In an interview the developers of Uncharted Drake's Fortune have stated that the game only uses about 30% of the PS3's power and upon completion of the game they will have only used about 50%.
thats good. I want to see more then.
FIRST AND FOREMOST: FLAME ON newayz good to see the ps3's power and potential finally being utilized and not those fu(kin lame @ss lazy developers who throw peices of junk out there cause they whine "the ps3 is too hard to develop for so we're gonna throw half finished garbage out there" love naughty dog. they always have quality fun @SS GAMES. now bring on the JAK
if tghey are on 30% now the'll prob reach 40 tops. i doubt they'll hit 50
Devs say that stuff all the time. Hype this, hype that. I would take everything a dev says about "incredible ______" with a grain of salt.
50% of the cell power but what going to limit the games in this generation consoles is the very LIMITED RAM not how much power they have in CPU or GPU [email protected] 2.3 the idiot BELOW ME: i know they both have the same amount of RAM and both of them have only 512MB it is limited. TOTAL PRICK. have look at number 25
360 and PS3 have the same amount of ram exsept 360 is combined and PS3 is in two so get over it PS3's teconology is better just wait till 720 then there will be compotition
RAM X360=512mb, PS3=512mb Video RAM XENOS=512mb, RSX=256mb FLOPS CEll 1.8 teraflops, xenon 1 teraflops But you must take into account the CELL does do some GPU work if you don't believe me, http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... also neither uses directX10, Both use a modified DirectX9.0L and if you still don't believe me i don't care well i can't believe you disagreed that is what is in each system, the Cell does a lot hard to explain but, what ever!
I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the RSX used a modified version of OpenGL
Can't wait to see how things look in about 2 years!
Especially Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2....GoW3.
How do they know what they are reaching if they do not know what 100% looks like? Its a guess, and a pretty shoddy one at that. On a side note this game looks SWEET! edit: lol i didnt mean to type that i was thinking about something else...
programmers have tools that gauge the system...just like your own computer can tell you how much of your resources you're actually using...It really isnt that farfetched...
This is probably true of both consoles. So you must remember that the 360 games also will improve over the years and maybe even the Wii as well. 1st year games vs 5th year games are vastly different in technological prowess.
Best prof is resident evil code veronica n resident evil 4...there is a big deference. But i also think we are gona see this a lot with PS3, because make games 4 it is not as ez as it is 4 360.. for now hopefully until programmers get used of it.
So if you're only planning on using 50% of total power, then are you a lazy dev? If you already have the tools to measure total utilization, then should the dev either add more things to ensure that he's using the most out of the console? I mean I understand if later on the cycle of the console, devs are able to learn more about the in and outs on how the hardware works, thus able to achieve more, but if you already know how much percentage your tapping, which is < 100%, shouldn't they try for more (ie: add more graphical effects in the backround or something)? Maybe I'm just not understanding....
they aren't trying for less than 100...but the program they write with the knowledge (or tips and tricks even) they have only utilizes X %...When more experience is gained on the platform, new tricks come to developers, less time is spent to get the same things done, so innovation can take place along with improvement...and a stride to using more of the resources ...You must remember a developer doesn't have infinite time and money to write one game...But things are learned each time...so less development time for the older things that were accomplished..
What I'm saying is that if you already know and have the tools that tell you total cpu utilization, then you already know how much more you have to work with. They said that they are utilizing about 30%, which means they are either talking out of their ass (guessing on the potential of what they think the PS3 is capable of) or they have a tool from Sony. I'm not knocking the game. It looks good to me and waiting to try it on my PS3.
i think youre still missing what Im saying...Writing code for a game is not as simple as saying...Ok I want better graphics there and explosions here...Hell have you ever used AutoCad or Pro E?? Those tools simplify drafting but still takes a TON of time given you have to reinvent the wheel on things and developers dont have an unlimited budget of money and time...Over time when tricks of the trade with working with the PS3 come into rotation, then new things can start happening..More resources can be put to use...Look at ps2 launch titles...then look at God of War...
you both have different points, and both are good. Naughty dog knows how much they use, according their experience. They dont have the tools to know how powerful the ps3 is, and therefore is a guess upon their experience. The power statement is a guess, however as lVlemphizStylez says they arent lazy they are still learning the hardware of the ps3... see how you two were talking about different points and yet both were valid and good?
good, i only expect it too look even better now, just kidding this game already looks amazing
... i don't like it, it just looks to common, just to give you an idea, it reminds me of "tomb rider: legends", just another adventure game. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION!. And guys, before you start attacking me, i have a ps3... and a 360.
I dont tHink is such a good game is just that there is no much to chose...i think this game is a mix of TOM RAIDER N GRAND THIEF AUTO...LOL
Im with the guys above me its ok . Not something im waiting for game dont look that great gameplay footage ive seen looks ok just ok.
Sessler, himself said this game ran flawlessly...without ever letting go of you. He said the action is non-stop...and it keeps you going and hunting. This game will blow us all away, I'm sure. These guys reinvent the genre every generation! According to Insomniac and Capcom, however...you really can't tell how capable the PS3 is. It was the same way with the previous Playstations. They don't have ceilings...so right now...there ARE no boundaries.
Appple, Linux, and pretty much anything German engineered also proves this aspect.
It was called the XBOX, and the PS2 kept bumping it's head on the XBOX's ass, trying to keep up. :o
If all of the playstations had so much untapped potential, then why should we expect that to change with the ps3 with it being even more advanced? We hear a whole lot about power and even how much potential playstations had, but if that potential is never realized, then it doesnt matter if the ps3 have a "Flux Capacitor" the full power will never be used, just like it wasnt with the original xbox. So in that case, this generation it is not even wise to judge consoles by their potential, but by each game they release.
When are the developers for the PS3 going to stop saying were barely using all of the systems power. If they were then why don't they use it. They're the ones who repeat it over and over while Developers for the Xbox 360 have only said it a couple times but then pushed there game even further for the release date. In no way am I taking side since I no longer own both anymore, but it's time for the developers to shut the h*** up and actually do what they say it can do.
well, this is their first title on the ps3. the 360 doesnt use all of its power and its in the second year. I mean come on, they need to put out a game. they developed many tools on their own, worked really hard and now its time to put the game out; even if it doesnt use 100% of a console.
IDK why you gotta say BS to developers, they make games for a living, so they know more than you...
even tho this news dont affect me at all, this is fake, I can belive this game takes a lot of disk space but 30% of ps3's power is pure bull noise. What? they have a termometor that saids how much of the power you using? ya right, if this was true all games would of be nice like splinter cell DA was crap for the ps3 so that means they used what? 10% I believe and Is a fact games can get twice maybe 3 times better then now after a few years of development, look at God of War2, better looking then any game on ps2 3 years b4, but a dev tellin me how much power he using thats pure crap, if he made the game better then crysis since he got 50% left I may believe it, for now show some proof.
hit CTRL ALT DELETE on your computer...Bring up task manager...Click Performance tab...If your windows desktop computer can tell you these things, what really makes you think a developer doesnt have these tools for a platform that they work with for a living??
A computer knows its own limits because they have been reached. But you are not going to tell me that there is a software out there that has taken full advantage of the ps3. Since the ps3's maximum power hasn't been reached yet, the limits are still unknown, therefore it's impossible to tell how much power of the console is being used. All they did was just guess. For instance, i can guess that Gears of War takes about 40% to 55% of the 360's total capabilities. Ps: I really hope you could add a reply to a reply. ;P
Even if he lied or speaking the truth. OFc they have a system that tells how much power the ps3 is useing. cant belive ppl dont know this. they use compueters to check how much powers,cpu,ram, Heat they are useing on that game that way they sees how much power% they are useing on each game. IM shocked that ppl dont think they have that oO
That maybe their code only requires them to utilize the PPC cores and like 2 SPE's and that's how they know how much of the processing power their going to be using huh? Gosh that would make A LOT OF SENSE WOULDN'T IT?? LOL @ people who like to talk like they know what their talking about.
Im tryin to find the game the said the samething about using only few power off 360 turn out to be a complete lie, I cuould be wrong but i thnk is unreal tournoment if anyone know the game they said same thing can u plz post it here
I THINK IT WOULD BE ANY GAMERS DREAM THAT drakes fortune WOULD ONLY BE 40%% OF THE SPEED OF THE PS3. THATS GREAT!!! EVEN MASS EFECT LIKE 40%%% OF THE MAX SPEED of the 360 (GREAT) LETS SEE SOME AWESOME graphics and money spent on these games. GAMES EVERYONE NOT CONSOLES (GAMES WHO CARES FANBOYS) GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!! KILLZONE, HALO 3, MASS EFFECT, HEAVENLY SWORD, LAIR, BIOSHOCK, ASSASSSINS CREED..... LET GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BABY
ps3forums + sony devs + sony= will overpromise & UNderdeliver as usual= JOY
The same "just you wait" arguments again and again. Lots of barking, no biting. As long as the games don't look any better than the ones on the 360 I can't take their statements seriously. Same logic as my statement below...
You just got owned. And the ps3. THE PS3 is starting to kick the ass off the xbox 80 oops 180 no wait 80. yepp Blu-ray wins, PS3 starting to use its true power, Killzone 2 looks amazing. I wonder. Enjoy your 80's so called power and over heating (all the time) because you will lose and i. I WILL take a drink and SAY PS3 JUST OWNED YOUR ASS. Joy.
I raelly hope they can pull that off and not turn out to be a dissapointment like killz... i wont continue because it make me sad they cal CGI gameplay.
Killzone 2 What?? you haven even seen it yet. Just w8 to E3 Before you start bashing the game dude.. i belive it will looks Awesome!
When I have sex I only use 40% of my penis size. It's actually a lot bigger than it looks... macalatus - Boy you took it personal. Where is your sense of humor? Come back when you are old enough to interpret analogies.
Good Point =P
And the full size of your schlong is probably the equivalent of a...AAA battery. So yeah, 40% of that size truly impresses the ladies...
I guess if I can only fit the head in, then I'm only using 10% of mine. Anyways, the ps3 and xbox 360 are mediums for developers, much like a canvas is to an artist. The value of a Picasso versus a finger painting done by a retard both on a canvas emphasizes the artist being the difference between a work of art through hard work based on that artist's ability. Personally, I'd rather have a Picasso hanging in my living room rather than a picture of a stickman painted by JellyBean, the wondertard.
you alright man? you seem a little frustrated.
Dude, I knew what the hell you were talking about, and certainly knew that it was just "a humor". The analogy seems to be, a little too much, and just begging (I mean SERIOUSLY) to be sarcastically satirized. Hence, my post. But still, I'll admit that even I myself went a little too far in my reply. LOL @ dimwitted, You didn't get my joke either, bud, so I still get the last laugh! You got a perfect screen name (fits exactly you), though.
a joke isn't good if only you get it and have to write an essay afterwards explaining how it was supposed to be funny. last laugh.
i cant wait till they have the end results!! its goin to be amazin..but i doubt they will be able to 50 percent..because there will always be more power in the ps3..uncharted is goin to kick butt and take name..so will heavenly sword..
Can't stop laughing. Wii is using a small percentage of its power and will use 50% to 60 % of its power 2 1/2 years from now lol, that goes for any other console hahahaha.
Well that is my xbox 360 out powered. so 50% hmm that must be 1 xbox 360 to ps3 X box is f++ked all i can say Killzone is to use 65% /70% and kill any game that will hit 360 in power or % bye bye X box u have been pissed on
30 - 50% of the ps3 power max for any game, rest is required for the system, including the O/S.
Don't confuse potential with resources. Mentioning the windows task manager, you can clearly see that some badly coded software might end up using quite a lot of the system resources while not really accomplishing anything that great. Potential in this case, should rather be seen as the possibilities of using these resources most efficiently. In short, it's not the amount of system resources used, but the most efficient way to use them that is the key here. And this can not be done yet, as some have pointed out.
They need to show more. I'm not saying Gears or BioSHOCK are better because I have not had a chance to play Uncharted but so far Gears and Boishock are both still much more impressive IMO. Maybe at E3.
"According to Insomniac and Capcom, however...you really can't tell how capable the PS3 is. It was the same way with the previous Playstations. They don't have ceilings...so right now...there ARE no boundaries." That comment makes no sense cus of course they knew the boundaries of the first ps cuz n64 looked better at everything and xbox version always looked better than aps2 version of a game if the systems had no boundaries they would have been better in graphics etc and beat the competition at other things.................well other than sale #s
Because Uncharted already looks like a CG.. just wow. And 30-50% of cell potential.. wait for Team Ico games.. the will be ULTRA AWESOME! p.s. anyone to help return my 4th bubble back? thnx. =)
are both next gen systems with great cpu and gpu,the problem is they dont have enough RAM to run at 60 fps without dumping down the graphics.Uncharted Drakes is a beautiful game but it will never run 60fps without dumping down the graphics.These are nextgen systems every game should run at 60fps.The ps2 and the xbox1 ran games at 30fps with good graphics,so why are we still seeing 30fps games on the PS3 and the XBOX360 because they dont have enough RAM to run 60fps without dumping down the graphics.
earlier but i lost bubbles and get 4 dissagrees.i am glad someone understand. TOTAL RESPECTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Tomb Raider is one of my fav franchises but drakes looks like a ps2 game, they don't need to be braging about using 50% of the ps3 power, they need to be using 100% b/c this game needs help. The way it is now, it will fail. They better delay it like all the others have and put more time into it. But yes, being that I love this type of platform, I'd still buy it if I was a ps3 fan. I hope if Eidos does another Tomb Raider game that they'll strickly design it for the next gen. systems and not last gen. like last time. It was fun but still not next gen., same with drakes fortune.
games that to be released soon are 2nd generation...they are really amazing I wonder what 3rd generation games can do....damn, i am already waiting for them
Looks good is because there using Unreal Engine 3 so thats not even the real power of the XBox 360 when the PS3 can do the same by using Unreal Engine 3.
50% and yet Mass Effect has more eye candy than this! It does look sweet though, i cant wait to get my hands on this game!
Says you, for some reason you've been running around here saying that the games only look good because of the Unreal Engine an not the power of the xbox 360!! MAN HOW STUPID DO YOU SOUND!! the 360 runs the Unreal Engine, the game is made running the Unreal Engine, so how is that not the power of the 360. what are you like 5 years old or something!! you sure type like it!! no pronunciation, not making any sense. Now if your mentally retarded then I'm sorry but if your not then GET A LIFE AN A ENGLISH TEACHER!!
chill out everybody and just play games
is a beautiful game,last year at E3 they showed the dragon landing on a bridge having a ground battle with a lot of soldiers the graphics was beautiful but the framerate was very bad.Now that the game is almost finished and the framerate is complete,go look at videos of last year E3 and compare them with the videos that is out now you will see that the ground battle graphics had to be dumped down just to get the framerate to 30fps.The PS3 power stops when the RAM runs out,but on a PC you can add RAM to fix framerate and graphic problems.
gateway, 4096mb's of RAM(4gigs), and my video cards, two GeForce 8800's 1536mb's of video ram(1.5gigs), my computer is a gaming machine!
32.1 - gateway, 4096mb's of RAM(4gigs), and my video cards, two GeForce 8800's 1536mb's of video ram(1.5gigs), my computer is a gaming machine! I was always wondering how much a good gaming PC will coast.not high end but one that will run games smoothly.i think i could use some help from you if you do not mind.pleaseeeeeeee.
I want to know how they determine how much of the processing power they're using. If they're still trying to "unlock" the power, how do they know there's not more or less than they believe? Is this "processing power" theoretical? Furthermore, why create a game that only uses half the power? If they know they could take it a step further, why not go for it? Regardless, this game should kick @ss.
Dual Flux Homdualator And the Hyperdrive Capacitator OOOO AND DON'T FORGET THE PHOTON Torpedo BAY All of those are seriously being under utilized !!!! We all know that developers get better over time, I can't wait for the games coming up this fall! I don't even want to think about the games for next year. Crap, I'm gonna be broke