A leading South African distributor has told MCV that many of the country’s major retailers refuse to stock Xbox 360 consoles due to reliability concerns and the infamous Red Ring of Death (RROD).
I heard the same thing was happening in Germany. Wow Microsoft, just, WOW... Please don't RUSH the 720 to Market just to beat Sony and Nintendo. You're doing your loyal fans a disservice...
Agreed. I'm fairly certain with the backlash Microsoft has gotten over their hardware issues, the next XBox won't be rushed out. Because if it has the same reliability problems, they won't receive the same pass they got for this, and no warranty they produce will be able to save them either. And artsaber, I completely agree. Neither Sony nor Nintendo would have gotten off with this many hardware issues. Microsoft was given a free pass, and whatever backlash was received should have been worse.
Fans are also doing themselves (and Microsoft) a disservice by supporting garbage hardware. Instead of complaining, most 360 fans have been holding the console in high regards ignoring the well documented and proven problems this console has. Even people on their 5th or more console support the 360. And biggame901 mentions the basklash, well, it hasn't been enough if you ask me. There is NO WAY Sony coulda got away with such a shoddy build. The media and the consumer has let Microsoft pass on this problem without any good reason. I will wait YEARS after launch before I would even consider buying the "720". I may miss out on some gaming, but dammit, I won't be had by crap hardware again.
Well said. +1 bubble
agreed. if sony had this problem we'd have "sony is doomed" articles. oh wait - they found a reason to bitch at sony's sales. guess sony will always be the best, and most hated.
A big problem is that the 360 is targeted at apathetic/ignorant kids and parents.
right and the PS2 didnt have shoddy hardware.. artsaber you must be new to gaming. dre errors i saw first hand and everyone is still supporting them like nothing happened. hyprocrites. http://www.google.com/#hl=e... Yes, im sure all those news articles and repair guides(kinda reminds me of something else.. hmm) are just for 360 fanboys??
Compared to 360's. It's funny how the only ones with issues are 360 fanboys. lmfao
is that ms had over a 60% fail rate. All electronics fail, but when a company releases hardware with that high of a fail rate it's [email protected]#$%! I never even heard of the ps2 problems to well after RROD story broke.
Agree, I'll probably wait a few before picking up the next gen MS console. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out early too.
you will be able to play all the microsoft games on your pc. you know, just like this gen. funny how all the people that used to disagree with me are no longer around.
funny.. here i thought the lastest halo games werent on the pc lol
It would be very wise to take your time MS and get it right this time. Go forward (not backwards this time)and give your fans a reason to stay behind you. As much as I love my 360 I gotta admit the red ring fiasco was a terrible experience. Luckily my brother and step son have not had any issues for the past two years.
That is the problem when Microsoft design a console with the worst technical failure in the history of Gaming.
Its about time retailers started looking after their customers interests. South Africa FTW!
I am South African and there is some truth to these claims. Recently 360 stock has gone up (the bundles from Forza etc) but you never see other stores (that sell HDTV's for instance) ever using the 360 for displays. They either use PS3's or Wii's to showcase the TV's. But South Africa is a smaller region... last I recall the PSP sells better then the DS here, but Sony and Nintendo seem to be doing fine here.
They should have done this right from the beginning.
why sony had pull out vaio computers with broken batteries but microsoft didn't have to pull out x360 with 100% failure rate.
Don't think Xbox 360s had a tendency of blowing up or just catching on fire, dude. As is, its bad enough that there were reports that RRoD happened anywhere from 30% to 70% and there was no official backlash. @ClownBelt: Thought that was just a recycled rumor fro the Xbox1 days.
The failure rate is not that high. The highest test failure rate was around 35% the lowest was around 8-10%. The reason why Microsoft chose not to recall the Xbox 360 was the same reason why it was rushed out so early, to capitalize on early sales. Microsoft pretty much did the math on this and figured out that getting an early foothold into the next generation would have been more cost effective than recalling the first line of Xbox360's. For the most part it worked out and American consumers are none the wiser. The 3-year warranty helped ease the minds of many who knew and is a inexpensive policy to take considering the alternative.
OMG I am trolling because I speak the truth and just dont let the lies and distortions come out of you people. LostDjinn: that link doesn't say anything about a lawsuit forcing them to do the warranty. what the heck are you trying to prove with that? "As a result of what Microsoft views as an unacceptable number of repairs to Xbox 360 consoles, the company conducted extensive investigations into potential sources of general hardware failures," Where does it say lawsuit again? ALFAxD_CENTAURO: Same thing to you. this is a discussion about a lawsuit to force ms to cover the system that didnt happen. reading comprehension. like i said i am not denying RROD or that it is epic fail.. just that it is not %100! %100 by law would force a recall. now I know you all play for the sony team but are you really going to agree with %100 failure rate? so far every one of you seem to be. now takes these bubbles away too because its the only way i will stop owning you. and you all cant seem to manage a debate that goes beyond 1 comment. i dont agree or find the rrod acceptable at all! but i also dont want to see the facts twisted. i have no problem with SA shunning Xbox that is their right. if my xbox has a rrod then i will deal with it then for now its been working fine for 4 years. %100 failure rate is a lie and that is what got me started here.
I'm just going to make a quick run through the pending list and go ahead and report all of these articles. Enough is enough.
this console has the biggest failure rate in electronics and letting Microsoft slide would make them win dont hide the facts, if ps3 had 360s failure rate, it would be on every news site ever imagined. microsoft doesnt get/should a free pass.
The amount of 360s sold in America is almost twice the amount of PS3s sold there,and yet the weekly software sales for different consoles are extremely close. Wonder Why?
everyone who bought a 360... had to buy it at least twice!!! my gawd! this is insanity people!!!
Maybe that's because they like the 360 that Much.Its not Insanity that keeps them comming back it's the Game's and the Online and the controllers.It just Feels Right.
If I had a collection of games on my 360(example) and it died on me.. I would be F#@Kin' pissed off! and as much as I would rather switch to a different console, I would have no choice but to get another 360 simply because if I don't, all my 360 games will be useless... but if it messes up the second time... it would be best to take your loses and move on to better things;)
"It just Feels Right." That sounds more like an advert for featherlite durex than it does the 360
theres a rumour going around that says no matter how many 360s sale the amount of players online never increases
I have reason to believe the rumour is true.
@bobdog You missed the point. People shouldn't be forced to buy another console because of faulty hardware.
@army i expect to see you onlin PSN in six months time then:):)
...Micro$oft only care about the U.S.of.A!!! ;-D
er nevermind ;)
I just bought a used 360 elite a couple of weeks ago and I'm always worried that one day it won't turn on. I think it's still under warranty though since it's only a year old.
because of a clock! grow up guys, their video games. You have a pathetic life if you find yourself gettign anythign but excited over them. BOTH SIDES
huh? never happened to me that clock issue was a minor issue. only a minority had that problem and yet Sony fixed it. Totally a different issue that Xbox 360 experienced right from the beginning. the infamous Red Ring of DEATH. The key word is DEATH. yes consoles died.
the clock problem was minor??
clock problem fixed itself in less than 24 hours. No dead hardware, no replacements needed, no money needed to fix it, no law suits, no extended warranties needed. yes, it was minor.
Yes it was minor. Mainly because not all models were affected and it fixed itself the next day. if you think a console not being able to go online for 1 day is bad then what about when Xbl was down for a week? Or RROD that means your consoles goes caput. Of course the PS3 has YLOD and i agree both systems have problems but comparing the clock problem with RROD is retarded.
So you are comparing the Clock that was fixed itself in couple of hours to the Biggest technical failure in the history of videoconsoles ever, that it won't get fixed by itself.
You are comparing a 33%-54.2 failure rate to a minor clock issue that was fixed in matter of hours.
In my country the stores don't sell 360 anymore, we don't have any warranty if the console fail
What country is my country?
this only happens on the gaming industry, any other department would have been a recall 10 out of 10 products. Like my 360 a lot, but this failure issues are just toooo much
Im sorry by my morals and values wont allow me to buy a piece of crap like the x360 when i got something better with more like the ps3 and pc. Im not a slave to society who follows his casual game friends around an make a dumb uniformed purchase like they do just to play with them online. buy any othere system out there ust not the crap hardware x360.
Wow, i thought the jasper models fixed this problem long time ago. Micro$oft should sign a contract with Sony, Philips or any other major electronic company to produce their console.
we won't know if Jasper fixed the problem until 2-3 years after they've been released. If by then the failure rate is still low then they have solved the problem. Unless of course they introduce a major redesign such as a slim model for example, then we're back to sqaure one.
Microsoft just can't do anything right, so what if they sold alot of systems, they only sold alot because people didn't want to wait for their system to come back fix and some buy brought a new one and sold it after they got theirs back that was getting fix (I talk to alot of people that have done that). Sales mean notthing if you can't fix a problem, oh 360 users like to talk about how PS2 had alot of problems but less I check, it didn't last as long as 360's problems. Great games an all but the system itself blows.
At least the prawns can use the parts to escape.:P
only 2/3 of their ships would survive to leave the atmosphere though. lol jk
i blame gamers if we all refused to buy a 360 until microsoft sorted the RRoD, e70 errors etc, maybe, just maybe microsoft would have sorted it what ever the next xbox is, im certainly going to wait awhile before i purchase one
the ones who truly suffer are the south african gamers.
It does speak volumes when a region's MAJOR retailers (equivalent to the Best Buy of USA, etc.) REFUSE to carry your product because it is shoddy. When the RETAILER won't even buy the console to sell to people (For freaking profit - mind you), a South African citizen would almost have to classify via their government as a Class 3 Fool to purchase a 360 at that point. For instance, imagine a Bluray or DVD player that Best Buy refused to sell here due to bad quality issues, as a consumer, you would more than likely avoid that product instead of seeking it out elsewhere. It is unfortunate that Microsoft has to face this issue. But Microsoft did not take RROD seriously enough and fast enough, and the extended warranty was more than likely the result of legal advice instead of compassion for its customers. Many customers compounded the issue by supporting the 360 with issues instead of validly complaining, demanding, and requesting a speedy fix as a community, as a WHOLE. The so-called fix/redesign has come wayyy too late, and it does not rectify the problem 100%, because people are still getting RROD, just not as frequently. This is a shame, because I loved the sturdy original(but bulky)Xbox system that brought us Halo1. We all know that a certain series had DVD Rom issues, but that is not what we are talking about here. The 360's problem is fatal in comparison... hardware-wise and reputation-wise (as you can see here). It took a while for the word to get around and hit home, but it is definately affecting 360 sales now - as small or large as they may be.
I only owned one xbox.. An i just might buy one next generation.. It's sad..
you just earned yourself an ally south africa.
See guys PS3 will always have the black community on their side cause its a more reliable console plus we know are consoles before we buy them if you can clearly remember what happen when the PS3 was release all those crimes were done by a African American, even in Africa they support the PS2 I can't wait to see what happens when africa gets their hands on PS3 its could be outbreaks of fights in the streets that how crazy we are.
CryWolf you're joking right? how backwards do you really believe Africa is.PS3 was launched same time as the world. I think you need to go and watch the world cup.And then go back to school, your English sucks.
@Crywolf people get stabbed over ps3's, you don't see that happening for an x360, people know playstation is a reliable brand, yes it's not perfect it has issues like disk reading errors on ps2, and YLOD on fat ps3's, but YLOD problem is very small.
I don't like the 360, I have an elite that scratched 2 Rock Band discs already. If you want definite proof, it is very easy to get. Walk by your 360 when you play games and it may happen. Don't blame me for scratching your games though.
my friend work for customer service for xbox and he said it is the worser experience he ever have, xbox has a lot of factory defects and issues and wrong designs.
trash belongs at the dump not my living room or a retail store.
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