In the E3 washup, at least as for as console hardware goes, the Nintendo company gave their rivals a run for the money.Meanwhile both Microsoft and Sony came away being outshone and with some issues to contend with.
Barely any software + a wheel that Nyko's had for a while + a gun that was shown at TGS '05 + exercising on a gaming console (which has already been done, mind you) = Riding high?
Is it just me, or are some people too easily amused?
I don't get the feel that Nintendo was even far the most notorious in E3 this year... In fact, the only thing that appeal to me was Metroid Prime 3 and a promise of a new Zelda, tis time really wii-maked... I'm not buying a pistol if the Wiimote was supposely a pointer for that, with a trigger and all. And will not pay for doing exercises that i can without a videogame system...
Sorry Big N, i'll wait for more spotlights in the games and less in the stuff for TGS.
The pistol is actually just a shell for Wiimote to plug in, similar to the nunchuk, so it shouldn't be too expensive.
yes the wiifit is out of this world, did you see how much fun that women was having while the guy was stepping up and down.
I know that the zapper is some kind of case for wiimote, and not a lightgun itself, but i assuming the wiimote is ideal for FPS itself, don't need a plastic toy for that, this just don't look so useful, low cost or not.
Even worse that the zapper almost compel you play left-handed on the trigger (to come the grip in your right shoulder) cause it makes you go with the nunchuk behind the wiimote, putting the trigger far in front of the grip... Looks more simples to get the wiimote as a pistol (right or left-handed you decide) and move normally with nunchuk in other hand.
Looks more interesting a position more like that new PS3 pistol. Grip and trigger in the same hand and the nunchuk could go in the side of the weapon. The Wii could even make it better, making a long barrel thing, and the nunchuk could fit in both sides so anyone can play it (the Time Crisis 4 pistol will not fit the left-handed).
PS: Sorry for the crap english.
but I am so tired of Wii-fit. After seeing all the great games that were at E3, I don't think Wii-fit should have been up in the top spot.
With all the crap you gotta buy for a wii its more expensive then the damn ps3 and 360.
good one BubblesDAVERAGE
Nintendo bores me now. I have a Wii and the only thing i do is play a few VC games once in a while. Im not sure what to look foward to with this system. Maybe only Mario Gal.
Why is the wheel a big thing?
How does it help? It's not connected anywhere, so you're just as free to move it around and around as you are the Wiimote itself. And Nintendo went on to say that with the wheel, you can use the trigger on the back of the Wiimote.
Can't you use it already? =|
I think someone missed E3 this year... the author.
lol. Yea Perhaps he was thinking of the E3 2006?
I just looked at this post and imagined thousands of gamers simultaneously screaming out in agony...
I think we can assume that its writer is a casual gamer. Plus, truth be told, WiiFit (for some people anyway) was the biggest actual news that any of the conferences supplied. MS's biggest was an ugly 360 and Sony's was a PSP redesign.
MS and Sony's may have been better, but I guess for the people reading summaries of E3 instead of watching trailers (aka the writer of this article) it would seem that Nintendo threw more breadcrumbs of news to the hungry masses of frantic gamer birds.
Still, Sony did a better job.
I think the actual gameplay of Killzone 2 was bigger than the psp redesign.
How was wii-fit the biggest news at E3? It's just announcing a perpherial. And there aren't going to be any new hardware announcements, because all three consoles have been released. AT this point, it's about games. And most of the ones you've seen on youtube (seriously, Youtube? lol, go to gametrailers for better quality) are videos of live demostrations.
Well I was really hoping for a PSP/PS3 firmware update and maybe a tv tuner peripheral to use my PS3/PSP like a location free tv. Those things are sort of expensive, although they are kewl and I am thinking of getting one. I think a usb attachment for a tv tuner and a firmware update to turn it into a location free tv base station would be the biggest announcement. Sadly, no announcement. =(
I really don't know what this author is on about. Sony and Microsoft both took the professional and informative approach required by the new E3, wheras Nintendo's conference had all the layout and pacing of a kid's tv show. Not that Nintendo's conference wasn't successful, but in order to consider Nintendo's conference vastly superior to the other two, you'd have to have a mental age of about 9, or have has half a gallon of sugar in your blood at the time.
They're gonna choose Wii Fit over Killzone 2? Don't make me laugh any harder than I am at TheMart.
your not funny, stop posting
In Japan the wii is killing the 360/PS3, but anywhere is not the PS2 is. Japan counts for like 65 percent of wii and ds sales. Nintendo is short supplying the west to drive up demand. Think about it, they sold 8 million units and they are short on supply, Why? The wii is not made of any special components and even M$ was able to ship 10 million units in a year with component shortages. The wii is doing the same thing the gamecube did, it was over hyped and by the time 2 years came it was forgotten. Nintendo is successful in Japan but the west it's a different story. If the wii was beating the PS2/360/PS3 in the west like they are in Japan then it would be a different story. Until then PS3 will still be King within a year.
You do realize Nintendo just has one factory producing Wii's. No word on if they got that second factory yet.
Nintendo is selling approx. 1 million units every month.
Nintendo is on track to sell way more then 10 million by the 1 yr mark.
Your mark has moved up. The GC peaked in it's first 4-5 months of life. If the Wii was following the GC it would've already had a price drop back in May.
Nintendo riding high after E3 lol
I had a PS2 before my xbox you tool, so shut it
also your a coward who has to hide behind a computer by blocking me. You have 2 bubbles cause no one here likes you except the other demented few who post here.
Yep thats it Crack
I finally Got My Ps3, with a copy of Ninja Gaiden, and A brand new TV !!!
So its off to the games for me Gents.
Have a good night
Wow....Author missed the boat on this one........
A company trying to pass off exercising as a video game? No thanks, I'll just continue to lift weights to music thank you very much.
They totally slapped every hardcore gamer in the face with a: You pay for what you get.
"If we ignore the software side for the moment"
Wasn't software about 90% of the show?
90% of the show was youtube videos.
This guy Obviously works for Nintendo, there's nothing to see here!:0
Univeresly all xbox 360 and ps3 fans do we agree this is bullshyte!?
Wow finally something 360 fans and PS3 fans can agree on. I think the apocalypse is coming, lol.
Children are easily amused, But you gotta be a child to buy a wii.
As Nintendo once stated, we don't make computers, we make toys.
Ninty I give you the award for making the most successful non-gaming-gaming machine I've ever seen so far. I really don't know what else to say about this thing. It's like a damn crock pot or champagne opener. Everyone's got one, but they only use them on special occasions. Wierd
Where both PC and Mac tell Linux to shut the hell up. lol
maybe he was writing in a casual gamer perspective?
And all of you are screaming from a " fanboy"( or you people like to call your self "hardcore" gamers) perspective?
no wonder you people dont agree. XD
alot of people miss the big picture when it comes to the Nintendo Wii and "casual gaming". The Nintendo Wii is a games console, nobody is disputing that. Those who play it are therefore gamers. That much is obvious.
But imagine a world where Sony and Microsoft both realise it's more profitable to make games consoles like the Wii. Instead of the technological battle between the 360 and PS3, we get a battle of cute gimmicks, a battle of who can dominate with the simplest to use and cheapest games machine.
Now all of a sudden, where calling yourself a gamer you used to receive the title of "nerd", people are now saying "oh, i'm a gamer too! This game is really cool, it lets me pretend I really have a sword!"
In my opinion, we're all gamers, yes, but there needs to be some distinction between gaming on a console like the 360 or PS3, and gaming on a console like the Wii. To stop gaming from becoming one big gimmick.
Good post, Good post, My good MAN
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that conference bored the sh!t out of me i actually started playing call of duty 3 after it was halfway done that's how sad it was
like you are giving your opinion, he giving his opinion.
Wow, just...wow. I dont even know how to respond to this. I mean sometimes you hear someone say something and you realize that some people really just dont live in the same world you do. Wow.
Wow so in 2 years from now, after buying all the wii accesories i could've bought a PS3. Not that expensive no more.
Nintendo is in position to achieve Blue Ocean. All you "hardcore" gamers are screamming foul, but us "Non-hardcore" gamers who are now either getting into gaming or getting back into gaming can see the big picture. I think Nintendo will be doing Sony and Microsoft a favour. Bring in or bring back gamers to this industry and I think some of them will want the fancy graphics and buy a PS3 or XBox360. Seems to me that the world is big enough that gamers of all sorts should be able to get along.
Sony blew everyone's socks off with new IPs, and announcements about timed exclusives showing us that the games are coming!
MS showed us that this fall is going to be AMAZING for 360 owners...
Nintendo...well, still hasn't convinced me to get a Wii.
Nintendo has to many gimmicky games, many of which get terrible reviews. Don't get me wrong, the Wii has and will continue to have amazing games...however I feel that I have outgrown them. I'm not interested in playing Mario this or Mario that (unless it's a real Mario game).
I would take the game lineup of the PS3 and especially the 360 over the Wii any day.
This just shows you need to be in the right place at the right time & some fool will let you write anything you want.
This guy could not have seen E3, theres no way! He should be fired!
thats lame from a hardcore gamer perspective.
What are you talking about?
Sony was the company that won these are the real ratings for who won off of E3.
Sony slaughtered everyone Microsoft by a 12% lead and Nintendo by a 26% lead.
From games to surprises Sony destroyed everyone
especially w/ that halo killer game Killzone 2
hell Microsoft slaughtered Nintendo by 14%
But the real story all comes down to Sony.
I like SNE too, but rubbing people's noses in things isn't the way to get ahead my man. Humbleness is a gift from God.
I don't want the big boy consoles flooded with crap-ware. I'll buy a Wii for that.
This just goes to show that the current videogame media is biased towards Nintendo and their "revolutionary" console, the Wii.
Guess what Droids the PS3 is still in third place and not showing any sign of moving up. 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd
Way to go Nintendo! It's nice to see you back where you belong.
What do PS3 consoles sales have anything to do with an E3 press conference? Nintendo did not have the most impressive conference, nor the second. They were dead last, and E3 polls show that. Pull your head out of your ass.
I have owned an xbox360 pretty much since it was released. I have also owned a ps3 for the majority of the time that it has been available and I also bought a nintendo wii this past January. Personally, I can relate to all forms of gaming. I have gamed my entire life and played everything from the most hardcore to the most casual games available. My children enjoyed the nintendo wii for a few weeks and then became bored with it. Even they find the games to be rather shallow and prefer to play on the 360. I play on the ps3 and the 360, and have not played the nintendo wii for 3 months. I got tired of looking at it sit there, so I just unplugged it. I'm hoping the games like metroid and mario will get me interested, but I have an idea that I'm going to be busy playing halo 3, call of duty 4, bioshock, and other games that I haven't been playing since I was 12. I have literally tried to make myself find the wii entertaining, but it is what it is.....short-term fun for those that simply don't know any better. I believe that most casual gamers that start off with a wii will eventually buy an xbox360 or ps3....you can't help but notice the difference in quality.
" believe that most casual gamers that start off with a wii will eventually buy an xbox360 or ps3....you can't help but notice the difference in quality. "
so nintendo is doing what it should be doing : expanding the market.
something what sony and MS fail to do.
"I wonder if the only reason Droids are hating this is because the Wii along with the 360 is kicking the sh!t out of the PS3?
Guess what Droids the PS3 is still in third place and not showing any sign of moving up. 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd 3rd"
Well apparently, guy, "Microsoft and Sony came away being outshone and with some issues to contend with and MS needs to rethink" So, yeah, that's bull.
I own a Nintendo Wii and a PS3, in no way do I count Wii as a next gen console, far as I go, it's 360 Vs PS3. I respect nintendo, loved every console up to the wii, however, the Wii is too gimmicky and with that it's going to sell like hotcakes. It's a fun party system, pick up and play some game with friends for a little bit, other then that, it's my zelda/mario box/old games box.
It's just so different from PS3 and X-box, in no way do they need to "Re-think" because they were the best at E3 and at the end of the day, the online gaming, the main gaming will be done on PS3 and 360.
"To stop gaming from becoming one big gimmick."
lets say the Wii was as powerhouse as the 360/PS3 you would say something different right?
"Instead of the technological battle between the 360 and PS3"
Nintendo didnt see a reason to make powerhouse now, first things first and that is convincing the new market : the "casual" gamer.
A powerhouse machine could take the price up higher and thats one thing what will make people walk away because they dont game and are not sure if they should spend 400 dollars/euro's on a "gaming machine"
Its not a suprise if nintendo will make their new console way stronger and able to compete with sony and MS on the hardware part.
but Nintendo promised not to make a console again if they fail, so for those who hope this, keep on hoping but i will doubt that will happen.
you seem to have once again missed the big picture. Nobody ever denied the Wii will sell more units. At least I never did. As I said in my previous posts, the Wii is "nice and cute" enough to remove the stigma of "nerdiness", and cheap enough to convince the majority market to buy it.
But that's not my point at all. I'm not into gaming for "nice and cute", i'm into gaming for cinematic plots, adrenaline pumping excitement, a captivating way of entertaining myself in my free time, a way of keeping my mind busy, and of course, to feel talented at things that typically I would not have the opportunity to do.
The only way to make a games console accessible to the wider market is to alienate the people who play for these reasons. I tried the Nintendo Wii, Wii tennis, for the first time at the science museum, and I lost to a mother and her six year old by one game (they made me use the Pink wiimote too, but that's besides the point!). Don't make the mistake of assuming I hate the Wii because I lost, but consider how that was possible.
The Wii doesn't rely on realistic movement to win, at least not on Wii tennis. It relied on twitching the wiimote at precisely the right moment before the ball hit. I lost because I hadn't figured that out. I was actually trying to hit the ball when my character should.
Ok, I think all MS and Sony fans can agree on one thing, they won in E3. Nintendo really didn't show much besides youtube videos and Wiifit.
"Nintendo promised not to make a console again if they fail"
That true ? If so then I'm glad they're doing this well, I don't want to see nintendo go anywhere.
Stop being a Nintendo fanboy.
For god's sake, there is NO SOFTWARE for the TYPICAL (not hardcore, not even casual) gamer.
OOH, LOOK AT ME. I'm cooking and serving the world. Like, wtf?
It's not a manner of people hating on Nintendo or anything, it's just that as long-time gamers, we don't want the quality of our games to be as best as say, WiiSports.
As far as expanding the market goes, studyies have shown that only a mere 10% of all Wii owners are new to gaming. Yes, that's approximately 800K new gamers, but out of these, how many do you think actually buy software as it comes out? Heck, how many do you think even own anything other than WiiSports?
Yes, it's true that once a Wii is brought into a hosuehold, people get interested. But guess what? They REALLY don't go and buy a game each.
For ****'s sake, stop thinking out of your ass for once.
Nintendo is KILLING gaming, regardless of what they'll have you believe. Both with the DS, and the Wii.
And go ahead, un-bubble me.
It's not like you've got any Wii software that you could be playing rather than just being here defending Nintendo 'til death.
Like DJ stated, Nintendon't only showing a scant few games does not a victor make! This E3 belonged too Sony. ;)
Nintendo easly had the worst showing
" - @ Sidar
Stop being a Nintendo fanboy."
im not a nintendo fanboy, im just more open to things unlike you ps360fanboys.
im getting all consoles so no fanboy here i dont really care about hardware more about software.
Nindendo is killing gaming?
HA! you should stop thinking out of your C*nt.
i wont un bubble you because you slightly attacked me, i would only do that if you are a complete moron.
Even if this audience doesnt buy games, its better for US! more wii owners means more DEVELOPER support what also means the chance of more quality games for us.
Read your posts again before calling yourself an unbiased gamer.
And buying all consoles doesn't meant squat.
Lastly, maybe you need to find out what GAMING really is, and how it differs from everyday chores, and keeping healthy.
Again, get your head out of your ass, or Ninty's ass, whatever.
And yeah, you go wait for your quality games to come out in 2-3 years.
Leave the rest of us to play our quality games now.
Err..bubbles, anyone? =\
So does anyone think Wii sells will taper off ?
If So When ?
I don't have anything against Nintendo, but, it is what it is.
And in carrying on the legacy of the Gamecube, when will the sales start to drop off.
Comments anyone ?
Yeah KillZonE3 reminds me of why i hate kidtendo so much and how much the company cares for their hardcore fans.
their killer app a fitness game? give me a break its already been done by Sony you stupid idiots its called kinetic.
Some of this stupid internet tards just cant give Sony the props they deserve no matter how much ownage of a show they had, damn idiots!
By we I mean Xbox and PS fans.
Wii hatred seems to be the only thing which can unite us, and I'm happy for it. Long live the 2 GAMING consoles of the next generation. E3 was better when we had 3 gaming companies showing off their sh**.
Wii is trash, making someone play Wii would be like making them eat your sh**.
Also, Sony won E3 quite clearly.
Personally I thought that all three companies put on a good show. Microsoft has some really hot titles coming out before Christmas. Sony has some great stuff that will be out by the end of Q1 '08 (this financial year, according to Phil Harrison). And Nintendo has some good stuff, too.
I don't think that any of the three really blew me away. It seems like once again 2007 is going to be the year of the FPS, as if there aren't enough of them. Sorry, but Killzone is still an FPS in a crowded market for that type of game. I really hope it is a success, though. As if there is any doubt.
I'm just glad that we have titles like Assassins Creed, Heavenly Sword, Mario Galaxy and Metroid to look forward to. There's a lot of diversity coming for all of the platforms, so I think that we gamers are the big winners after E3.
" And yeah, you go wait for your quality games to come out in 2-3 years.
Leave the rest of us to play our quality games now.
did i stopt you from playing any games?
All i said was the Nintendo Wii will do fine when it comes to " enjoy" us with gaming.
"Lastly, maybe you need to find out what GAMING really is, and how it differs from everyday chores, and keeping healthy. "
What gaming really is?
dont give me that bullcrap, its not a job and specially you shouldnt be upset by the Wii.
you are so scared that nintendo might be a standard thing( what wont happen anyway)
While the future will be full with traditional games of today, thinking Nintendo will destroy the gaming industry is afreaking joke.
And asking for a bubble is kinda sad.