If you thought Apple was the only one screwing over Adobe, you should hear what Microsoft has to say. The Internet Explorer team has recently announced that version 9 of IE will only support H.264 format video via HTML5 video.
This was taken out of context obviously it'll still support Flash but theyre pushing for HTML5
Yeah, by no means Flash = HTML5 video and there's too much flash based websites or website elements to just throw it away. Either it've been taken out of context or MS spews PR [email protected] I sure hope websites will convert to HTML5 video from Flash(howdy Youtube), which is a hog on the resources lately.
Who's gonna use IE? -_- Misleading title ftw.
It's funny how people think flash will just go away, but as of right now, HTML5 can't do half the things youre able to do with flash, especially in the gaming department. What about offline applications? I think in the long run, both will co-exist. Where html5 will be enhanced using flash. question is... where will apple fall in all of this when they learn flash is still mainstream?
HTML 5 can do just as much, if not more, than flash, especially in the gaming department. HTML 5 is almost as deep as C#, which is the language used to make XNA 360/PC games. And using flash within HTML 5 is just stupid, completely defeat the point of HTML 5. Flash is still mainstream, but HTML 5 is the evolution of web technology, no doubt about it. It's faster, more secure, more robust, more flexible, free, etc. It's so much better.
For some reason, everyone is pushing for HTML5 now and trying to rub out flash. Apple even said they want nothing to do with flash anymore and refuse to support it on their ipad. Even tho the article I read said that apple stands to make money from this push in about 5 years, it was agreed that it would be a step in the right direction for the internet but at a price. I really do not know if this would be good or bad but as long as we still get to play free games on our browsers and look at free clips then I am all for it.
I think i read that html5 is easier on the browsers and can be done on portable devices much easier than flash lite. I am sure there will be some type of bridge where html5 can emu flash. Not to mention that ms has their silverlight which is similar and less resource intensive. At least from my own use. It makes more sense for ms to take silverlight and make it do flash emu and html5 and make it the basis for their future browsers.
HAHAHHA! People use Internet Explorer?! I understand if it on my HTC HD2 for being able to watch videos on megavideos.com but on a PC that's like asking for trojans and viruses.
pffft who even uses IE seriously
Firefox is all I need. Some sites are still incompatible with Firefox, but as time goes on there are only a few left.
I dont know about the rest of you but i find sometimes my firefox gets really bogged down to a crawl. I am using the latest and greatest but it seems to really take up the memory resources. I recall there being a flash bug in firefox where it would not release memory even after you are no longer on that page. I dont know but it feels like the bug is still there. So i switch back and forth between IE 8 and firefox 3.6 when things start to get slow.
there only gonna hurt themselves as people who use flash for whatever will just switch browsers a daft move for MS. Like facebook users for starters most facebook games use flash..
I dont know why they still make it the default browser.
Mozilla does everything, specially with the IE tab mod, so I never even have to switch browsers when I need to deal with my router or anything.
For the most part, I use Chrome on my mac, but I agree that Firefox is still the best overall browser. Chrome has some issues on Mac OS X, and it doesn't work with Netflix and certain other sites. I use Chrome for pure speed, but I agree that Firefox is awesome.
If you want pure speed, use the Opera browser. That's thing's a speed demon. It out sped Firefox and Chrome for me easily.
I thought IE still holds the majority of browser market share, even if it's slowly declining. I was a loyal IE user until Chrome won me over with its speed.
I use IE only because its compatible with everything. Once Google perfects Chrome, I'll probably move over to that.
But since use of IE is at an all time low, nobody cares what Microsoft think. They've had 3 years to get people to adopt Silverlight, and I don't think I've been to a single website that uses it, except for MS' own sites that is.
Actually lots of companies still run I.E 6. I.E is still widely used by many. Its ignorant to say its not used because you think it sucks xD Chrome for me though =).
It's also a bit silly to paraphrase incorrectly. I didn't say it wasn't being used, or that it was bad - It's use is at an all time low according to the w3c it's as low as 34%, but probably around the 60% mark. This of course would include all businesses which still use IE, though they aren't that relevant since flash or silverlight isn't the best application layer for business apps.
Netflix runs on Silverlight, which has been a huge pain with me wanting to use Chrome to stream Netflix on my Mac...
After all Flash have allowed us to do. Apple and MS are clearly having issues with the guys at Adobe.
it's all good, I haven't used IE in so long and I'm sure many others could care less. if their having issues with them why not just buy them out and do as they please =/ it's what they do best no?
People still use internet explorer? Now that's news!
Wow, are you like some sort of idiot? There are more people using IE than there are people using any other browser.
Need to check Firefox out.
Only because it's the one that most PC's come equipped with. Anyone that's been on the internet for more than a month should have learned that there are better web browsers than IE.
the regular PC user does not know anything about the internet and the evil Blue E on their desktop. My clients and many other users just know, pay for an ISP, and double click blue E ( IE). Any problems due to virus and such, they call me and I make money. now if IE was not a default browser then we would be talking about some serious user % difference. can you imagine having a folder on your desktop with the 3 or 5 major browsers available right off the bat, would give the user at least the choice.
People are freaking crazy to leave flash out. Flash is used for many little applications, and reprogramming that stuff will take time ( which is money). Its matter of how much these webdevelopers want to invest(or how big their clients budget allow it).
I love my Firefox <3
me too man. me too... Not long ago I tried to return to IE but it was too difficult because it felt slower, buggy and it uses much more resource than Ffox. And I really missed the customizations and add-ons. IE's for noobs or for people that simply don't know that there are other alternatives.
1) IE is still 60% of the browser market, so it is relevant. 2) Microsoft is not dropping Flash support. They have never offered 1st class Flash support. It is, and will continue to be a downloadable plug-in. okay... 3 things: 3) IE9's rendering engine is ungodly fast. I've been running the tech preview (not suitable for generable browsing) and I can't get over how much faster sites render in it.
Yeah, well that is all well and good, but I'm not using it right off the bat. I'll wait until the inevitable security issues are realized.
Thats what i dont get, browsers usually render content fast, always have in my experience. But then I wonder, is it because people are on a slow internet connection? Cause all 4 browser(IE,chrome,FF,Opera) render pretty much at the same speed. i is confuzzled. @Bobrea below, you will be surprised.
IE 9 will use your video card for hardware exceleration of websites and video it will be the fastest browser and will have a 64 bit version, all the IE hate is funny firefox is not even that much faster and is a cpu and memory hog. I use chrome but will switch to this.
@Plasmana - You're really playing the 60% market share card? That percentage is and will still(even after IE9) largely made up of outdated and flash enabled versions of IE from the XP era. @cbhamblin - I dont find the IE hate funny, but rather deserved. Its going to take more than a temporary speed advantage to make up for how bloated and insecure Microsoft's browsers have been for years.
KingOfOldSkool, As of this year IE8 has 26% of total marketshare. IE7 has 14%. Firefox 3.6 has 11%. Firefox 3.5 has 9%. That's twice as much share for recent IE vs Firefox!
Who the hell uses IE anyway?
http://upload.wikimedia.org... A little outdated, but..
Yeh, the majority still uses internet explorer. I've spoken to some people who don't even know what firefox/chrome is :/
The Internet will be a much better place, and a much smoother experience.
Nah, thats just not going to happen or else people will just find a way to sue MS again lol.
I've never seen such a trollish article. Not that he has cited his reference, but he's referring to this blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/ar... And at the very end, it's quite clear microsoft still thinks Flash is important. Some of these pathetic 'articles' are starting to get on my nerves.
Okay, no Flash in the browser that is increasingly losing support and popularity to Firefox?
Well you could argue that MS is already loosing users to start with, to completely deny what is a largely used web element is somewhat shortsighted and will only come back on them
IE9, no thanks
Im all for pure hardware acceleration.
I can see why HTML5, but why not push silverlight? It seems to be better than them both. But I guess the easy integration of HTML5 is the big kicker. Down with flash I say.
So they want to aggressively push Silverlight NOW? Sigh. Kind of late.
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