The SPG details the many things that Sony has done to help bring them and the PS3 into a great position.
Sorry, don't get me wrong, but I find the entire concept of the "Sony Protection Group" to hurt their actual cause. If the PS3 is going to start kickin' a$$, they shouldn't be defending it.
This article should be titled "Things Will Probably Start Looking Great For Sony And PS3," because while they offer a good argument, it's nothing that anyone doesn't already know.
Personally, I think that Sony IS in great shape, and the PS3 CAN win, but if we have sites (and articles) like this then it just seems to everyone else like all of the Sony fanboys simultaneously muttering to themselves "It'll be OK, It'll be OK, Everything will be OK..."
I think the sites name is the ONLY thing influencing your opinion.
I dont mean to be harsh but i will spell it out for the sony fanboys and fanboys only. THE PS3 IS DEAD. IT IS DEAD. ITS OVER.
Once the 360 drops in price it will be all over for the playstation. The playstation wont really drop in price, sony just shifted the models, the "elite" ps3 is still $600. the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of gamers dont really get a console because it can play movies they choose it because of how good and many games there are for it. Which would a smart person choose:
360 elite: HDMI, 1080p, 120gb hdd, tons of games = $429 or less (once they drop the price)
ps3 "elite": HDMI, 1080p, 80gb hdd, a few games = $600
not only that but the most affordable model of the 360 will probably be $250 while the most affordable for the ps3 will be $500.
thats just great N4G you just gave me back my bubble yesterday and you already removed it again? And all because I posted my opinion? Honestly you guys must have worked something out with sony, did they give you alot of money? just look at all the frivolous playstation stories you keep approving. This site has sold-out.
proof that this site is biased, they wouldnt let this story be approved
ok, I'm a huge Playstation fan but this is ridiculous! I've said it before, 1 guys rant on a fan site does not constitute news. No Playstation or 360 sites should be allowed. Once we eliminate these articles from N4G, this site will get better. And we will get better news, no crap speculation, or gamer guessing.
End of Story!
I would appreciate some bubbles.
I cant believe people are still dumb enough to yell PS3 IS DEAD! PS3 IS DEAD!.
In no way is it dead, its just getting started. PS3 have a huge loyal fanbase and is not going anywhere. PS3 will be with us for a very long time, as will the 360 and Wii, so get used to it!
ok for the love of god 10 different post about this Amazon bit
sheesh I happen to agree with them... huh. Sony is setting itself up for success, they just need games, and bad! This holiday season will be a great winter indeed for gamers.
like i have said before, the ps3 was only being stopped by the price and just no games out for it as of yet, besides ngs, anyways, its great that the ps3 is finally picking up steam, lets see what happens after e3 and this fall
Come on guys. The system, the games, third party controllers... Do we really need this many threads to tell us that the price drop has spurned some sales.
alot of stories r arising from the ps3's kool sales spike on amazon. Hey, its a social gaming site with users contributing wat ya expect. The stories are okay though.
they just can't afford it. simple as that
I could get one, but then I'd have to pass on Bioshock, Halo 3, GTAIV, COD4, Mercs 2, HL:Orange Box and a few other titles I want for my 360. Even at $499, its still expensive after I add a headset and component cables, plus at least two games and then tax...
So, I'm just going to start putting some of my video game budget every month toward a PS3. I'm patient - its barely taken off, and it will have even longer legs than the PS2. So I might not get to play Lair until 18 months after release. It will still be a great game, no?
Im not going to boast about my financial status to prove I can own the ps3. Its not just the lack of games that keep me away. It`s the fact I just DON'T want it.
500$ paper weights, sorry. I've got a 360 for games, maybe someday the PS3 will have some.
Yeah, and you will be on your 6th 360 by then. Pathetic M$, really pathetic. You screwed your own nancy fan boys just to beat SONY early to the market and your blind still believe in your system.
C'mon atleast for their sake, make a nice one, oh- Next time that is. LOL !
Sony has no where to go but up. killzone will be sick. with theyre invitations they know it looks good but who knows. MS could reveal a ton of new info and completly steal the show. what if mgs4 is comin to the 360( prob not but if it is) it would be large blow to sony's nuts. i just hope killzone is the best fps ever so when i get a ps3 its worth it and not just a blue ray player.
not only is that an insult to the ps3 but it is also untrue, just ask atari, sega, and all the other companies that thought they had nowhere else to go but up, til they found otherwise.
honestly the ps3 isnt the end for sony but dont think that itll be top dog again its over for sony but not just yet
A game console actually needs games to be successful. Who ever would have thought.
Also selling it at a price people can actually afford is a good thing.
This is all sheer brilliance.
I would like to award Sony Protection Group a shot at winning a brand new crisp $50 dollar bill that I have in bucket number 6.
SPG even makes me look unbiased. I tip my hat to you SPG for making the PS3 look quite feeble. A consoles merits should speak for themselves. Go back to preschool.
Now, only KZ2 must look better then geow, CoD4 and UT3.. and ps3 will own. =)
HS and Uncharted already look impressive, especially last 21 min. HS trailer with developers and some scenes from game.. that one was awesome!
This week is awesome for PS3, sony and gamers! ;)
p.s. anyone to help return my 5th bubble back? thnx. =)
I think Sony has an impressive lineup, but pretending that there's no way they could possibly lose this holiday season just isn't accurate.
Microsoft has an equally impressive lineup (and Halo 3 should kickstart sales) and the Wii is riding on great press, casual gamers and some AAA first-party titles. Sony could turn out OK, it's very likely, but the way I see it all 3 consoles not only have equal chances at winning but will all definitely succeed.
Wait, so I'm getting disagrees because there are people out there who actually think that there's not even a slim chance that the PS3 could lose the holiday season??
I know that everyone on N4G screaming that "THIS SITE IS BIASED" is becoming cliche, but are you guys serious?
(And instead of disagreeing, can someone logically explain this to me?)
But stating about equal chances just before E3.. is not the smartest thing to do. =))
Time will show.. :)
i will try, well you should just wait for lates trailers from mgs4, HS, lair, uncharted, lbp, socom, warhawk, pain, kz2. I mean, hs and uncharted already look like a NEXTGEN games, Lair is EPIC, warhawk is fun MP game, lbp is user friendly. PEOPLE WANT PS3, they just couldn`t afford it, or 600$ price was too much for a console. After E3 you probably understand why there is no slim chance to fail.. :)
Probably get Ninja Gaiden then Lair, Heavenly Sword, M.......G......S......4....... . the list goes on.
You have to wait for the rest.
and tell me if things really look so rosey for Sony. I price drop so early in the consoles lifespan is not a good sign, even if it spurns some sales. They're desperately trying to catch up, not winning the console war.
I'm just looking at it from a stakeholder perspective as opposed to that of a fanboy. As a consumer, by all means celebrate, but don't think Sony's out of woods yet. MS is facing it's own challenges, but it already has a significant install base to cushion it.
There's no way the PS3 is profitable at this point. The article is simply stating what Sony hopes will happen as a result of the price cut. The fact the Sony already needed a price cut is the issue. Now MS will cut the price of the 360, and there's no way Sony can match it again.
Here's a quote from your article:
"'The price cut is unlikely to help the company dramatically expand its market share,' Seiichiro Iwamoto, who helps oversee the equivalent of $809 million at Mizuho Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. 'There is still a large price gap.'"
They mention the fact that Sony is not making any money on the PS3 during the video interview with Jack Tretton- follow my link above. Most consoles are not profitable in their first years of production. They're sold for a loss. Companies try to make their profit from games and accessories, while slowly reducing manufacturing costs. This requires a strong install base, which is where Sony is having trouble.
Unless you bought ps3 1 or 2 weeks ago...
But still, now more people will be able to enjoy a nextgen, and play with you games online on FREE PSN.
So you will be able to play with more people! It`s a good thing!
p.s. Bloomberg: Sony Cuts PlayStation 3 Price, Aims to Double Sales
>>Microsoft is struggling to lift Xbox sales amid an ``unacceptable'' number of repairs made under warranty, the company said on July 6. Glitches in the Xbox 360 console will cost as much as $1.15 billion to fix, Microsoft said.<<
>>Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitable several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices, analyst Doherty said. Microsoft still loses money on each Xbox 360 it sells, he said.<<
just read AGAIN - << Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 << profitable >> several months ago, giving the company room to cut prices >>
"There's no way the PS3 is profitable at this point."
HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE? you are producing PS3s ? and know how much cost to create ps3 today? you know how much cost ps3 parts for sony to buy?
Just give me your argument, not YOUR OPINION.
Sony sold 4 million at $600 with hardly any games, what do you think it's going to happen now that it's $500 and has the best game lineup this year. The darkness and sigma just got release that should hold off people to next month when lair comes out. 360 better sell more than the PS2 before they can get crown next gen console. Sony is hitting M$ from all directions low cost PS2 all the way to high tech PS3. Who do you think is winning? PS2 has out sold the 360 since launch, those are people that most likely buy a PS3 when it get's down to $249-$299 price range. PS3 fans can I have some bubbles Plz
The last 3 weeks, Xbox 360 has outsold PS3 by more than double. Let's wait until Sony can at least win one week before we jump to any conclusions!
I really admire peoples dreams and all(Sony buttboys),but really fellas,proof is in the pudding......you'll finish in 3rd this gen......suck it up!
Oh,and furthermore....don't whine that I shouldn't be commenting on a
PS3 story when you obnoxious Sonydweebs do nothing but troll the 360
ones. Do unto others as they do unto you.........as they say.
EDIT:I apologize for the buttboy and dweeb comments......just having
some fun over the internet.
"Does anybody remember laughter?".............Ro bert Plant.
EDIT 2:To KYUr forPain or whatever......you obviously do.
You say that like anyone cares. LOL
I hate when ppl talk out of their a@@ like they know the future. lets keep our comments relevant to the news story, i understand if you have an opinion, but i hate when ppl talk like this
"Sony PS3 is in the same position as the Dreamcast,Xbox1,3DO(too expensive).
I really admire peoples dreams and all(Sony buttboys),but really fellas,proof is in the pudding......you'll finish in 3rd this gen......suck it up!"
Why ppl talk like if they know the future? lets play games and have fun n if you would like to say something say it, but you don't have to hate.
is the Fox News of Sony.
Sounds like a site full of fanboys with hurt feelings.
SPG = Hardcore Sony Fanboys.
And when you see stuff like this on the site:
"Approve/Heat it up at N4G HERE"
You want to know why all this crap keeps getting approved on N4G?? It's obvious this group of losers is trying to spread their crap to this site and from what I've seen lately it's working.. Thank god not all consoles need a bunch of high school nerds to form a group to "protect it" hahaha
I had 5 bubbles n now UMMMM! i have 4 bubbles, WTF!
MAN! I did not say something stupid or ignorant, ppl just can hear the truth, not saying i speak the truth. You guys know me im not a hater, i keep my comments relevant to the story MAN! It's sad how this site has turned.
you sony kids are desperate, sony gets a temporary sales boost off of a price cut and you guys swear the ps3 will now dominate the industry, why do sony kids always assume so much when it comes to the poo-ray3? any good news and you sony kids immediately make claims of victory, from what a sales spike on amazon? if you look at it the numbers the position of the 360 is steady and the Elite is sold out at amazon after just having been recently resupplied= WITH NO PRICE CUT, they are selling out everywhere at places like Best buy and gamestop too, so you sony kids can keep posting every amazing sales increase 2800000% from amazon 30 times but I bet they will fall quickly and poo-ray3 will barely sell much better than they did last month. Lets see if you guys keep posting amazon news once it drops back to the norm= last place. http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...
Yup,that about sums it up.
I hear the bit rate is better on HD DVD.That's all I have to say about it though,because I'm hear to read about VIDEO GAMES,not a forced
POO RAY format.
POO RAY........great name for it JokesOnYou.
EDIT:Cartman.....how did it feel to be under Kutaragis desk...........
before they retired him,or should I say,fired him.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.........So how does it feel to be under Peter Moore's desk?
i just got home from a hard day of work and i'm happy to see the ps3 price drop making a difference. this news has not even been released to the public yet and is already making large numbers. we will soon see commercials and big advertisements in the weekend ads over the next 2-4 weeks. im glad sony passed on the savings to the consumer, it will definitely increase the install base for the rest of the year.
on my lunch today , i took a stroll to gamecrazy and asked
" did your price drop on the ps3 drop today?"
"i don't think so, let me check my sales update"
suprise, i was the first to notify them of the price drop and this is what i learned
used 60 gb $439.99
used 20gb $329.99
they guy listening almost sh!t his pants, he franticly called his wife and got a approval to buy. he swooped up a used 60gb almost instantly.
i decided to have gamecrazy search for a used 20gig for me( they didn't have any in the store)
i would gladly pay 329.99 for a second ps3..
it felt good to spread the good news.
we got games
. this month
...and after that the list just goes on and on for 5 years or more
Like i said, i don't know what to say about this, it could be fake, it could be true, i just don't know. I think im going to fall asleep if i keep reading this crap. Lets just wat till 2morrow.
but you can't express your opinion on this website anymore. All it has become is if you disagree with someone or if they support the opposing system click disagree, give no explanation as to why and leave bad feedback.
Even if you base things on fact. You will constantly get disagrees.
I think some people that have only one bubble do deserve more. Bootsielon comes to mind, he usually has some good input. Sure the word xbot might be used sometimes but who cares.
I think using the feedback button makes people feel empowered or something, it really is kind of pathetic.
I agree with you. I never used the word xbot or anything similar and i an down to two bubbles. On this side you need to know how to kiss some ass to get bubbles. Support somebodies opinion even though it does not reflect yours.
Go ahead and take another bubble from me.
Yeah, this site is pretty lame. Some reason I get a kick out of seeing people argue. So I come here for my daily dose. Leave the serious discussions on other forums. Anyways, I'll hit +bubbles for you guys.
I think i will keep doing what i do. I will try to keep my comments relevant to the story. I don't really mind if someone disagree with me. People have different opinions, i understand that. But i hate when ppl eat my bubbles just for no reason.
EDIT: I never use the word xbot. You can read all my comments n u will never see the word xbot. I bet that!
I feel you guys. I got debubbled because I said that I think Blu-Ray will win the format war.
I am sorry, but I couldn't care damn about Sony Protection Group and its bull articles.
Long live Gaming and Having Fun!
 I love to randomly disagree from time to time because of the occasional reaction I get and its harmless compared to "give negative feedback". For that matter I tried reporting my own comments as spam excepting some automated warning email but reasonably nothing happened.
funny there already celebrating when the war isnt even close to being over come on ppl lets wait till E3 because alot of things can change in a short amount of time...trust me & mark my words.
remaining neutral,and caring for all of the consoles in your
comments to be an overachieving bubble boy on this site.
That's fine and dandy for some......but Sonys decisions in this
gen have persuaded me,along with numerous family members and friends,to choose the other side for our gaming bliss
this gen.Reasons why,too many to list here.
and their news is garbage.
If starting out like crap, and then improving things to start selling at an average level is a great success, then yes, things are looking good for Sony.
But where I come from, starting out like crap, and then increasing to average still won't get you into the NFL or allow you to compete with the big boys.
Sony still has LOTS of work to do before things will really look good for them. And let's not forget... there IS other competition they're up against.
I'll still need another price cut before I pick up mine.
on the same pace as ps1 and ps2. that may be crap but its sure a nice pattern for crap...
This site rocks and Narutoboy knows how to deal with the xbots and wiitards i have seen him in action in several online forums he is good stuff, propz to Narutoboy for the site it rocks.
I Better start saving my mula now before these games come out although I do have Lair already paid for on reserve!!!! SWEET
Sony didn’t exactly drop the price they changed the sku’s around. The $499 20GB ps3 was dropped from the lineup and replaced with the 60GB for $499. The 60GB $599 was replaced by 80GB version at $599. So the entry ps3 is still $499 and the premium is $599. Nothing really changes….
The ps3 premium from $599 to $599
The ps3 entry from $499 to $499
Sony might be looking good right now, but sure Microsoft, is thinking of a new strategy to beat Sony. I can't wait to see what will come up next!
SONY planed out the strategy for the PS3 very well.
Nintendo planed their strategy very well with the Wii.
Micro$haft,..well they just planed on taking your money as quickly as they could, and now they're paying dearly for it...HAHAHHAHHAHHAHA
Guess whose birthday's today???
I think a congrats is in order... :)
I'll accept congrats from any 360/Wii/PS3 owners, any xbot, any PS3 troll, any 13 year old fanboy anybody..
ohh my GF bought me Darkness.. at last imma give a break to motorstorm.. PS: intro is very cool.
where the hell is the wii and 360 news every time i come to this site all i see it ps3. what the hell is this. more news on the 360 and wii enough is enough
Good job Sony ! Just don't mess it up please !!!
Successful things don't need to be protected, these articles will pop up because of E3 and MS.
WTF with all the Ps3, psp news and same $hit we've been hearing since it was launched.
$100 off after only 7 months of existence is not a good thing. That is called a desperation move. They're getting their butts kicked and they know it.
"Coming out of E3 of 06, the PlayStation 3’s reputation was hurting and many websites were questioning the fate of Sony’s new system. The cumulative sum of a rather weak E3 showing left doubts in the minds of many. However, as the recent events dictates, along with some smart decisions and the implementation of new and innovative ideas/features, they’ve practically turned the whole situation around."
this entire paragraph is wrong (well ill give the SOME smart descisions as in giving kutaragi the long needed boot)
E3 05 and 06 was good for sony, because it was before they had to put their money where there mouth was
every1 was awed by the shiny graphics as they should and hopeful for the future while dreading the price of pretty graphics
first thing after this joke of an introduction is the amazon thing, well guess wat 2800% of 5 is 14000, not that spectacular of a number, but the percentage still is so keep ignoring the sales and comparisons just keep looking at that number like youll have to keep looking at that one good blu ray movie and one descent ps3 game
2nd is Home, wow you can tell the ps3 is REALLY making a comeback when this guy's priority is the percentage and HOME, wow this thing is gonna be as revolutionary as... betamax.. and UMD, and.. oh yea blu-ray! its just a virtual house where i can buy stuff that i can look at and go OOOH pretty that was worth all taht of money!
3rd FINALLY games something the ps3 needs and MIGHT actually get, hmmm but wait wats this all our exclusives are gone now!! (with a possible deadly blow of losing MGS4) oh noes wat will we do!!! oh how about put a butload of media into the remaining exclusives like KILLZONE 2! cuz killzone 1 was such a great game and 2 is gonna be even prettier!
oh and then i love how he starts commenting on how sites like sony protection group are gonna help the ps3.. yeah keep hoping, its always nice to dream
amazingly even with endorsements from narutoboy the ps3 might actually get a few good games.. suprisingly but guess wat a few good games isnt gonna sell a system and neither will positive spin, (price cuts will somewhat), and the ridiculous idea of Home.
the ps3 is dying slow and painfully
I really wish ps3 fanboys woud stop posting from sony protectioin group
Wtf fanboys don't you get tired of posting lame BS from BS sites like SPG. To even use that site as a source of positive information shows how desperate for good news you are.
Your really reaching fanboys...
Though the site is obviously biased towards PS3 its still a fact that Sony and PS3 have brighter times ahead
"Things Are Looking Great For Sony And PS3"
now I can comment...NOW!...things are looking great for Sony lol