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GTA IV Cost Microsoft $75 Million

According the Grand Wizard Of Foresight, Microsoft paid Rockstar $75 million to take GTA IV from PS3 exclusive to multi-format.

“GTA IV was going to be a PS3 exclusive, but Microsoft paid Rockstar and Take-Two to make it a non-exclusive, and they paid them a lot,” said Pachter.

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Fishy Fingers2655d ago

Could of been far better spent, at least in my opinion.

hassi942655d ago

It was one of the best selling games ever...

Plus I think this is complete bullcrap, Pachter pulls all his information and theories out of his ass. I'm expecting the Wii HD to come out this year and I should be paying $100 per year for Xbox Live by now, right? Oh and GTAV's coming out this year.

Why does this guy get paid?

sikbeta2655d ago (Edited 2655d ago )

Isn't MW2 the best selling game?

Also, what I assume he's trying to say, is that, even IF M$ got GTA as Multiplat now, that Money could do lot of Real Exclusive Games...

Agree about Pachter talking nonsense almost all the time

Edit:

Oh, sorry, I read "the Best" and not ONE of the Best, so yep, it's one of the best selling games...

SuperStrokey11232655d ago

yeah its not like pachter deals with the financials and the books of the companies every day... oh no wait he does. I can assure you he knows more about the companies and their actions than you do.

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secksi-killer2655d ago

how much did you get paid to say that??? lol seriously you must be getting paid, because i cant imagine people writing stuff like that for free.. oh wait!

but, i think the point is, if they did pay that, then how many DIDNT buy a ps3 because they didnt have to with gta being on the xbox?? the week gta hit, in the uk alone, sales jumped 127% for the ps3 and 125% for the 360(there was an article on n4g about it at the time). i'm sure if they did spend that, then they consider it a good move.

i would say that having gta at the same time, easily helped them stay competitive....could you imagine what wouldve happend if gta had been ps3 exclusive????

corneliuscrust2655d ago

Maybe tone it down a touch? That was pretty bad.

On topic, yeah pachter deals with the financial numbers of the companies that we are not privy to...

But then why is he wrong so very often? The only reason he still has a job is that he is good at staying in the spotlight.

DaTruth2655d ago (Edited 2655d ago )

If MS didn't secure same day GTA4 multiplat release, this entire console war thing would be over by now and PS3 would still be $600.(just kidding about the $600 part)

It was a great move by MS, it just sucked for PS3 gamers!

cmrbe2655d ago

MS could have developed 3 AAA real exclusive titles with that money that would have done wonders for their console and their fans.

JoySticksFTW2654d ago

It's true that Ms could have used that money to fund true exclusives.

But GTAIV as a PS3 exclusive would have been a back-breaker.

Regardless of what we think of the game now, the hype surrounding the game then - and those perfect review scores - Near everyone was waiting for that game. And all the game sales and boosted console sales would have been Sony's. MS had to pay that money.

MS even admitted to making a PS Exclusive hitlist - games that they HAD to have on their system to compete with Sony - same day release, not later date ports

GTA was at the top of the list followed by FF, MGS, DMC, and Tekken

But Sony saw this happening. They couldn't stop it and pulled a Nintendo. Make appealing exclusive characters / games that no one can take from them ever again - Kratos, Drake, Cole, Sackboy

I heard Assassin's Creed was supposed to be PS3 exclusive also, but my man Ken Kutaragi refused to pay for exclusivity. Said he wouldn't let Sony be held at ransom by 3rd party developers.

Saigon2654d ago

You are correct about AC...it was to be a PS3 exclusive but Sony did want to pay for its development...so Ubi decided to take it Multi-Plat...Actually many don't know the game was to be on the PS2 first but the next-gen happened...

On topic, i understand what most are saying about this deal...Overall it was stupid for MS to do this because they could have made 3-4 games with this money but this was a great decision at the end of the day...they needed to stay competitive with Sony...

i just thought about this...how much did the sales increase for the console install base for each system when this game hit? Can anyone get this number?

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Anton Chigurh2655d ago (Edited 2655d ago )

"Michael Pachter: When Microsoft paid Take-Two to make GTA IV non-exclusive... In other words, GTA IV was going to be a PS3 exclusive, but Microsoft paid Rockstar and Take-Two to make it a non-exclusive, and they paid them a lot. The number I've heard, and I'm sure this is right, is $75m, and that probably includes the funding for the first DLC packs too. It's more than the $50m that people talk about."

The original source is from Michael Pachter which makes the whole article waste of Bandwidth .

siyrobbo2655d ago

when has any main GTA game been exclusive to any console?

RememberThe3572655d ago

He is saying he was told this. And Patcher big a prominent guy in the industry especially on the financial side so I wouldn't just shrug this off.

Kleptic2654d ago

Pachter does have a good hold on the financial side of the industry...its his 'predictions' towards trends of 'gamers' that is usually pretty off...he has never had a good grasp of the intangible side of the industry, as in the loyalties of fans and what the consumers deem 'cool'...but financially, people listen to him...

either way though its pretty obvious that if MS did spend this kind of money on GTAIV, in hindsight it may be something they don't do again...but its hard to tell...in 2008 had GTAIV released solely on the PS3...with MGS4 coming soon after...its very likely the 360 wouldn't have the market power it still is trying to hold onto...so was 75 million worth staying relevant in the industry now?...probably...

and thats overall the story of this generation...MS got a jump start, and then dug in...They never needed to blow anyone away with first party exclusives that push development tech to new areas...they just needed to brush off anything Sony would throw at them...and so far this generation, that is exactly what has happened...

look at whats happened so far...EVERY big huge exclusive Sony has given the PS3 has actually had little effect on the 360 and its sales...the only thing that has truely threatened MS has been price cuts to the PS3...when it dipped into the $300 area, the PS3 took off...and has continued to do so for nearly a year...

so if the money spent on GTAIV being multiplat was that high...it still seems worth it...as that was really the last exclusive to really change the tide as far as software...I say that simply because it came so early into both systems life cycles...now individual titles have much less of an impact..its more price and overall libraries, which both have in spades...its no wonder MS pretty much stopped being so crazy after 2008, save the FFXIII announcement, which ended up being nearly pointless...

Sevir042655d ago

That game wasn't even all that! lol!!! and then they poured another alleged 50+ million to get the DLC exclusive, which came out a year later on the PS3.....? Really? For real MS?

All that money and they didn't even ship that many consoles during the launch of GTA4....

that money could have gone on to fund a first party exclusive or better yet Buy a small independent studio.

Glad to see Sony buying Studios. :-)

Taker_1292655d ago

If MS paid that much for GTA4, what a waste! That money would have been better spent on creating an exclusive franchise for the 360. Because god knows the 360 needs some more true exclusives. But we must remember that this is Pachter talking here, so everything he says should be taking with a grain of salt.

boysenberry2655d ago

What he said. Keep on flushing your money down the toilet Microsoft. :)

Sevir042655d ago

Sony didn't pay a dime for this game... in fact it was PLANNED as an Exclusive because thats how they've been released on Sony Platform in the past... But at E307, MS's rep showed up with a GTA4 Tatoo on his arm... They really had to back up the dump truck of cash to get that kinda of same day release. So it was essentially a buy out. much the same way MS did with both Konami and Square! and prolly Capcom and Namco with former PS brand games Like FF, tekken, MGS and DMC. they paid money and i'm very inclined to believe that the bigger the franchise the more MS reached into Bill's back pocket. pulled out that check book and red pen....

"So.....How many Zeros will it take?"

Sevir042655d ago

but it has some truth.. this is a big ps franchise and MS's rep showed up at e307 with that infamous tatoo of "GTA4" on his arm.... and then similar things happened with Square and Konami with FFXIII and MGS:R, personally i believed they pulled out the check book and asked... "So How many zeros will it take?"

DaTruth2655d ago

You guys are insane! It is not about the quality of the game, which most of us never new going into it. It is about the nail in the coffin a PS3 exclusive GTA4 timed or otherwise, would have been!

I would go so far as to say MS had no choice in the matter. R* could have asked for more!

waltercross2654d ago

This is why Sony buys studios up, if sony buys them they can't be bought off.

Hotel_Moscow2654d ago

dammit walter thats there plan sony is all about the marathon there going to buy every single studio

Kleptic2654d ago

it was 2006 that he showed up with the GTAIV tattoo iirc...and it WAS a very big deal...the 360 was already released...and this was the infamous E3 of Sony dropping the ball everywhere...the first real gameplay footage of PS3 games failed to impress...(read: giant enemy crab, and ridge racer...)...and the icing on the cake was the $599 price point for the 'better' PS3...and MS made announcements about GTAIV and showed off Gears 1 footage...they won that E3, no question...

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Solidus187-SCMilk2655d ago (Edited 2655d ago )

LOL, how would he know anything like that.

edit below--- REALLY. you think any company is going to talk to loud mouth pathcer about these things.

Did rockstar also tell patcher that there would be "No more 3rd party exclusives." Because R* themselves are workingon ps3 exclusive agent.

http://n4g.com/news/513869/...

Regardless of where he gets his info, its usually wrong, unable to be validated, or something simple. This is his prediction, or else hed say "microsoft told me" or "R* said."

BRG90002655d ago

Believe it or not, he probably knows what he's talking about here. He has sources in tons of different companies that aid his financial analysis. He works for a big financial analysis firm, that's what they do. I'm actually very familiar with Wedbush Morgan from my own job.

This isn't one of his infamous predictions, and isn't about something nebulous like a console release date. When it comes to financial data in the past he is a pretty credible source.

SuperStrokey11232655d ago

Look at when he said that and when teh game was announced duder. He means in games announced in teh future. You guys seriously spend all day twisting the words of other people.

van-essa2655d ago (Edited 2655d ago )

If Patcher says so, then it must be true.

Denethor_II2655d ago

Considering it didn't cost Sony a penny, yes I agree.

playstation_clan2655d ago

it helped fund agent, lol, thank you Microsoft

rob60212655d ago

helped fund agent and RDR combined you mean.

Hanif-8762655d ago

They made back their money so i think that it was a good move by them :-)

thehitman2655d ago

Didnt make a dime back they took a huge loss even TakeTwo was suprised at the lost the 50mil MS paid for the DLC didnt come close to expectations.

Alvadr2655d ago

Purely speculation. I doubt MS paid anything to get GTAIV on their system 2-3 years ago the 360 was in far far stronger position than the PS3 was..

Its more likley that Rockstar came knocking on MS's door.

They will have only paid for the timed DLC