CVG: An all-new first-party Natal project has been outed by a US movie director. But don't get too excited, hardcore 360 fans - this sits very much in 'casual' territory.
This is pretty much a precursor to what you can expect from Natal. It's not really fair on the hardcore 360 users who think it's gonna be used in all their favourite games. But then again if they're hardcore, why would they opt for this control scheme anyway, right?
I'm pretty sure Hardcore 360 Players dont want Natal to be useid in their favorite games. But I'm pretty sure They would not mind using natal to expand the gameplay of those games. Like in in the new Ghost reckon you can use natal from what I've heard to control your troops over the maps with hand gestures and stuff like that. That's a good way of using natal with a Hardcore game.
Yes. It would make sense only to focus on the casuals when most of the software revenue for the 360 comes from hardcore titles /s. I'm sure they will show off some more hardcore titles on E3.
"I'm sure they will show off some more hardcore titles on E3. " There's Fable, Ghost Recon, Gears (Cliffy mentioned it)...
All that's been said is that Ghost Recon will use Natal, the rest is speculation. What you said is probably true, but it's not confirmed.
I wouldn't be surprised, if by the time E3 hits we know for sure that Ghost Recon won't support Natal, neither will Fable 3(pete moly already said it won't have Natal support) Gears 3 not going to happen either. So far MS has shown nothing that supports the claims that any of these games can be used with Natal. I'll believe it when I see it running.
If their are hardcore 360 owners who think this will be the main focus of future games, then they have serious problems! Natal will probably be used in some games, but it's main purpose is to provide a different type of gaming that couldn't be done on the console before, just as Sony is doing with the move. The only difference is, with the move, it looks like Sony is trying to make their controller replace the ones you have already, seeing how they have set up the controller with all the main functions of a regular controller... similar to the Wiimote.
forget it dude...the "hardcore" 360 fans "want" to want it, because its what they do...back it up just because its got "innovative" and "game changing" written all over it by the marketing department. motion controls are innovative sure, but i don't give two tosses and many others don't because, there is already so much to explore with a normal controller, stuff like this isn't worth it.
I would argue that, I'm not sure I want Natal on my hardcore games unless it makes sense. Don't replace the controller with a more clunky design. The only time Natal should be used is when the same control is more difficult to control with the traditional controller. Certain games do well with Natal, like full body fighting games. However, I don't want to sneak around my living room while playing Splinter Cell using Natal. Perhaps, casual games will be the type of games hardcore gamers might enjoy with the introduction of Natal. Who knows...? Because it is casual like doesn't mean it isn't fun.
Now that MS are demoing new games, someone needs to leak some shaky cam videos. Plus I wonder how much these games will cost. Maybe the red ball game, this river game, the boxing and football games will all be bundled into 1 and will be Natals Wii Sports type game which comes with every unit.
I doubt Micrososft will ever give away anything for free. What you'll get is a demo, like wii-sports, but a demo and you'll have to pay to own the full wii-sports. That's probably why it's going to cost $50. EDIT @below You're right, my X360 came with Forza 3, some XBLA games and an extra controller. they might give those games for free, just like Nintendo did.
what about the holiday bundles where they give away 2 free games in every 360, they've done that every year for a while forza 2 / viva pinata lego indiana jones / kung fu panda lego batman / pure also i bought a 360 the other year and got a free extra controller as well as 2 games
i guarantee theyll package a game with natal. Sure itll just be all of the demos they will show thrown into one package but thats what Nintendo did. They want the casuals to know they value in this thing. Natal will probably be $75 and will inlcude a free game full of min games.
"Whether I'm historically acknowledged or not, the Natal was an amazing piece of technology and I'll be the first one in line to buy one when they come out during the holidays. Bayman told me there were boxing and football and other Natal games coming out, but I really, really can't wait to shoot someone on that f*cking thing." Agreed lol.
That video comes up in every Natal article. Aren't people sick of posting it yet?
this whole pew pew pew thing is gay, have you all forgotten that Sony tried to do this with the EyeToy for the ps2 and ps3. How about that game they showed at gdc, with the girl shaking here hand infront of the tv what do you call that? A lot of these sony fanboys are wagon riders. First they claim sony came up with motion controll and the camera, then they say its a gimmick, then they laugh at the pew pew thing. Pick one so you can troll with unisons, sheesh
I think some of these games will be a great way to expand the userbase. With so many shooters and other aggressive games in nature it will be nice to just sit back (in this case jump around) and have some good old fashion fun. It will take a year or two before we really see what this thing can do.
Is a 360 price drop/bundle with natal at same price and i will be happy. Better be hardcore games with more involvement than just hand gestures though like fists, straight hands etc, as i reckon that sounds a little unimaginative. I certainly don't want to just chuck grenades either. Something like what is rumoured with the 'ring' system for fable 3 sounds sick. 5 fingers mapped to different elements and depending on what fingers you show and the way you move your arm depends on what spell comes out. I can't remember where i read it but if its true, casting spells will be amazing.
The Natal stuff that you'll get with you're hardcore games will probably, and sadly, be no more than what you mentioned. And as far as I know, the technology in Natal isn't precise enough to map your finger movements - only your limbs, head etc.
if natal is for hardcore games too i wonder how it plays but i doubt ppl have big spaces on there room or living rooms to play natal correctly and confortable like the kicking game i hope you dont kick your lcd screen by mistake or if your playing with some one accidently you could punch him in the face thats why MOVE is more usefull to use in all size room.
Or you could just stick to a traditionnal controller...
It can then just read your arm and head movements. That would be very useful in hardcore games, though I think it will be best used for smaller things within games like menu navigation and mini-games.
fail fail fail fail fail fail etc
im glad im not your dad.id be so disappointed with the education system right now
So going from a hardcore game like Gears or COD2 to holding hands on a raft floating down a river sounds awesome to you????? ............................R OTFLMMFAO!!!!! FAIL -777-
just face it natal is not going to be usefull or fun more like your going to look retarted and if you live in a CONDO or APARTMENT HOPE YOUR NEIGHBORS DONT GET PISS OFF BY THE JUMPING NOISE AND CRAZYNESS epecially if you live second floor NATAL IN MY BOOK IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.
"Retarted"? What a retard you are. On topic, sort of: I don't give a rat's ass about Natal.
FInally a safe way to practice=)
no pics, no video didn't happen
ah the deep breath before the plunge, at least some 3rd parties will stop littering the wii.
yawn shovelware moving from wii to x360 confirmed, oh well looks like all the good titles will be on ps move.
to gimp in and pay beyond. Oh, wait, not you Wrathman. Jump in and play beyond instead. Unless of course you enjoy shovelware ported over to you from the Wii.
its a scary concept, but M$ promises to deliver... i mean, no controller in my hands? no physical gateway between myself and my virtual counterpart? i mean, am i the only one here who cant even imagine playing a game like Final Fantasy 13 or Battlefield Bad Company 2 without a peripheral in my hands? seeing will have to be believing on this one.
Natal will either be a hit or a flop depending on how they market it, things like this that aren't included at launch don't have the best track record with doing well.
I noticed further in on the comments Gunn said in response: "Sick Duck – You’ll be quite happy with the Natal – it is to the Wii what watching Avatar in 3D is to watching a movie in a penny arcade." Some nice praise.
that game actually looks pretty fun, I wouldn't mind seeing harmonix doing a remake for move and natal. I wouldn't mind seeing an audio surf title as well.
and get you kicked out your apartment
Will this new game involve catching a big red ball or shoes?
What is with all this "hardcores don't want natal" crap? Maybe i'm not hardcore in the sense that I play games 24/7 but i'm a passionate gamer and very much welcome the thought of integrating natal into all my games without it being some sort of fad. As a passionate gamer I can't wait to see how developers take on natal and how they plan to implement it into their games and see how the creative genius of some people in the industry move gaming forward with motion technology. However, as a passionate gamer i'm getting sick and tired of reading about all these crappy casual games which do nothing but paint natal in a really bad way for those of us real gamers who were excited.
He is the first... he better make sure he has this in his Wikipedia profile... and sourced to... I can't imagine how horried some people will get
it's a shame Sony is showing hardcore games with move support... as I don't want my hardcore Sony titles relying on it either... wish both would've just left it to the Wii, Wii has this market dominated and the niche wore off. Prettier 360/PS3 graphics won't make me forget that Im burnt out on playing a game with motion controls...
So far we've seen nothing that would indicate Natal or Move would be REQUIRED for a hardcore game. At this point it's looking like the MC's will be supplying added functionality. If you don't want to use it you don't have to and choice is not a bad thing. There is no evidence as of yet that games will have gimped control systems for standard controllers due to MC's.
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