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I Am A Christian; This Industry Don't Give A Crap About Me

In recent news, we learned that Walmart is very interested in distributing the Christian games around the country, but before it invests heavily, the retailer would like to see how the games perform in broader regions first.

But other evidence points to a tough road ahead, and why in order for the retail giant to find success, the industry on a whole must change its behaviors.

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GeneralCole2300d ago

Screw religious games they are nothing but propaganda

avengers19782300d ago

Would you like maybe a crusades game, or spanish torture simiulator, I got Witch Trails the burning of Salem.
It's funny how almost every religon is identical to the other yet they all hate eachother.

lh_swe2299d ago

Thank you for introducing me to this guy, he's good.

ChrisW2299d ago (Edited 2299d ago )

Sometimes Pat Condell's (the guy in the video) anti-organized religion rants can be a little extreme... but even so, they are fairly rational and based on factual evidence.

lh_swe2298d ago

And I agree 100% with almost everything he says.

ChrisW2298d ago

I've been a subscriber to his channel for almost two years.

lh_swe2298d ago

and thanks once again.

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Anorexorcist2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

I am Atheist, and I am happier than I have ever been and I'm proud of it.

At least Atheists don't impose their will on everyone and don't try to make their opinions into law.

xTruthx2300d ago

Are you sure about that ? because I though they where trying to take out the "In god we trust" and they did

Anorexorcist2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

"Under God" was never writing into the original Pledge of Allegiance.

It was added to it in 1953 because of fascist Christians who follow that thought that everyone should be playing by their rules (and also by p*ssified politicians who feared any kind of backlash if they opposed it and displayed their true ideals on it.)

It was simply trying to right a wrong. "In God We Trust" is still on all legal U.S. currency.

Jerk1202300d ago

Do not talk about all atheists, as if you can speak for them, and do not talk about all christians, as if you can speak for them also.

lh_swe2300d ago

1.But religion IS imposed on people, especially in America.

2.Where does he say he speaks for all of them?

Religion is not to be imposed on anyone yet IT IS, and that is why I am happy video games encourage the biggest power-play in human history.

The Killer2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

"At least Atheists don't impose their will on everyone and don't try to make their opinions into law. "

very wrong assumption, the Atheist(some/many) do impose their beliefs (of the non existence of God) on others and spend billions to do mass mind control through media/music/movies/cartoons etc, the fact that France (atheist country) is banning few muslim women to cover their face is an action of imposing their belief, in Switzerland they banned building towers on the mosque which is an islamic tradition, even in muslim countries the atheist governments who is supported by the atheist governments in the west r banning even the Hijab which is covering the hair only, and the story goes on and on.

as for violence etc, well Hitler and Bush are prime examples of mass murder and war criminals and they r atheist(Bush is part of the black brotherhood/freemasons/zionist group which is anti-God)

and to compare any religion in this planet to Islam u r doing unjust to your self and to islam!!

Islam have this unique characteristics:

1: the only religion that calls for only 1 God and the unification of the Creator. there is 1 god and no 3 in 1 or 2 in 1!!!

2: the only religion in the world which preserved their holy book and it is unchanged not by a single letter for 1400+ years!!

3: the only book which works and can be implemented in any time in history and is modern and encourage knowledge as part of the faith.

4: the only book that with time more and more complicated sciences being discovered that never existed 1400 years ago and was only possible to discover/know about it through modern technology and science was already mention in the Quran 1400+ years ago(these r miracles from God to prove and challenge mankind with His book)

5: the only book that there is no errors in context/grammar/contradictions etc, so it is perfect book since it is 100% from God word by word!!

6: and the final message of God which came from his last messenger Mohammed Peace Be Upon Him, and which came for All mankind!! not just Arabs or dark skin people!! Jesus Peace Be Upon Him came for ONLY the lost sheep of Israel and this is in the bible and his said it him self too!!

so basically Islam is the only religion that came for the entire humanity and does not discriminate on any race, there is no racism in Islam!! we are all equal and the only difference is the level of being closer to God(through thoughts and actions)!! and new convert their sins will be forgiven by God mercy and can start a new life! and there is no forcing to accept religion in Islam.

so when u say all religions r similar and fighting each other and they impose to each other u r making a mistake of grouping the false with the truth!!

a story:
prophet mohammed PBUH saw a man in the desert, and he told him if he wanted to know something great? the man say yes, then he told him to believe in 1 God and worship nothing but God and that he is the messenger of God, the man asked him what proof u have that there is a God, and prophet mohamed PBUH replied by "when there is a footprint of the camel in the desert/ground, isnt it a proof that a camel passed through here?" the man replied yes, then prophet mohamed PBUH said then is it a proof that the sun and the moon and the universe and the earth and everything around us the way it is and it works the way it is, then doesnt that show that there is a being/creator/almighty/all powerful/God that made these things? the man was convinced and became muslim.

Darrius Cole2299d ago

What a loaded topic. I will try to be brief, as I am late to the discussion and most likely this post won't be read, but still there is a lot to cover, so it will probably be long anyway.

My Pedigree: I consider myself a religious person, Christian, born again and all that.

My findings: (in no particular order)

1. The most important thing is people.
2. People tend to forget that the most important thing is people. We want to reinforce our way of doing things...our dogma, our language, our way of dress, our culture etc., without considering how things look from the other guys point of view or how our views do or would affect his life.

3. Many atheists are evangelical. They try just as hard, maybe even harder, to convince you that there is no god as the religious try to convince you that there is a god, or some gods if you prefer.

4. People tend to get their culture and dogma mixed up with their religion.

@Killer - You mentioned western countries banning the traditional styled Mosques and the women from wearing the face and head covering. That is probably a reaction to culture clash and a rejection on Islamic faith. I've never lived in a Muslim community so I don't have full understanding, however, from my point of view it seems that Muslims often try not to blend in to the native culture when they move there.

When you go to Rome, do as the Romans do. The traditional-styled Mosque, I think, is ancient Persian architecture. Putting that in Switzerland goes against their culture. Why would you put something like that in France, or China, or Japan, or the England? The same goes for the women were the head-dress (is it call 'Hajib') or the face covering. Native French women don't cover their face. Why would a woman do that in France? It screams "I'M NOT ONE YOU." Think about how it looks it from their point of view.

5. Almost all people want the same thing. To live their life in peace and prosperity, in the way that they choose.

I've got to go now so I will say this and explain later if I've got the time.

If an idea is good it can withstand the challenge of other conflicting ideas.

Darrius Cole2299d ago

When I wrote,

"You mentioned western countries banning the traditional styled Mosques and the women from wearing the face and head covering. That is probably a reaction to culture clash and a rejection on Islamic faith."

I meant to say,

"You mentioned western countries banning the traditional styled Mosques and the women from wearing the face and head covering. That is probably a reaction to culture clash and NOT a rejection on Islamic faith."

That is a very big typo of profoundly changes what I meant to say.

Also instead of,

"It screams "I'M NOT ONE YOU.""

I meant to say,

It screams "I'M NOT ONE OF YOU."

That typo is minor and it is fairly easy to tell what I meant to communicate.

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alaa2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Now here's a topic worthy of discussion. I agree with the points the author make about giving gamers the option to disable certain aspects they don't want in the game. Not much, but stuff like cuss words, nudity etc.

Just like they make edited versions of CDs... in the music industry.

And yes, Killzone 2 was full of uncalled cussing that was plain stupid.

-Alpha2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

My main issue with Christian games from what I've come to know is that they are used to educate, and I have no problem with that. No one's putting a gun to my head to buy an educational game. Personally, I want to see some amazing games done in the name of religious overtones. We already have great ones like God of War and Assassin's Creed.

I'm not sure if a game surrounding the Old Testament or Christianity would work though. What would you do, play as Old Testament characters? Would the purpose be to educate? to entertain? Wouldn't education bore audiences? Wouldn't entertainment be controversial to holy texts?

This is why I love God of War and what Santa Monica Studios did: they took a rich, mysterious, and enchanting mythology and brought it to gorgeous life.

In fact, this is what I want to see them continue in God of War. We know Kratos' story is dead, so why not move on to other religions/myths? Norse Myth? Maybe a game surrounding Buddhism?

Religious games don't have to take on the religion itself, but pulling out religious themes has always existed in many, many games. That's what makes a story so great in a game. When they make you think, or impact you, or do something unexpected, etc.

The thing with Christian games wanting to publish in Walmart is that I'm absolutely sure we are going to see titles marketed towards Nintendo's Wii where titles are only there to educate younger children. That is why I don't really care for it. It would be interesting to see the industry tackle an actual religious story closely to the text, but they will have to be pretty bold and do something interesting with it. Look at AC2 and how they create fictitious storylines by adopting religious stories. In truth I don't really search for specific games like Christian games or FPS's-- if a game looks good to me I'll buy it. By all means, bring on Christian games. I just doubt the quality of the titles.

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Kratos Spartan2300d ago

Jesus prefers the Playstation.

thorstein2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

And at least I can use proper grammar.

God doesn't cuss? Since when? Have you read what the Bible says? There are worse things in the Bible: incest, murder, rape, carnage, slavery...than in any myriad of video games.

Article FAIL.

Christopher2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

When you go to see a movie, is there a violence/language/nudity filter? When you read a book, is there a violence/language/nudity filter? Why would there be one with video games?

The fact that there is more violence/language/nudity in all mediums is a sign of the general populace desiring as such. It's just good marketing that is following the tend of the public. Thinking that video games should be altered or have filters for language is akin to telling the people who create the games that they should enable censorship options for what they want to provide to the community. If people asked an author or a director to do this to their medium, it would be a huge issue with censorship, and it should be one here as well.

I'm sorry that you don't like certain things in your video game, but the choice is yours and the level of each is presented on the case as well as reflective of the rating of the game. I want developers to create what they envision, not two versions of the same game just because people don't want to hear what they want to say in the first place.

***God doesn't cuss? Since when? Have you read what the Bible says? There are worse things in the Bible: incest, murder, rape, carnage, slavery...than in any myriad of video games. ***

I've seen this argument before and it comes from a misunderstanding of the purpose of the material. Look at it this way, would you watch a movie about the history of The Holocaust without any reference to the vile acts that were performed against the Holocaust victims? No. The Bible's use of the other elements is done in a similar manner, as a tool to teach you what others have done and why it is wrong. Same concept as showing aborigines in full in National Geographic, to get an idea of how those people live and how they are not bothered by the parts of the body we're told to keep covered up every day.

Education can't just include only the good words and events, it has to encompass it all to truly educate someone.

Please note: I am an atheist, I was brought up as a Roman Catholic and 'lost my way' or however you want to say it. But, there is no doubt that The Bible itself is a strong tool for use in teaching people how to be better people just by showing the bad that people perform and how it is better to do good and the rewards one finds for doing as such. I learned many of my personal morals today from the The Bible, I just don't believe that there is a divine being who created us or place we go to after we die and yadda yadda yadda.

It is sad that many have instead used The Bible to fuel anger in the world, the exact opposite of what it teaches one to do.

sikbeta2300d ago

lol @ The Picture, that's so Wrong, I mean, some stuff better leave it as it is..

O-T:

I believe in a God, I don't go to church every Sunday, I respect the Religions, I don't want keep talking about Religion all the Time, I know there are things you don't have to do and some of those "Rules" got more to do with Common Sense than Religion, but It's OK, I don't like the Idea of Put Religion in Gaming, I don't like the Idea of make fun of religion in Gaming, so just we can stay cool if we put [Gaming] and [Religion] aside, the same way I put [Intimacy] and [Religion] aside

xXRight3yeXx2300d ago

I'm a Muslim and i have to say, i'm not religious at all. But that's not my point. My point is, that the gaming industry MUST use these strong languages. It suits what adult does nowadays. It makes it REAL. Don't you see?

I mean, if you're in a middle of a war and the enemy landed a bomb which explode right in front of you, would you say, "Oh Man" or would you say "F*k"? Please be realistic. If you don't like games to be realistic then fine, go back to playing your old NES.

If you're so worried about going to hell, then why don't you think about other things that you committed sins on? $ex before marriage, alcohol, gamble, why game?

Like my old man used to say.

"It's just a game"

Ocelot5252300d ago

let the christians eat cake

ShadowRyuX2300d ago

@thorstein, you are an idiot. I don't normally insult people especially because I like to take the high road and be as mature as possible, but you sir are a moron.

"God doesn't cuss?"
Correct, he does not use swear words.
"Since when?"
Since forever.
"Have you read what the Bible says?"
Yes.
"There are worse things in the Bible: incest, murder, rape, carnage, slavery...than in any myriad of video games."
Again those aren't swear words. In addition to this incest, murder, & rape ARE ALL FROWNED UPON IN THE BIBLE. I dare you to find me ONE verse where God says "Good job my good and faithful servants you did one excellent job raping your sisters!" And murder is also looked down upon, killing is a completely different story, but murder is a SIN.

Think before you speak.

And to the post talking about movies and books. A: Most respectable books don't have swear words in them nor do they have nudity. B: No one goes to a movie thinking "I can't wait to see Matt Damon curse up a storm" they go thinking about how awesome the story is going to be or how thrilling the action sequences are going to be.

In my opinion a word is only as powerful as you make it and that is why swear words are swear words, because of the power people give them. However, while we are still in a society that frowns upon cursing in any professional setting we should also cut them from our movies and games. Its not clever and adds nothing to the plot and a GOOD writer could do much better. Regardless of religion you can admit there is so much unnecessary cursing and such in our entertainment. I highly doubt anyone thought the cursing in Killzone 2 made it better. In fact most people believed that it made it worse.

Parapraxis2300d ago

LFAO @ ShadowRyuX
"Most respectable books don't have swear words in them nor do they have nudity"
GO TO YOUR LIBRARY, LOOK UP SHAKESPEARE.

*faaaacepalm*

Solidus187-SCMilk2300d ago

this guy wants games about killing things with guns and swords to have a nudity and language filter.

maybe he should go play LBP and banjo.

YUP I WAS RIGHT. HE COMPLAINS ABOUT BAD LANGUAGE IN A BUNCH OF FPS GAMES ABOUT WAR WHERE YOU SHOOT COUNTLESS PEOPLE IN THE FACE.

Also, Im pretty sure if I was shotting people/getting shot at in real life Id be dropping F bombs left and right.

So according to this "born again Christian" shooting and violence is not disturbing but bad language is?

WHAT A FREAKING PU$$%. Sorry, had to say it. If bad language bothers you that much, stick to the games rated E.

Cold 20002300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Thats really weak.

The bible tells the story of Man. The story of people. The story of individuals

How do you want to tell the story of the being that is man without mentioning those things. That IS what we see on this earth. That IS what man does on this earth. Its a realistic portrait of the world we live in. How do you want to speak of bad and evil, about mankind in general without speaking of its bad traits ?

Moreover do you really think that a narrative of such things (by the way the Bible NEVER goes into detail on such things) is the same as actually DOING and kind of EXPERIENCING it in a videogame. Because thats what videogames are for: take us into a virtual REALITY.

Its not because the Bible mentions rape or murder for instance (and once again it NEVER goes into detail) that it puts it at the same level as videogames. It ony serves a narrative purpose unlike in videogames.

Darkstorn2300d ago

I admire some aspects of religion, namely the community building it brings to otherwise individualistic people, but you can't doubt that it isn't responsible for some of the most egregious mass killings in history.

Somehow religion seems to capture the worst parts of both individualism (self-interest) and collectivism (submissiveness) and morph them into a belief system. Religion of any kind simply isn't sustainable, and radicalized belief SHOULD NOT be as prevalent as it is today.

I think if scientists can research how the human brain handles superstition, we can come to a conclusion on whether or not religion is healthy, and then this timeless argument will (hopefully) be resolved.

incogneato2300d ago

This article was most likely written by an atheist to get all the teenagers on N4G riled up so they can get tons of hits.

Christopher2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

***And to the post talking about movies and books. A: Most respectable books don't have swear words in them nor do they have nudity.***

So only respectable books count? The majority of fiction novels that make the Best Sellers lists have curse words in them. The majority of them also depict and describe violent acts against others. A lot of them have at least one sex scene that is described in some detail. And, even then, I think you'd find that more than half of the top 100 English-language books have cursing in them or lewd acts described in them. Heck, you do know that The Clockwork Orange is in the top 100, right?

***B: No one goes to a movie thinking "I can't wait to see Matt Damon curse up a storm" they go thinking about how awesome the story is going to be or how thrilling the action sequences are going to be. ***

Weird, that's the exact same thing I think when buying a video game. I don't buy a game based on how much blood there is, whether or not I'll be able to murder everyone, or if I get to see some nude CGI models or anything of that sort. Neither do the people who review games, who tend to not just rate games higher because they're more violent, have more cuss words, or more nude scenes. In fact, most games that go overboard with these are typically rated much lower than others and have poor gameplay.

Darkstorn2300d ago

@1.12-
If the Bible is all about individual triumphs, then why does it focus on creating a strict doctrine to live one's life by? It seems hypocritical to sensationalize self-discovery, and then turn around and espouse a list of rules that must not be broken.

MattCielo2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

The Bible DOES talk about individual triumph, but it also talks about working together and creating a better world. The only real solid God sent rules I remember are the 10 Commandments and the Golden Rule. Both of which are not extremely restrictive and are basic rules to lead to a healthy society.

The REAL problem are the corrupt institutions built around Christianity. They make up these rules and spout out their own beliefs and try to force others to live exactly like they do. In the process they forget Jesus' own words, "Love one another, as you love yourself." This basically translates into don't treat people like sh!t and don't force things upon them that they don't want.

Note: I don't think all institutions built around the Bible are corrupt, but some of them definitely are.

Noctis Aftermath2300d ago

The reason why there aren't many christian games is because the bible has a fairly boring fictional tale, if you want a good fictional tale read LoTR or harry potter.

ShadowRyuX2300d ago

I'm not trying to suggest that games are bad or that people play them for excessive cursing etc. What I am trying to say is the excessive cursing in ALL mediums is unnecessary. In fact your counter-argument to my point "B", cgoodno, is pretty much exactly what I am getting at. Games get rated lower for having excessive amounts of these things so why can't developers learn that this stuff should be left out or at the very least tuned down?

I still play Killzone 2 and God of War III, but if they would've have eliminated the lame cursing in KZ2 it would have been more enjoyable and all the nudity in God of War sure as heck didn't make the experience a more enjoyable one and it just felt forced and cheesy.

FragGen2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Uhh... why do some Christian groups seem to think everything has to be run through some sort of Jesus filter? Why would you expect the video game industry to do anything other than create products that sell well?

What's the industry doing for Muslims? How about Hindus? Wiccans?

ShadowRyuX2300d ago

Seriously, I have never seen you ever contribute to an argument in a beneficial way. I don't see Christians here insulting atheists and even if they did then there is no need to stoop to there level, no need for you to insult Christianity by implying it is equivalent to LoTR. You are trying to rile someone up and it is simply asinine.

Christopher2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Because those games that are rated lower are because it's truly excessive and unnecessary use of them.

Just because some games rate better without those things doesn't mean games with them can't rate just as well. My example was to show that the trend of games that tend to go overboard and focus too much on these elements get rated poorly.

Rogue Warrior, DOA Paradise, and those type of games. How well do they perform? Those games go overboard in one way or another and forget that important elements of the video game. Just like many movies and novels do as well. But, there exists a lot of great movies and novels out there with very strong and well established stories and events that utilized nudity, cursing, and violence... but those are used to support the story and not just to have them in.

corneliuscrust2300d ago

ARE the triumphs. It is a triumph to successfully choose not to follow the the world and give in to its many gratuitous temptations and to dedicate your life to such a choice.

It is not easy to ignore baser instincts. And to give up your own way of life in favour of another's way requires a serious commitment... especially in the face of public ridicule and those who would be hypocritical and only do damage to that which you follow.

ShadowRyuX2300d ago

I understand that, and I know there are just a few bad apples that make the whole batch look bad, but I know that isn't the case I am just trying to make a case for more appropriate content in video games. This doesn't mean all games are about unicorns and rainbows, but that they just don't go overboard. I am an avid gamer and 75% of my collection that spans from NES to PS3/360 is rated M and 20% is T. I know that many games are capable of doing things right, I would just like to see less amazing games, like Killzone 2, be ruined by such stupid things such as language.

Solidus187-SCMilk2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Im more confused about how you have no problem with all the violence and killing in video games but are offended by bad language(I know you mention violence but the whole article is about bad words. You even say that with out the language you would not have a problem playing them). There is no commandment about Not using bad language but there sure is one about not killing people.

Do you think god would rather you play a video game simulating constant killing or one with bad language in it?

this is not a Christian/non Christian issue, its a sheltered, offended person trying to use religion to suit their own personal morals.
According to Christianity bad language is not a sin, yet you somehow try to connect the two. According to christianity murder is a sin, yet you overlook that the 'games with bad words' you complain about ALL REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE THE LIVES OF COUNTLESS PEOPLE IN THEM. Trying to sneak your own morals in on the coat-tails of religion was a nice try tho.

I think I understand why you mentioned religion in the first place. I think its because not as many people would read an article titled "Im a sheltered individual and bad words disturb me while violence doesnt: the gaming industry doesnt care about me."

EvilBlackCat2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

The problems with Video Games, Movies, TV, & commercial this day with Christianity is that today everything that sells well support SIN or is sometimes advertised with SIN.

Today what we have in games is explicit manifestations of SIN of course we can't count Sport Games and educational games on this but the Blockbuster games like GoW, Ninja Gaiden, CoD MW, BComp etc all of them have a manifestation of SIN and the most famous and used one... KILL.

@Solidus187-SCMilk
"There is no commandment about Not using bad language but there sure is one about not killing people"

well one thing that i have is that i like to read and if i remember correctly Jesus at one point teaches his disciples that cursing is wrong and is a sin but where is in the bible i really dont remember right now but i know that is there. You know what read the bible and look for it.

Anyway Fnck this I dont get offended by games that curse and killing in them because i know that ITS A GAME and i am a fncking intelligent human to notice the difference between real and video games. The only bad thing is that there is a huge of weak minded people that take this seriously and look at it like a good example for their lifes.

Seriously why do people like games like Gran Theft Auto so much? i just found them just stupid just like the movie Scarface. I like Al Pacino acting but i dont like that movie.

@MEsoJD (bellow)
"Well .... religion is responsible for some pretty gruesome events through the years"

Yes like Christians against Muslims in the medieval time but remember Jesus Christ teachings and his real disciples have nothing to do with THOSE Christians.

So remember that in the roman empire the Pagan Religion and the believe in Jesus Christ was mixed by the empire to control and conquer. Why do people blame the believe in christ and his teachings for that? is just ignorance.

mal_tez922300d ago

I don't like swearing. Boo hoo.

This is not news at all, just some whiny little bi+c# having a cry because they don't like swearing.

As for swearing in games, it's only usually in war games. I have never been in war, but I imagine that if I am getting shot at, I'm not going to say "oh fiddlesticks, I almost darn died." What I could imagine is me saying the f-word over and over.

MEsoJD2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

They can make a game about the Crusades. Maybe a game about burning witches.

(Man made God)

cLiCK_sLiCK92300d ago

I came across this a couple weeks ago. Interesting read IMO.

Topic:
"I think Square-enix is really against organized religion."

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boa...

ColdFire2300d ago

Christianity doesn't ban bad language, it does ban killing, but in CoD and KZ, it's the language that angers you? Please, think this through!

Mr_Bun2300d ago

If you are finding that a form of fictitious software is interfering with your lifestyle, maybe you should be reassessing your lifestyle.

Therealspy032300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

I think it's time, as a society, that we start treating religious ppl the same way we treat other nut jobs. we shun ppl that still think elvis is alive. we shun people who believe in hobbits, and fairies, and unicorns.

it's the same thing. i, for one, am glad the games industry doesn't cater to the whims of these borderline psychos.

@coldfire: thank you! i remember a few years ago i got banned from a "christian" counter strike server for swearing. actually...i got kicked because when the admin warned me about swearing on a christian server i said "so my language offends you, but my shooting you and all your friends in the face is cool?"

that's the other great thing about religious ppl. they lack all common sense. they don't derive their own values based on life experience...they misinterpret values handed down to them by other people who lack common sense.

EDIT: What i love about all this is that christians don't stop trying to make points. every time i read one of these i see the very obvious contradictions and lack of reason. i think it's because they are raised or conform to a set of values that is completely based on hypocrisy. they are so used to living in a world where they say and believe things that go against each other that when they try to use logic and reason with sane people, they don't even realize they're being hypocritical. it just comes naturally to them. and the rest of us sit here with our jaws hanging open wondering how they can believe this garbage they spew.

rockleex2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

God has killed MILLIONS of people, according to the Bible.

Crusaders killed people in the name of God just because those people didn't believe in the same God/religion.

Priests molest little boys and the Pope tries to keep it under wraps, says its none of our business. Yet at the same time, they don't want homosexuals to be equal like the rest of us under the law.

Yet they want to determine what is censored in games and what is not? Why do they have to meddle with every single little aspect of EVERYONE's life?

If you believe in a religion, go ahead and follow its doctrines. But don't force the REST OF US to.

Tony P2300d ago

It offends my faith that you would use words like "crap" and "piss" in your article. Please provide an alternative.

ShadowRyuX2300d ago

I'm not going to say that the Christians who are either idiots or hypocrites are right, in fact some spread some very false information because not many Christians take time to educate themselves in their faith, but I will try help enlighten you guys on the truth.

Everyone thinks killing is a sin, where do they seem to get this misunderstanding? Well it can be traced to one of the ten commandments "Thou shall not commit murder". People mistake to mean "Thou shall not kill" which is wrong. War is killing, shooting someone on the street because they won't give you their wallet is murder. Defending yourself by shooting an armed robber is not murder, it is killing. It is a fine line between killing and murder, but the line still exists.

There are many instances of both murder and killing in the bible. The murder is typically punished and the killing is typically in war.

@coldfire actually the Apostle Paul tells Christians that they shall not succumb to using foul language and swears. I don't know if that necessarily makes it a sin, but it is frowned upon.

Also war in games is SIMULATED violence I think that differs quite a lot from actual violence however the curse words are actually swears.

@rocklee The catholic church trying to protect men who proclaim to be of God, but molest children is despicable and in fact disgusts me. This is the corruption of men and this why I am not a fan of church. Any organization in which people are involve will most likely lend itself to corruption. That is all I will say about that.

Finally I would like to say I am not condemning video games, I am simply trying to point out the flaws in many arguments as well as highlight why a Christian or any person my have qualms with cursing in games. And although I'm not really offended by said swears they can be annoying at times. That is all, I am reaching the end of my bubble limit, my patience and the time I have to spend on this.

Good day and please educate yourselves on a subject before you speak on it, not saying everyone here is a moron, but many are quite misled.

HSx92300d ago

If games abuse your religion, Why the hell are you still playing them?
Honestly. Think about it.

ZombieNinjaPanda2300d ago

@ShadowRyu

This coming from an atheist, you should try reading your 'bible' some time. There are many verses where God tells his followers to murder etc etc.

Army_of_Darkness2300d ago

if I was a True hardcore christian like some families I know, I wouldn't even be allowed to play video games in the first place!!! GOW has no curse words, but it's Brutally violent, so If this guy complains about cuss words, then he better not even touch GOW3, let alone a First-Person-Shooter game!?!? WTF?! don't use your religion as your defense if your not even following it the way you should be....

yesah2300d ago

Ernice Gilbert you think your so much better then everyone because you don't curse? F*ck you.

Viper72299d ago

I consider my self as Apatheist and I see really no reason for already brutal games to have some sort of word filters or anything. I also don't see any point in providing people imaginary violence that gives them impression that no blood ever spills or no1 ever swears.

inveni02299d ago

Hmmmm...I've actually thought about this a lot: Why can't they make an interesting Christian game? The money there would be amazing (think what a Veggie Tales game would make...)

The problem is that anything interesting to play is repulsive to "Christians" (the ones that think video games ruin children's lives). If you did something even remotely cool (like an open world game where you're David, going to kill Goliath), you'd have to take liberty with the stories (like they did in GOW), and add lots of violence. Christians just aren't into that...even though the Old Testament is full of violence and sex and such (things that "God" ordained but Christians would freak out about if it were ever in a game).

Before we'll have any decent religious games, we'll need Christians to decide what they really have a problem with: Nudity or Lust, Violence or Rage, Alcohol or Addiction, etc, etc, etc.

tripewire2299d ago

<Looks at title>

God I am so f***ing sick of whinging white middle class who all seem to carry an all-consuming sense of entitlement.

Jesus would be rolling in his grave knowing what a bunch of whiney dipsh*ts he had inspired. You know... If he was still dead.

Wait... Im just reading throught the new testament... Trying to find any part where Jesus is a self-entitled whinging brat....

Coming up empty guys....

CimmerianDrake2299d ago

Ummm, they removed lyrics in a song in LittleBigPlanet for the Muslims. Which, come to think of it, actually supports this guy's argument. I guess all it takes is a group of fanatics hiding behind a religion to scare the world, thereby changing how the world responds to them, to get things that shouldn't offend anyone to be removed. Because honestly, if God (any God) is offended by words from His Holy Book being used in song, He's got a lot of time on his hands.

thorstein2299d ago

Nice insult. Meh. I care not to respond to what you call my ignorance. Had you ever studied that book you would know that god created evil (Isaiah).

I bet you are one of those bible toting morons who refuse to acknowledge the Theory of Evolution as sound scientific theory that has been proven. Your bible hasn't been able to stand the test of peer review, yet evolution has. Why is that? Could it be that all you hold dear is a giant lie? But whatever, go worship your invisible zombie god. Enjoy all the hatred that has been bred from this moronic book. You say murder is a sin? I agree. But where does that stupid book stop with the sins? Homosexuality? Eating Swine? Eating shellfish? (Leviticus) Please. "Imagine no religion." (the Book of Lennon).

The only rule found in that book is one found in all religions, including the ones predating yours: treat others the way you wish to be treated (hence, why I called you a moron because you called me one).

God murdered babies. He places babies in hell to burn for all eternity... Sounds like a great guy. And don't forget that "[He] is a jealous god and you will have no gods before him." So, even he believed in the others (Ra, Zeus, Odin, etc.) The difference between you and me is simple, I believe in one less god than you do. But don't for one second, think that the bible doesn't contain all that I said and more while at the same time censoring stories of strong women (generals et al). I would suggest NOT following the teachings of that book. However, I have yet to see any Xians actually follow in the footsteps of jesus except for the famous Mother Theresa (who was, in the end, an atheist.)

The bible is fail. Get over it.

ruiner44822299d ago

"Let’s start with the language – this one really pisses me off."

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IDvsYOU2300d ago

Uh again like clockwork, these culture-less, religion haters emerge from their holes when topics like these appear. So what's with the hate if you got brains to choose however you want to live your life?