At the inaugural day of the E3 Media & Business Summit, Sony Corp., Microsoft Corp. and Nintendo Co. held widely different business approaches to attract new game buyers...
From one perspective, this article seems heavily biased against MS, especially in the absurd lack of comparative coverage... And while I despise bias, I...agree. Microsoft will have a phenomenal fall line up, in my opinion the clear leader of the bunch, but the press conference simply lacked the excitement I was expecting... The mass market may not care about the details of this E3, since MS is largely correct with its Halo 3, Madden, and GTA notice...but that doesn't mean they gave me anything to be excited about as a hardcore gamer. The lack of new exclusives, the numbers we already knew, the absurd attempt to capture the Wii market (SceneIT?), the horribly awkward VP of marketing speech simply pale in comparison to what Sony and Nintendo brought to the show. Sony's show was even extended with 3rd party publishers confirming exclusives (even timed ones). Finally, I consider the gears announcement an utter slap in the face. We ALL know the content will come to the 360, we all know that the only people that are going to care are 360 owners, and we all know that an announcement of 5 new chapters and the new boss would be a HUGE and exciting announcement. Because they went with the PC, however, very, very few people case and I personally feel a little cheated for buying the 360 experience. This holiday was already dedicated to my 360, but Sony and Nintendo both gave me hope that I will soon be able to dust the grime off my consoles and get compelling experiences that I'd see nowhere else. I no longer see the Wii and the PS3 as a software wasteland. That isn't good news for MS.
...what was so exciting about Sony's presentation? 'Home' didn't show anything new, the chewbacca thing was terribly embarrassing and maybe the new PSP which OMG is 30 percent lighter and thinner. Not that impressive IMHO. MS showed that they are here now and have the strongest line up for the rest of the year. The Killer zone trailer look better than anyone expected and Sony used it like they used it in 05. Pumped up the hype for something that won't be here anytime soon, as always the media gobbled it up. My perspective on the lack of good games on the PS3 and Wii will only change when they are on the shelf available to buy and worth doing so. One flashy trailer isn't enough to change the present reality. Edit for Kennedy below: Sony definitely dominated the attention today for sure. MS have more than a few games this fall and they only focused on the games this year, they have more to say when it comes to 2008. Edit to Lorenzferus below: I agree Lair, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank Future look like great games. As it was when I bought my 360, I didn't go out and buy it because of what's coming but what was available on the shelves when I pick up the console. I almost bought a PS3 when I saw the trailer of Motorstorm and RFOM. But after playing them, I didn't feel it was worth the 600 bones just for those games, so I decided to wait. When I read the solid reviews and are impressed with these new PS3 games I'll buy the PS3. I don't like submitting posts like this because they are usually perceived as 'biased' or as 'damage control' but I don't think anyone can expect everyone to buy into potential instead of product. So that's it, didn't want to belittle what Sony did at E3's press conference, they did a great job, enuff said, now back to my CRACK.
I can't argue with Microsofts business approach, and it's Halo, GTA, Madden way of thinking. But I guess Sony can counter with, GTA, Madden, and Haze/Unreal 3. PS3 still doesn't have that one game to counter Halo 3 this year, but I just shake my head at people who still say PS3 doesn't have any games coming. It's got almost all the same major third party games XBOX 360 does and a good slew of 5 or 6 first party titles that look killer. I'm not being kind or anything, How can you say Lair, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank Future don't mean anything? That's a diverse lineup of games. None of those are Halo 3, but I see some potential console pushers their. And of course, I haven't even mentioned HOME, that's looking like it's gonna be a big asset. I think PS3 has a chance to appeal to the Japanese and Europeans more this year than Americans, Americans are too stuck on their online play and their shooters right now but Haze and Unreal 3 help, I don't know what Sony would of done without those games this year. They were wise to pick them up.
So Wile, did you buy the 360 before Gears or afterwards? B/c until Gears the MS lineup was almost identical in how many quality games it had available. (not to mention the PS2's much better library as BC games)
MSFT is definitely getting the short end of the stick, and frankly it's because they focused on stuff everyone already knew. Yes, they have one of the best holiday lineups EVER. But we KNEW that already. The fact is, that wasn't as exciting as MSFT wanted it to be. We wanted to know what we'd be playing AFTER Halo 3 and Mass Effect. And they gave us pretty el-zilcho. Sony, now, the KZ2 trailer and the NCSoft announcement were huge. But again, Sony is full of promises... while they have some GREAT stuff that is coming this year, the biggies are all in 2008 (MGS4, FFXIII, KZ2). And Nintendo? I don't even know where to begin. They're being called the victor because of WiiFit? Is it April? Nintendo is pulling the biggest joke of the century right to the bank. Last gen graphics coupled with some arm-waving... that's next gen? Blech. My order: 1. Sony (and frankly, they HAD TO WIN) 2. Microsoft (lousy conference, but the games will sell systems this year) 3. Nintendo (please enter the 21st century; stop dragging us all backwards)
halo 3 will carry microsoft and like every answer at e3 was "halo 3" Bill gates who will the children look up to answer:...Master Chief.How do u plan on winning the console war Answer:Its complicated actuallY....Halo 3.
Maybe the 360 has a few good ones this Fall, but so does the PS3...and it has a good line-up NEXT year too. That's something the 360 doesn't have. Sony OWNED today and everyone knows it...except Attack of the Show...for some reason. GOW going PC is great though. Epic's been a HUGE PC supporter in the past...why not put it there? UTIII is a PS3 "timed exclusive". Even though Jack said, and I quote, "it is a PS3 exclusive". We still haven't seen the exclusive PS3 game that Epic is developing. I hope it's good.
He said unreal was an exclusive.... for THIS year.
if UE3 and Haze are exclusive for this holiday season, and games liek Lair, heavenly sword, rachet and clank, uncharted, and LBP can take the Holiday season, MGS4, FFXIII and Killzone can take it for next year its what they have in stock right now..and for next year, and i dont think halo3 will be the premiere XBOX title forever..just look at Gears of war, it ate halo's supporters for the online experience maybe halo 3 will take em back nobody knows.
nobody can say what MS will do next year. I think sony only put on a better show and pulled out all their cards & went all out. MS kept it low key and only show what is coming out soon except re5. So i disagree. But they all had great line ups. But I really liked that HAZE and MGS4 AND Killzone 2 videos. But its wasnt like Mass Effect, COD4, lost odyssey and Halo 3 were anything to laugh at.
kevin a b**ch and olivia is a slut he sucks 360 di*ks
Recognize redemption and quit acting as if you're crack addicts in denial. Sony did what they had to and rightfully garnered the most attention... so far. Sit back, relax and enjoy the rest of E3 and quit being armchair analysts.
I agree with what the guy on the top is saying. Was is it me or was no one clapping for Microsoft. Especially when they released the new halo 3 360 no one in the crowd did anything and peter moore was just embaressed.I think all they did was release news about games we already knew. They couldnt stop bragging about how many people own 360s. Isnt Nintendo the one outselling them every week.They also couldnt stop talking about Halo 3.This is comming from a nintendo fanboy but Nintendo was kinda of a disapointment as well. Nintendo was really good but they didnt show that many appealing software. Wii fit looked kinda of dumb to me. I dont wanna work up a sweat just playing videogames. When i sit down in front of my wii i wanna play fun games and i wanna lay on my couch and i dont wanna get up. I thought Sony would have been a disappointment but after what i saw i was glad i have a ps3. They showed off exclusives and more exclusives . They broadened the playstation network with the new capabiity of going on psn with your cellphone. They announced that NC soft would make games exclusively for them and epic was making a few exclusive games. They squashed all the rumors off mgs4 going multi platform and confirmed it being exclusive. They showed a new game called infamous which looked good. They confirmed time exclusives for haze with Ps3 being the leading console for it. They confirmed Unreal tournament 3 being a timed exclusive for them as well. They looked at some more first party exclusives and they finished it with a brand new killzone 2 in game play video which looks like it is worth the wait. In the end I thought sony won.
I can't argue with Microsofts business approach, and it's Halo, GTA, Madden way of thinking. But I guess Sony can counter with, GTA, Madden, and Haze/Unreal 3. PS3 still doesn't have that one game to counter Halo 3 this year, but I just shake my head at people who still say PS3 doesn't have any games coming. It's got almost all the same major third party games XBOX 360 does and a good slew of 5 or 6 first party titles that look killer. I'm not being kind or anything, How can you say Lair, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank Future don't mean anything? That's a diverse lineup of games. None of those are Halo 3, but I see some potential console pushers their. And of course, I haven't even mentioned HOME, that's looking like it's gonna be a big asset. I think PS3 has a chance to appeal to the Japanese and Europeans more this year than Americans, Americans are too stuck on their online play and their shooters right now but Haze and Unreal 3 help, I don't know what Sony would of done without those games this year. They were wise to pick them
I agree Lair, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank Future look like great games. As it was when I bought my 360, I didn't go out and buy it because of what's coming but what was available on the shelves when I pick up the console. I almost bought a PS3 when I saw the trailer of Motorstorm and RFOM. But after playing them, I didn't feel it was worth the 600 bones just for those games, so I decided to wait. When I read the solid reviews and are impressed with these new PS3 games I'll buy the PS3. I don't like submitting posts like this because they are usually perceived as 'biased' or as 'damage control' but I don't think anyone can expect everyone to buy into potential instead of product. So that's it, didn't want to belittle what Sony did at E3's press conference, they did a great job, enuff said, now back to my CRACK (right CLINTON514 LOL) PS Lorenzferus - good intelligent arguement BTW. Bubble for you.
Sony does not have anything to directly counter halo3 this year, but i wonder what MS is going to have to counter Sony's 08 releases. MetalGear doesn't do quite as well as Halo in sales (but halo will be over with), FinalFantasy does around the same in sales (or more), and Gran Turismo sales have swallowed up Halo sales in the past (i dont even think Halo1+2 has past GT3 alone). Certainly GearsOfWar2 is a candidate as Microsoft's new killer app after halo (unless they make halo zero or something like that). But even though games like alan wake, too human, Kotor, and fable may be good/great games, none are in the catagory of halo or MGS for that matter. It will be interesting to see if one of Microsoft's games can completely pick up the slack of Halo when Halo3 is supossed to be last of the direct series, who knows... maybe Mass Effect (november) will be a massive run away hit and mass effect 2 will be out in 08 to compete. After posting that comment, i think one of the mistakes Microsoft made was not showing any exclusive 2008 content. MS needs to persuade their costumers that there IS life after halo, but instead they put all their chips into the halo helmet once again. Sure there is TGS for 08 showings but giving the xbox owners nothing to talk about for 2008 until then gave sony a great advantage for their 08 showing.
... is, what I think, back on track. They are the top dog who has been down for count, but has yet again arised, with full strenght. *insert epic music*
Most people that bought the PS2 bought to play 3rd person action/adventure games not to play FPS. I don't think Halo cuts into the PS3 hardware sales because PS2 fans never really care about halo. PS2 is still selling, while xbox1 doesn't. I think SOny needs to counter the RPG's more than anything. Halo will be big on the 360 and it's not a game that PS2 owners really want. Most PS fans want the FF, and the 3rd person action/adventure games. I think by SOny releasing FPS on the PS3 it will take more sales away from 360 than the other way around. Like I said before, if Halo would be multiplatform it wouldn't get the attention it does now, because there are to many games that are better, but since it's only on the 360 it's over hype. I don't think anyone can disagree that the 360 was the better system for the last 17 months, but from now on I think the PS3 it the better system offering more variety of quality games.
"Maybe the 360 has a few good ones this Fall, but so does the PS3...and it has a good line-up NEXT year too. That's something the 360 doesn't have." So you have a crystal ball and can see into 2008? How do you know what they have for 2008, Microsoft are not stupid they can see whats going on. Really that is a dumb comment you made.
You hit the nail right on the head. Sony really did a great job they had some good exclusives and allot of good news about the PSN. MS didn't do bad, but there news was same ol same ol. There's a rumor going around that Sony is to have another price cut before the holiday's which is cool. All in all Sony took E3 yesterday seems like thy are stepping up to the plate. Peace to gamers
NO BIAS I got the Ps3, the wii and the 360 so im not biased at all. The new wii fittness thing looks awsome and microsoft have done got some killer games such as Halo 3 and the announcement of the COD4 BETA is a real kick in the head to all the so called sony "Fanboys" but i do have to say that this year it seems like sony has come out on top but things always change, but for now, games like MGS4, Kill Zone and Little Big planet look amazing. I was sceptical about home at first but now it looks like a real app and not some stupid gimmick. Microsoft owned last year but this year they got to give respect where its due and sony have earned it. play on playas
It's only been 2 days and I've only heard 3 games talked about, when there was plenty of software on all consoles. The fanboys and others had wet dreams I'm sure last night and back to reality. Quit with the KZ2, it's not coming out this holiday, as well as Sony has Haze and UT3 to counter well you know what, since those games will make it to the XBOX360, as well GT4, except Sony will not have the top money maker this yeah, yeah you know what GAME that is. Even GOTY, I predict will go to MS. Hey you can make your predictions too. E3 Politics is done, Shareholders are quite happy from all 3 camps, to see where their money is going, or what, it is going into. No it should be about the gamers, like the Old E3 was,as we await to purchase these games, as well as flame about Console sales. We'll see what E3 will do with the numbers. UrbanJabroni, Lorenzferus, Wile, and Eagle Eye good posts.
...and second your vote for good posts. All 3 contenders brought something worth while to the conference. It may not have been all glitz and glam but each company gave up some info on their anticipated and innovative products. E3 was a win-win-win situation. All gamers will have something to talk about by this holiday season and Q1 2008.
sales 4 sony and all consoles should boost
Sony owned everyone at the show all Microsoft was talking about was Halo 3 so what one game isn't enough and they weren't directing the hardware problems of the console overheating bogus. Nintendo offered crap not even next gen material. Sony offered tons of exclusives and updated everything not just their games like the other two console game companies did. Be honest everyone knows now Sony won after all those months that you fan boys doubted they came back stronger than hell itself and were only going to get better. Let me tell you only one game looked better on the XBOX than on the PS3 not more than one all rumors that weren't proven. So stop lying to yourselves and admit it Sony took your hearts away.
As gamers we all agree on one thing. Its all about the games is it not? You can't deny the fact that the xbox 360 has the best line-up of games for any system right now. In the next six months they are coming out with some of the greatest games, one after another. Another strong point for the 360 is microsofts' 3 exclusive RPG's, Blue Dragon, Mass effect and Lost oddesey. As an rpg gamer you can't help but be excited about all three of these. And the best part all of these games are coming by the end of the year.
I DL'd the BlueDragon demo last night and tried it out this morning, first impression is great game play and i really liked the art style...Toriyama grows on u after a while i guess. really takes u back with the classic JRPG style. (definately picking this up)
Was the day i bought ghost recon for my ps2. I almost threw up at that the uglyness of it all. So I bought a 360 and ghost recon and have never looked back. 1 game fellas 1 game made me buy a console thats all it took. Thats why I wont buy a phony gaystaion there is 1 game that yet on the shelf with a price tag. By the time there is I would have saved 300 dollars form all the price cuts and sales for that system. For all those who have been a sony supporter from day 1 chew on that you freakn lozers. This message has been RAM MAGNUMS APROOVED...
Reigning supreme.microsoft: this is what we are working on, this is what we have, this is what you will be doing in a few weeks customers. Sony this is what we have been doing, this is all we got, all you have to do is wait forever now go buy my playstation is a 100 dollars cheaper o.k. sorry for the expensive paperweight, we promise to promise to keep our promise please believe us killzone was actual gameplay. behing the scenes Sony was like I hope those idiots bought it we are risking it all in a trailer for a game that wont be available untill the year 2010 when we are flying cars to get to work.
Have you seen E3 07? -Have you seen the in-game Killzone 2 (system seller) -did you notice no body cheered for the Halo themed xbox -noticed how Peter Moore looked ackward after nobody cheered -they highered a used car-salesman to play football with Reggie Bush, cheap, lame, and no body cheered. -"Scene It" for $60 thats B.S, oh yeah no body cheered -they said Xbox 360 is the most powerful console system on Earth, everybody know that's false, PS3 is, thats a fact -note it was a bad idea to show COD4 before Halo 3; COD4 made Halo 3 look like Crap -the live action Halo 3 short, tells us why the live movie version is on hold. Sure they were the Champions, if it was a contest on most awkwardest, and the company most noticeably lost after 2007.
KILLZONE2 hahahahaha thats all we have to say..its been proven so many times as to no matter what the PS3 does and how real and amazing it looks you bots will keep saying it looks like trash...but ur only fooling urselves. great example is gears. xbots stated that the CGI trailer couldnt be done - meaning that it looks way better then gears - bc if the CGI didnt look way better then gears then u would have hear bots sys gears looks better - which we all know it doesnt and thats y those bots didnt say gears looks better either. now that KZ2 looks close to and in some areas better(in pre-alpha) all these ppl are saying gears looks better hahahaha so if they are saying that - then they are really saying that gears is better then the CGI - hahahahaha man what dumb ppl...and UT3 ruins gears...gears is nothing now and its sad that xbots are reffering to a game that was released back in nov 2006 - meaning that the 360 hasnt produced anything great for the last 7 months hahahaaha what a joke u xbot are - truly dumb as a monkey
I agree with the vast majority of the posts here. Msoft clearly has the strongest line-up of the 3 going into this holiday season. Will I understand msoft's approach this E3 I do think they dropped the ball by not droppin some major/bombshell announcement. More people watched this E3 than any previous E3 in history making this the best time to really generate hype for your product. Sure Msoft showed off more games than any other console maker there and sure all those games are coming this year..but everyone already knew about each of those titles. On the one hand...Microsoft owned both Sony and Nintendo..they showed 40-50 titles that are all coming this year. The even have the most exclusives this year...Lost Oddessy, Halo 3, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Naruto...etc. But on the other hand they were owned by both because they generated no HYPE/BUZZ because we already knew about all that...making their show kind of blah. On a side not...Marathon on XBLA...WOOT!!!! Sony easily garnered the most hype this E3 showing a very close to the hyped cgi Killzone 2, announcing Infamous, Unreal being Mod-able and the exclusivity deal with NCsoft. I'm very curious as to the terms of the NCsoft/Sony deal...as NCsoft is also working with Msoft and Marvel on the Marvel MMO for X360. I'm willing to bet that this deal is similiar to Capcom and Nintendo's Resident Evil deal on gamecube. More than likely NCsoft will be contracted to make X number of games for PS3 whether they be current IP's (City of Heroes, Guild Wars..etc.) or something entirely new. I do find this announcement kind of funny because they are SLAPPING the SOE (sony online entertainment..the first party studio responsible for Everquest) in the face. Ultimately to me....this E3 proved that E3 really did die last year. R.I.P. you are truly missed.
The x360 may have some decent games coming out this fall but its about damn time the thing has been out for 2 years now about some decent games come out damn. but PS3 has the best games without a doubt this fall PS3 games > x360 games. and the PS3 has some real exclusive unlike x360 which eventually come out on PC too. x360 fails yet again, zero reason to own one.
its sad how 360 boys are scarred and always attack the KZ2 gameply cuz they know its gonna kick halo 3's ass, so i laugh at people who dog ssony because they say they have no games, just check he list people, and ms??? halo 3 sucks and will suck, so whats mS without it, a lost cause cuz ps3 is the best console evermade, (FACT)
I think the reason most people...not just Halo fans question Killzone 2's gameplay is because the first Killzone was pretty boring. Killzone was a mediocre FPS title on PS2 it did look nice but it wasn't fun. As gamers we all know that great graphics do not = great games. Genji 2 on PS3 is a perfect example of this. Genji 2 is beautiful graphically...but gameplay wise its LAME. I don't doubt that Guerilla and Sony are doing everything they can to make Killzone 2 a killer app. I'm sure they will borrow every concept that made Halo a killer app and try some new things too (just like they attempted with Killzone 1). I do think Killzone 2 will be a great game, they have been taking sooo much time making this game that it better be good. Just because you prefer Killzone doesn't make Halo 3 suck...I played the Beta for it...and it is gonna be a GREAT game too. I am curious though...what makes PS3 the "best console ever made" in your opinion..or as you state it...FACT. What criteria do you use to support your that statement? It certainly isn't the worst console ever...that is definitely a fact...Jaguar, Virtual Boy, 3DO..etc are all fighting for that dubious honor. So what makes it the best console ever? I personally don't agree with that as I'm having a hard time finding games on it worth buying. Have resistance, didn't care for motorstorm, I haven't gotten NG: Sigma yet...because I have Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox already. Once the price goes down then I will get it. VF 5 I decided to wait for the X360 version because of the online play. So for me..right now PS3 is more of a Blu-ray player than a console. What makes it the best? As far as the best..I was thinking NES..as they really propelled gaming into what it is today.
But NINTENDO works, from the 99% of the rest of the world I have no dubts, that METROID sales beats HALO sales and MG4 sales AND i think, that the new BODY trainer, sold the next 5 millons of wiis only in USA 5 millons in JAPAN and probably 50 millons in CHINA THEN NINTENDO is going to wins in all markets in the next 8 months
I am a huge Metroid Prime fan, but based on the previous sales of the first two, it won't come close to Halo 3 or Metal Gear sales. Metroid looks awesome, but I doubt it will sell as many copies as you think.
had a good show that generated a lot of hype and KZ2 did look good. I would say Microsoft has the better lineup this year for software, but I would give next year to PS3 so far. Nintendo will still sell the most consoles though bc the average consumer is about as smart as a box of rocks.
they did the lamest things -Reggie Bush and that used car-salesman playing scripted football -$60 for "Scene It" -A Halo themed Xbox 360 with only 20 gigs -showing COD4 before Halo 3, face it, COD4 made Halo 3 look like crap.
If xbox was the perfect storm then Ps3 was the freakin Apocalypse. Havent seen Wii yet its on my DVR and im waiting for my lady to finish watching So u think u can dance (help me please). i got a question about madden on 360. wuts with the "i wont look when your picking your plays crap" wut is this blitz not until next-get has EA done this and i really hope its not on the ps3 ver. because that really killed the hrs. of madden tournys that i have in my house. 4 me it goes like this if i was on my death bed and i had to choose wut my last games played where it be like this. ps3-KZ2 over Halo3 ps3-MGS4 over Mass Effect (that was a real hard to make but it came down i played all the MGS (even the OG nintendio ver.) and i have to finish it) But im not a supreme sony fanboy and wont be dying anytime soon so ill be buying all of them....ha ha ha Also wut up wit the bubbles i thought we where supposed to helping each other but all i seen to be doing is loosing them oh well bubbles plz..
I think SONY conference was the best, but i liked the 360 conference as well. I think it's going to be a tough battle between M$ n SONY this HOLYDAY, but from what i've seen i think next year is going to be all about SONY.
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