Rumors have started to fly about what features the next consoles from Microsoft will have in store. Early speculation suggests a built-in Blu-ray drive and more.
Idk if they do do it ..id be scared. lol. PS4 :(
Can someone translate the "rumor" page? The non-article seems like someone decided to say some things and click the add comment button.
I can guarantee MS is not releasing a portable gaming device. Considering they are throwing all of their mobile game attention towards Windows Mobile 7 there is no chance of that happening. Considering how Ninty dominates the market and how iPhone is catching up to the casual market MS would be dumb to release a handheld.
I think DUMB is a stretch. You could have said the same thing about a console when Microsoft launched Xbox. Not to say they haven't had bumps in the road, but it's been a pretty successful product so far. If I were to cite a reason for Microsoft NOT to make a portable, it's because the RROD has proven they aren't the best at playing the hardware game. But who knows... maybe they will learn a thing or two...
Power PC on M$? I don't think so. That would make programming for both PC and Xbox that much more difficult. Which means I don't believe anything else here, either. Honestly, I don't think M$ will release another console until they feel comfortable with going all digital. (Anything to prevent them from paying Sony for having a BluRay drive.)
PowerPC is used at all three console manufacturers right now!
"Honestly, I don't think M$ will release another console until they feel comfortable with going all digital. (Anything to prevent them from paying Sony for having a BluRay drive.)" They dont need Sony's Blu Ray
MS just made over 12 billion dollars profit last fiscal quarter. I am sure they can afford some losses. Of course they have a very good board of directors that look out for the bottom line better than most. I really don't think MS will use blu-ray. I think they will use usb flash drives as you can have up to 64 to 128 gb flash drives that transfer data faster than a blu-ray disc and hold more data. Smaller physical medium and no skip. Just look at the system update for X360. Makes use of flash drives. Look at Windows updates. Breaking the cap on 32 gb sd. Bottom line is that with USB 3.0 out and with transfer speeds of 3gbs, with more voltage and higher capacity, you do not need a disc format. Welcome to the new storage medium and that is backwards compat down to USB 1.1. Imagine the new "HD" dvd player. Would have a slot for regular dvd then a USB 3.0 input. Imagine how small a device would be. Imagine doing away with the disc altogether. Besides I think I remember a statement issued out by Intel how they "missed" the opportunity for console processors. Intel could very well power one if not all of the nexgen console cpu's. They can mass produce and well you know the story with Dell . . . Imagine a Nehalem Octacore w/ht! 8Physical, 16logical, yum!
To be fair that's not all that accurate, The Original Box was far more reliable then the PS2. The same way the PS3 is far more reliable then the 360. Sure they made a massive cock up with the RROD but it doesn't mean there next console wont be a decent machine.
i think cost would be too big of a factor. i like the idea though.
Microsoft clearly said (years back) they don't want to go with the Portable Consoles. @ShadyDevil PS4 will be released at least 6 or 8 years more. Sony need to stop supporting PS2 1st.
Microsoft also said they will beat the PS3 this generation. Microsoft says a lot of things. My point is, you pick and choose what to believe and not believe, leaving people looking like fools. I don't know when an Xbox portable will surface, but I want one. No one has yet revolutionize the online space in handheld gaming and I think Microsoft can push that with Xbox Live on an Xbox Portable the way they did with the original Xbox. And for the love of sunny jesus, it better have two analog sticks.
If this is a "successor" though I'd be concerned. I have a vision in my head of it being a tablet like the iPad.
I believe they have said specifically that they will go into the portable market when the time is right.
Kigmal: I can bet I know how an XBP with XBL will play out by extending the 360 strategy. There will be two models: one with a 3G/4G-ish radio, but there will be a Core model without the cellphone-y component... but you can buy the component and plug it in later. Otherwise, it will have Wi-fi from the get-go.
Yeah and Sony said they where dropping the Dualshock controller for good Look how that turned out.
lmao!! Dude your smoking crack...2016-2018?! You really honestly think you won't see another console until 2016 from Sony? Wow I'll pay you a $100 if you're right, needless to say I'm not worried about losing that bet...
^^ that would be funny trouble is no one will buy it if MS does that.
PowerPC??? lmao i hope this isn't true. Apple ditched that tech years ago cause it was too much of a power hog. MS already had a console with overheating problems, hopefully they have learned!
both the ps3 cell and 360 xenon are based on POWER architecture also the wii is power based as well
Isnt the Cell also a Power PC thing?
@ z-hayden I guess that's why the PS3 and 360 use modified versions of IBM's Power PC now, huh? Ignorance is bliss.
Well i certainly feel like an idiot! You learn somethin new everyday i guess hahaha
What did you learn today? That the consoles all use a CPU architecture based on Power PC, or that you need to know the facts before stating a comment? ;) If only all people would come out clean and say that they are wrong when they are in fact wrong.
Buu..buu..buuh... Bluray is no needed!
This generation it is not for the 360. Now troll along little one.
I don't think the "Xbox 3" will come with a blu-ray drive...
***According to early rumored reports the Xbox 360 successor will have a drive that plays both DVD and Blu Ray with software being released on both formats.*** Highly unlikely. You have to program your applications around the read speed of the media, and DVDs have variable speeds for increased reading while BDs have constant speeds. Extremely unlikely anyone would put out a DVD and Blu-ray disc on the 360 for games. Might be used for movie watching, but still just very unlikely considering Microsoft's stance against Blu-ray. Personally, I think it will be moving towards Arcade 360s being bundled with Natal for good. I've also been thinking that Sony might be doing something similar with packaging the Move with all future console releases considering their lack of response to PS3 availability.
I would say that it's likely because of the dominance of the Blu-Ray. I would also say that there's also other options out there, but they're either failed formats or ones that are not adopted for the film industry, so if they do go another route, I would seriously doubt that they would get the film industry's support.
@IdleLeeSiuLung I didn't say Microsoft doesn't use it. What I said is that they won't use it in a console because of the gap it creates in multiplatform development. We have evidence of that gap right now...in fact, it's one of the hottest debates about Sony's choice to use it.
sure. how much would these m$ flash storage untits cost? 100 dollars for a 32 gigabyte card? how much do the m$ hdd's cost again?
It's about time for Microsoft to include Blu-ray!
I have very good information from somone who works with microsoft that they are looking at UHD as there next drive. They will not use blueray
The only people blind to that are the fanboys who actually think Sony and MS hate each other as much as the fanboys hate each other. PS3 and Xbox are only 'divisions' of Sony and Microsoft. I'm sure both companies have tons of contracts with each other for all sorts of things. Anyone who think MS would be to bitter to pay Sony for using bluray is just a blind ignorant fanboy. Simple as that. Don't you guys have any sports teams you could root for? You know, be a fan of something worthwile? Ooh, my friend just bought a cake mixer from Phillips. I'm gonna go call him and rant about how much better the KitchenAid brand is! << That's exactly what being a console fanboy is like.
Yes, people seem to forget this, Sony VIAO computers use Windows OS for example.
Why DVD and Blu-ray that makes no sense
Agreed, that makes absolutely no sense. Edit: Yeah normal DVDs play in blu-ray players so having both seems entirely pointless to me.
I think it's a good idea because it makes the 360 to be versatile. The devs can make a 360 game on Blu ray if a DVD disc doesn't have enough space.
Can't blu-ray drives play DVD's I know dvd drives are cheap but no reason to add the extra cost just use blu-ray or something new
yes blu ray drives can play dvds but using it for gaming might be an entirely different format of reading altogether.. and they dont want to divide the market into 2 so its best to have both.. i believe
Maybe it would be easier that way for the xbox 360 games which are DVD to play on the next xbox.....I don't know but that makes the most sense to me. I doubt it's just for movie playback since Bluray can do that but you can't play 360 games on a Bluray maybe because of some special coding? That's the only thing I got
Nevermind that the tech wasn't ready, neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray, when the 360 launched, there was a whole load of BS between MS and Sony commercial media codecs and security formats. Sony didn't what to use what MS was offering, so MS jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon, pretty much funded the making of the bandwagon, to screw every thing up. If MS had waited the six months they should have, they still would have had their head start against Sony, prevented RRoD, and maybe had HD-DVD inside the 360. As to the article: Are people really not aware that the PS3 plays both BR and DVD? That it upscales regular DVD?
Agree they should have waited for HD-DVD I'm not sure they would have Fixed RRoD They've had 5 years to fix and haven't
RRoD supposedly comes from a combination of flaws in the motherboard design and 3rd rate materials used by a contractor, so another six months on the drawing board, refining quality control, would have helped alot. MS is the Obidiah Stane to Sony and IBM being Tony Stark. Not coming up with the idea or making it real, not understanding the fundamentals, but more than talented at marketing and promoting that idea. Stabbing someone in the back while smiling in their face.
That's not true. I don't know anybody that has bought an Xbox 360 recently that has had it fail on them. It really does seem the problem has been eradicated. Of course there will always be a few people that encounter problems, just as there are with the PS3, but I don't see any signs of it being above normal levels.
I'm gonna have to agree with what FaZtKiLLaR has said. I Don't think 6 extra monthes would have gave MS Enough time to fix the RROD. because It's been 5 years and still It's not completely fix nore does MS Address the Issue. I Don't think time has anything to do with fixing the RROD.
I bought my 360 in 07, and i have never had a problem with it, and my house is always hot and i play constantly for the past 3 years. So it appears the one i got never had problems to begin with. Therefor MS solved it at some point. Or I was lucky.
Look... first the Stane/Stark comparison is shameless anthropomorphizing and you know it. Second, if Microsoft had dealt with the RROD before putting the 360 into production, they would have been in a much better position to fix it permanently. Look at it this way: is it easier to tie your shoes when you're sitting down or when you're walking?
if they waited and added the HD-DVD drive, the system would have cost $500-600.
it might mean that the system would be BC with the 360DVD format
I don't know what the royalty costs behind the blue ray would be for Microsoft, but I can imagine that compared too other let's say next gen discs blue ray most likely makes more economic sense. Also a lot of consumers are already aware of the blue ray brand/name. But as a gamer I hope next gen neither sony or microsoft will go with blue-ray but with a faster(reading speed) storage medium and thus eliminating mandatory installs. My personal favourite still remains the holographic disc, which is rumoured to launch in 2011/2012, though at this time this format might be too expansive too include in a console.
Blu-ray on a MS box? Hmmm not so sure about that..
It's possible since Blu-Ray is the medium that everyone uses.
Wouldn't Sony get some kind of Royalties on every MS Game sold if MS goes Blu Ray?
In other words, yes.
Well that blew out your ass. Who is everyone?
Microsoft really doesn't have any other option. Developers are already feeling limited with the capacity of the DVD so they're going to have to upgrade to compete next generation. It's going to happen.
yeah unless they go digital download only, which atm is really unlikely
and that only lazy people could not get up to swap disks ten times on the same game.
I can virtually guarantee that no console will go digital only. It simply wouldn't be feasible at this point in time.
^^^^ OOOOPPPSSSS! Someone never head about Onlive.
"Steve Perlman stated that a 1.5 Mbps connection will be needed to display games in SDTV resolution (typical output of Wii and previous generation console titles) while 4-5 Mbps will be needed for HDTV resolution, such as those output by the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. The average broadband connection speed in the US at the end of 2008 was 3.9 Mbps, while 25% of US broadband connections were rated faster than 5 Mbps." http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Also, since broadband providers want to put a download cap on everyone, I would like to limit downloading because I tend to download a lot of items for design purposes. Besides, If I buy a game, I want to fully possess the game so I can either sell it later on or trade it for another game if I choose. I hate the concept of purchasing time with the game but not actually have actual ownership of the piece.
i would likely believe this rumour since microsoft feels that this e3 they are going to drop something so heavy they got MTV and GT and spike all to give them major coverage so a new console would be about right. and it would be abit stupid if it didnt have a blu ray.. just a hunch anyway.. blu ray is soon going to be a standard medium and they cant continue to ignore that fact.
A guy I work with apparently is good friends with a MS employee, and he was given one of their grey R&D tester 360's that has the screenshot capture, full game downloads from their server etc... Anyhow, he says that this employee states that the next Xbox will drop sometime in 2011 and that they're well aware of having to upgrade to the standards of today's tech. He could be completely full of BS and I am totally skeptical about it, but he's a pretty reliable dude when it comes to story telling. At least so far...
Ms has to upgrade next gen whether it be digital or blu-ray, and since I think Sony owns the right to Blu-Rays MS could go Digital. I'm not sure about Sony owning that though.
You cant monopolize a media format just because you own it. If Microsoft wanted Blu-Ray in their console, they could do it.
didn't stop them from refusing to let Nintendo use it did they?