Lost Planet 2 and Resident Evil 5 producer Jun Takeuchi says that unless the Japanese games industry catches up to their Western counterparts, they don’t have a "hope in hell."
yeah and hes doing a fine job ruining it too lol how ironic. sega is the best japanese devolpers at this moment and platinum games is also wonderful this gen
hahaha. Oh man that is so true and funny. I would put Atlus in there as well.
oh my god how did i forget about atlus im so stupid
... they are to blame for it!! With their DLC scams and all... Stuff on the disc then in launch day charge us for a activation key. And then they come and complain its doomed.... ROFL!!
Yeah, I agree. This idiot is leading the charge into the ocean, whereas there are actually good Japanese developers who aren't selling as many of their games because it isn't called "Resident Evil".
And to think, RE5 was more passable than Lost Planet 2, IMHO. So this joker has actually taken a step back from one game to the next. The number of bone-headed decisions that went into LP2 blow my mind. And this is the guy doing the complaining?! WTF! Pot. Kettle. Black.
I totally agree with the first part of your comment. The Japanese gaming industry will pick up, I'm pretty sure, and paired with their mastery of storytelling will give the western industry a run for their money quite soon. I also agree partly with the second part of your comment. The only problem is that Sega's performance is horribly plagued by the performance of their western counterpart, Sega West. While Sega is one of the best publishers/developers in Japan, Sega West is without a doubt the worst publisher/developer in the west. Sega Japan should give Sega West a radical overhaul and cleanse it from every little reminiscence of the influence of that blight that was Simon Jeffery. Sega West wasn't in good shape before him, and he completely sunk it with his ideas of making it a 100% "westernized" company.
stick to your roots and you'll see that it's not dead.
the japanese market is doomed because all they buy there is handheld crap.
damn if all RPG games that release like every week was in console, i ll be very happy :D, but all of them are in handheld.
"Lost Planet 2 and Resident Evil 5 producer Jun Takeuchi says ...." Question; does anyone REALLY care what anyone who was involved in the making of these two degradations to their series has to say? "Drastically innovative ideas are needed – and quickly – to equal or exceed the Western games industry" This is such an ironic statement, I won't even justify it with response.
Just because his game bombed doesn't mean every one elses will.
The guy talking about JGI "da doomedz" is involved in the Production of a BAD Sequel that ruined an Awesome Franchise I always think, why they didn't make RE5 like the Old School RE Games, which were more Appealing to the Japanese market and other Markets as well instead of making a generic western-style-shooter so crappy
Makes you wonder doesn't it? It's like they took the old saying, "Do one thing and do it better than anybody" and somehow (mis)interpreted it as, "Do a bunch of things that are out of your comfort zone and do a piss poor job at pretty much all of them".
Here is the true problem. They want to make fps and they are trying innovate tech designed for fps. As developers they don't really understand why westerns like fps and will never be able to out do cod games and epic. Seriously they just don't understand pc gaming and they totally have abandon their console roots and engines. I really wonder if this is a case of the grass being greener or is it production envy. I mean seriously it doesnt seem like they want to put effort into their games and their American arms are even worst. It really does seem like they are feed up because they didn't get a free pass like epic and bungie and iw for their ok fps games. You actualy have to be good at the type of games you produce. If you can't play some of the western fps and get ranked real high then when you make a game it's going to cater to your skill set. Now what is even more funny is they put them selves in the tech race when that is not what consoles are for. The pc guys are eating japans lunch because their is no language barrier and epic along with others simply will call up the chip manufactures. From what I've seen professional tech guys in japan guard their knoledge yet they simply don't have too much say so in how tech is made now. The tech race is the reason pc gaming hardly has any developers. Japan abandon their own fans and they western fans yet we don't buy clones of fps we buy new spins mostly. They have two choices go high end pc or go back to the wii and find your franchise then move it to hd when it is ready or needed. Make a hit on the wii make the sequel for the next gen nintendo console and the other hd systems and your back in the game. The west is running out of heavy hitters because every thing is being milked, you'll see.
@ kratos123 platinum games is also wonderful this gen , thats why capcom sucks today becouse the guys that are platinum games , where ones the best developers at capcom .
Lets see Japan has 127+ million people and Europe has 830+ million and US has 309+ million and China has 1.3+ billion. Also the Chinese hate the Japanese as well as the Koreans hate the Japanese for what Japan has done to them in the past. Rape, pillage, torture, kidnap, etc. The fact is that quite a few of the Asian Countries hate Japan and that won't subside anytime soon. So you take 127 million and have to divide that between Nintendo and sony and then take 2.5 BILLION and now you know why the Japanese devs are looking more WESTWARD. 2.5 Billion Potential customers or 127 million. The problem with Jgames is that they haven't innovated in a LONG time. It is pretty much the same rehash with shinier new graphics. Well when the PC devs moved to console gaming, it changed the whole playing field as back in the day they only competition Jdevs had was within themselves. Now they have the Wdevs garnering a lot of their marketshare so they need to rethink their strategy. Now just because RE5 catered to a more Western audience doesn't make it a bad game. Now we wish the good things in the past to stay the same forever but it can't. The world is constantly evolving as the demographics. So much more competition now than in the past. Companies need to step up their A game or get lost as a distant memory.
many japanese devs lack creativity
I am thinking the opposite. Whether you like western or Japanese games more, you gotta admit the japanese devs are the ones keep creating creative games like VC, last guardian, persona etc.
They do have creative games. I personally think World of Goo and LBP are much more creative then any of those games you listed. Plus World of Goo is an indy game.
How is VC new? It is a jsrpg and how many of those games do they make? A ton! I can name at leat 20 this gen that are jsrpg (Japanese Strategy Role Playing Game). As for Last Guardian, nothing new so far, pretty much ICO with shinier graphics. The problem is that the "Nintendo" kids all grew up. They can't invest all that time into traditional jrpgs as they have college, school or work. So what do they have time to play, shooters. It is much easier and beneficial for them to play a game for a couple of hours because they have families, and other obligations. We no longer have time for marathon gaming sessions. I am speaking for majority but I know there are some that will lack personal hygiene and kids and work, etc, to cater to their gaming habits, but that won't last long. Something will break . . .
katamari,okami, and patapon are the most original titles i've ever played aside from LBP.
It's kind of Ironic you say that "Japanese Devs Lack Creativity" In This Specific Generation Plagued with SHOOTERS
Most successful Japanese games this gen have been mostly games in which are generally sequels of older franchises. That's not a bad thing but if you compare the vast originality and creativity that has been this gen regarding the western market, then it sort of shows a huge imbalance between markets. Im still looking forward for sequels to old franchises like GT5 for example, and I am also looking forward for what Team Ico has in stored for there latest IP, but other than this the rest seems dull.
Good point, I actually havent seen a new IP this generation from a Japanese developer that blew me away. Not even Nintendo for Christ's sake. I dont expect anything less than a masterpiece from team ICO, though.
Resident Evil 5 Producer Says Japanese Game Industry is Doomed" lmafao say the creator of worst re ever!
Well PD is about to drop an atomic bomb being GT5.. Just takes effort PD always get it done.
Are really the only decent Japanese devs. Capcom is just trash. PD is also good. The best devs usually come from America. Take example, Naughty Dog.
im gonna disagree with you here because of this moment the eu is taking the lead
The Lost Planet 2 demo was beyond garbage. Need to make better games dude...unless you want to be part of the problem.
Capcom can fold up for all I care. They haven't made one memorable game this gen. SF4 was average if you ask me. Even though that was their best game.
first you destroyed RE series with RE5 and now u are talking about Japaneese Game Industry ? how funny ?
RE series was destroyed with RE4, no matter how many people liked it.
but i have to admit i enjoyed RE2 more than any RE.. peace
I agree, they're lame action games now.
Japan's not dominating the console space like they were in the 90's. But that's not because they have fallen behind. It's because the great Western developers moved from PC to consoles.
I think they got fucked up when they were swayed into believing XBox's low development bar was the key to the riches. Bitches
The last guardian is going to change this closed minded narrow perspective. Team ICO now has a fanbase that can make a statement with its buying power. Creative, inspirational, original, japanese game design is still around.
I thought all games whether made by East or West have been sucking this gen. The best gen is still PS1 era.
what have you been playing, im having a blast
RE5 sucked!!! yea i said it big whoop wanna fight bout it.
...to come up with ideas for good games while you have a big load of budget to produce such greatness? Japanese people were suppossed to be smart and creative...well at least they were like 10 years ago. EDIT: just talkin about most of jap devs of course.
It's hard to understand until you try to make a game. Before the programmer olny had to deal with 2d graphics. Now they have to catch up with people who can test out code on higher tech and compare the difference and write better code for gimped hardware. I say gimped because 3d art has so much done to it to force it to work and so much is thrown away because we are just trying to get the game to look right. Now 2d art did not need more than 250 mega and that was over kill almost. The art really was as good as the artist then. Now the art is only as good as the tech or engine and the hardware it sits on. Instead of toning down the art to make a better game, game play is cut. Basicly what I'm saying is these systems are not balanced for great game play and art simply becuase every one is trying to simply out do tech and then call it art.
That it seems many of these former console devs went to chase 'prestige' and got away from actually making fun content filled games and instead decided to try and outdo disney pixar in the cgi department. I think a reset is in order. Many console devs that went HD this gen really bet the farm on a rather expensive gimmick. PC guys have had HD graphics for a decade at least, that doesn't impress them. Which is why PC gamers generally love the Wii. RE5 no question looks head and shoulders better than RE4, yet, what is the better game? Many HD gamers are getting ripped off big time. Paying 60$ for a 5-8 hr game? But it takes 3-4 yrs to actually make it, the reesources are going towards making games pretty first, fun second (if at all). I remember the days when Consoles and PC games were very different experiences. They'd share games on occasion but they weren't the same. Look at Doom on SNES and look at SF2 on PC lol. M$ went head first into PC gaming and Sony followed. Nintendo stayed a gaming console. And many of these companies like Capcom, like Square, Like Konami, all got their start on the NES. These are console devs with an identity crisis. They should stick to what they know best. Trying to turn RE5 into a gears of war is not what fans of that series wanted. The American arm of Capcom has been cut because Capcom sees that they suck lol. Dark Void and Bionic Commando would have really hurt Capcom in the financials if a little game called MHTri hadn't saved them from a disasterous quater.
I think the Japanese market will make a comeback, especially Capcom. Capcom just need to get rid of him because he's a horrible director/producer, we saw it three times this generation (DMC 4, RE 5, LP 2)
Turning every game into a Halo or Call of Duty isnt going to help either It's seems this gen its popular to bash anything that comes out of japan and praise things that come out of from the west. why in the hell can we not just play our games and have fun?
IMO* Once Japan looks to itself for Inspiration when it comes to these games, they can go back to their former glory. Jump on the capitalist monkey-money-making-american mentality and you set yourself up for failure, especially if you don't know how to cater to the region "that arguably sells more software and hardware than any other market" The time is right for total, world-wide acceptance of Japanese games, for what they are and now that, that time is ripe, they seem to being trying to take after American direction in games. Vanquish, RE5, Lost Planet all have that Western Vibe. Final Fantasy XIII has a western vibe to it too. I loved the Japanese references in games, how some shops in RPGS had Kanji, but had a noticable sign that has the sword icon or staff icon, symbolizing magic/items or weapons/armor shops. I would like to see traditional JPRG elements with innovative gameplay that actually builds on the the old-school approach of games like FFVI, Lufia II, Xenogears. All had simplistic battle systems that were engaging, difficult and immersed us; those who actually enjoyed or still enjoy these games.
This is the very reason I'm playing Chrono Trigger and Xenogears at this moment. No good RPG's nowadays :(
You can see how "western" the guys were trying to be in RE5 by making chris a giant boulder punching roid monkey. Americans do that...right?
Stop being so damn xenophobic! If you'd start hiring some American/European producers instead of only letting Japanese designers make games that they think American people want to play, you'd probably have a better audience response. Asking people from Japan to describe America, or what American gamers want is like listening to someone living in the Hamptons try and describe what life is like in Compton. They have an idea that they cobbled together from somewhere, but it's all kinds of wrong.
Take a good look at yourself and what Capcom has done in these past few years. Don't act like you nor Capcom didn't have anything to do with the Japanese gaming industry being "doomed".
He has no one to blame but himself for his games not selling. Capcom has been screwing people with DLC for quite awhile now and because people are catching on, now they act like the Japanese game industry is doomed? Well, I think he should wake up and take a look at himself in a mirror. Then lets hope he figures his problem out.
sooo basically for japan to be successful they have to make more fps's and masseffect games or else die. damn i guess being unique with games like demon's souls, valkyria chronicles, valkyrie profile series, tales series, kingdom hearts series, persona etc etc isnt enough anymore, not to mention the japanese make the best fighting games and best action games.....damn we r all screwed.....
I swear im the only one who liked RE5, yea i would of preffered it to be oldschool RE but i love a good co-op game and even though it wasnt RE enough for most it was still a good game....just not a good RE game.
i luved re5 to death, one of my fav games this gen next to demon souls and lbp. me and my girlfriend beat the game 4 times in a row and played mercenaries and mercenaries reunion and the dlc episodes. re5 is so awesome
i liked RE5, but the quality of the game was a huge step backwards from RE4. i was really disappointed, but a great coop game nontheless. the japanese market has taken steps backwards by issuing games that lack substance when compared to previous installments, see Lost Planet 2 as the current showcase....
just make HD monsterhunter you'll be fine.
It's like SEGA blaming us whenever they half-ass a port from Japan with limited marketing (Valkyria Chronicles), even culling content because we stupid westerners just wouldn't "get it" (Yakuza 3)
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