Seems Microsoft are having an 'information flow' problem. MS Community Manager Graeme 'AceyBongo' Boyd has just clarified what the pricing will be for the new 250 GB HDD in the UK:
Jesus. Rip off.
Damn you microsoft! Why do you have to be such F*cking d!cks? I can buy a 1TB external for less than that.
That is true, bur keep in mind this is a 2.5" drive, not a 3.5" drive. You'll be very hard pushed to find a 1TB 2.5" drive for anywhere near that price. However, that's not to say this is a bargain, after all we're comparing a 250GB drive to 1TB drives. Anything over £50 is a rip-off for 250GB, be it 2.5" or whatever.
You can put a 250gb inside your old 20gb caddy using a tutorial on the net and save a small fortune if you like however you will get banned from live for doing so. Talk about monopolizing the market.
@2.1 Maybe because they JUST started to make 1TB 2.5" disks. And even now it's only $189.00 on newegg. That's only $50 more than what they are charging here in the US for the 360 drive. Soon enough you will be able to find them for under $100. This is a complete ripoff by microsoft
"You can put a 250gb inside your old 20gb caddy using a tutorial on the net and save a small fortune if you like however you will get banned from live for doing so." No you wont, nobody has ever been banned due to having a "home made" HDD. In fact, Microsoft can't even detect them (or they'd just block them from working) and they have no way of knowing if you did it yourself or you're just a poor sap who thought they got a good deal off ebay. I've been running a 120Gb HDD for over 2 years now, on live constantly and never even had a suspension over it.
If on live more than one such serial will exist simultaneously there will be chance of banning.
Sure and that serial cannot be changed (the 360 wont read the drive if it's not correctly signed), but the HDD stuff has been known about for over 4 years now and MS has never so much as restricted a single HDD, let alone ban or suspend anyone for it. Yeah, there's always a risk but it isn't worth it for Microsoft to go after them, not that many people do it and if they DO do it, it's just more room for marketplace downloads.
Your damn right you could. I remember over one year ago, at the end of 2008 I bought a 1Tb hard drive for a little under that price in my region. However I do acknowledge that you have to take into account that 2.5 inch hard drive cost more than 3.5 inch hard drives per gigabyte. But seriously at that price that's extortionate.
I paid £60 for a 500gb 2.5" drive for my PS3 2 years ago! Jesus MS, only the connection is proprietary... I'm amazed nobody's marketed a case that could fit the 360, but house any PATA/SATA HDD.
Well 3rd parties would love to market accessories for the 360. However anyone using a non microsoft accessory gets banned. So much for competition, MS has ensured they can milk their users all gen long. Imo its very unethical to cut out the entire competition on their platform in such a way.
And bad for business. Allowing cheaper HDDs mean people are more likely to use the space - means more money for downloads via Live, and even buying more games because you could install them to the HDD. A proprietary HDD has cost MS money, when they could have just charged a license for "360 certified" HDD manufacturers. Easy money.
£30 HDD and £40 of odd shaped plastic casing. im an xbox fan and i cant justify this price tag or spin it in MS's favour.but at the same time i see a lot of ps3 owners say they have 500g HDD in their ps3..and i think wtf have you got on that?!i have an elite with dozens of demos and a few full arcade titles.plus 3 games fully installed.and 12 albums.i still have 40g remaining on a 120g HDD.
I have 500 in mine, but obviously I haven't filled it all yet either. However, I record almost all the Formula 1 races from PlayTV, and a lot of other tv programmes. Also, HD movies from the store, ALL my albums, PSN games (and game installs), YouTube videos, everything! I've used 319gb so far. It's just nice to know that I don't need a new one any time soon. To top it off, it only cost me £60.
Wrathman, thanks for not being a fanboy...for ONCE
@peptobismol it can work both ways.99% of these articles are subjective and opinion based.but the HDD drives in the xbox are the biggest cons ever.i own both consoles and love them for different reasons.the ps3 is an outstanding media centre for me.but the xbox is wot i game on 99% of the time.the ps3 exclusives havent been enough to change that fact.kudos to them games too.i still think LBP is the best exclusive to date.there is more to great games than graphics tho.and there is more to consoles than hardware. the guy above you filled his HDD with thrash and thats fair enough.but if you buy a slim ps3 or an xbox elite,you shudnt need to upgrade that.
Was that meant to say 'trash'? Might be trash to you, mate. But personally, being a huge F1 fan, I love having a library of past races at my fingertips. And having all my albums right there to be played through surround sound when people are over is a treat. With a drive any smaller, for example a 120gb, I would have no chance of doing any of this.
milk. i could get 1tb on pc for a 100usd. Clearly xbox 360 is the most expensive gaming platform out there, while it has titles running at 576p and RROD issues.
"Clearly xbox 360 is the most expensive gaming platform out there, while it has titles running at 576p and RROD issues." Yet, it's still in 2nd place. Says a lot about the competition, doesn't it?
Eh i really dont care which console is selling better, since owning any one of them would be the last thing id be doing. Its just odd to see people support a system which has faulty hardware and blocks out any sort of competition on its hardware accesories, tells alot about the companies business ethics. It would be fine if MS was charging 5-10% higher then market prices. Not 200-300% higher.
2nd place? Well if we're throwing in PC comparisons, then the 360 is is further down than 2nd place.... Ok, so I guess you could compare 360 sales to PC, given the timeframe since 360 release, but then it's still further down than 2nd place since the PS3 has outsold it when measured against the same standard. Either way, MS is doing with the 360, what Apple did with the Mac in the mid 90s. Apple nearly died due to their insistence on non-standard hardware and draconian licensing. 360 isn't big enough to sink MS for such reasons, but it's a big enough problem to impair their competitive ability. Given MS's claim about DD being the future - they need their console to include at least 500Gb and preferably 1Tb and it needs to be cheap. MS is doing neither of those things so I can only conclude they don't really believe in the DD model either otherwise they'd be prepared to take a price hit on the hardware. Ironcially, Sony have provided a cheap storage solution for the PS3 and yet critics claim they're "stuck" in the past using physical media. My PS3 has music, games and video on it, while my 360's 20Gb drive feels painfully small and that's with very little on it. MS need to believe in their DD claims and offer cheap storage, or support larger capacity physical storage. At the moment they're doing neither... r.
2nd place only in the US and UK everywhere else is constantly outsold by PS3 and in Japan its basically a no-show.
"Says a lot about the competition, doesn't it?" yes, it does....having a head start is a MASSIVE advantage and im sure all three console makers have taken note of that, especially M$ and sony also, when there is only one type of console to buy, people tend to buy that, isn't logic great? competition FTW
yep...tells you that the competition came into the field a year later worst is...this tells you more about the company of the console : MS 2 consoles...not 1st place once =/ if the 3rd console by MS doesn't make it to top, it will be another Sega (always 2nd or 3rd place) don't try to twist this bubbles =) you know this is a rip off and you are angry at it and letting it out on Sony xD
@champ21 Because is America, the only strong side when it comes to support Xbox, even if this have the worst technical failure in the history of videoconsoles and other issues.
That's pretty disgusting really, considering the prices you can pay for hds with twice the storage being much cheaper.
£30 for a 250GB HDD + £50 for a piece of plastic to put it in sounds about right for MS.
A PC was 'Personal Computer' and Xbox 360 was a games console have things changed since I woke up this morning?
last time i checked 360 was a 3-4yr old pc, just labeled and controlled by microsoft. Not being able to use a HD of your choice just shows how the system is controlled by MS. If ppl are happy with that, then no one should be whining about it.
Lolz, I've already had my 250GB HDD since last year :)
Only problem for Sony is Vhero is Sony must win the US to beat the Xbox360 overall before the next consoles are released. The US unfortunatley for Sony at this time is the largest Market and the UK is the third largest market. That' why this generation its going to be close in overall sales when this is said and done. Which is actually a great thing. Competition feeds the market...unless of cours you want Sony to destroy the competition.......
i really need a new hdd for my 360 aswell but im not paying that much for one. it's not me who suffers though its msoft who will suffer by not getting any sales from me off the xbox live marketplace. luckily i have a ps3 with a 500gb hdd aswell which i use mainly to buy stuff online with.
i just don't understand MS sometimes, they try to push DD but with limited and overpriced hdd's they're hampering their own attempt at dominating the market. less options/expensive add-ons only deter people from embracing DD as a legitimate medium.
what a rip off...too bad =/ get a PS3 and SATA drive for that much or less, 500 Gb =)
You are full of crap. YOU DO NOT OWN A PS3, if you did.....you wouldn't be caring about all these articles and trollying 99% of the time...this being the 1%. FACE IT. YOU'RE A TROLL...XBUT FANBOY, and you're trying to make face.
rip off it is,just like the xbox 360 wirless adapted being a 100usd. I can get another tb for my pc for a much cheaper price.
the orig 120g with the ps3 and a 320g external. and ive only got 45g left on the 120. and 275g left on the external. all i do is dump everything on the external, and leave the 120 for the ps store and game data installs.
I have a 500gb sat drive in my PS3 (I paid about 38.99) I don't fill it full of 'trash.' I fill it full of porn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again MS proving that the 360 is a joke and I feel sorry for the suckers that have fallen prey to them. Besides this argument has been around since the 360 launched and still goes to show that even though the PS3 launched at higher price and the price it's at now is still the better investment.
I have had a 360 since it's release and i have had to send my console back to MS about four times in 3 years, when their new console comes out they better make sure they don't have similar problems or they can count me out, i'll be going with Sony.And as far as hard drives are concerned i have the basic 20GB and the 120GB, how much space does someone need for gaming? i just think MS don't think of all their loyal customers when pulling stunts like this.I just think they should take a leaf out of Sony's book and SOBER UP MICROSOFT
this guy chats crap at game we had the rrp at 79.99 for last 3 weeks it not changes since it when from tbc.
typical microsoft keeping gamers in a tight leach like the dogs you are :)
wow what a rip-off, then again the 360 is absolutely $hite for media playback, so not a huge deal.
My PS3 has a 2.5 7200RPM 320GB HDD for only $70. Microsoft.... shame.
This is Microsoft's way of doing business, been this way for decades. I bought the MW2 bundle and found out I had to purchase a transfer kit separately. MS doesn't care for me as a gamer, only wants more money. In other words, instead of giving you a complete package, they split it up so they can make more money with the illusion of giving you 'options'.
MS's illusion of free choice.
One of the few things that i don't like about x360 is the expensive accessories (just like apple and their one billion dollar industry just for accessories alone). They should just get rid of making HDD (since i don't think that many people would buy into it) and just allow any USB HDD at any size (not the 2x 16gb, which is kinda going toward the right way), for the x360. Good for 3rd parties and themselves included.
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