The Advanced Media Network sat down with Epic's Mark Rein and Cliffy B to chat about their big E3 announcements and learned some sad news about the new Gears of War PC content.
Honestly guys we should really fire up an online petition about this. We can affect change. It worked for what, a Bioshock limited edition, and something else I can't think of right now. Anyway, I really want these new chapters as premium content on the marketplace, I'd pay for them. I love the campaign, but it does feel chopped up in spots. Maybe they cut parts on purpose, to reinsert them in the PC campaign, like fighting the Brumak. Anyway, I just want the full Gears campaign experience. Anyone up for an online petition? We'll get what we want if we make our voices heard.
Maybe they think PC gamers will see it as an old port that has already been played if they did not have new content. I imagine they will sell more if it has something special.
Let me give you some advise take what you can get while you can. I know 360 owners will get stuff in the future that PC users wont have maybe diffrent campaign stuff.
Also i'm not going to sway your mind not to, but when you get a petition with a bunch of names to try get content over to the 360 from the PC version it's going to back fire. It's happened with lots of companies in the past who scrapped or delayed stuff cause fanboys want everything and give nothing. Just take what you get when you get it before you screw your selves over.
Nicely said Cook1eman. Bubbles for you.
I have no problem with a game going crossplatform or to PC but I do get sad that the devs dont share the same exeperience across the platforms.
One of them said that they wont do it because then there wouldnt be a reason for people to buy the PC version. The reason would be that the customers has a PC and not a 360. No matter how good the game is or how much extra content they put on the PC version, I will not get it because I gave up PC gaming a while ago. If I was interested in PC gaming still I probably wouldnt have a 360 and would just play all he games on the PC.
If they released more single player content on XBL I would buy it. If their choosing not to sell it to people like me then thats to bad for them, I have other games I can spend my money on.
They should market it as a Gears 'expansion.' Add the 250 gamerpoints and the achievements and what not.
I'd pay 1000 points for it.
And Epic would make money off it!
They already did this, it is called like annex or something.
Hey every port has to have it's exclusive things. I dont know what your all worrying about, your most likely going to get exclusive stuff PC users dont get. Take what you get dont whine about it.
That content will be a push to buy the PC version for people. But for me the level editor would have been enough.
I dont think the 360 fanboys care about the editor, but that is going to be changing point for gears gameplay. There mainly mad that epic included the good stuff for PC and not for the 360. It's a strategic move by microsoft/epic thats going to move the game as fast as the 360 did.
I've already expressed my frustration over this whole thing and I've come to the conclusion that if they were to release it as DLC, then I probably wouldn't pay for it, pending the PC version cost.
I've already spent $80 on it ($70 Limited Edition + $10 maps), so adding more content would make it at least $90, and why would I pay more than what the PC gamer pays?
By the time PC launches the games been out for a year and its not going to keep its 60/70 value from last year. The only reason you pay that much for the game and extra content is cause microsoft makes the prices for the extra content thats not included in the retail game. For the PC version Epic is putting this all on the retail disk and is charging $60 (regular $50 for a pc game) not microsoft. If microsoft were incharge of the content for the PC ver. we would be charged up the ass too for extra content.
I see what you're saying, but I just think it's unfair for them to get more content than we have, for a cheaper price. Obviously it was our choice to buy everything, but why should they get MORE for less? If it wasn't for the 4+ million gamers that bought it in the first place and made it so popular, then there wouldn't even be a reason for them to want to bring it to PC.
"Hey, you made our game popular, so we're gonna use that to give bonus content to PC users at a cheaper price."
Complete bullsh*t in my opinion.
Hey you know what it really is bullsh** for the 360 players who basically made gears how popular it is today. I think that Epic is doin this to show Microsft that, thats not the way the promote the game. If you remember back when GoW was announced Epic said they would not charge for anything extra for the game. Microsoft see's past the point where they made there money and want more. Unfortunatly microsoft doesnt share the same vision of epic and tries to get money from anything they can. Anything meaning all the other games that charged people for content that was already on the disc. The most you can hope for is a sponsor for new content so you dont have to pay for it.
Hey, if MS does lower the price on 360 (as rumored) and they double their install base, you're telling me this isn't coming to 360, even though most of the texture, AI & physics work is already done?
I don’t believe it. They just want everyone to focus on the PC version because it is almost ready for retail. A few months down the road, it will come to 360.
Gears was fun while it lasted. I'm just going to move on.
a million copies Unreal on the PC,so it looks like they are going to use Gears Of War to try and do that for them.Gears Of War will never sale 5 million on the PC simply because a lot of PC gamers like 1st person shooters.
Yeah it's kinda hard to sell software on the PC because not everyone meets the system requirement standards.
But what makes console games so great is that you don't have to spend a sh#tload of money just to upgrade your console and have it run one of your games. Now for PCs that's a different story.
my 8800GTX can handle that
So basically during this E3 we learned that epic turned its back on the 360 after we gave them much success. Not only is this content exclusive to PC, but UT3 is now a timed PS3/PC exclusive. After buying 4 million copies of Gears from you guys, this is how you repay us?
They didnt turn there backs on the 360 community.
They need the added content which is not even that huge on the pc so that people on the pc decide to go get it instead of going to gamestop and getting the preowned copy where they do not see a charge.
UT3 is going to the ps3 first for two reasons.
1. They believe that they want to bring out the best version of the game first. Ps3 was the best they got so its coming out soon were as the 360 takes time to make.
2. Do you really think they are going to release a game like UT3 during a time period of Halo 3, Mass Effects, Call of Duty 4? Come on man be serious. They know what they are doing. Ps3 does not have that much coming out in the Holiday that can compete with UT3. 360 does.
Let them do there thing. They know what they are doing.
The game is nearly a year old on the 360. Epic needs something different in the PC version to attract new customers. It's called business.
Contrary to the belief of a lot of youngsters on this site, no, repeat NO company is in business to make gamers "happy". They are in business to make MONEY. Making gamers "happy" is just one of many interlocking avenues to profit.
If a company were to concentrate on making their customers "happy" to the exclusion of all else, they would be bankrupt after they produced their first game.
are in it just for the money. Some do not care and make games just for making games.
Name one. Just one. And provide proof, i.e. statements from owners or stock holders.
I guess i will have to wait till GOW2.
I have to say I'm kind of disappointed. It might have gave me a reason to pull out GoW since I haven't touched it in months...but I guess good ol Cliffy B doesn't want that.
we pay for just maps for multiplayer and now when we WANT to pay for new chapters that they won't allow us to have THIS IS BULLSH!T I have lost all respect for EPIC. F!ck gears of war and F!ck them.
Seriously, it was really messed up when they showed us teaser trailers,and photos of this particular character(the Brumack)to be cut from the game and now won't be(including the extra levels) a downloadable content for the 360?! If this is how they thank the 4 million+ 360 owners who bought this game, then I say NO THANK YOU to Gears of War2 especially if they implement the same bullcrap :/
I watched an E3 video with a dude interviewing Cliffy and he was asked about GoW 2 and he said a game with that much success should have a sequel. lol Turning their backs on 360 is like saying because square made some games on the 360 that their turning their backs on Sony. Sony fans are ridiculous.
You deffinitely missed my point.
I'm not losing sleep over it. You know Mark and Cliffy's character--I'm sure they already wanted to bring it. After a while, I bet it comes to the 360--I certainly won't be upgrading my PC to play it. The $$$ they could make is too good to turn down, unless its some "artistic" principle--they do have cash to burn. If it does, I'll buy it. If not, I'll dutifully wait for GoW2.. Its still got tons of replay value and with M$' announced fall lineup, I'll be busy through half of next year anyway (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, ACE 6, Halo, etc.)
Also, anyone catch the significance of Cliffy's statement: if nothing were exclusive to it, no one would buy it-- what does that say about the state of PC gaming vs. console, at least in Cliffy's mind?? gCM
This is clear stupidity on Microsoft’s part. They are coming to the end of the Halo dynasty with the last installment of Halo, Halo 3. While interesting Halo Wars isn’t a FPS, so that leaves Gears of War. As we all know it’s started to form it’s cult following on the Xbox 360 and by pulling this stunt Microsoft is only going to cause the cultic fan bases GOW is building to falter and lose faith. Microsoft needs to really take a look and see what’s more important Vista games or the Xbox 360. I truly don’t mind the PC getting exclusivity to a game this seems like the wrong game to do that with and at the wrong time (Sony releasing its list of killer games with a few FPS that are bound to give GOW a run for its money).
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