No Added Sugar's Mark goes eyes-on with Medal of Honor and argues that EA may be sleepwalking into a public relations disaster with the game's present-day Afghanistan setting and unapologetic gung-ho jingoism.
they need competition, if they dont charge for over-priced maps and have killstreaks that doesnt automatically end a game, it will have my sale
I think it is alot more tasteful when you are making a game or movie based on actual events. Yes I can see where some people would be upset by this and find it controversal, but it is real life and it's real history. I'm much more acceptable to things that are accurate towards history vs. trying to sugar coat it. I would much rather have a realistic historical game than a game that has violence for violence sack and has no real meaning (aka grand theft auto). So in a historical point I think the game is very much justified.
yep. also werent there a few movies about 9/11 that came out a few years ago, no one had a problem with them. how is that any different?
agreed Its not a pretty world anymore... so the sooner people accept the fact some countries actually are war torn s***holes. And as if a video game is anymore intrusive then a Movie... Come'on seriously, if 'Hurt Locker' winner of multiple academy awards can pass and is acceptable for viewers eyes, why cant a videogame do the same thing? Adding a hint of history and realism to a videogame make it that much more playable... some people like myself like facts and history in games... which is why i liked the WW2 CoD games over MW1&2.
Multiple graphic engines being used means different levels of detail in SP and MP... "Medal of Honor's single-player campaign will use a heavily-modified version of Unreal Engine 3 and its multiplayer will use the Frostbite engine." This is dumb, dumb, dumb. For starters, modified UE3 or not, the game looks pretty good. With MP being done by DICE, this is most likely the reason Frostbite needed to be used, and with mo-cap and assets being done on UE3, they couldn't completely swap to Frostbite. Basically, we'll be getting a beautifully epic SP game, with a tacked on, laggy, crashing, MP mode... courtesy of DICE/EA. For those who don't know, Bad Company 2 has some of the worst lag and connection issues seen in a multiplayer game.
I was with you until you started to rag on BC2 mulitplayer. It's no better or worse than any other FPS multiplayer out there connection wise. During the first few weeks it was bad sure, at least on PC. It's smoothed out a lot now for PC as well as being pretty standard on PS3 as well.
BC2 "some of the worst lag and connection issues seen in a multiplayer game"? I'm guessing you haven't play MW2, with its superiour IWNET system. No FPS can beat that for sheer lag.
What the f*** are you talking about? BC2 has the best connection as far as server based multiplayer games go... yes i have played a couple of shockers but generally its pretty f***en awesome. And im in Australia... so believe me if im not complaining as an Australian about lag issues NO ONE can complain. We only have the 1 server which we need to share with New Zealand, and most games i would say the connect would be a Light Green Bar connection. But since i got my new internet plan (100mbps download and 2.5mbps upload) i have been pulling host over almost everyone else in P2P games, so lag for me is no longer an issue.
Ok, seems like you guys don't have any issues, but I've counted 8/9 of my BF friends (PC and PS3) having connection issues with BC2's multiplayer. These include... Constant disconnects. Almost every other round. Rubber banding. Hit detection problems. All around unplayable matches due to "lag". I'm no expert, but when myself and 8 other technically proficient friends from around the world experience the same issues, I see a PROBLEM. Seriously, When our whole clan just up and quits one day after the 200th time disconnecting from a server, its amazing other people still play this garbage.
I can't comment on the console versions but the PC version has been vastly improved. Rubber banding was fixed in last server patch as was lag issues. There are never any connection issues with the game either. The only issue I've had recently was someone shut down their server midway through the game. Weirdest set of issues I've ever seen take place for the next 2 minutes after that, before it finally registered and kicked everyone.
i think that this person is jumping to an extreme conclusion waaaay too early. we still have no idea how they're going to portray US soldiers or enemy soldiers. from the last trailer with the answering machine, they seem to be taking a much more sensible approach than other shooters that puss out of creating a fictional story within real, current events by changing the 'al-queda' party to 'some russian extremists'. only time will tell i suppose.
"Whether Medal of Honor will end up being a highly partisan and sugar-coated advertisement for American supremacy and ‘honour’ or a delicate exploration of the complexity of Afghanistan’s political circumstances is not yet certain- but given Goodrich’s apparent insensitivity to the issues involved, the omens are not good" gotta love the self-loathing American (if he is American). Yes, yes we know, America is pushy and corrupt, and Afghanistan is introspective and "complex" get over yourself.
I wouldn't say Afghanistan is 'introspective.' The Taliban and Al-Qaida both oppress their women and use religion as a justification for murder.
So once again, movies, books, rap songs, country songs and news reports are all ok, but the evil videogame played by less than 0.01% of the worlds population is going to crumble society. When will people realise entertainment media is not a substitute for learning real morals, its just a fun distraction from our lives. “Yeah, sure, we laughed at Timmy, but what’s wrong with laughter. Just because we laughed at something doesn’t mean we don’t care about it. Timmy made us smile, and playing made Timmy smile, and so where’s the harm in that. The people that are wrong are the ones that think Timmy should be protected and kept out of the public’s eye. The cool thing about Timmy being in a band is that he was in your face and you had to deal with him whether you laughed or cried or felt nothing. That’s why Timmy rules.” - Stan Marsh
It's called freedom of expression. There're a bunch of movies set in real world current war settings, one even won an Oscar, why should videogames be any different. Personally, I find constantly fighting the Russians as more of a public relations issue as it demonstrates that Americans still consider them their primary enemy - Russians everywhere should be complaining. It's obvious that America isn't being terrorized by Russians, its terrorists groups primarily from Afghan and Pakistan - which have met some success. Let Americans take out their anger via games on the group of people who are patently trying to harm them, not some forgone enemy. Any way EA portrays US soldiers or the 'enemy' is fair game, they have a right to express their opinions in any way they wish, be it critical of the military of praising it. I for one am looking forward to this game, as it is finally including relevant enemies.
I think people who post these kinds of articles are just looking to find issues that are out of the bloom. C'mon, this is a game, why are you comparing it to real life. Yes, the game is based of real world events, but why would you insist to compare real life events to a video game. Your missing the point about video games. They are supposed to entertain you, not make it all political. There are other places to discuss those real world events.
Shame on you. These are exactly the kinds of discussions we should be having. We can't call games art and then excuse them from the debate about what is tasteful or not. Kudos to the writer for a thoughtful and well-written piece.
As long as the game is good and the situations enhance the story who cares except some lame A$$ bleeding heart. If EA releases this and it is based on "real" situation(S) going on in Afghanistan more power to them, I hope they don't weasel out and make it Afmolgistan fighting the scourge of the randmcnallyban.
Their game someone has to fund the unpopular war.Might as well be the gaming industry.I can't wait for the beta ps. SilentShank #3 "For those who don't know, Bad Company 2 has some of the worst lag and connection issues seen in a multilayer game." Are you sure your not talking about MW2 ive had BC2 since day one for the PS3 no lag no random disconnects host change crap.BC2 has great servers compared to the glitch fest aka MW1.5
the unpopular war is in Iraq not Afganistan even Obama is for the war in Afganistan
Thanks for the comments guys. A lot of you disagree with my points but thanks for respecting my right to make them! I think its an issue worth debating seriously.
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