Just days after Microsoft took a more than US$1 billion earnings charge to fix hardware problems in Xbox 360 consoles, a class-action suit says that the consoles also damage game discs...
Rub it in fanboys faces time after time xD keep them coming more cons
I dont quite get where you are going with your comment...
Either way my take...no scratches on my end..not worried....stupid lawsuits like this are par for the course of life apparently.
Pay no attention to him. He's the fake Bladestar.
I don't get it, we as gamers should be more mature than this. Dancing around the problems of another console is childish and stupid. So let's say sony fanboys, what happens if Microsoft bows out or even Nintendo, and all your left with is sony. You'll get the same syndrome as what EA did. That in no way is a positive for gaming. Diversity is what breeds advancement in technology and creativity. You should be happy for the competition. If not for it, Sony might not have tried so hard. We as gamers benefit when the companies compete against each other. If it wasn't for the competition, PS3's might of cost $1000 and up. Remember they wanted to sell it as some kind of Mac competition. But because of Microsoft and Nintendo, they had to rethink their approach. A lot of the fanboys from all camps need to grow up. They make this site disappointing to come to sometimes. Every article trying to bash the competition. Since when was bad news, good news. Can't we just bask in the positives of gaming, and let go these childish obsessions to validate our purchases. All this is getting pretty old.
Thanks for the ears, but i just had to vent my frustration....
Its supposed to be repaired again soon as i recieve the shipping box. This the second time I had to get it repaired for scratching discs.
No red lights and no scratches. My HDD died on me killing all my saves including Gears of war, finished it 100%. lol. I nearly cried. I just hope MS change the Cpu to that 65nm this year. I hear its cheaper, more realiable and just alot better than the original. Sometimes the 360 can be so much fun, and then it dies (something dies?). With the new cpu, it could shut up all the 360 haters once and for all :p
wait so there are other problems besides the RROD.. scratched discs, HDD problems, and here i thought the RROD was the major problem. Anyone know if the billion dollar 3 year warranty covers all problems, or just that of the RROD?
The 3 year warranty only covers "RROD" situations. Everything else is still 1 year.
EDIT: Whoever disagreed hasn't read any of the MS interviews or meeting notes. What I was saying has been stated, and re-stated, several times.
Arkham is absolutely correct. Yes sir!
scratched ma gears of war cd once but i think it only scratches cd's when upright or sumthin cus i started laying it flat and no more scratchin. But by then ma gears cd was scratched to the point where the xbox read it as a movie dvd and refused to play giving error msg please place in an xbox 360.
My brother had asimilar situation with his gears of war disc. I have a ps3 he has a 360, he told me he decided to stand his console vertically then it started scratching his Gears. He didnt notice it at first but after a while so many circular scratches were there to make the disc unreadable. A shame really, Gears is a beautiful game which I would have loved to play.
I share exactly the same fate with my Gears =C
what more can i say red ring ,Scratch Discs ,hard drive
whats next ????????????????
oh i know the Controller
At least for me , It got some sweet games out but I havnt really got to get into em cause of all the repair and then a sense of dread once i get it back that its gona eat my discs again. Which happened.
Could be. At least games and a good warrantylevel.
PS3 has no maintenance. With no games its not turned on too much.
ive had HDD problems 3 ring of Death and Disk scratches
seriously, come on.
I own two 360s, over 60 games and never had one scratch.
with cdzie1???? GOD i hate fanboys, why would this guy make a simple statement and lie, whats the point??
Not as many games, but two 360s with no problems.
Same here except i own 3 x360! Is this scratched DVD's thing the one where it scratchs when beening flipped up right when playing? Besides that i haven't heard or met anyone that has a x360 that scratchs! Oh well none of my 3 x360 does it so this has nothing to do with me.
You, my man are single handedly the reason why the 360 attach rate is so high hehe...
That's a lot of games!
I had more for my PS2 (probably not much more) but it took me years to amass such a large collection.
Have a bubble.
and have a launch 360. No scratched disks.
I think people are stupid and move their 360 while it is on.
You have over 50 360 games.
Buddy, I think you need to spend more time outside.
Who are you to judge.
Scratched the crap out of Rainbow 6 Vegas and Dead Rising. Then it decided to retire from the world of playing games and pulled the ROD. I took the lazy ba$tard into Best Buy, got a new one, and it seems to be working fine. Makes me wanna go out and get Dead Rising again cause I brought it in after it kept giving me stupid disc read errors. That game was the first reason I wanted a 360.
scratched discs / rings of death / hd errors / yes the 360 has it all
Yah people play games and juggle 360s ....right.
my 360 recently scratched my copy of crackdown and when i tried playing it. it says please insert disc in a Xbox 360 or something i forget wat it exactly says
It cerainly does scratch Discs.
My gears has a ring scratch...
lol... but it's only when you do something stupid like... moving a console while a disc is inside. i swear there was a label on the disc tray saying "Do not move console while game discs inside"
Disc Scratch Pwned me.
without any issues, but as soon as someone walks across the floor a 360 can randomly damage your game disc. -True Story- Microsoft should've paid for laser padding on their launch systems just like every other console company in the industry. It costs like 50 cents more.
are you fkn serious?! my 360 scratches discs if Im having hard sex in the next room!
that pic of the disc is misleading though. thats not 360 damage, thats neglect more like. everyone knows that after a 360 has had its way with a disc it will show by deep circular rings around its circumference
doh! more rings of death
No scratches from my 360. Except once when I purposely hit the 360 while it was spinning to see if it would actually scratch, which it did ;)
Working for a busy Best Buy that has sold a LOT of 360s, and has (unfortunately) seen more than a few of them returned/exchanged, I can say that no one has ever returned one due to scratched discs. Red ring or HD failure, yes, but never for scratched discs.
Now bear in mind that this is the experience of one person, at one store, in one city.
But since I'm the store's resident gaming expert, I'm frequently summoned to customer service to check out a returned system, mostly to make sure that all the materials are present before a return/exchange can occur. I will often check out the system, making sure that the defective unit is actually defective, because sometimes people forget to do simple things, like flick the HD switch on the cables or hook up the power supply properly (seriously, we get that sometimes).
If the system proves to be defective, I often ask what went wrong. Most of the time, it's the dreaded red ring; i.e. general hardware failure. Here and there, it's been a defective HD. And sometimes, the drive fails.
I've handled dozens and dozens of units over the past year and a half, and not once has anyone ever complained of a scratched disc. (Honestly)
Now, most of the reports I've read of scratched discs have come from other countries, i.e., not the US. Is it a manufacturing mistake, from a factory that makes units primarily for Europe (for example)? Or is this more pervasive? Any proof, sources, etc. would be appreciated. I just haven't seen it firsthand--which doesn't mean it's not out there.
I never had a problem with my 360, and from what I've read from those who took the survey on the 360 fanboy site and most every other poll with comments about defects, almost all of them only complained about the red rings failure problem. I'm sure there are some who've had disc scratches, and other defects too but the vast majority of defective 360's were related to the infamous "PROD" defect. Oh, I know since they are offering a warranty to cover the biggest problem with the console, now anti-360 fanboys need another reason to hate the 360.....and after that, I'm sure it will be another reason....meanwhile the millions of people who actually like what the 360 has to offer will just continue to buy and play games. BTW, wasn't news of this lawsuit posted on N4G a couple days ago? -lol Oh well, enjoy the war.
I have had only one scratched disk, COD2, and it was my fault. I got my a$$ handed to me in an online match and got mad and stomped the floor, shaking my horizontal standing 360 (wobbly old hardwood floors) and it scratched it. All it did to it though was made it where i couldn't play the "The End Of The Beginning" level. The rest of the game worked fine. RROD from overheating is a way bigger issue than scratched disks anyway. I would rather see MS work on that problem.
Those are different divices its like saying because my CRT TV can be around my humidifier my LCD should be able to also with out having screen damage just because these consoles play games does not mean they're the same by any stretch of the imagination.
My discs are fine i have a bud that bumped his 360 and it scratched a disc i also seen them scratched from heart stopping sound systems(BASS). MS has almost phased all of that batch of Disc drives that was causing scratch problems. I'm sure there are huge LAN parties and young kids treating the 360 like a NES. Clearly tells you in the manual not to "TOUCH IT"(bump, shake).
Its nice to see so many PS3 fans are offering their support by flooding this thread.
the 360 bad news train just keeps a rollin'...
' ' the 360 bad news train just keeps a rollin'... ' '
All facts though.
This is old news too we all know the x360 scratch discs to bad they are on last gen. media dvd eh.
Blu-ray has scracth resistance technology.
Blu-ray > dvddead.
I dont really know but I have around 30 360 games and I have yet to see any scratches. But I always had mine (console) laid flat.
Maybe standing it up right is the cause?
Let the fanboys keep tryin to diss the 360. As long as MS takes care of my sh*t I don't care. They all seem to forget sony's 2nd generation console *PS2* had loads of problems. When MS's next console is released be afraid...be very afraid...lol
ps2 had loads of faults like disc read error(most common problem) wont recognise memory cards or controlers disc tray malfunction or totaly dead reads blue discs but not dvds or reads dvds but not blue discs. so dont treat sony like they have never had a bad console.
Then again, i don't move my xbox while it's on. Duh.
i notice everytime i ask this, fanboys flee.lol
...nuff said, gtfo 1 bubble noob.
EDIT: @trueltie5...just back away from the computer...
Kameo, Condemned and Perfect Dark Zero. I didn't want to mention PDZ but for an FPS some people liked it. Kameo and Condemned however were both solid titles and very underrated. And those were launch titles, I don't even want to go into the list of games in the first year there is too many.
You Xbox fans always have to justify a crappy system. This is going to be a class action suit. Those who claim they haven't had their disc scratch..is like those tobacco smokers saying they never died from cigarettes. Wake up and just realize the xbox was not a well built system. Swallow your pride.
You fail. I've got 2 360's and neither have had a disc scratching problem, RROD or HDD problem.. What would you like me to say?? I'm speaking from personal experience and they've both been used heavily for almost 2 years.
Disc scratching is caused more than likely because you moved your console or you didn't load the disc in the drive properly. I think the problem seems more inherent in people who have their console vertical. I've always had my consoles horizontal.
i have scrathing problem and the ring of death...OMFG
Most of the disc scratching incidents have most likely occurred when owners who didn't know what they were doing moved the console from vertical to horizontal or vice-versa during operation. It says in the manual not to do that.
I'm sure there were some bad disc drives though. I know that my first disc drive in my 360 made some funny noises sometimes, and it always gave me a "disc read error". Never once did it scratch anything though. Luckily, Microsoft fixed it free of charge, and it works perfectly now.
My own experience is why I don't feel that Microsoft is to blame for some of the faulty 360s. With thousands of parts, it could be the fault of some of their manufacturing partners. I don't blame Microsoft for my bad disc drive. I blame Samsung, they're the ones who made it! Now I have the Toshiba disc drive. It's much more quiet and it runs very efficiently.
my 360 ate Kameo one week after i purchased the console.
Whatever... this is just some other shmuck looking to get rich quick with a law suit. He should be filing a lawsuit, if any, for the games that he claims were messed up. Which from what I understand is $120 plus tax if he's referring to 2 games. If his console is messed up then MS should replace it. But this does not warrant 5M in damages, even if it is class action
i agree^^^, mine in almost 2 years, no rrod, no scratching.
Maybe it had to do with a specific shipment. Most consumer electronic devices would sometimes have different parts in their manufacturing life cycle.
Don't have a XB360 - not planning on getting one - but if you work with electronics, and buy lots for a corporate, you sometimes notice that the same model sometimes have different parts. Sometime you will have a Seagate hd, or a Maxtor or WD. The CD / DVD part seems to be a popular part to see different models with same specs in different iterations of the same model.
of course they scratch its one of the drives that do it no bumpers fitted hence scratched discs
some trading standards show proved it
its only the one drive,trouble is theres about 2 million plus fitted with them
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