ThisKidPlaysGames.com writes: "Nintendo have been top dog of the portable gaming world for nearly 2 decades, but Sony's PSP sure as hell hasn't gone down without a fight. Now we decide out of the 2 who has the best games library.
Sorry PSP, Ds has pokemon. You won't beat that. Ever.
Pokemon rocks. I'd say the DS considering it's backwards compatible and features a little more innovative gameplay in terms of touch screen gaming. While DS games feel like good portable games the PSP feels like toned down PS3 games, in which case I'd just get a PS3. Though, that's not true for all their games. Personally I'd love a DS for its touch screen games. Like parapraxis below says, it's all about preference.
DS has the more casual games, PSP has more hardcore games. Personally I prefer the PSP, but to each his own. PS: MGS Peace Walker looks sick
Not just Pokemon, but DQ and FF also, SE is still alive when it comes to the DS, Chrono Trigger Remake, and The World Ends With You.
DS has the better library. But being a MGS fan.. i'd jump out and buy a PSP if i could over a DS. But yes, I understand I'm boarding a sinking ship >.< PSP has alot of games i want to play. ala GoW/Resistance/MGS mainly because I am a fan of the franchise thanks to the ps2/3. If i wasn't so blindly in love with these franchises (note: these games have a sequel/prequel on psp), i wouldn't even think about picking up a psp.
Handhelds start with Nintendo, and end with Nintendo. Ds ftw!
The DS, for the simple fact that it has Pokemon. The people who diss Pokemon without playing it just don't get it. Its so addictive and so engrossing of an RPG experience. I sold my PSP 2 years ago cause I thought it was useless. Most of the games that were worth playing were just dumb rehashes of console versions, even though I thought Chains of Olympus and Resistance was pretty darn good...but not better than Pokemon.
DS has more Games and PSP is losing support thanks to Piracy, but PSP has those "core" Games that are Simply Awesome like GOW:COO + GT Portable + MGS:PW and the other MGS potables... difficult decision....
def. the DS, especially for RPGs.
I would have to say DS but the PSP does have some really good games, (GOW:CoO being probably my most favourite) and also the abilty to be able to play some classic PS1 games like resi Evil and MGS. But overall games like Chrono Trigger, Mario & Luigi 1/2, two zelda's, two amazing castlevania's, two advanced wars, pokemon, etc, etc. makes me go for the DS
DS is a freaking joke,it gets ridiculous respect only because of it's success on the market thanks to girls and moms,there is only one game on DS that worth a damn and that's The world ends with you,and that's about it. PSP is the best handheld ever.Damn the piracy,and damn the comedians XD
I'd vote for the PSP When I had the DS Pokemon and Ultimate MK3 were the only games I played on it. PSP has a lot more games that's geared towards what I'm looking for.
@deadreckoning666: if you find that prime example of repeatitiveness and flat gameplay that's pokemon "addictive", and you're more than 15 years old, seriously mate, I pity you.
@Abriael Your incapability to understand simple difference of opinion or personal taste is what is pitiful. If you can't see why a game like that could appeal to all ages then you're the one who needs to grow up.
I'll make it simple: if you prefer the PSP, you're most likely a 14 year old pseudo-"hardXcore" gamer who only plays (popular/hyped/etc) "mature" games for "mature" people such as themselves, and DS gamers are most likely people who enjoy playing unique portable titles with interesting gameplay. I own both and my PSP is constantly collecting dust. Does it have good games? Sure, or else I wouldn't own one. The DS, on the other hand, has a far superior library of titles - most of which you would never see anywhere else and I take it everywhere. The DS is the ultimate handheld GAMING machine, and possibly has the biggest selection of any current gen platform. The PSP is a cool homebrew device that sometimes gets some cool games.
PSP games seem like toned down PS3 games. If I wanted a PS3 game I'll just get it for my PS3. DS games seem more original and the 2 screens and bottom touch screen add a more innovative feel.
both have sorry libraries, which is why I don't own either of them
Make a new handheld, the PSP2, that has all the gaming capablitites of a console. 2 joysticks, 4 shoulder buttons, built in HDD, ect... I expect them to announce it this year at E3, if they don't then I will be dissappointed.
@catch let us see. Character design aimed to kids: check Very banal and dull story aimed to kids: check Use of kiddish language: check Repeatitive, oversimplified gameplay that's perfect for kids: check Marketing entirely aimed to kids: check If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck and smells like a duck, I'm sorry, it's a duck. No matter how much people that "gotta catch 'em all!" bend over twice in order to try and validate their little vice. Pokemon's age target is no different than Petz or Imagine.
DS, hands down. And I don't even play Pokemon. DS has a very wide variety of excellent titles from all genres including RPGs, puzzle games, action games, etc. It's more or less exclusively carried the good Castlevanias (that use the SOTN model), this gen's highest-rated JRPGs, breakout titles like Trauma Center and Phoenix Wright, huge casual games like Nintendogs, and so many more. PSP is fine and has solid titles. But I agree it's little more than a mini Playstation.
Bah, pokemon hasn't changed much since the GBA versions. Anyway, tough call. On one hand, the PSP has more of the hardcore games that I enjoy, but on the other hand, DS has a lot more games. I might call it a draw. EDIT: oh, and like someone said in the article, the sports games are a lot better on the PSP.
I guess it depends if you use the homebrew/custom firmware stuff. I'm not even talking about illegally. If you get cfw, you can have every ps1, SNES, NES, GBA and PSP game there is (N64 as well, but doesn't run well), very legally if you own the games. IF you take that into consideration (big "if"), the PSP library has a much better library. If just talking about PSP games, you can dismiss ps1 games, as that's similar to backwards compatibility (although I would say ps1 has a massively better library than the DS has access to), but you can't dismiss PSN games. Anyway, there are really about an equal number of games on each handheld I enjoy, and it's very limited, as I find handhelds to be limited in the first place. Console-lite is how I see them. Fun when away from home, but I will never prefer a handheld over a home console unless they somehow make the screens bigger (would have to be an illusion because 1/2 an inch bigger is not what I mean...I'm talking holographic projection and such =P ) and the sound vastly superior (vast majority of games are limited to very basic stereo...would like some type of virtual surround sound with special headphones or something just as good/better).
i have both . i enjoy both . i currently enhancing my garage in GT psp but that doesn't prevent me from playing a mario kart ds . IMO the ds is more complete as a library .. but the psp is now trully done( as very good on many aspect ) There is no equivalent of god of war chain of olympus on ds for exemple .. wipeout pulse is a great game too , so is gtpsp and many others Overall the ds is still on top but if i was considering only last year the psp would have been on top easily .. but that's just a matter of taste
Depends on my mood. Most people who own a PSP, probably own a PS3 as well. The problem sets in with the PS3. It's stealing the spotlight. Sony should do something about this. I highly doubt it has much to do with piracy. It's like, once it got cracked they ceased marketing. Big mistake in my opinion. That's why people only buy a couple games for the PSP. It's because they don't know what else is out there. For instance, everyone crowns DS JRPG king but have these people played the beautifully enhanced Star Ocean games (one of which never made it here to the states). Or how 'bout the new Lunar remake? Or Persona? Or Crisis Core for that matter. PSP even has Monster Hunter. I'm not buying the mini-PS3 argument. It's just because Sony won't market. Hell, I seem to remember both strong critical and user reaction to both Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions and Jeanne D'Arc. It's not like the PSP's hurting. They have everything there. They just need to market. Especially with Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Valkyria Chronicles 2, and Persona 3 Portable right around the corner. How is the PSP hurting?!? No offense, but Pokemon doesn't make up for all that. Of course, Nintendo has produced just as many RPGs: Final Fantasy III/IV, Suikoden Tierkries, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor/Strange Journey, and The World Ends With You. I just don't see how a true gamer could favor one over the other. Especially if you love more than just the JRPG. PSP has offered many hits such as: Daxter, God of War: Chains of Olympus, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty/Vice City Stories, Killzone: Liberation, Lumines, Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters, Ridge Racer, Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror/Logan's Shadow, and WipeOut Pure/Pulse (etc...). DS has offered sequels to all their timeless hits. Every last one has held up rather well considering. To dis one is to dis the other. It's all about love not hate. Both have done well.
I would chose a PSP mainly for homebrew. However there are tons of games that are interesting on the DS such as the FF remakes and Chrono Trigger but then again i can play the originals on PSP SNES emulators. :S So yes if you are willing to use homebrew the PSP is a much better platform with a lot more options on what to play. But if i were to compare stock games the DS takes the cake.
Just own both, way too many reasons for it.
Personal preference really, most DS games are very kiddie or for moms...that includes Pokemon. I'd much rather have Chains of Olympus, GT Portable, Patapon, R&C, etc.
The DS hands Down, has the best library.
I love my ps3 but in the handheld area nintendo owns.The psp just dos't have the rpgs the the ds has.The ds has a crap load of core games way more the the psp does.Its the one bright spot that nintendo was able to cater to both on.I think sony needs to junk the psp and start over or do things right on there next handheld but i have a feeling sony would be wasting money.
right. thats the main let down of this gen. If you wanna play a good RPG, there is only one choice: DS. PS3/wii/360/psp/<name of conosles that imissed> can't compare to the amazing rpg library of DS. Which actually saddens me.. i wish to see those RPGs come to HD consoles. Because I dont like pouring my eyes out on a small handheld.. (i owned a gameboy color back in the day.. but havn't bothered with handhelds since) So.. yeah.. i hope to see more RPGs on consoles.. but the dev cost and time just makes people jump to handhelds..
im on the market for a ds, could u make a list of must have RPGs? thx in advance
excuse me? The DS has the most/best RPG? yeassure. Persona 3 Portable Shin Megami Tensei: Persona Lunar Siver Star harmony (best portable RPG of all times) The original Final Fantasy Tactics (that's better than the sequel) Valkyria Chronicles 2 Hexyz Force Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition Final Fantasy II Anniversary Edition Final Fantasy VII Crisis core Final Fantasy Agito XIII (this one will come, but guess what, it ain't coming on DS, what did someone say about Square Enix? Sorry mates, but all the most awaited new Final Fantasy portable games go on PSP) Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness Jeanne d'Arc (another of the best ever) Star Ocean First Departure Phantasy Star Portable Yggdra Union Crimson Gem Saga RIVIERA: The Promised Land Dragoneer's Aria Class of Heroes Tales of Eternia Tales of the World Valhalla Knights Monster Hunter Freedom Monster Hunter Freedom 2 And tons more. without even talking about the compatibility with PS1 classics of course. And the PS1 library has by itself, more quality RPGs than the DS will ever have. Sorry, but as an RPG fan and an owner of both systems, my PSP gets at least 3 times as much action as my DS. Kids can keep their stupidly repeatitive pokemon (if you play that and you're more than 15 years old, seriously, that's pityful). The DS has a much bigger library, but as of quality, the PSP trounches it hands down. Numbers are useless anyway, quality is what counts, since there are so many RPGs both on PSP and DS that you won't ever be able to play them all, not even if you have no life. And quality is on the PSP.
Seeing as you're going to give us a list of games Abriael, can you add some scores to that list from some sources? You can use Metacritic or whatever, a list of games doesn't mean they are any good does it? It's just a list. It doesn't mean they are any good, maybe some of them are in your opinion, but it doesn't mean they are better than what's on the ds. It's just a list of games. Anyone could do that with ds games. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Final Fantasy IV The World Ends With You Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride Chrono Trigger Pokemon Diamond Version Pokemon Pearl Version Lunar Knights Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days Pokemon Platinum Version Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales Final Fantasy III LostMagic Etrian Odyssey Fossil Fighters Suikoden Tierkreis Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon Pokemon Ranger Mega Man Battle Network 5: Double Team Magical Starsign Digimon World DS Dokapon Journey Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier Luminous Arc 2 Summon Night: Twin Age Orcs & Elves Fossil League: Dino Tournament Championship See, I just did one. And it means nothing.
You know, if review scores are your thing (and anyone that knows more than nothing about games, also knows that review scores are not exactly the best way to judge games, expecially Japanese games), metacritic is available to everyone, and has a nice, confortable search function.
That's my point. You could list a thousand games on psp that I may like, but I may not like them. It's kinda small minded to think that if someone likes a certain game they must be a certain age. Games are games, if it's something I like I'll play it. Age has nothing to do with it, that's just a poor argument. I prefer DS, you prefer psp. But I wouldn't criticise someone for only liking games on psp. I certainly wouldn't bring age into it. That's where you and I differ.
Traditional Turn-based RPGs Final Fantasy 3 Final Fantasy 4 Chrono Trigger Lunar: Dragon Song Suikoden Tierkreis Dragon Quest 4 Dragon Quest 5 Dragon Quest 6 (i believe 9? is coming soon) Sands of Destruction A Witch's Tale Black Sigil Glory of Heracles Nostalgia SMT Strange Journey Dungeon Maker Wizard of Oz My World, My Way Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saiyans The Dark Spire Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure Dokapon Journey Turnbased with Button timed actionthe halfway home for Mario and Luigi titles and the like. Mario & Luigi : Partners in Time Mario & Luigi : Bowsers inside story Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier-EXCEED (J) Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood Action RPGs The World Ends With You Contact Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon Rune Factory 2 Rune Factory 3 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates Lunar Knights: Vampire Hunters Lost Magic Pokemon Ranger Soma Bringer Phantasy Star 0 Avalon Code Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days Summon Night Twin Age From The Abyss Summon Night Twin Age Element Hunters Kaiju Busters YS books 1 & 2 Away Shuffle Dungeon Tales of Innocence Tales of Hearts Tales of Tempest Choushoujuu Mecha MG Ragnarok Steal Princess Orcs & Elves Spore Creatures Children of Mana Cross Treasures Estpolis:The land cursed by the Gods Mega Man Star Force: Dragon Mega Man Star Force: Leo Mega Man Star Force: Pegasus Tactics Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 Front Mission 1st Front Mission : 2089 Border of Madness Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Rondo of Swords Luminous Arc Luminous Arc 2 Luminous Arc 3 (J) Disgaea: Hour of Darkness Fire Emblem : Shadow Dragon Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume Hero's Saga: Laevatein Tactics Knights in the Nightmare Super Robot Taisen W Super Robot Taisen K Drone Tactics SD Gundam G Generation DS SD Gundam CrossDrive Hoshigami Ruining Blue Earth Remix Bleach 3rd Phantom Atelier Annie Real Time Strategy Lock's quest Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings Heroes of Mana Robocalypse Blue Dragon Plus Monster Collection Pokemon Diamond & Pearl Pokemon Platinum Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Dragon Quest Monsters : Joker Dragon Quest Monsters : Joker 2 Spectrobes Spectrobes: Beyond The Portals Fossil Fighters Dungeon Crawlers Etrian Odyssey Etrian Odyssey heroes of Lagaard Dungeon Explorer: Warrior of Ancient Arts Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja 2 Tao's Adventure: Curse of the Demon Seal Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness
Gotta have a giggle at the number of Pokemon, Digimon, whatever-mon games you listed. Yes, if you like games for kids, then the DS is the portable console for you, hands down :D It's funny how the list you posted has a very, very low average quality. Tons of showelware, tons of shoddy rehashings (like the horrible lunar rehashings, guess what? the only real lunar portable game is on the PSP). Unfortunately for the nintendo fanboys, more or less all the cheap, low cost-low budget-low quality productions go there. More or less all the high profile games go on PSP. There's a reason for that :D
Take out those "Pokemon, Digimon, whatever-mon" games then, what's left then? Is every game you don't agree with for kids? It seems that's your only argument. It's not a very good one.
What's left is a good 80% of cheap, low-budget-low-quality productions and a vast minority of actual good games.
I've actually played almost all the games I just listed and most of them are very good.In fact only a couple of the games I listed have lower than a 75% average and a lot are over 85 with a few in the 90's . Also Pokemons a lot deeper than you think here just look at this http://www.smogon.com/dp/po... that's just an example. look at any other Pokemon(except something that's NFE or NU because their not used in competitive battles) and see how complex the game really is. as far as competitive battling gos Pokemons extremely deep
pokemon are rpgs ..not just games for kids. story : check leveling :check exploration : check battles ( offline or online ): check sh*t amount of mini games in case you want more : check replay value : check pokemon games are rpgs ... every rpg is not for everyone but the rpgs on ds are not "for kids " . Play etrian odissey and come back and tell me it's for kids..
I <3 old school dungeon crawlers. By the way Redempteur if you like etrian odyssey try out the dark spire it's also by atlus and its very similar to etrian odyssey although I like it a bit better.
Abriael, I'm sure sitting here pretending you know everything about every DS game can't be as much fun as actually playing them.
lol etrian odissey made me learn things at life . "if you see a grass , don't check what's inside, just avoid it " "poison hurt a lot, heal without delay" "if you see a giant monster coming your way , avoid it , or be ready " " the empty room is only empty if you've already killed the monster hidding inside it " " a team of only warriors never works " my REAL life is safer now that i follow these rules ... @darkfocus Thanks for the tip but i try every rpg i can put my hand on, even if can't immerse myself in one.. that's why iv'e tried every rpg on psp , ds , ps2, wii ( and many ps3 ) that went out ( currently busy with lunar silver star story and strange journey ) Rpg fans should be overjoyed these days with good titles on every platform
i wonder since i have not played pokemon too much I would get a DS, but ninty is releasing a different version almost every year, and the rumors of the 3d DS, or DS2, WTF to do with so much uncertainty, but then again the DS library is already phenomenal
I recommend picking up a ds lite. They don't have all the same bells and whistles as the dsi but you can get them dirt cheap and they still have the gameboy advance slot. As a 26-year-old I enjoy pokemon games but the charm is really in playing it along with a friend who has it too so you can trade and battle. Heaps of great games on the DS you really can't go wrong.
If you you've waited this long I'd wait a bit longer. the 3DS is confirmed to be backwards compatible and it's not just a revision it's a new hand held.
while i stopped playing pokemon after Gold. I still have many friends that are a fan of Pokemon, and most of them a re in Grad school. Not everyone is out for a serious RPG ya know? If it's your thing, i totally respect that. Plus, any RPG works well if it's portable ;)
Gotta be DS for me, it's just got so many quality games. I've got loads of games for it and still have more I want.
They both have great games, but I would actually say the DS inches it out. They are both excellent platforms.
Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core Metal Gear Solid Series God of War Chains of Olympus Grand Theft Auto Series Ratchet & Clank Size Matter Resistance Retribution Syphon Filter Series Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep PSOne Classics ..........
Have we got to start posting lists of games now? I hope not, that'll take me ages.
Yes, and you'll list 1% of good games and 99% of showelware for kids.
Well you can have fun making your lists if you want, maybe you enjoy it. I've got better things to do than making lists. The only list I ever make is a shopping list.
Well the DS. I like my PSP's games but i like to play ps1 classics, and those r not relly psp
I find myself playing DS more often as it has quite a library of interesting games. I usually play big name games on PSP such MGS, GOW, and GT and use it for movies while on the go, O and yes for PS1 classics as well.
Metal Gear Solid peace walker The Last Ranker Valkyria Chronicles 2 Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Fantasy 13 agito Parasite Eve 3rd Birthday Resident Evil psp Monster Hunter 3rd Ensures that my psp will see plenty of action this year and in the future.
monster hunter tri will blow that out the water..
but a friend of mine tht had a PSP got a DS and he's loving it probably have both =) its a lot cheaper than having 2 HD consoles =D
I have both psp eats ds.
the ps3 eats the psp and if the ps3 eats the psp then the ds clearly eats the psp..
Both are aimed a different markets. If your looking for more hardcore games then the PSP by far, but it you want more casual games then the DS.
i know one nintendo ds game you will probably have problems with if your new to the series thats rune factory im sure you will get stuck so fast you would go online to get help or buy the guide for the game..
PSP cause it has the games I love. COD GOW FF7:CC FF:D MH series DAXTER K&D SW:battlefront There are many others that people will enjoy. Those are just some of the games, not including the epics ones that are going to release this year.
I have both. I prefer the DS by far. PSP does not stand a chance in my opinion. I have 9 games for my DS, and two for my PSP. PSP: Ridge Racer God of War: Chains of Olympus. DS: Zelda: Phantom Hourglass Zelda: Spirit Tracks Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars Mario Kart DS Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Professor Layton & the curious village Professor Layton & the diabolical box Ninja Gaide: Dragon Sword Chrono Trigger
Just Download a Gameboy emulator onto psp and there you pokemon on the psp
He's got a point... PSP can emulate a lot of games.
So can a ds. What a great argument.
Nice twist. PSP emulates a lot more, though.