Over 80% of 25,000 voters would rather have the PS3 lowered in pricing, rather than have a bundle pack.
Sony's not listening.
Laughing At You Lemmings.
Blind Lemmings, Sony Loves You.
@10: Go ahead if it makes you feel better. I don't curse like some OTHERS have to resort to, on this website.
I'm just stating MY OPINION, and it was related to the news article.
besides, it's not that hard to create another account and start off with fresh bubbles. Do yourself a favor, and add me to your hate (ignore) list.
@16: Now you know why I call them blind lemmings.
@1.5: TyvM. I will have alot more fun then YOUR going to have THIS holiday season, since all your games aren't coming out until 2008.
Xbox360 has done sooooooo much to fix Rings of death problem... lets just give warranty and people still suffer . GET A LIFE
Pie? You need to cheer up.
Thanks man ... I'm a lot happy now then I was. Really ... that dude was awesome to watch and listen to.
you are really sad
Cyber you're so desperate its friggen hilarious. HAhahah, Cyber U Mad? Its been a bad week for the 360 I know, I know It hurts. BTW good luck with your warranty have fun when Halo3 blows up your 360.
Why would anyone buy the a PS3 with 2 games if those games don't interest them?
Cyber you punk ass trick go post somewere else how bout this, just in 100% of 360 owners would like for microsoft to get thier heads out of thier ass and fix the 360's many problems! XD
I think there might be true in what that "important" guy from Konami said, and he said there there will be one more price cut before Christmas. What does that mean? Well i think that one SKU that will cost 399$ is very possible, and it makes logic if they want to reach those "11 million units sold" by March 08.
when they all sell out at $499.. it would be good 4 them to drop the price of the 80 gig by at least 50 dollars.. or more
Whoa, if that silver PS3 comes out im getting that one.
Yeah all in all i would rather the cheaper console over the bundled games at the same price. Unless they where gonna give me the games and extra controller for free at the reduced price. Then it's just gravy.
This helps them realize what consumers want...
I think Sony realizes that it simply is not going to have a strong enough line up to counter the 360 this Christmas (that's not a bash) and IS prepping for a $399 PS3, which would be great as I could buy another one.
Another funny tidbit to consider is that a $399 price point for a PS3 is actually also beneficial to Nintendo as well! A WiiS3 is possible then, instead of a Wii60.
However, if Sony decides to go back to the $599 pricing after the 60GB model is depleted, Sony might as well just pack it in. It would be the stupidest move ever for Sony to backtrack on their $499 (popular) price point.
Sony had better start dropping prices in Europe as well, as those poor sods have gotten it on both ends from Sony this year.
well... its not about the overall lineup. I truly think that the ps3 has the best and most diverse lineup of the season. Its about 1. Is the price really worth the games? 2. does ps have what it takes to overcome the halo effect? 3. How can sony start to really market their system, not only for its quality but also sell the system through its hardware?
The first two questions will be answered by the third question. Marketing is almost the only chance that sony has this winter season.
so what are some other hopes?
1. A price cut of the 80gig by november. Im talking down to 450. its plausible by then and would help out the company.
2. Brand recognition. This is something that is free but still as important as ever. If they drop the price of the 80 gig ps3 to 450 (even still 500) parents and kids alike will pay the money for the ps brand.
So, in summary, even if hardcore gamers disagree the price cut along with good marketing and, as always, the ps brand recognition will make sony a winner this holiday season.
edit: i can see someone disagreed with me, i dont mind t but i would like to know why :).
this is the 4th thread I have seen you try to get a flame fest going in, you've just been reported :)
at this news. but it makes sense. The logic being that if they cut the price more people can get the system. More people get the system means more games coming out.
I consider myself one of them and hope Sony reduces the price in Europe. The bundle is a good one if you want both games, but as i want Haze or UT3 instead for Resistance, so i`ll hold until they hopefully drop the price around winter.
300 million and they only viewed 25'000 so they havent even viewed 300 million people in the U.S.
u kidding too ? ..
there are more people out of america.. so what makes u think that they can ask all the ppl what they want?
portions of a 1000 or more represent a whole. It's basic college statistics man. A poll of 25,000 people gives a real good idea about what the whole population wants. Accurate polls have been done with much less then 25,000.
It's pretty much a givin that the PS3 is really high priced. It needs to come down. With all these great games coming out this fall and winter, a price drop would really help spur sales.
to add onto what fenderputty said, 25,000 people can be representative of a population of well over 300,000 million. However, it depends on how the data was collected. In this case. random sampling would be the only way to go about this poll and it would have to be done scientifically.
$600 is very intimidating to a lot of consumers I'm sure.
Plus people like to choose which games they want so a bundle isn't always the best idea. Would have been better to let the consumer pick which free game they wanted .
I was thinking the same thing and I believe that SNE will respond appropriately for that market. They are listening to the people and know what we want. We want a PS3 in a PS2 world. It'll come.
Please help me get my fifth bubble back guys. Thanks.
This is the biggest proof ever of what I have said about peeps. Most are just not brilliant,
dude. the system is flawed. a lot people dont take bubbles because of off-topic post,offensive post, or spam. they take it cause they disagree with you. nothing can be done about it i just got back my fifth bubble, took like 3 weeks and im just an unbiased gamer.... :(
...guilty conscious anyone?
re: the bubble system as I'm sure others have as well. Oh well I'll keep on posting my thoughts and getting bubbles knocked down for that in the meantime. Just a matter of fact I suppose. I still love N4G, but a little more attention to detail could make it so much better. Maybe it'll get there all the way someday ~ or not. -]
did u notice how we both got disagrees without any explanation? ironic isnt it?
$600, thats like £300 over here in the uk.
Nobody would moan at that price.
Considering when ps1 launched it was £299 in uk. and your getting a ps3 for that price.
In the uk the ps3 is £399-425. A hundred more pounds, or $200-250 more.
Its not a few dollars more(pun intended) its a fist full of dollars(sorry couldn't resist)
anywway, resistance and motorstorm are great games...
and if sony are going to make 11 mln. by the end of march 2008, they definately will make a 499$ price.
p.s. btw, there was some news story, where (as far as i remeber) capcom hinted about next ps3 price cut later this year. :)
Sony should listen, hell this is a BBC poll!lol, sony better listen
Especially with the target of 11 million by march 08.
This won't be achievable even with the quality games being released before March.
Also, a lot of the AAA exclusive distributors/developers would undoubtedly be complaining to Sony about the small user base for their titles - and less profits for themselves as well as Sony.
I'm guessing by xmas/new year there will be at least a $100 price drop WORLD WIDE(or a new SKU & stock run out as in North America) packaged with the return of the rumble controller and free games/videos. That's the only way the 11 million target will be achieved in the light of the competitive market the Ps3 is in.
That's my thoughts anyway. I'm going to note this comment and check on its accuracy in March 08.
is not a statistic u can ignore. it would be wise of sony.
but same story for me. Before I even look at the games I'm looking at the price for the console. $600 is way too high.
We want a Cheap PS3, a bundle doesn't make it better, maybe worser!
It's only perceptions when expectations are not met.
The price cut is coming. We've always known this as it always happens. But Sony is most likely still making losses on each console sold. So until they get production costs down and sell more games, we just have to be patient. The price will stay high to reduce the losses until they can make cheap consoles and the games come and start selling well.
Suspicious though with the run out of old stock in NOrth America. If this happens worldwide as well, they may have gotten the production costs down to justify a world wide price cut.
I would buy the ps3, but I guess i'm not alone caude I am waiting for a price cut as well!
But it will be a long time before I buy one cause I am waiting for it to cost $300-$400, and they have to have games on it that I want to play.
I think the ps3 may be a good system, buy it's just not worth it right now. And no I will not buy it and wait on games! They will have to have a few games on their greatest hits list as well... and I don't mean resistance and motorstorm!
those who have said 25,000 of 300 million is nothing, remeber this is UK pubic opinion and that its actually out of about 60 million. even still this is most definately a statistic to take note of. Remember the world doesnt revolve around the US.
Surely the bbc.co.uk/news made that obvious.
even admitted once the 80gb comes out they will have a price cut but tune in for the Tokyo game show they will answer all of your questions
comes on next week
look it up
remember you can always ask to have your system without any games
seriously no joke
is next week? are they showing final fantasy 13?
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