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Does Modern Warfare 2's Success Mean Less Hardcore and More Accessible Games?

As developers and publishers struggle to recuperate both development and marketing costs, which have grown to astronomical heights in recent years, the games that they make must be able to reach all of types of gamers. While Call of Duty has never been considered by most gamers as a "hardcore" game, two upcoming and established franchises have taken the approach and revamped their entire systems to try and walk the line, in an attempt to get the best of both worlds in both game play and in sales, while staying true to the fans that got them there in the first place.<more>

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Johnny55137d ago

That was a long ass read. I don't know, but it sure does seem like the big budget games are all going down that road like you said. What's really more irking is that the games you listed are Xbox exclusives. Honestly, I think that Sony is the "hardcore" gamers platform now. The Ps3 is what the Xbox 1 was last generation. You listed splinter cell Xbox exclusive, and Halo Reach exclusive. And I totally don't agree if you lump God of War in there it was innovative maybe not in gameplay but it was something I never seen before.

eemoemo525137d ago

PS3 Games do seem to be more original. Like Demons Souls for example. You can put that up against Dragon Age anyday. And it craps all over Oblivion

Burn3605137d ago

PS3 Developers are no more original than any others. The games they are making are only better looking. And thats only a handful of titles.

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FanboyAttack5137d ago

Small changes like trueskill in Halo will not change the fact that its the best FPS in gaming for the past 8 years.

zeeshan5137d ago

The fact is that there will always be both the "more accessible games" and "the hardcore games". For example, I believe Mass Effect 2 is a more accessible RPG-Shooter game yet you have a rock solid RPG like Demon's Soul as well. People loved both of these games and enjoyed many hours of quality gameplay.

The thing that we all should be concerned about is why do games with multi-million dollar budget turn out to be glitchy? The glitch-flagship title has to be Modern Warfare 2. Not only did the game look almost exactly like COD4 but it also played like that. Now, I can understand that you can't change the gameplay to a whole new level (especially when it comes to the over milked FPS genre), but the fact that the game STILL suffers badly with glitches, that's simply pathetic.

Still MW2 was a massive success and it is not a good news because if you bought that game then you are part of the problem. You are actually encouraging developers to not work hard and put in half the efforts and expect millions in revenue. THAT is what we all should be concerned about IMO.

St0n3d Bluntman5137d ago

Video games have had a hard time becoming main stream because of the lack of accessability. I for one am turned off by the overall progression of some genres, but for video games to ever be considered in the same light as other media it needs to be more accessible. I mean everyone can read a book or watch a movie. Not everyone can pick up a controller and play a video game

avengers19785137d ago

Developers should first worry about making a quality game, and then worry about making it toe the line between casual and hardcore.
Devil May Cry series is for the most part a difficult game, but the second one was so painfully easy, because when making it they listened to the people that couldn't do anything in the game. Meanwhile people like me are cranking up the difficulty and still getting through the game. Maybe the answer is in the leveling system, first let me say I hate it when games don't offer a harder difficulty setting, Easy could be accessible for all, Medium still accessible but a little bit difficult, Hard Really difficult and not for casual gamers, and then Hardcore for people like my that have yet to find a game that is to Hard. Just think back to the old nes, atari days some of those games were impossible... They really have been making games easier and easier. I still love the Hard games, there is a great sense of accomplishment when you defeated a game that nobody else you know can do it.

socomnick5137d ago

I still fail to see how Mw2 was not hardcore.

It's basically COD4 but added complexity and a new co-op mode.

St0n3d Bluntman5137d ago

I agree with you that developers should worry more about making great games, but I think that some games a very intimidating to people. With advancements in AI games will naturally become more accessible. I believe we will someday have AI that will evolve around the players abilities. Maybe that's a pipe dream though.

mikepmcc5137d ago

Just look at Splinter Cell: Conviction; a prime example of an awesome, hardcore franchise going down the tubes to make it more "accessible" to children or something.

FragGen5135d ago

Anyone who considers MW2 a "casual" game needs to put down their internet and step back for a little while because they have completely lost all perspective.

MW2 is incredibly, crazy, non-casual. People who do not play it constantly and who do not have SERIOUS FPS chops will get completely and utterly pwned. A lot of people get frustrated by cheap exploits but it's designed as a hardcore game (as was COD4, which really is fundamentally the same) and generally plays like one.

If you're p*ssed about the design trade offs, tweaks, or exploits enabling some cheap strategies and exploits fair enough, but the game IS hardcore and is incredibly n00b hostile.

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ChickeyCantor5137d ago

note: more accessible =/= less hardcore.

FanboyAttack5137d ago

I don't think it's an exact science. I think like Max Beland says in the article. They are trying to find a balance that incorporates everyone. Meeting somewhere in the middle.

ChickeyCantor5137d ago

Nah im just saying cause most people only read the title xD

DARK WITNESS5137d ago

they may be trying to find the middle road or whatever, but they have not found it yet imo. while they are trying to find it they are putting off more and more hardcore gamers.

this is just my opinion, but I really don't think they can blance it like that. I don't see whats wrong with just leaving the hardcore games to the hardcore and then making new games that are aimed at the casual gamers.

whats F-ing me off is they are taking the hardcore we love and dumping them down. I know there are others who disagree with me and they don't mind all of this because it's to their benefit.

in the end though, if they want to go down this rout thats fine. My money wont be supporting it though - just like I will save the money that was going towards SC and wait till something worth my time comes out.

kenlawson5137d ago

innovation is all that matters. hardcore or not is only a term describing the gamer not the game. I do agree though that we see less genres and types of games.

shikwan5137d ago

is a hardcore game and look how quickly people buried it based on it's release issues, yet it has less bugs & glitches than MW2 and better graphics & more vehicle use, as well as more realism than Bad Company 2.

The hardcore generation of gamers is painfully dying...fast!

cheese5137d ago

Meanwhile ArmA II has retained its community and people have stuck with it during some rough patches because it's a good game. Operation Flashpoint 2 was not.

ASSASSYN 36o5137d ago

Flashpoint was doomed out the gate. When developers confirmed it wasn't going to have editor support for consoles, and weak multiplayer numbers on small maps it was screwed. I sat on those forums for months watching the game I and others hoped for wither away.

kneon5137d ago

I don't think the hardcore are dying out, it's just that their numbers are swamped by the casuals and not-quite hard core.

Dragon Rising is definitely hard core, I still haven't finished it. But they can make such games more accessible. There should be easy modes that are truly easy and hard modes that really are hard. I finished MW2 and BF:BC2 on their most difficult levels and it was hardly any different that playing them on normal, which was ridiculously easy.

Uncharted 2 is a good example of a game that handles this pretty well, the difficulty ranges from "very easy" to "crushing". Very easy is easy enough for most people to tackle. Crushing is pretty hard, though I'd like to see it get more difficult in UC3. Any game that I can complete at the hardest level isn't hard enough :)

solar5137d ago

my problem with the popularity of MW2 is that some will believe it's the new standard of how FPS's should be done. MW2 is a very noob friendly game that a 7 year old can pick up the controller and do fairly well. the game is too forgiving and promotes behavior that ruins the fun factor of what an FPS game should be. it was a game made for the masses and dumbed down to get the most sales.

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The Best Video Game Opening Levels In Gaming History

The Opening Levels that hooked gamers from the outset.

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The 7 Best Final Fantasy Characters: Unveiling the Legends

While FFVII ranks highly, there's more to the series than one game. Here's Chit Hot's picks for the seven best Final Fantasy characters.

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

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Einhander1972119d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus118d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda117d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B117d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic117d ago (Edited 117d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981117d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot117d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda116d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot116d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy116d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake118d ago (Edited 118d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay117d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12118d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay117d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183118d ago (Edited 118d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB117d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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