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Microsoft Will Have To “Pay More” To Keep Gears Of War Exclusive Says Pachter

Gears of War 3 will be available next year Epic Games has announced, and we expect to hear and see much more at E3. It’s the second biggest franchise on the Xbox 360 and a huge money maker for both Microsoft and Epic Games.

Thing is, Epic Games is an independent studio that must continue to make money to survive and now that the PS3 install base is just about the same size with that of Xbox 360, it’s becoming more and more enticing to make all their games multiplatform. Many still cling on to a tiny bit of hope to see Gears of War 3 on PS3, but Epic Games has constantly stabbed that rumor to death.

But in the future, according to Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst, Michael Pachter, things might be different, even for the Gears of War franchise. (Gears of War 3, Xbox 360)

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MexicanAppleThief  +   1520d ago
You know, I am wondering why they didn't annouce this at MS E3...maybe...dare I say it...it'll go multiplatform?
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MajestieBeast  +   1520d ago
Prepare for the disagrees. I think the series will stay on the 360 and its 1 of those series that make's it worth to own a 360, so it would be a shame for microsoft for it to go to ps3.
Nathaniel_Drake  +   1520d ago
I don't know FF13 was thought of as staying on the PS3.
Ghoul  +   1520d ago
how many times was pachter right with his crystal ball ?

1/100 ? This guys spreads media bull for a living never forget that.
Every news that generates hits and his name in the news is money to him

dont believe pachter.
Legosz  +   1519d ago
People can disagree with me all they want, but I will bet that Gears 3 will not be multiplatform. I can't believe you idiots even fall for patcher over and over and over again, giving him hits which then transfers to money. And I am not saying that I wouldn't love to play it on my PS3, I would just be pissed because then I would not need my 360.
JokesOnYou  +   1520d ago
lol,
Didn't Pachter say Gears2 would be on ps3? Well I guess with this latest statement from him, basicly by opening his mouth that confirms its not true.

-This was funny:
"I don't, I think Microsoft has a contract to make sure they get that sequel," he said. "But I think Epic regrets signing that contract"
http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

-And as usual when he's wrong he just makes a new prediction:
“Of course they don’t “regret” because they’re all very wealthy and they cut themselves a great deal. I guess what I really meant was future versions of Gears are at least going to be negotiated to allow them to make them all multiplatform, unless Microsoft pays even more."
http://www.gamesthirst.com/...

Why would a company that has a deal for 3 games need to all of a sudden "pay more" for the 3rd game? And of course anything beyond micro and Epic's original deal will need to be negotiated, thats just common sense not a prediction.

JOY
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Karum  +   1520d ago
MS will have a ton of stuff to show at E3 I'd say. I mean sure they announced Gears before E3 but there's going to be a whole bunch of info/footage of the game to show at E3.

I can't imagine the Gears franchise being anything other than a 360/MS exclusive but how many of us thought the same thing about once PS exclusive franchises.

Never say never but there is certainly no financial necessity for Epic to go multi plat with Gears. The game sells millions on the 360 alone, not to mention Epic make an ass ton of money and royalties from licensing the Unreal Engine.
RedDevils  +   1520d ago
lol if this are true then
It gonna be bigger than "Uncle Sam nipples" :P
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MexicanAppleThief  +   1520d ago
Family Guy ref FTW.
morganfell  +   1520d ago
I warned people over a year ago that Gears 1 was in development for the PS3. I was attacked repeatedly. But it is still showing up in the daily build/bug reports.

Anyone with a U3 developer's license can see the daily reports for games. Some games use a code name and you have to look at the reports and try to decipher what title they are listing. Other titles just use their actual name. Gears 1, 2, and 3 show their actual name. Right now Gears 3 is only being developed for the 360.

But Gears 1 is under development for the PS3 and Gears 2 as well. Are they using this to pressure Microsoft? If so it is a great deal of pressure because a lot of development time/money is being spent on bringing those two titles to the PS3. All you have to so is get on the U3 dev network and take a look.
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MACADOODLE  +   1520d ago
So it seems Morganfell likes to make up fairy tails like Pachter. I have to give you some troll credit though, not everyone can just type type 100% BS like that pretending it's true. I been here on N4G only a couple of months and have to say you are top 5 trolls here spending 98% of your time in anything 360. Did the 360 kick your dog or TP your house? If you want Gears just buy a 360, you can find 360's real cheap now and we all know there s a prce drop coming which the 360 may be $100. Gears and Halo are Xbox like Uncharted and GOW is Playstation. Why do you spend so much time hating? Do you ever just get tired of yourself?
secksi-killer  +   1520d ago
lol morganfell
i remember your now infamous claims about gears 2 and e3 09.lol that thread that you was running your mouth off in was a classic. and you was promising to save the thread so everyone could eat crow at e3...lol

then when e3 rolled around, and guess what? gears2 wasnt announced for the ps3. when you was called out, you denied that you had said it.

but the best was, one sunday afternoon i was reading n4g, and some guy posted the links to the threads. after you again denied it lol. that was some classic overkill that afternoon. nothing like seeing people eating crow is there morganfell ;-) classic

so. personally i dont think we need pachter on n4g...we have you morganfell!! you're obviously a man with some serious inside knowledge of the industry lolol.

and, lets just remember how accurate your prediction was at last years e3!!
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RedDevils  +   1520d ago
@MACADOODLE
just to let you know I just zip through your comment it's basically about fanboy bullsh*t but anyway that can be apply to the 360 worshipers aka fanboy, and about the console been cheap, not many people can afford the room to even put another console in the house, unless they like to flush their money into the toilet, well I say let them, the thing is it not about money, well for some people that is the case but still you need to know people have preference and just let them say whatever they like, if you don't just ignore them and move on with your life, it really simple as 1+1=2
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morganfell  +   1519d ago
Mac, I have a 360 and Gears.

I can't change the facts. Epic is working on the games. As regards that individual below you, I did think Gears 1 would be announced at E3 last year. It wasn't.

What I asked for - and never even came close to receiving - was a logical explanation why Epic would pour that much money into a game they would never release.

I never said Gears 2 was coming. I just found out a few weeks ago that Epic was also working on Gears 2 for the PS3. At least if someone is going to attack what I said you would think they would be honest...oh wait, look at the general quality of their comments.
scofios  +   1519d ago
@MACADOODLE Gears is from epic Halo are Xbox like Uncharted and GOW is Playstation. There, I Fixed It
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MACADOODLE  +   1519d ago
@RedDevils
If your going to call me a fanboy do some research. I have never said anything bad about any console or game... ever. Facts are facts and the facts are Morgan is a troll. You trolls are pissed about somthing the Xbox stole from you and you wait like dsperate vultures for some meat you are never going to get. I love God of War so I own a PS3, I love Gears so I own a 360. If you wanted Gears so bad maybe you bought the wrong console.
secksi-killer  +   1519d ago
morganfell
come on. you was claiming last year that gears 2 was going to be announced at least years e3, not gears 1!!! and now you are saying that you found out last week that gears 2 is actually in development..lol

ok, so are they going to announce it at e3 this year or not??

personally i dont care. i've already had/played/completed it on my 360, and i have no intention of buying it again for my ps3.
morganfell  +   1519d ago
No, you are wrong. I never said anything about Gears 2 being announced. At least when you go on the attack get your facts straight. Unlike certain other people on this board I own up to what I say.

Finally, locate someone that actually has access to the Unreal Developers Network and ask them to tell you what Epic titles in development are currently having their daily build reports posted by Epic on UDN. If you do that you won't be pointing the finger at me over this again.
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secksi-killer  +   1519d ago
morganfell
read em and weep

there it is people. have a good laugh at morganfells expense...enjoy

http://n4g.com/news/244282/...
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booni3  +   1520d ago
the only thing that is certain is that they would certainly make more money.
The Wood  +   1520d ago
If patcher tells me to run
ill duck

either way i hope this isnt true cause even a broken clock...... anyway MS needs more exclusives not less. Sony MAY have been this aggressive with their 1st/2nd party studios because of MS. If MS have too few REAL exclusives to count, sony MAY slow up......i doubt it though. To be honest sony seemed like using this model was always their plan no matter what the competition done. They did say few years ago that 3rd party exclusives were dying....lucky guess by them i suppose /s
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thehitman  +   1520d ago
Sony
is Sony they had the same support from since they started playstation and built themselves up. MS have no influence on the quality they seek. If MS announced this E3 that they leaving the gaming industry Sony would cheer but next day they be like hmmmm so where were we and continue doing the things they always did.
ASSASSYN 36o  +   1520d ago
I could care less if the 360 has less exclusives. I am still going to sit down and play my 360. People who place emphasis on exclusives using the full power of the console are in the right frame of mind. But, rarely do multi-platform games I play on the 360 suffer any ill effects of being such. My favorite games are multi-platform games. And with regards to Gears 3 I am not looking forward to it. I didn't like gears 2 at all. I doubt I will shell out money for gears 3.
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Nathaniel_Drake  +   1520d ago
It's not really luck other than hard research. There is a reason Sony is always on top with their technology
lowcarb  +   1520d ago
you sound like a robot.
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raztad  +   1520d ago
@Wood

Sony 1/2nd party development is not related to MS exclusive games in any way.

As Assasyn 36o pointed out most xbox users are satisfied with their games being multiplats. I feel that was MS strategy from the get go. Make the xbox the platform of choice for multiplat games. It kinda worked, the xbox is the easiest console to develop for and multi plats usually end up being slightly better on it.

Sony, on the other hand, having the more expensive console and late in the market needs to walk the extra mile, and push the PS3 as a "must have" due its exclusives, no just a "me too" console. It's working.
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lowcarb  +   1520d ago
It would appear your correct about MS going the multiplat route but that was just phase one. Shane Kim mentioned MS knowing the importance of 1st party studio's so hopefully at E3 we see there vision. MS is up to something and will come out fully loaded to hurt some feeling come E3.
The Wood  +   1519d ago
both of you are bang on
i was being a little playful. Sony are doing sony..end of. As low carb says im sure MS now feel their here to stay so the next step would be to build.. not sure about the hurting feelings tho carb but nothing wrong with hoping aey.

My stance is that its ALL about the exclusives in terms of differentiating yourself from the rest. When you think Nintendo you think mario, link Samus. When i think sony i think Solid snake, i think ratchet, i think Nathan drake even. With MS i think Master chief, I think fable, i think marcus phoenix. All of the multiplatform stuff isnt being overlooked by me saying this but my point is there needs to be a reason for some people to chose one console over the other and the underlying factor will be who has the most games they want to play and this will obviously get swayed by exclusive games/content NOT a pixel difference in multiplats so ultimately whoever has the best exclusives has the better chance in the long run and by that i mean from gen to gen like nintendo. Of course other factors are involved, the dreamcast, xbox and gamecube are testament to that, but a legacy of titles is hard to downplay even by the sternest guys who feel differently.
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GUCommander  +   1520d ago
Patcher is an idiot...
hamoor  +   1520d ago
sure he is,but he is right
If gears of war went multiplat,and bungie are no more devoloping the halo series
What else the 360 got??
Don't get me wrong i know there is some other great exclusives in the 360 but halo and gears are the major titles of the xbox brand
Like the ps3 have FIVE big exclusives
Uncharted 2
MGS4
Killzone 2
God of war 3
Gt5
So i guess what the xbox needs is more big games that define the console like halo and gears
While sony have five and more to come in the near future
ASSASSYN 36o  +   1520d ago
Crack down 3
Alan wake 2
Mass Effect 3
Fable 3
Forza series
Left 4 dead 3

I am well aware most of these are not confirmed. But the door is open for them to be made.
The 360 will be fine minus more halo games beyond reach and gears 3. And as I have said before. Exclusives or not people will continue playing games on the 360.
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jetlian  +   1519d ago
they still own
halo as an IP And if rare can get out of its slump. perfect dark and killer instinct, banjo.
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BrutallyBlunt  +   1520d ago
Money could be put to better use
I realize companies need to do things to be more competitive but Microsoft would be better off putting that money into their own studios. Let the IP go multiplatform. In fact all 3rd party IP's should be (like the recent article on The Agent I commented on). There really is no need to make backroom deals, which will limit your userbase, because you want to sell consoles. Let the consumer decide which platform they want to play it on, don't force them to decide.
IdleLeeSiuLung  +   1520d ago
I think by the time the next Gears of War is coming after the third installment it might go multi-platform. I'm almost certain MS is cooking something else as it might not be worth it to them to keep Gears of War exclusive. They could probably make 2-3 new IPs for the same cost.

They could easily expand some of their internal studios or even form new ones.
scofios  +   1519d ago
I agree at some point, what i hate most is what ms is doing with some 3 party games , i will give you one example , gears being an exclusief to 360 is not a probleem why ? because that game started on the 360 and ps3 or wii only owners never played those games , but what's a real probleem are games like splinter cell who playstation and nintendo gamers have played on there console and suddenly cant play anymore .
MorganX  +   1520d ago
Paying for Exclusives or timed exclusives has worked well for MS. Especially with downloadable games. Right now I prefer the PS3 technically. But, by the time Zombie Apocalypse got to PSN, I was done. I'm trying to hold out (from going back to my XBox)for Magic The Gathering: DOP. But Expansion 2 is already out on Xbox and still not firm date for PSN. By the time Braid got to PSN it was old news.

Sony should pay to get some of these, especially for PSN. It's a good strategy. With inferior hardware MS will survive to the next generation, and may be leading into it, based soley on games and the Live! infrastructure which PSN may never be able to compete with.
BrutallyBlunt  +   1520d ago
But why should consumers be caught in the middle? Where does it end? What if I enjoy Mass Effect and the third installment goes exclusive to the Playstation 3? I realize that's an extreme example but one that is not impossible.

3rd party publishers should stay out of trying to influence the market. Their sole interest should be to release games to the public to be enjoyed. Not some backroom deal which in the end means limiting your userbase. I'd hate to see Sony open their wallets and make Gears of War 3 exclusive on the Playstation 3. I own a Playstation 3 but that's not the point. I shouldn't have to go back and forth and spend hundreds of dollars on both consoles to play certain games by 3rd party publishers because Sony or Microsoft wants to sell consoles. I know before the generation even begins that Gran Turismo will be on the next Playstation. I'd hate to have to buy multiple platforms again for Epic games or Rockstar games.
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MorganX  +   1519d ago
You make a good point. But there's nothing to say Sony can't pay to keep something from being Xbox exclusive. I agree, games should be multi platform, but as long as one side is willing to pay, you will have some exclusives or timed exclusives unless both sides pay.

Microsoft can take a loss to make a profit for years so they won't stop any time soon.
jetlian  +   1519d ago
they do it
because they don't know how much money the game will make on its own
Colonel-Killzone  +   1520d ago
I love that Microsoft is in the gaming industry even though I will never buy their games or consoles. It keeps Sony on their toes I mean I cannot imagine Sony not being in the gaming business but can you guys imagine it without Microsoft ? You cannot lie without Microsoft Sony would not be where its at right now. Samething can be said actually about Microsoft and Nintendo also they all help each other with competition.
bjornbear  +   1520d ago
pay up MS
its what you are good at
DA_SHREDDER  +   1520d ago
Microsoft, your so nice. I didn't want the game on my console in the first place.
JokesOnYou  +   1520d ago
hold on,
Didn't Pachter say Gears2 would be on ps3? Well I guess with this statement from him, basicly by opening his mouth that confirms its not true.

-This was funny:
"I don't, I think Microsoft has a contract to make sure they get that sequel," he said. "But I think Epic regrets signing that contract"
http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

-And as usual when he's wrong he just makes a new prediction:
“Of course they don’t “regret” because they’re all very wealthy and they cut themselves a great deal. I guess what I really meant was future versions of Gears are at least going to be negotiated to allow them to make them all multiplatform, unless Microsoft pays even more."

Why would a company that has a deal for 3 games need to all of a sudden "pay more" for the 3rd game? And of course anything beyond micro and Epic's original deal will need to be negotiated, thats just common sense not a prediction.

JOY
Cueil  +   1520d ago
well
Microsoft has a Publishing contract with Epic... it's not the same as them paying for an exclusive... I'm sure that the massive amounts of advertisment dollars that Microsoft spends that wont be there anymore if they go multiplatform would be a problem... no one advertises their franchises quite like Microsoft does.
jack who  +   1520d ago
so your saying they would have to pay more on a deal that was agreed too 5 years ago?....this blows my mind
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SUPREME RULER  +   1520d ago
epic will leave just like bungi did!
Ms have little to no first part studios! sony is smart in that department.
jetlian  +   1519d ago
not really
its cheaper to pay someone else than to hold onto them. Why you think so many US companies outsource work elsewhere.
tomisnever  +   1520d ago
I don't understand why anyone would care at all, as fellow gamers surely we should hope everyone gets to enjoy all games. Most people can't afford to buy both consoles, me myself could only afford a ps3 but I'd love to play Gears 3, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, Halo ect. Just as i wish the people who only have an Xbox to enjoy the ps3 exclusives. It's just a shame these companies need exclusives to survive, but uno the competition to have the best exclusives is properly a good thing, great games are born out of it. I just wish we all got to enjoy all the games.
DigitalRaptor  +   1520d ago
Yeah Pachter, just like Sony will have to "pay more" to keep Insomniac from developing for the 360. /s

This guy is full of assumptions, but doesn't realise that these companies have good working relationships, and not all that relies on being greedy with money. Insomniac are a modest studio, I'm sure Epic is too, and they know Gears is a Microsoft title. But who knows really? Which is why Pachter is such an idiot for thinking he 'knows'!
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rob6021  +   1519d ago
Well Insomniac has never made anything multiplatform, they only make PlayStation games.. On the other hand Epic does, and that would give most people reason to believe that gears' exclusivity was paid for in full - and not the same kind of working-relationship insomniac has with sony. That being said I'm sure Sony pays something to keep insomniac exclusive, it just might not be as much.
Rageanitus  +   1520d ago
doesnt really matter
Gears did not have the same impact as what halo did to the xbox .
Inside_out  +   1519d ago
...Gears is HUGE...
Gears is massive...it's sold almost 12 million an 360 and there is no reason why it couldn't potential sell twice as much if it went multi-platform....

M$ took a chance on a dream fro Cliffy B and it paid off...they had to choose between Half life and Gears...Because Valve is notorious for taking there sweet old time, M$ went with Gears and the rest is history...

Epic and Unreal made a fortune this gen because of Gears and M$ promotion of the Unreal engine for the 360...you've been enlightened...

Does that mean that it will forever be exclusive...no...but I think M$ would like to keep it that way...M$ is going casual now...the Nintendo factor...M$ loves the fact Nintendo is making a fortune and spending next to nothing compared to Sony and M$...Cliffy B has been praising alot of Multi-plats lately...He wants to rule the world...that's always dangerous...Hmmmm...E3 could have a Bombshell....
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Robearboy  +   1520d ago
I stopped reading at "the ps3 and x360 has just about the same install base"

I know that ps3 is doing what everyone expected and catching up but in my eyes 4.5 million is still a large number.
Pootangpie  +   1520d ago
Pachter needs to be fired from his job
or not it's pretty amusing watching him make a fool out of himself

it's actually funny most of his predictions are always bashing the 360 never the PS3
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unknown100  +   1519d ago
if microsoft looses the exclusivity to gears of war then microsoft might as well loose the console war.
mookins  +   1519d ago
Microsoft doesn't need topay anything. Gears will stay on the 360 because if it ever goes multiplatform-GAME OVER.
REDHULKSMASH  +   1519d ago
I like gears but...
It ain't coming to ps3. It's sad, but it's good because msoft can't afford to lose it, and Sony can't afford to lose Microsoft as a competitor. Imagine if it was just Sony and nintendo, competition would be crap. Sony wouldn't have to strive because nintendo games are lame. I no longer have a 360 do to five rrod and I do miss gears, but only gears...get my point they got nothing else! I play my multiplats on ps3 because of the duelshock controller, hardware, bluray, and free Internet. uncharted 2 multiplayer is now my champion.

If gears did go ps3 I would buy all of them and all dlc; but it would kill Microsoft causing Sony to get lazy and sucky. Now Sony should trade exclusives like resistance for gears.
PirateThom  +   1519d ago
See, with Sony, this isn't a problem.

Look at the PS2, it had no competition in its later life and Sony were stilling putting out the Shadow of the Collosses and God of Wars. Even during its life, you had the Ratchet and Clank games... Twisted Metal... Gran Turismo... Jak and Daxter... Sly Cooper... Dark Cloud... SOCOM... whatever. They were untouched by the XBox, GameCube and Dreamcast, but still felt the need to produce quality titles from day 1 onward.

Competition fuels the industry, but it's like exactly fueling Sony's game output. Changing their processes and impacting the console's features, but the games? Not really.
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bviperz  +   1519d ago
This place
Is gonna blow up if true! But it's highly unlikely...
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lochdoun  +   1519d ago
Pachter is a bumbling idiot.
Micrsoft OWNS the IP!!!
0% chance of Gears coming to PS3.
You mad fanboys?
You mad???
KratosGod3  +   1519d ago
I have play Gears of War 2 and I’m honest is a good game but not my type of game play. and by the way Microsoft keep in float the 360 by paying extra money for exclusives mmmmmm, feel sorry for M$, the money they make in exclusive games is just to pay the exclusivity rights. No wonder why M$ charge extra money for add-ons accessories.

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