Just how close does the finished product come to the target render?
This E3 is turning out to be great. I have to give them credit, I didn't think they'd get this close. Be real, give credit where it's due.
Agreed, they deserve credit but I think the game is not close enough to target trailer BUT thats not the case since this is Pre-pre-alpha as the devs said so what I'm really excited about is that the final product can surpass the E3 2005 trailer. This is the best pre-alpha gameplay I've seen, cant wait for more.
maybe this will refresh the minds of the sony faithfull and make them realize sony really was lying about how good the game was going to look. The actual game looks nowhere near as good and thats even with the help of some CGI cutscenes added to the actual gameplay of the new 2007 video.
AKA, no need to talk rubbish about something you clearly do not know. There was no CGI in that video. And no one lied. If anyone realistically expected it to match the trailer exactly, they'd have to be stupid. They did a great job, and only a blind ignoramus would pass it off as a bad job. Edit: Nice! An idiot went through disagreeing with all positive comments! Typical.
Even though the video is very flat and without detail, the game still only has half the detail of the video, but I don't care. Lets all say it it is the bomb and even though it is not as good as they said we will still be happy and talk like it is good enough, or as good as expected, and ignore that it is not what was promised. I mean we it's not like we could even put together an E3 without a bunch of FUTURE PROMISES unlike MS, they think they are so cool with their " our games are here now" crap. I mean, who needs that? I like to wait for my games, Yea, sony, thanks for the game....some time next year....that looks as good as it could, I guess. Yea sony, lets band together sony fans, we have to help each other out give me bubbles give me bubbles we can do it together sony fans we can do it!! You must believe!! and Pray!! and ignore reality.
Sony Surprise almost everybody even microsoft didnt see that coming
...is it going to play well. If anyone remembers, I don't think it was bad graphics that brought the first Killzone down. It was the lack of original gameplay, shoddy controls and poor level design. These are the areas they need to work on if they're going to get things right.
even better in some respects. look at these screen comparisons. http://www.n4g.com/M/8/Imag...
"if the 07 had a smoother look then id say it matched but it is grittier and darker with more detail so is a good trade of but great all the same"
i really don't see it getting any closer than this. The trailer was impressive on many levels and the gameplay had parts that were even more impressive than the trailer. Offcourse it is impossible to get to that trailer but they have done an incredibly fantastic job at even getting this close at this stage in development. Nobody really thought they could do it so we all simply need to not critisize and give them their props where its due
If what we saw was indeed pre-pre-alpha then the game has the chance to get much better (Remember the old pre-alpha Ratchet & Clank TOD vids compared to the full new Pixar quality R&C TOD ones?). The game has potential to go beyond the trailer but will the devs be able to pull such a graphical wonder while making the gameplay good and deep? And all this in time since Sony may push the devs to make it ready for announced time. I hope they can and the game can be all its meant to be.
The Guerrila QA man Seb even mentioned how people will say parts of the E3 2007 showing were prerendered, or CGI. None of the latest Killzone 2 media is pre-rendered. I mean, come on, look while they are swooping over the city into the distance, there is some texture pop up. And Guerrila wouldn't create some dodgy floor textures for a cutscene. The game will shock and awe, and I am immensely excited to see how it continues to develop. I am startled particularly by the detail in each characters face, and the sheer magnitude of things going on in the new media. In the E3 2005 trailer, you landed in a pretty desolate outpost. The sheer number of objects exploding is quite nice, and I am excited to see the incredible particle effects and lighting system in the other levels.
i think it looks pretty close, the only real difference is the explosion clouds, that is all that is very different, and like mk_red says it is in pre pre alpha, so i think alot is going to be added before the game is released and will look better, and so well have to wait for a comparison when it finally comes out
if the E3 05 was a 10 the E3 07 is about a 4. not even close. still a great looking game though. this is my opinion only. if yours is different........great ! DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKES !!! tell me about it ArduousAndy !
Pull your 360 our of your a$$ long enough to formulate an unbiased opinion. IGN and every other respected opinion has said the game comes real real close. Meaning 05 = 10 and 07 = 8-9. Then we have your worthless opinion.
yes i am...and with that said you probably have not seen the trailer on the psn. 720p greatness all the way. the bullets flying look sharp and the lighting is better than anything we have seen to date. the draw distance stretched on forever and their seems to be a lot going on all at the same time, i thought the animation was far beyond what i imagined. the characters have a movement to them that i've never seen before. when the demo was firing shots into the badguys chest towards the end i was shocked. i never seen anything like that in a game before. the art style is also right up my ally. it made every other video i watched today look like sh!t. this game is far beyond anything on any other console....some still say gears looked better but i'm not in to that wet plastic look. when you look at the game play segments in the 2007 trailer, it puts the 05 trailer to shame @ nice cuppa....why so negative all day? why troll the ps3 news ALL day? are you mad because of the m$ e3 presentation? do you even play games? are you blind?? if your legally retarded then i'll forgive you but if not.... EDIT: ( REMOVED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE N4G COMMUNITY )
w/ the ammount of stuff going on and how good it looks this is UNBELIEVABLE. has anyone even thought about MULTIPLAYER!!!!!OMG!!!!!! 40s anyone? @nice cuppa you are a sure bitter lately. why does ours matter to you you`ve been in the ps3 section all day. spewing negativity. don`t let our joy be your pain. gamer. @satanas i know i hope it`ll be good to. that`ll just top this great great news off. hopefully we`ll hear something soon. @AZN sniper. I know i`m sooooo excited, i hope we hear more about MP soon!
Yeah, right now I'm counting on good multiplayer. This would be the final seal for me, if multiplayer is bland, that'd be a big disappointment. Hopefully it matches R:FOM in players per match.
well supposedly there will be a multiplayer beta later this year so we can check it out ourselves
How is that going to be possible when they say the game is in pre pre alpha. just wondering...
Why does it say the year is 2006 on the target render when it was at E3 2005?
I noticed that too.
i think it was all scripted and the guy had to be in places and do things at certain times to make it work. i'm suspicious ! if you disagree then man up and tell me why ! PLEASE NOTE I HOPE THIS GAME DELIVERS ON ALL FRONTS AS I WOULD LOVE A GREAT GAME LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE AND THIS WOULD DRIVE THE COMPETITION TO IMPROVE ! THIS LOOKS GOOD TOO. http://www.gametrailers.com...
It was definitely scripted imo in terms of the guy wasn't actually playing the game in real-time, but rather they showed gameplay clips of the level. The confusing thing was that they made it seem like someone was playing the game in real-time. They show someone on stage with a PS3 controller after the video is shown at the Sony Press Conference.
There are actually two "extended video clips" floating around right now; the one as seen during Sony's presentation, and this one: http://www.gamevideos.com/v... It shows much more of the intro level, continuity-wise. *Edit* Ok, so, according to someone, somewhere, this link does NOT, in fact, lead to an extended gameplay video. I say you're wrong, sir! (or madam)
the show last night had someone actually playing unscripted...they said he paused the game and was able to pan and zoom around certain characters...to kind of prove it was all in game footage...the actual public conference though just pieced together stuff from the 2 and a half hour show... that is what IGN said anyway...
Before this was shown at the conference, a killzone party was held where a developer of the game was playing it for 20 min. in front of IGN, 1UP,Gamespot, and many of it's harshest critics.... -All were impressed.
this game will set the bar for future games! i cant wait for what sony has plans 10 years down the road and beyond!
I really think it can go either way. I mean, depending on how you look at it some points in the game look the same or very close. It also doesn't help that there are 2 different trailers here, so it makes it harder to compare them. but overall im pleased. you guys have to remember this is only pre alpha too.
They still have 8 months to go before release, I'm pretty sure it's going to match the trailer. The facial animations are better than the original trailer, the physics and weight of the charactors looks real good. All they really need to do is polish it up and it can match the trailer. I can't wait
gameplay footage for CGI, it's no wonder we're getting such large debates over this game. It's awesome that Guerrilla Games pulled through though. If this is what the game looks and plays this extraordinary in pre-alpha status, imagine what the final product will be like...
The real game, I heard will take 4 blu-ray dics, lol
"Just how close does the finished product come to the target render?" this isnt the finished product. period.