During their PAX East 2010 panel, Visceral Games discussed the possibility of adding 3D support to Dead Space 2. They also seemingly confirmed a PC version of the upcoming horror game.
3D is really starting to come into its own. It would seem however, that PS3 will be the only beneficiary.
I believe PC has been running 3D for a while I believe, so the PC and PS3 version would benefit from this but most likely not effect the majority of players. It's framerate which does it for me... so if I had a decent PC I'd buy the PC version. I probably won't buy this game, I could never play scary games for more than Half and hour even at night. I even have to stop in parts of Resistance fall of man.
Yeah it's not just the PS3, I saw a bunch of PC 3D demo's a long time ago with Arkham Asylum being the highlight XD
PC 3D is a lot more affordable. I saw the 3D TV's being unveiled at Best Buy yesterday and tried out the demo with Monsters vs Aliens. $4000 for the TV, two pairs of glasses, Bluray player and the Monsters vs Aliens movie. The Nvidia 3D Vision kit is only $600 for the 120 Hz monitor and glasses. Plus you get to play your games in true stereoscopic 3D, and not that pseudo 3D the 3D TV's can use for 2D content.
Maybe I'm dumb... probably. But how is 3D on the PS3 going to work? Do you need a 3D capable TV? If so, feck! B/C I bought a new LED TV a few months ago, which is awesome, but can I not do 3D?
I feel 3D is like the online of last generation, sure it was their but it didn't come to blossom. In theory it probably doesn't take much to make a 3D game or so I'd imagine... just the power isn't their plus we are fairly far into this generation for developers to throw enough at 3D gaming, many of who'm are doing it just to give their guys some experience before the next generation fully brings it out, for ALL games. That's my opinion atleast. Personally I'm ok with this generation, probably the best of all time. Just look -Motion controllers -Downloadable content -Online -HD -Multimedia Now all we need are so elements to be adapted and improved further, I don't think the next generation will be as big. -Motion controllers with accuracy -Downloadable content with cloud -Online accross platforms -HD, 1080p at 60FPS -Multimedia 1TB+ with a full OS. The next generation won't add much new but will improve on stuff such as 3D. 'Maybe I'm dumb... probably. But how is 3D on the PS3 going to work? Do you need a 3D capable TV? If so, feck! B/C I bought a new LED TV a few months ago, which is awesome, but can I not do 3D? ' Ok, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe so long as your LED TV RUNS at either 120Hz or 200Hz you should be fine, you'd need to buy something extra. This how it believes it works. We have two eyes, in real life we see two seperate images which our brain then puts those two images together into one image and thus 3D or something. Now with video games you only see one image which the console outputs. With 3D gaming the console outputs two images. The TV can only display one images, so the console outputs two images in quic succession hense why you need the 120 Hz thing. It's still not over mind you, there's ONE final step, the brain and eye can see things above 200Hz so you will stil two images hence why without special glasses you see blurry lines. These glasses then delay one images so you see both images at the same time, fixing the problem. The glasses kit will set you back less than $100 apparently which isn't too bad considering that's less than a GH... Rock band or two games.
@1.4 There will be an firmware update for your ps3 but yes you will need a new TV, one that supports 3D @1.5 ''I don't think the next generation will be as big.'' People always say that and they always bring new things. As for me, I think 3D will be awesome even if it gets a slow start, people will see the benefit
Bring it On, 3D Gaming will Be So Awesome, I'll buy a Huge 3D Ready HDTV and when the PS3 FW come out, also I want to buy the Nvidia 3D Vision, after playing a Couple of minutes of B:AA with the 3D kit, I can only tell that is EPIC
There will be monitors that double up for pc and ps3 3d gaming which i reckon will be the route most of us poor gamers will take, those tv's your seeing @$4000 are first to market so the mark up is huge to cater to the wealthy got to have everything straight away crowd, all that matters is that in the next 18 months 3d technology in tv's at mid range becomes standard and seeing as sony, samsung and matsushita control the market it will do. Its simply just 720p to 1080p to 3dtv its the evolution of hdtv.
EA is selling a PC version of Dead Space 2 in their store so I think it's confirmed.
Looking forward to it.
3D for consoles won't take off until the next round of consoles. The cost is just too high. SOmeone on this site, i can't remember who stated INCORRECTLY that the new 3D HDTV's would cost the same as the current HDTV's out now. How wrong that was. A 40" 3D HDTV will set you back almost $3000 and that does not include even one pair of glasses. You can buy a LCD HDTV 42" for $800+ now...LED version for $1200. The glasses in itself are $250 EACH! Then you have to buy the special 3D HDMI cable. That Blu-Ray player you bought yesterday...and I do mean YESTERDAY for $400...won't work for 3D movies. That $3000 HDTV LED you bought yesterday...won;t work either. Tell the average consumer that they need to spend another 3 grand and cables for 3D and $250 each for glasses just to watch and or play games in 3D... Good luck. The PC has been doing 3D gaming for years and has frame rates to match it. Remember folks, frame rates are cut in half so any game running at 30fps (99% of PS3 and Xbox360 games) will run at 15fps in 3D. That is craptastic
Ya cause you know, 3-d in the pc market is booming. LOL! Anyways, if the ps3 supports this Im all for it. I mean, why get upset about this if it only add value to the title? Oh and I think that the game is gonna be PSmove compatible. Have fun playing Dead Space on your mouse and keyboard. Its not the 90's anymore btw. Also, I think gaming on the pc is retarded unless you pirate your games. Then that makes sense. Just one question. Can i play MAG, God of War 3, Uncharted 2, SSDHD, Motorstorm 2, Gran Turismo 5 ect ect ect... on the pc? Then why would I care if pc has been doing it forever? When it all comes down its all about the games. Something you pc guys aren't really used to. Your too busy playing mods all day while I get a new AAA exclusive game for my ps3 almost every month. Ya, your argument is full of fail. Oh and 90 percent of games on the pc suck. Ya, even the most beautiful ones, Im talking to you crysis. And to top it off, 95% of the games on the pc, even the emulated ones, I can play on my ps3 fat. Have fun playing Crysis for the rest of your life. Cant wait to rent it on my ps3 next year. Edit @ Pandamobile I might be acting like a child, but at least I dont come on here going off topic like a flaming fanboy.
Lol, Blaster, you act like such a child.
@hoops You are wrong on quite a few levels imo... even n4g had articles about way cheaper and competent 3dtv . They are making a big push for it with events like the Football world cup as early as this summer . Just like they did with Hdtv in the past . Glasses dont cost as much as you glasses , with the cheap dirt paper one to avoid of course , but also cheap plastic ones for even 40$ , and a sony model at 100$ this very june . I'm not claiming 3d gaming will necessarily be great , but if someone want to be a buzzkill about something still very optional , till we can all drop glasses , at least he should use accurate infos on both prices and the tech involved
you are wrong on the frame rate 3d will be huge in the next few years its the next evolution of home tv they will push it hard to normal consumers (not us forum types lol) as its a new way to make money
@blaster - You really live up to your name dont you trying to blast away at everyone with your narrow minded opinions. See gaming is just a matter of choice. You have your games and we have our games. You talk as if had those games been released on the pc we would have been really excited. Well...you're wrong. Lemme see what all games we have lined up in the next 2 years :- Metro 2033 just cause 2 witcher 2 bad company 2 team fortress 2(i list this cause there have been so many updates it gets better and more fun everytime) crysis 2 diablo 3 civilization 5 R.U.S.E. portal 2 battlefield 3 starcraft 2 rage doom 4 half life ep3 CS 2(hopefully) splinter cell conviction dead rising 2 lost planet 2 dead space 2 natural selection 2 star wars the old republic brink breach spec ops - the line alpha protocol I'm sure i haven't listed all of them. Add to that the possibility of a lot of indie games, a lot of mmos and twice that many FREE indie games, shooter games and mmos and you have a LOT of games. Plus i havent even listed games like project offset. And before you bash me yea most of these games will make it to the consoles too....but i just wanted to prove that PC gamers dont JUST PLAY mods as you want to believe. SO sorry but please refrain from shedding ur worthless knowledge about gaming on the PC and stick with ur awesome PS3.
"1.4 - Some one help me understand this... Maybe I'm dumb... probably. But how is 3D on the PS3 going to work? Do you need a 3D capable TV? If so, feck! B/C I bought a new LED TV a few months ago, which is awesome, but can I not do 3D?" As I said above...you're rivered. That set you bounght that was cutting edge last week (LED) won't work with 3D...AT ALL. Moreover, Panasonic has said that you need HDMI 1.4 for FULL 3D 1080P while Sony says only HDMI 1.3 is needed. I guess we will find out when it hits... Regardless, you're TV like 99.9% of the people on this site won't do 3D.... 3D won;t be taking off anytime soon in homes.
why the trolling if the tv can do 120 refresh rate and has a port for ir input you can buy a kit to turn it to 3d for about £100 alot of old (non brand new) tvs can do 3d but it was just not marketed like most dlp tvs or 120s with the input ports but obviously it will be better to buy one of the new ones, i personaly am going for a 22inch pc monitor as alot cheaper and if i find it reaaly impressive will go for tv if ALL games start to suppourt 3d
I'll be picking up the Asus 27in 3D monitor when its released, supposed to be around $600.
It will for ME!!! Woooohoooooooooo
Exactly, just because noobs wont be playing 3-d doesn't mean I wont be. Regardless if it takes off or not, I will be getting my dose, Oh yeah!
Not really. It relies more on the 3D TV to duplicate and offset the picture to get a seemingly 3d effect. Using real 3D is more than the PS3 could handle (unless you like your games running at 15 FPS) because for real 3D, the GPU has to render the same frame twice at slightly different angles.
Technically it only has to render the one frame surely? I mean there's probably quite a bit of cross plating between frames so the console would only have to render one frame. I'm not expert but still that makes sense to me atleast. It's like with killcams on COD MW you quickly change angles...
If I'm not mistake, the PS3 3D firmware update will just allow for two video signals to go to the TV. The 3D TV then offsets the two video signals by let's say 30 pixels, thrown on your 3D glasses, and bam, kind of 3D gaming.
Good one Blaster...Thats why I game on my PC with a Xbox360 game pad..Or Logitech game pad or even a PS3 game pad....I actually have more game pad options then any console. Oh and consoles game at sub HD resoltions with little to no AA. Its 2010...Not 2002. My 9700pro ran games in HD and with 4xAA...That was in 2002. Over 95% of PS3 and Xbox360 games cannot even game at 720p running anything above 4xAA. How many games run at 1080p on the PS3 or Xbox360? I think it's about 2%... And considering PC 3d gaming is almost Half the cost of console 3D gaming and runs better then the console version, don't expect it to take off any better then the PC version. As for games? The PC has more games then the Xbox360, PS3 and Wii combined. AND they all run in HD at 60fps..You know...stuff in the year 2000 and not like 10 years ago. When your console can run AT LEAST 10% of its games at 60fps at 1080p...come talk. When your console can game using three monitors at once in 3D and with surrond sound. Come talk. Consoles are last generation..And I am saying this and I own the PS3 and Xbox360.
So you game on 2 different controllers, got a high pc rig, play every single game off of torent and yet you think that qualifies as having the better platform? ROFL! What the heck does that have to do with your gaming library? Oh, and btw, EA just found a way to do x16 AA on the ps3. Oh ya, and the Gran Turismo guys got GT5 Running at 1080p, in 3-d at 60 fps , also on multiple tvs so you obviously dont have a clue what your talking about. Im glad that you think I need to talk to you. Another chance to prove that most of you on here are freakin insane. Have fun playing your pc with hardly any great current gen games.
Yes Blaster 16xAA thats only used in a handful of games and its MLAA thats inferior to Super Sample AA. Oh and when you buy GT5...Lets see you play it on 3 monitors at once..oh thats right...you have no connetions to do that. As for "current generation games" Ya games sub 720p or 720p at 30fps. And GT5 is not full 1080p...
I want 3d without needing glasses for it. So the only 3d i expect to be using soon, will be the 3DS. But as soon as its possible on LCD/Plasma tv's without the need of glasses, i am all for it.
You guys do realize that in order to do 3D at a decent framerate, the normal game is going to have to run at 60fps, then be cut in half to 30fps for 3D, right?
nope, your wrong, when running at 60 fps on 3-d you do 30 frames per second per eye = 60fps. But ya, you guys all know what your talking about cause you obviously have done your research. LOL!!!
dont bother , it's like that 'it isnt hdmi 1.4" horse some keep beating up . Sony has already stated in a few videos demos , that among some of the solutions , the 3d video will be sent out via HDMI 1.3 at a 1.4 bandwidth . The PS3 already supports checkerboard output for stereoscopic games like Avatar. I wouldn't think it would be very difficult to do the same with movies. Not to mention obvious firmware workaround ... or hell the possibility to just release 1.4 ps3s . Might even explain the currently infamous shortage . Still I doubt many current DLP owners would shell over another $3000 for a sony tv, when a $100 adapter would be sufficient. And sony should be interested in being compatible with all 3-d sets . yep that's right guys there are already adapters coming for 1.3 hdmi sets ... like the Mits 3DC-1000 3D format converter in a couple of months around 100$ . And here are game ready 3d glasses for those who cry wolves with 300$ pairs without checking . 25$ the single pair . http://www.3dflightsim.com/...
http://www.guru3d.com/artic... There are other 3D solutions such as red/blue, but those are vastly inferior to shuttering.
you do realise half of the problem comes from drivers performance ? NVIDIA has developed a proprietary method for NVIDIA's GeForce 3D Vision that allows left and right images to be passed directly from the game engine to the PC display. Up until Avatar, this was a limitation criticized by the gaming industry because they were forced to use NVIDIA's stereoscopic 3D driver when they would prefer to have full control of the S-3D gaming experience. Anyway again this would be fine and dandy if there wasnt already games such as avatar ((crappy but still beautiful and well 3d...) handling 3d on consoles just fine , with a few drops in fps and screen tearing , that are more the fault of the dunia engine than the 3d part . Anyway this is the likely method for adoption within PS3 and it is borne out by the choice of games that Sony has demoed: WipEout HD runs at a minimum of 1280x1080 with its dynamic resolution in 1080p mode. Similarly, both Super Stardust HD and GT5 run natively at 1280x1080. The showcasing of these particular games suggests that there's horsepower left under the bonnet for a larger-than-720p framebuffer. The nature of stereoscopy itself means that the process of creating the discrete views for each eye needn't be too onerous: while two views need to be rendered, the actual differences between the frames are fairly slight thanks to our eyes being so close together: the frame is prepared once, with one command buffer, and then after it's used to generate the first image the buffer is patched with the other eye's projection matrix and it is rendered again. Compute-heavy stuff, such as shadowing, only needs to be generated one time.
Like I said there are other solutions, doubt PS3 will be using PC style shuttering, and its 1920x1080. I'm just happy there's a confirmed PC version, was gonna have to get it on my PS3, PC is my personal preference =)
dose any one know if my monitor viewsonic can do the 3d that ps3 is going to use it supports nivdia 3d but i have ati card so never used 3d on it.
Nope. It's the 3D TV's that produce the PS3's 3D image. The only thing the PS3 is doing is sending out a duplicated video signal. You can use a 3D TV for PC 3D, but you can't use a 120 Hz monitor for PS3 3D. The only feature a TV/monitor needs for Nvidia's 3D Vision is a 120 Hz refresh rate. There's nothing fancy about the monitors other than that. With the new 3D TV's there's all this crazy 3D processing that goes on inside the TV where it turns 2D signals (PS3 gaming and regular TV) into a pseudo 3D image.
For games and movies that support 3D, the PS3 will not rely on the television to convert a 2d image to 3d. It sends frame-packed 3D image straight to the television over HDMI. The 2D to 3D conversion can be done on any source...360, Wii, PS2, etc, but the effect isn't nearly as good as a native 3d source. But your are correct that the OPs monitor wont support the PS3. It was manufactured before the current 3D spec was finalized, so it won't be able to recognize the frame packed 3d material that is being sent from the PS3.
After seeing 3D today myself at a local Sony Style store ! I was sold on it and put my name on the list when there ready for sale ! Cause 3D movie/gaming is going to move me . No pun intended :) so we have this year form Sony is MOVE , 3D Gaming , PSN Preminum announcement and who know what Theyll have for E3 ! When know what MS will have , Halo Repeat YEPPPPIIEEE
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