965d ago
It will happen for sure, but honestly my hype died for this game a long time ago.... Square Enix sucks now.
RageAgainstTheMShine  +   1964d ago
Microsoft No Swiping!
Microsoft No Swiping!

Oh, man!
JonnyBadfinger  +   1964d ago
Im just in here for the lols... i never liked any of the Final Fantasy games... then again i have never played them, only watched... but still not slightly interested.

Oh no could it possibly be that Sony fanboys are about to lose an exclusive?...OH NO hell must have actually froze over...

Seriously whether a game is multiplat or not, it shouldnt effect your love for the franchise.

I couldnt give a rats arse if Gears or Halo went multiplat... so why would the PS3 community care if the worst jrpg of all time went mutliplat?
UltraNova  +   1964d ago
Maybe because Versus was SE's last chance to actually make a good FF game if it was exclusive?
Viper7  +   1964d ago
people should not take these "this game is exclusive to *insert system here" things seriously. We all saw how exclusive games Star Ocean4, Final fantasy XIII where. There are probably far more examples than these.
Pozzle  +   1965d ago
Sad to say, I saw this coming.
Nomura might have wanted it to stay PS3 exclusive, but in the end, it's the big bosses of Squre Enix who get the final say.
zetsuei1  +   1965d ago
Sad enough
If FXIII was still exclusive, we would have have japanese voice acting (which IMHO is way better than the english dub)at launch, which would make the game much more interesting for hundreds of people.

I have at least three friends that are waiting for a International version to come out (with no hope) and then buy this game.Imagine how many people out there is in the same condition.

Square Enix is going to make the same mistake, which is dumb, RPG in this generation is a genre with minor public which have a better history in Playstation consoles, making at least timed exclusive will make people to not lose interest in the game cuz believe it or not, when it come to fanboys (huge part of hardcore gamers) when a game its not exclusive they don't even care about the game anymore.

Just give a look on how many people just gave a rent on FFXIII instead of buying.
BeaArthur  +   1965d ago
That's what Square Enix cares about, the hundreds that missed out on the Japanese voice acting.
Cold 2000  +   1965d ago
Um I'm not sure a lot of people out there are fanboyish enough to skip on a FF just because its multi and SE knows that

5.5 million already for FF13 http://www.videogamer.com/n...

I dont think fanboy anger is of the slightest problem for SE.
Myze  +   1965d ago
Nomura may not have the final say on paper, but they sure don't want to make him mad. After all, SE has already lost a lot of the big developers that helped make their companies great, and as stupid as Wada has proven himself to be, I think he knows not to piss off the few big names he has left. Of course, that might be giving him too much credit.
Gabe EatsWell  +   1965d ago
Oh please no. Just keep it exclusive so it wont get delayed just like XIII.
bobdog626  +   1965d ago
they can keep that one
Just keep making good shooters for the Xbox and let the PS3 have versus.They don't sell very well 0n the 360 anyway's
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Heaven_Or_Hell  +   1965d ago
Sony could always make an arangement ...
GWAVE  +   1965d ago
And SE could always back out of it...

I could be mistaken, but I believe Sony helped fund/develop the tools used for FF13, and look how that turned out.

The REAL question is if this game will even be good. Every passing month and every new SE game makes me lose a bit more of my faith in them.
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k jules  +   1965d ago
bu bu bu
Sony doesn't pay for exclusivity.

In all honesty this should indeed stay exclusive for PS3
sikbeta  +   1965d ago
That's Why Games went Multiplat this Gen, not a lost, cos this Gen Sequels were All Crap, i.e RE5
ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1965d ago
Xbox 360 format get the gimped versions and that is why PS3 is not even getting full potential with multiplatforms.
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Disccordia  +   1965d ago
Sony would rather spend money on their own games as well as taking a slice of SE profits from a multiplatform release due to the 8.25% they own in that company ;)
stonecold1  +   1965d ago
i dont think it will
come because sony will have this locked downand since the 360 held the other game back i dont think nomura would want his games down graded like final fantasy 13 and i hear he would quit square if that happened
Pozzle  +   1965d ago
Would Square care if he quit though? Hell, they let Hironobu Sakaguchi (the CREATOR of Final Fantasy) go, after he ballsed-up with Spirits Within. Despite the fact he was still writing phenomenal game plots, they still did nothing to hold onto him.

Then there's that whole "quitting your job is dishonourable" viewpoint many big Japanese businesses still hold. That's probably why they were willing to let Sakaguchi go in the first place. 'Better to let him look bad by stepping down, than to make the company look bad by firing a legend.'
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Da One  +   1965d ago
You know they paid for FFXIII
and SE still screwed them over right, Sony is better off without SE.

Dear Nomura

good luck
Gun_Senshi  +   1965d ago
lol no way
If Versus goes Multiplatform, Nomura will leave Square-Enix.

That will spell the end of SE
Applegate  +   1965d ago
Nobody is that much of a fanboy...lol. He wont leave just because of that.
eggbert  +   1965d ago
If he leaves
it wouldn't be because he is a sony fanboy. Sakaguichi left long ago because the heads of SE weren't listening to him at all, and were approving things behind his back.

I don't think he would actually quit, but he'd be pretty pissed at SE for messing with his game. If Nomura left, what does SE have left though? I'm not even sure.
Gun_Senshi  +   1965d ago
He said it himself. Versus stayed Exclusive when FFXIII got Multiplatform because Nomura threatened wada to leave
Etseix  +   1965d ago
Nomura is the only one i trust from Square Enix....
Optical_Matrix  +   1965d ago
Oh god please no. Is it too much to ask for an FF game that can technically rival games like God of War III and Uncharted 2. This isn't me being a fanboy of Sony, but as someone who's used to seeing FF games push system boundaries like they always have, I want to see what SE can do if left to work only on PS3.
Myze  +   1965d ago
Well, FFXIII may not have been the best game ever made, but it is, without a doubt, (on the ps3) the best looking RPG ever made. The game was beautiful, even if it did look even better before, in the demo. Although, I agree it wasn't on par with GoW3 or UC2, so I would like to see how much of a difference it would make if they kept the game exclusive.
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NYC_Gamer  +   1965d ago
well its third party so it should be multiplat,people shouldnt care long as u can buy it for the console of ur choice.
Godmars290  +   1965d ago
Except people - well, me anyway - are looking to see what can be done in regards to a JRPG on the PS3 on the level of GOW3 or UC2. What kind of game you could get with focused effort.

Despite being the leading JRPG dev, Square is showing that they're incapable of producing that needed focus. That its up to Level-5. Atlus and NIS.

But the sad thing is, in the past Square had a rep for bringing out the most they could from one platform. They set the benchmark on the SNES and PS1, the PS2, for what a JRPG needed to be.

And note I said "had." All they do now is make excuses nowadays.
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NYC_Gamer  +   1965d ago
yes but thats why sony has 21 first party studios because they know third party exclusives are heading into the grave..which is fair because i would love to have mass effect on the ps3 since bioware is 3rd party
MechaGear  +   1965d ago
as long as you don't care for quality.
"multiplatform" will allways carry around the weaknesses of "both" systems.
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theone26  +   1965d ago
VsXIII would only stay exclusive if Sony is paying SE like M$ is paying Epic.
pinkyxyz  +   1965d ago
actually sony doesn't have to pay
since their the 4th largest shareholder in Square-Enix

koehler83  +   1965d ago
After FFXIII, I don't think anyone really cares.
Jack Klugman  +   1965d ago
Who didn't see this coming?
square would be stupid not to release it on the 360 as ffxiii proved. Yeah it might not have sold as much as the PS3 due to Japan but it sold well.
saint_john_paul_ii  +   1965d ago
sure, lets put profits ahead of game quality SE...
Lirky  +   1965d ago
long live atlus.
dalibor  +   1965d ago
I just got Demons Soul and cannot wait to pop it in. Glad I supported Atlus. And I do hope Versus will in fact be awesome but time will tell.
Noctis Aftermath  +   1965d ago
@dalibor: you just got demon's souls? lol have fun, and remember not to give up after a few dozen deaths!
MechaGear  +   1965d ago
Can you see them stripping content already...
WMW  +   1965d ago
i guess ff13 failing so bad on the 360 in every way didn't teach them anything.
Chaos Striker  +   1965d ago
I don't know about that. Selling ~1.3M copies is a pretty solid feat for being a console that does not cater towards the JRPGers. Since they have the tech running on both platforms, I don't see how SquareEnix wouldn't take this opportunity...this is a business after all (goal: strive to increase shareholder wealth)
saint_john_paul_ii  +   1965d ago
thats what happens when you advertise as if the game is a 360 exclusive, you get 1.3 million knuckleheads which possibly %50 percent of them didnt knew that the game was not only on the PS3, but it plays better on the PS3.
WMW  +   1965d ago
selling 1.3 mil means nothing since the 360 had all the advertising and a larger install base on the 360 but sold far less. no matter how people spin it ff13 failed badly on the 360. also if you want to talk about being a business SE should of stuck with were their fans were releasing it on the 360 i bet they lost potential buyers because they thought it would be gimped.
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Chaos Striker  +   1965d ago
I disagree. Selling about 1/3 the total lifetime sales of FF13 on 360 isn't a failure. And 1/3 is a big number considering the amount of additional profit they can generate from being multiplatform.

Also, they did not lose potential buyers (obviously you don't understand how business ventures work). Rather, they gained access to a whole new market...isn't that what businesses want? A larger install base to cater to equates to greater potential profits.

We can also examine this from a "Real Options" standpoint (if you know what that is). They spend some money (I assume the cost = the revenue from 750k copies of the game) porting the game to the 360. So, they profited with revenue from the additional 550k sold. This also had the "unquantifiable" effect of awareness on the 360 and the potential for repeat + new customers based on the first game (we are disregarding if it sucks or not because that is a matter of opinion). IF they did not sell enough copies to recuperate the costs, then they still had nothing to lose (based on rumors that Microsoft paid for some of the development). Their exposure is minimal and you can deem this as a disproved hypothesis.

As you can see, experimenting with FF13 on 360 was worth the risk on SquareEnix's part, because they can accurately gauge the market potential and "real options" available as a result.

***Also, anyone who disagrees with my comment above care to try and disapprove this one?***
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Disccordia  +   1965d ago
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Japan 1.91m, Americas 0.98m, Others 1.11m
Total 4m

Final Fantasy XIII (360)
Japan 0.00, Americas 0.71m, Others 0.58m
Total 1.29m
8thnightvolley  +   1965d ago
regardless 1.29 mil for an introduction JRPG to the 360 demographic is still a good number and it will increase now the title has recognition.
TwistedMetal  +   1965d ago
ff 13 sucked becuase it went multi.
make ff versus 13 multi and it will be rated a 8.1 or lower metacritic like ff 13. Not only that but the x360 version will suck.
Pozzle  +   1965d ago
I hate to say it, but FFXIII going multi wasn't all of its problems. Some of the game design choices were just...bizarre. Not quite the epic it could have been :(
Bodyboarder_VGamer  +   1965d ago
Some of the game design choices could've been bad because of limitations on either console and the fact that both version have to be equal.

Example: What if Devs wanted to take advantage of blu-ray? That means more discs have to be included for the other console = more money so they just scrap the idea and gimp both versions.
Dellis  +   1965d ago
If you guys didn't noticed, FF13 going multi didn't work
well for MS nor SE, the game sold more on PS3 even thought it never had a PS3 commercial in the USA.

The game was basically a 360 exclusive to any casual out there don't look for games, ESPN showed the first ever trailer about the 360 version and that was the only commercial ever on TV.
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slimy the g8ter  +   1965d ago
hes just talking ish...
this wont happen at all.maybe will but doubtful.its like just if someone asked me if i like men and i shrugged my shoulders they will infer that im gay.typical dumba$$ website
NYC_Gamer  +   1965d ago
c'mon people we cant have double standards alot of us ps3 owners would like to have mass effect 2 but complain that ff13vs might go multi which it should because its third party
SephireX  +   1965d ago
This is ridiculous. I'm sick of the 360 holding games back. I know its just a rumour but most rumours become reality. From a business standpoint, it is the best option for Square but as a gamer, I will be very disappointed if it does happen. Nomura said that it was an open world game. If that is true, how could it be possible on the 360 unless it is no greater than a DVD9 disc, which is extremely unlikely. An open-world game means being able to travel back to locations at earlier points in the game at a stage much later on. That couldn't be done on the 360 without switching discs between places which would be irritating. I hope it doesn't happen but it likely will.
Wolf873  +   1965d ago
Wouldn't be surprised if at E3,
they drop another shocker that Versus is coming to 360, but does it really matter at this point? I have actually grown out of this exclusivity factor, doesn't do much for us really.
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nepeon  +   1965d ago
I left Square soft years back when they left Nintendo cos I knew they were going down hill after that and the father of ff left years back and is making the last story, also xenoblade will be better then this crap. So long SE fuakers!
Noctis Aftermath  +   1965d ago
Leaving nintendo was the best decision they made, cartridges were and still are way to limited, moving from cartridges to CD was a huge step forward in progression, but dropping exclusive blu-ray usage for multiplatform development with DVD9 is regression and it's pretty obvious that somewhere the quality has to suffer because of it.
nepeon  +   1965d ago
LOL I don't care
for them any more. Yes I agree with you on cartridges verses cd but the only thing they had focused on putting on to those cd was CGI movies that you couldn't play. Also looking how they are dropping blu-ray exclusive to making dvd9 pretty much goes to say if I lied about agreeing with you on cartridges vs Cd where they are operating backwards to be limited by using dvd9. Limited my ass, its all about what a game developer knows how to make games and knows how to fit data onto something that is limited to make it big to the player when they play the game knowing how big the game is and then know they have done it on limited software. Any way what ever SE in my eyes are dead and right now I'm enjoying MHTri a series that I have followed and its good not to be a fanboy of systems because at the end of the day its the fans that get fuaked by staying exclusive to a system and knowing their game won't be on their system any more. Live your life and don't be a grudger!
SilverSlug  +   1965d ago
The consideration is if
MS is willing to pay enough. Most likely, not. They only seem to care about is having the franchise, don't know if they care about a side game as much.

I'm sure if Microsoft dropped 70 million dollars on the laps of Square Enix, they will put up a quick and sloppy port (The engine is now capable of doing that) and keep on posting profit reports.
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saimcheeda  +   1965d ago
Here we go again
RageAgainstTheMShine  +   1965d ago
Xbox is just a copy-cat, trying hard to be a PlayStation and that is the sincerest form of flattery?
I don't think so.

And I don't know how to call it.
Shame. Shame. Shame.
Dlacy13g  +   1965d ago
copy cat?
You are funny...

I dont suppose you consider "move" to be a straight up copy cat of the Wii mote do you? No ofcourse you don't. You probably think the combination of the camera makes it totally unique and like nothing the world has seen before.

Lastly, how can you diss the character of Kratos with that Anime Dragon Ball abomination? To that I say SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
PS360_37  +   1965d ago
Soon to be X-Game Chat?
Pennywise  +   1965d ago
Netflix, Facebook? Are you serious? PS3 has had an internet browser since day 1. Both of those "features" have always been available on the PS3.
Oner  +   1965d ago
Additionally Trophies were also on some PS1 titles & Move started on PS2...trolls only see what they want. Not the factual truth that is proven to be correct.
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PS360_37  +   1965d ago

If you could use facebook and netflix on the browser then why did they make them standalone features? Coincidentally released right after the 360 version.

Oner: If trophies were around why weren't they included on the 1st huge release for the PS3...MGS4? There were no trophies for any game b4 MS came up with achievements.

And how the heck can you say Move was started on the PS2? You mean the Eye Toy which failed miserable, or do you mean the Wiimote copied motion controllers that were announced 3 years after the Wii came out?
Pennywise  +   1965d ago
If you could use facebook and netflix on the browser then why did they make them standalone feature
Convenience? Are you calling me a liar? I have been using those features since I bought my PS3 in 2007. Don't try to troll me.

Anything you can do, I can do better.... la la la la la lalalalaaaa.
Karum  +   1965d ago
I think Move is taking what the Wii started and evolving it.

The control scheme is pretty much the same, it's Sony's version of a Wii-Mote alright, I remember thinking to myself when I saw it "how are Sony not being sued by Nintendo right now?"

It's the same as every good idea though, someone takes the original good idea and improves on it. Which imo there is nothing wrong with.

Similarly, although I hate how MS are rarely an original idea company, I can understand why they want to have all the franchises traditionally associated with a Playstation on their console. It's a big draw for people to buy their console, they make sure you can get as many of the big 3rd party franchises as possible and also try to offer something else to differentiate itself from the competition. In MS' case it's mainly LIVE and their price point.

The main thing they are missing at this point is top quality 1st party developed games.


Facebook wasn't made a standalone feature as such, what they did was add in trophy integration. Facebook, twitter and a bunch of other stuff like Hulu were all possible on the PS3 long before things like Netflix and Facebook/Twitter appeared on LIVE.

See the videos above my comment for the concepts of Move, years ago.
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Oner  +   1965d ago
Thank You Kane_1371 for the video proof. I was going to link to them but thought they weren't needed and know I see I was wrong for not doing so/including them for the doubters and or trolls. Here is also the additional proof about the PS1's "trophy/achievements" ; that were called "skill points" back in 1998 ~

Spyro - Year of the Dragon

Now to also add more info about other companies having "achievements/trophies&qu ot; before MS what about Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64? It had almost the same thing as Spyro where it rewarded players who completed goals with guns, cheats & special modes? Seems like an "achievement/trophy" to me.

Also before I forget what about Avatar's vs Mii's? Is that not a ripoff? Not too mention how PS Home had avatars before the 360! Plus you can take it a bit further and go all the way back to the early PS2 days (or even earlier with Sony's MMORPGs)...the truth is there but as I always say ~ Trolls only see what they want. Not the factual truth that is PROVEN to be correct.
Dlacy13g  +   1965d ago
But, but, but .....
Stop crying fanboy...get over it. 3rd party and multiplatform go hand in hand these days. No "exclusive" 3rd party game should ever be thought to stay exclusive no matter what is said.
DA_SHREDDER  +   1965d ago
I bought FF13 day one for the ps3, and couldn't even make it through half way cause I was just so disgusted what they have turned my beloved franchise into. Its bad enough that Dragon Warrior has turned into an DS/Wii kiddy type of game. That game was one of the most hardcore rpg's of all time and now its full of game card monster card game trading piece of crap. If FF versus suffers the same fate Im considering Squeenix DOA.
pinkyxyz  +   1965d ago
if it does im done with square this gen
im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but considering how disappointed i was in ff13, I don't think that tetsyou nomura can work his magic while trying to support 2 consoles simultaniously. All of his games have been classics because as a director he only had to focus on 1 platform, which meant that he could use every trick the machine had to offer while not having to worry about if 2 versions looked the same. final fantasy multiplatform = fail. PROVEN FACT!!
Rucury  +   1965d ago
Oh god, no.
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