The PlayStation needs to be on its side to avoid overheating. The PlayStation 2 won't read blue-bottom discs. The PSP suffers from dead pixels and unresponsive square buttons. The PlayStation 3 fails to...
but i got to say in the 360 3 year warranty thread people were talking allot of smack and all i could think was ..
i never got a check from Sony for the 3 ps1's and 2 ps2's i had to get repaired.
if you want a check go buy a pair of nikes
people are complaining about M$ because the hardware failure is so high. Every electronic device has 3-5 percent failure rate at launch, 360 has 25-30 percent which is extremely high. They launch the 360 early to gain a year on Sony and now they're going to lose alot more because of it. PS3 is not going anywhere, so people talking about PS3 being dead is plain stupid.
When microsoft release original details about the 360, Bill gates himself said it will have an HDDVD drive, every system will have a harddrive and I was find with that even if it would release at $500 but better features and hardware quality. Hell i even paid $550 for my premium so what that tells
I got a PS1 at launch and it still works perfectly. I got a PS2 at launch and it still works perfectly. I got a PSP at launch and it still works perfectly. I got a PS3 at launch and no problems to date(not that this article is saying that i should be having problems, just making a note of it). Am I just lucky or are there others with no problems from sony?
you are not the only one, My PS1 still works, my ps2 still works and both my psps still work although one has the screen shattered because I dropped it in a crow bar :P
same here buddy :)
Same here, never had a problem with PS1 (and that console even got stepped on and thrown once), never had a problem with PS2, or PSP. My PS3 is in a confined area and it's still going strong.
You're far from alone. Remember there were over 100million psone's and over 120million ps2 sold in their lifetime. With that kind of market share, you're bound to find a few that have problems, but in Sony case it was still a miniscule percentage of the total amount of consoles out there.
I'm in the same boat as you, ps1: perfect. Ps2, perfect. PSP, perfect. Ps3, perfect. Hell, my PS3 has only ever crashed once, and I wouldn't call it a crash if there was a powercut :)
My 360 however... well all three of them now have gone the same way, ring of death. In the process of getting my fourth sent to me as I type this. There's 10.5 Million 360's in the wild, 2.5 million of those are replacements.
same here...but nearly perfect! My old, first gen PS1 still works (though CD drive mechanisms are a bit worn out after years of use), the PS2 (a "first day launch" PS2 BTW but had it repaired only once for FREE by Sony). My PS3 is still rockin' except for that occasional, annoying BT headset dropouts (hint: avoid Motorola H350 BT headsets like a plague!). Still, all of my three PS generation consoles work fine.
I only had to replace the laser in my PS2 once. PS1 still works.
i never had a problem with any of my sony consoles and i never heard of any of my mates having any problems. the 360 on the other hand, i hear about the problems they have with theres all the time. when i had a 360 the damn thing kept freezin on me. what is suprising is how they have had little bad press over it. it seems like everybody is against the ps3 this gen. if ps3 had the same problems has the 360 i kno they would of been sent to hell for it by the press. the press on generally have to stop being biased.
Sony batteries and car Stereo's and more. Its a wonder how they get away with it how its alright when they make crap products all the time. Its ok for Sony fanboys to talk sh*t about MS ignoring Sony's sh*t is crap but when MS's stuff is crap they go ape sh*t.
CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!!! How long will PS3 last before the CRAP breaks with people already having disc loader problems plus the drive is used to play Too many movies and games it also has a sh*tty warrenty. The 360 crap box has the best warrenty incase of crap hardware
while the PS3 warrenty will expire just before Sony's hardware turns crap.
#3.1 never had a broken 360 with RROD the red rings do not mean the 360 is broken they have several meanings besides harware issues.
dont be mad because you had 2 send your 360 back twice
Sony has a three year warranty dude, yeah it's not free but i bought it. Plus not everybody has the extra three year MS warranty only people with previous problems with their X-box so 67% of people don't have that warranty, want to argue numbers okay lets say the x-box failure rate is 20% the 80% of owners don't have that warranty. PLus shut up you know the ps3 wont die.
Once they actually start using their ps3s we'll see what the failure rate will be. It might not be as high as 360 but there will bound to be issues. Let few games come to ps3 and let them dust off the console and start playing games.
Yeah I've heard that from you at least three times now. How about this, Once I'm Done Watching blu-ray movies, playing games, using Linux (which works awesome and i completely recommend to everybody) , listing to music, and Folding at Home All of which i done most days, I'll tell you how well my ps3's doing and if it seems like it gonna break.
Your comment says that the 360 has the best hardware in case of crap hardware. Funny, I thought M$ just increased the warranty time period BECAUSE of crap hardware. Hmmmmmmmm.....
I have an launch Xbox and it still works perfectly
I have a close to launch 360 and it still works with no RROD.
#2 whats your point? millions can say that about the Xbox consoles. This does not mean people dont get the RROD or that PS2 owners were not taking their PS2's apart because Sony would not fix them or people gave up after they kept breaking.
I'v seen PS2's that no longer looked like PS2's the probelam was so bad the average consumer became a PS2 techie and rigged them to work "sometimes".
There was also a huge batch of defective PS3's that lauched in some small asian country awhile back and Sony covered it up fast not to mention there are reports of the disc loader failures on the PS3 already.
You enjoy pulling bull$hit out of your a$$?
I heard about that incident. I think it was in small Asian country and the biggest problem was in its capitol city, Raccoon City. I'm pretty sure Sony was able to cover up the incident by sending the dreaded elite SDF to exterminate the survivors and then proceeded to nuke the entire city. I mean, come on, just because of a couple defective PS3s? I too thought it was a little overboard.
Dear POG, I hope you don't mind I dissect your "arguments" and reveal the fallacies found within them.
1. ARGUMENT: I'v seen PS2's that no longer looked like PS2's the probelam was so bad the average consumer became a PS2 techie and rigged them to work "sometimes".
FALLACY: "I've" is the keyword here. It means that you've made a
conclusion based on very (and I mean "very")small samples gathered by your very (once again, "very") informal, personal observation. That means you chose to declare something that you only wanted to see.
2. ARGUMENT: There was also a huge batch of defective PS3's that lauched in some small asian country awhile back and Sony covered it up fast not to mention there are reports of the disc loader failures on the PS3 already.
FALLACY: A very contradictory argument for one reason. For a company that is well-known in the media for "failures", the fact that this story somehow "escaped" the media's attention is a little bit strange. Also, if Sony managed to cover it up, how in the devil's name did this story leak out (hint: show us a RELIABLE source)? Since you named the alleged "victim" country as just "some small Asian country", this strongly points to either you made this story up or you got this from a rather unreliable source.
Easy there fella, please remember POG (by his own words) is very rarely wrong!
I'm a Sony fan but this article is just flame bait. We have already seen the articles about less then 1% failure rate, ect ect... so I think this shouldnt get put through. And my ps1 and ps2 also still have no problems crazymad59, but mine werent launch consoles. But problems do exist. Some people just don't believe it till it happens to them but it happend with the ps1, ps2, 360, ect.
Theres no such thing of a method of figuring out %-ages from two different store managers comming up with a 1% failure rate or a 33% one lol.
You call it flame yet all you Sony fans are doing is finding RROD stories to post not owning a 360(most fans should be happier than they were before we knew there was a problem, warrenty wise, not frustration of waiting and going through this BS) for the purpose or bashing and trying to piss people off.
Which is very true. Just sayign we've seen all the articles and this is just another one to fuel the flame war.
are contantly saying all you sony fans. that forum stereotype does not apply to everyone. i find it insulting that you say that cause it's just not true
sonys (so far) great ps3 hardware should be recognized, i agree that this article should not have mentioned any other system in it cuz that does start flame warz which ruins the whole point that sony finally made a great peice of hardware
Every electronic device breaks, just not like the 360...
Come on, 30% failure rate....
Hey Microsoft how much will you pay if I write that PS3 tastes like a piece of sh!t! =)
Or that it has a stinky odor!
Or that all of my BR disks got rotten =)
Is thare a price-list for articles like that? PLz - inform me =)
The idiot who wrote this article didn't realize that most playstation gamers still have their ps1, ps2 from launch and I admit that the psp only problem is the dead pixle, and you woundln't notice it when playing games or using it, you only see it when you stare at a black screen, and who buy a psp to stare a the black screen?... and this is my frist time hearing the ps2 wont read blue disc bottom...
it's funny only now I hear about all the problems, I have my original playstation, playstation 2 (from 2001), psp, and ps3 only problems mentioned in the article is 1 dead pixel on the psp which I never see lol
Still have my launch Ps2, don't know anyone who had the Ps2 die.
My launch xbox scratched discs, froze and eventually died.
My TV's have always been Sony and never had any problems. My ps3 runs for weeks on end.....no problems.
Microsoft make cheap hardware. That's a fact. 360's are dropping like flies.
All this BS about ps1 and ps2 problems are not from the real world. I still have em all. Everybody I know still has theirs.
Anyone that would buy hardware with that hight % of defects need their head examined. The smart consumer would totally stay away from crappy hardware like that. I do have my launch ps2 still and works fine just have to clean the eye every couple years which probably 75% of people never did.
There hasn't been any official failure rates listed for the 360 (I assume you are referring to the 360 in your comments) I don't know where the hell this %33 came from?? It's made up FUD and you bite into the BS hook, line and sinker.. 360 can get fixed ignorance is a bit tougher to deal with..
Well I'm still on my first Xbox1 and my first Xbox 360 never had a problem with either. So like many of you saying they've never had a problem with their PS2 or PS1 and find this article flamebait and ridiculous you can imagine how I feel when I see a 150+ comment threads about how the 360 is junk hardware.
wat i never new hell froze over. but i do know this though the 360 do freeze over quite a lot these days;)
I have never heard someting like "You are lucky with your PS/PS2/PSP/PS3 - it works!"
It's outlived two PCs, and even my mom's car. That's just ridiculous, haha. It is true though. Sony really went out of their way to make a flawless piece of hardware this time (though I've never heard of anything wrong with the PSP). PS1 did have overheating issues though, and the PS2 used relatively cheap DVD drives ($80 at the time) which led to CD's not being read by some units.
With PS3, Sony bought the highest quality parts for every part of the system, and it shows.
ps1/ps2/ps3/psp/ds/ngc all work fine gcn especially as i have only used it once in 5 years
Most ps1's that broke, because of the laser, were actually due to piracy.
Reason i know, is because aload of friends used to buy pirated discs.
I don't have one anymore(I gave it too a nephew)
I never had a problem with mine.
But my friends did, They used to go on about, you use the disc that came with ps1, then you remove that and put the copy in, and it worked.
But it seemed to put the laser under pressure, and refocus etc, and u could see the laser going nuts looking for the disc, when u keep doing this, wear and tear, things happen, For those of you who know, and those that don't, It was called the swap technic, Before chipping a ps1 was the way to go.
That was lesson 1 for Today!!:)
is a good deal for me. I own both the PS3 n the 360, n both are working fine. I hope my 360 keeps working till i get my hands on HALO3. My PS3 is working fine too, it doesn't make any noise at all, that's a good thing about the PS3, but it's a machine, so it could have problem in the near future "hope not".
for previous systems but not console life threatening for me... my ps2 didnt play cd-rewrittables good though =)
ps1, ps2 didnt break any where near the level of the 360. I mean with its loud fan you would expect it to have better cooling than the ps3 but unfortunately its design was flawed. The ps3 is a great console and so is the 360. Personally i prefer the playstation because i have jst always gone with sony when it came to gaming. I was lucky enough to get into warhawk beta so the lack of games didnt really hit me like it hit most because that game was freakin awesome and basically sustained me. The games for the ps3 might not be out but they will be there sooner or later and i keep my xbox jst in case of them tripple a titles that might hit
Leave it on for 30 days straight. Do not ever turn it off. Play Gears of War or whatever game you play. Play some movies whatever...and tell me if it survives..
My Ps3 was a launch PS3. I have had NO issues. I have been [email protected]
I have a wii but i never play it...but it is also solid in the hardware.
I have a Xbox 360 for over a year...i hardly ever play it for fear of it breaking...but I do get me some Gears of War sessions, at about 3 hours a peace. I have never had any issues...but i would never leave it on 24/7 like my PS3 or Wii.
Lets get real, the Xbox 360 hardware is a piece of crap...how can you think otherwise? Microsoft said it and they have increased the warranty to 3 years.. This is good...but why come they did not just redesigned the Xbox 360 hardware to be problem free when they came out with the Elite model? That reason alone is why you can not trust microsoft to design hardware. Microsoft is a software company not a hardware company. Sony is more of a hardware company than a software company. Apple is both.
I am just saying Xbox 360 owners you have to get your head out of the sand and realize that yeah the Xbox 360 software is good, but the hardware is a piece of crap. Once sony gets PS3 games out there (and the wii has no games either) then..its all over for the Xbox 360...it will never win this next gen war....but I am ok with that. As long as i can play Halo 3 (it better be good) and Gears of War 2...I am ok with this.
All other good stuff I will get on my reliable rugged PS3!
My wii, i am just waiting for that killer app for me to turn it back on.
By the way i dust all my systems everyday. They ghoes to look fresh and clean!
Peace to all fanboys!
I for once, have never had any problems with any of my Sony products. Not one. >>; I guess it just depends the customer.
Remember before before PS3 was even out. A couple of dev units locked in a plastic case froze during playing a 12 loop of demos, and the haters lined up for 6 months to tell us all for our own good, how PS3 was unreliable hardware and would freeze, or even catch fire and was only a matter of time before your house burnt down because of it. Well none of that has happened.
Remember when it was first announced that the batteries for the controller would be built in? All the haters lined up to tell us that batteries would either expode or fail and we would have to buy new ones every time it happened. Do you know how much I spend on batteries for the Xbox controller a year? Well honestly, its not that much, but it is an expense. Actually the worst thing is,do you know how annoying it is to be playing a game and the conntroller just drops out and you have know other batteries? Most of my remotes take Triple A's so I'm out of luck their. You need to keep a stockpile handy. For the record, I have 2 Sixaxis's. One stays on charge and I use the other and swap them about once a week. Neither have ever been flat since I got them. Its a good system.
I could go on and on about negative things that have been said about PS3 both before and after launch and most of it was just scare mongering and rediculous fanboy talk.
For all the talk I keep hearing how Sony "Lies" all the time, some of you guys have told some whoppers yourselves. Most of Sonys have been simple PR talk (advertising) and a case of shooting for the stars and maybe not quite reaching them. Hey then did promise 3 brilliant consoles and as far as I'm concerned they've delivered 3 times. Isnt that whats important. You'd think you could let a couple of the other things slide.
Congrates Sony for building a machine that I'll still be playing over 5 years from now and has about as much chance breaking as I do getting struck by lightening, inside.
as of now, the PS3 is really doing well as far a failure reports on the internet. Leaving the 360 out of it, and looking at just the PS0ne and PS2 problems at launch the PS3 is next to perfect in that regard. However the PS3 hasn't been out that long so the unit longevity has yet been tested but as it looks right now the PS3 is a solid piece of hardware. Hats off.
just a day after revealed the defective 360 for over 30%, for other xbots that can't accept the fact trying to catch up with the news. That's so lame.
My pS2 is still working like horse, my xbox got redring already (a month ago) I thought it only applied to 360.
Seems like MS design the casing of xboxs with the ring button for a purpose. oh it's green (phew~ I'm safe) oh NO!!!! it's red!! damn MS~
Oh btw, my 360 got redlight first.
I wonder where is the wrong light of PS2 and PS3? I know for sure, when PS3 overheated. it will mentioned on your screen. not just hang and give you a question to yourself about the meaning of red light ring.
But I never see the over heat screen myself until now.
face the fact that MS hardwares is crap, even the OS also not reliable.
Sony is not the best either, but is not as worse as MS.
luckily they were only $50 each.... thankfully that my ps3 is such a fine piece of hardware cuz i cant afford it this gen.
Only problems I have had with the ps3 is getting the better half away from it lol. If anyone has any suggestions please forward them, lol
and was used as much as 360 gamers put into their 360, you'd see more PS3 probloems. Simple as that!
360 users are getting hundreds of thousands of hours put into their console per week while PS3 users smile at their shiny big grill...i meant poo-ray player and then turn the tv on to watch some cable.
I can and have left my 360 on overnite/all day on many occassions...why can't PS3 users do that? Hear that siren??
@31.1: Kool. At least it was a reasonable disagree - and not a disagree to me posting "lol" or something, which seems to go on a lot around here.
I still think someone needs to put the consoles to a test (as accurately as possible) to prove me wrong but your disagreement is acceptible.
Have to disagree with you because I log some long hours online with motorstorm, resistance, and R6:Vagas. So PS3 owners can play for some extended periods of time with no problems. Not to mention folding puts some serious strain on the system, and people leave it on for days on end doing that and have yet to have problems.
is that the best you can do xbugs???
Lies all lies!!!
ps1-worked great for about 5 years.then had to put it on it's side.it made garbled sounds.if i squeezed it on the right side(yeah,squeezed it),it would go away.but still works to this day.controllers still work.no warranty
ps2-worked great up until i started booting macross(awsome japanese game from AM2)with magic CD.had to open it up and clean it.still works after 5 years loading both cd and dvd.controllers still work.no warranty.
ps3-owned since launch in november.works great.locks up sometimes on websites.it will continue loading something that makes me have to back out the web browser altogether.then reload.no game has locked up or movie.ever.
psp-works great.1.5 to this day.bought hot shots,ridge racer,dead to rights and lumines then stopped.love homebrew(there's almost nothing you can't do with this machine).won't touch umd games or download umd games.it had three dead pixels,but not where it would matter.all buttons work great.that's over 2 years.no warranty.
that speaks of QUALITY that it will last without a warranty.even though they give you one.it speaks of QUALITY that i used to play my ps1 on the carpet(never do this)and it still works.it speaks of QUALITY that my ps2 still works after using magic CD.it speaks of QUALITY that my psp still works great after dropping it on carpet,squeezing it under my car seat,and booting homebrew.
sony fans,playstation fans,they think by posting this article,it will make everyone forget that microsoft released a faulty system on the market,dodged the fact RROD occured,blamed the user,then put a band-aid on it with a 3 year warranty.goo games don't hide the fact that the system is prone to break and that a longtime repairer of systems,micromart,refuses to fix the xbox 360 because it's endempic(look it up).
sony makes great hardware,has issues that fall within the industry norm,and gives you more bang for the buck than the competition.the competition revised the unit with "elite",but didn't make hd-dvd standard,didn't add wifi,didn't add the latest 1.3 hdmi standard,didn't add card readers,still has poor backwards compatability,and didn't even add a BUILT IN reachargeable battery after seeing sony do it.
so we, as sony fans,don't care about this article.we know sony makes great hardware.microsoft does not.
can't wait for E3.hit me up with some bubbles.
EDIT:disagree all you want fools.but:
100 million ps1s sold
115 million and rising ps2s sold
25 million psps and going sold AND
4 million ps3s so far means sony isn't going anywhere.the fans,the casual,the public have spoken on who's system is better made.while the other abandoned xbox at 24 million,lied about 10 million sold to gamers,reduced projections from 13-15 million to 12 by june,but FAILED and only SHIPPED 11.6 million and has to cover a faulty system for 3 years because lawsuits were just around the corner.
you can hide from the truth by ignoring me,try to stop the truth by taking bubbles,but i won't stop speaking the truth that sony BRINGS IT and has already BROUGHT IT(love jamie pressly)
Here is a bubble.
My PS2 stopped working 4 months after I got it. My PS1 wouldn't play FMV unless it was upside down because overheating issues caused the CD drive assembly to warp.
I don't know why people are busting the 360 for quality issues. It took Sony 3 generations to get it together.
The problem with the blue PS2 cds wasn't with the PS2 hardware, it was a fault in the design of the cds themselves. If you compare the blue cds to regular dvd cds, you'll notice there's a ridge or step/bump on the bottomside of the inside ring. Meanwhile on a regular dvd cd, there is no step or bump. This problem is very very easily remedied by putting a ring of masking tape in the shape of a ring near said ridge, so that the cd is perfectly level. No more grinding/load errors ever again.
no console is perfect.
PS3 is ;)
The Atari Jaguar is
Playstations are the most unreliable system. I remember when I had my PS1 and I would leave to go to work, I would say "Playstation don't you sit around here and do nothing all day. When I come home I want some dishes clean and some laundry done." ANNNNDDD guess what? It would not do a damn thing I told it. Now thats unreliable.
well the ps3 always stays cool, and the fact is people its got a fan and it doesent make any noise so whats the problem, and also the 360 is loud hot and no has no fan, so the 360 problems are bound to happen, ive had the ps3 since launch (craziest $hit ive done waiting in line for 2 days) and it works perfect and has no freezing issues....................
but know cares to look at it from that point of view
plain and simple sony makes quality sound electronics and cares abouts its consumers
thePS3 is a beast. and not even theMART can say anything against it.
my 360 looks and sounds like a ... don't know what.
the ps3 just looks slick and sexy and it's quiet, too.
i love them all - but i love me some ps3 more ;-)
I got scared hearin of all the Xbox360's crashin that i held off on buyin a PS3. I kept a keen ear out for faults and hardware crashes, then when i felt comfortable enough that the hardware was dependable i bought mine in April.
You see the thing is i live in Jamaica and the moment i take my console here the Warranty is void. So rather than chance it with a console with a high failure rate i waited. Am happy to say my PS3 has run like a dream ever since i hooked it up. It'a an amazin piece of hardware and keeps gettin better with firmware updates. I own a few games with many more on my to own list. The PS3 is a true testiment to Japanese engineering.
Sony does need to solidify their software lineup, but the hardware is top quality.