In its latest financial reports, Microsoft revealed that over 5 million Xbox 360 units have been shipped, with 3.3 million being shipped in North America, 1.3 million shipped in Europe, and 400,000 shipped in Asia...
I thought they sold 5 million 360, not ship 5 million.
They also sold, read the article somewhere back
For a worldwide release and almost a year (9 months) isnt that kind of slow. Thats 556 000 / month about 100 000 more than PS2 in its final life cycle. No Im not flaming Im one of the 5 Mil. so keep your lid on Marty! Just stating the facts.
Depends how you see it. The Nintendo DS Lite is 129.99 and the PS2 is about the same. The Xbox 360 is twice the price. For some people twice the price makes the difference. This excludes games and accessories. If price is an indication of sales than I wonder what is in store for the PS3...
if people wanted an xbox console but they didnt like the price, wouldnt they buy the original xbox? The sales of those things are abismal, compared to the ps2 which still sells strong
speaking of which, even though the psone had a fantastic game library and was cheaper, the newly launched and more expensive ps2 outsold the psone briskfully and demand is still high today.
Shouldnt the same be happening with the 360?
You are counting a bit too rough on that one.
In USA it's on sale from the end of November. In Europe it's on sale from the beginning of December. Other parts of the world, like the big continent Australia only got it recently as parts of Asia like Korea. MS is thinking about launching in China soon.
So for Europe/USA taking the first months big chunck, its just one month in 2005 and we've just half in July. That means 7,5 months after launch. But the 5 million sold was at the end of june. So it's 7 months.
Now do the calculating again:
5.000.000 devided by 7 = 715.000 consoles a month. Take with it that sales are getting in higher gear now more countries get a launch in the last months and probably sales a month will be around 900.000 to 1 million from now on the coming months. It's uncertain about Christmas a bit. Two other consoles will launch, but Wii is just another target group. PS has bad yields on Cell and have no great exclusive @ Christmas to compete with Gears of War or Forza 2.
Empty shelves for Sony and no great game to stand up to those large games on 360 which will be produced enough to sell at Christmas when parents are standing in the shops.
Also, seen the pricepoint of 400 dollars, compared to lower priced other gaming hardware, those figures are really nice at this point in it's life cycle. I also think that it's not only about selling the most hardware. I mean Sony sold 100 million PS2's but a lot of them have been bought by people with those sh*tty DVD drives in their PS2 that gave up on them too soon. Highest attach rates for software and hardware are on 360, now that's important for MS. Games attach rate 4.5, hardware extra's 3 pieces every console, @ E3 2005 3 million Live users gaming online. PS2 1.9 game attach rate. That is giving one a real view on the succes of the console
game attachment rates dont prove anything because most of ps2s fanbase are casual gamers who dont buy many games
360: 10 gamers = G.A.R. 4.5
PS2: 30 gamers = G.A.R. 6
70 casual gamers = G.A.R. 1
PS2 avg. = 1.9
ps2 had a much bigger fanbase with the majority of those being casual gamers who buy fewer games. So of course the average game attach rate for ps2 will be lower
but all in all, its pro-sony because the bigger fanbase means more games are being bought on a whole 4 ps2
shadow, PS2 got such a big fanbase with the majority of those being casual gamers because the price was a reasonable 200$ with a respectable game library. The ps2 only sold their bulk of consoles when it reached 200. Which begs the question how successful is 600 gonna be. Even when it drops price to 400 in 2-3 years, what's that gonna look like when the 360 and Wii will be considerably less.
yeah but casual gamers arent too fussed about buying a next-gen console straight away. Thats why i think casual gamers will stick with their ps2 for a good few years.
Considering sony will be supporting it in the future, theirs no reason not to stick with it. And then when they think of buying a new console, the ps3 will have dropped in price and be loaded with games. Thats something sony has done right. In not dropping the ps2, like ms did with xbox
$400 a pop not bad. It's funny how people think PS3 will sell like hot cakes. This PS3land report is complete BS. lol
PS3 will sell faster than that.No doubts.PS3/Bluray are the future.
In the US, it was kinda bad for the rest of the world. Wait till the Wii and PS3 come out, when Buyers HAVE A CHOICE. Right now, its the ONLY new CONSOLE out, people like NEW THINGS, and when the PS3 hits, and Wii, the 360 sales will crawl.
Ask around, not to Sony fanboys, if they know that a PS3 or a wii is coming out. Better yet ask about blu-ray. Most people don't even know about HD-DVD and it's already out. That’s what makes you a fanboy; the fact that you follow Sony's product 2-3 years before production. Not everyone is like you. Most people don’t own HDTV yet; why should they spend $600- $1,200 for a blu-ray player. So, not matter how much you cry $600 + tax and $65 + tax for a game for a blu-ray player with gamming capabilities does not sound like something they have to sell their new born for. I'm not saying Sony will not sell well; there are plenty of fanboys out there. But let’s not include the average person; that work hard for their money.
Let's use the same logic; that price does not matter. The DS Lite sold 593,000 in June (USA Only) that’s more than the PS2 (312,000) and the PSP (221,000) combined. So is it safe to say that the DS lite is more powerful, have better games than the PS2 and the PSP put together?
I can't wait for November. So we can all move on and concentrate on the games.
The DS is cheap and accessible. The kids really want it, and the parent buy it for moer than one child. Little kids drop them, break them, and th parent buys it again. So, you cant compare the sales of a handheld to teh PS3, Wii, and 360. More to the fact, that parents arent gonna buy their 8 year old a 360 or ps3, its going to be a DS. Also, the psp is meant for older gamers, how many snot nose kids do you see with a psp. So, that logic is not really useful comparing the handheld to the consles.
I'm 24 years old. That is to say I am a mature gamer who makes educated decisions. I bought my DS because even though its graphics aren't as good as the PSP's, I heard from a lot of people that I know who have them both that the DS is more FUN. Since I game for fun, I went for the DS and guess what....I love it, my anti video game family loves it, and my friend who won't play games because they're too hard to get into LOVES IT. DS is sweet and my guess is that the Wii will be pretty sweet too. My point is that while the DS IS in fact cheap and accessible, that's not necessarily why people are buying them more than the PSP. And yes, you're right, you really can't compare sales of a handheld to sales of a next gen console. BUT you also can't compare sales of an inexpensive current gen console to sales of a fairly spendy next gen console. So enough of that PS2s outselling 360s garbage. They are in different leagues. Sorry for the multiple topics, they sometimes kind of blend together.
Bladestar actually does a good job of following the logic that was previously put out there. And me makes a great point. Nice job.
I had a PSP. It was recently stolen. I bought a DS Lite to replace it, and that was probably one of the smartest moves that I have made. I am a little bummed that I can't play Liberty City Stories...and maybe Lumines, but that is really about it.
I dont know who you are asking, but the people I talk to, who arent hardcore gamers, know a lot about HDTV's and high defintion. Old people might not know what it is, but from teens to people in their late 30's to mid 40's know it. And luckily, those are the target audience for these consoles. Ask most 25 year old about high def movies, and blu ray or hddvd they will know it.
I know all about HD dvd And Blue ray that is why I am not in a rush for the PS3. I myself am 25 with 21 years of gameing and I think that people donot game for HD they game for fun. The 360 and the Wii have been realy up front about what it is they are offering Iwould not be sprised if Sony strugles to sell the PS3 for the 1st year with out a dramatic price drop. Jin when you get your PS3 injoy it dude because your are hype a F*(K for this thing I hope all the energy is worth it in the end.
I don't want to go off topic. I will have you believe that everyone knows about blu-ray and have HD-TVs. I will also have you believe that people don't think about money and their budget when they buy a product.
Let me try another analogy, this type with a product that serves the very exact purpose.
Most people want high profile cars such as BMW, Mercedes, Lamborghini, Ferrari, etc. Who wouldn’t want one? (With the exception to the ones that say they don't because they can't afford it.) Explain to me why Honda sells more cars than all of them put together? Is it because of quality? Is a Honda civic better than a Ferrari? I hope this analogy helps you see that the price of any product have a strong influence on the consumer. The PS2 is selling more units than the Xbox 360 simply because the price gap. Even Sony knows this, why do you think they recently lower the price of PS2? Do you think it's a coincidence they did it right after E3? Why do you think products price are listed the way they are? (i.e. $9.99 instead of $10.00, or $599.99 instead of $600.00). Take Nintendo’s example, they know that as long as they create a console that cost a lot less than Sony and Microsoft, they will sell and stay profitable regardless of the console specs. To the general public $600.00 + tax means more than 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz, RSX @550MHz, Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g, 2 TFLOPS, 7 x SPE @3.2GHz, 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs, 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE ...
My son is 8, I've bought him every Nintendo handheld over the last 2 yrs and recently for his birthday he wanted a DS Lite...he can't get enough of Nintendo stuff....by comparison I bought a PSP a few months back and as far as specs go its cleary a better handheld, however the games I've bought so far are just OK, nothing to exciting or innovative, mostly I use it on trips 'cause I travel alot but other than that I really dont get much out of it, when Im home I play 360 every chance I get, while my son and his friends love the DS...they all have them, one of his friends Im told has his 3rd one now 'cause he loses or breaks his stuff....I've tried my sons DS a few times but I just dont like it much, I dont think I care for any handhelds that much really especialy when I have a 50" HD plasma tv, but for little kids its like crack....OK so forgive me for the boring story but the whole point Im trying to make is that general comparisons don't make a lot of sense when there are so many different factors like price, and who the primary target consumer is because parents will easily spend a $130-$150 for another console, rather than fork out $400 on a new console not even talking about buying new higher priced games...so basicly the DS and the PS2 are in different markets from the PSP and the 360 which are generaly selling to gamers that buy there own games. I know some will disagree but I see it everyday.
the 360 will do it again and prove you PS fanboys wrong "AGAIN"!
since when has an xbox 'done it' before?
you need to replace the word 360 with ps3 and it'll make more sense
i was saying the 360 will sell 5 mill again and already did and you PS fanboys got proven wrong because alot of you said the 360 didnt sell 5 mill consoles,and please stick to the topic and dont post if you dont know what you are talkiN about.
i'll write whatever comment i want, i submitted this article
chumpo ala le chumpette
besides, i dont think you're giving me my due respect for the time and effort i put into drawing the xboat 360 (the pic for the article). Darr be a classy ship matey
By the way to set it straight, the article states ms have SHIPPED 5 million 360's not sold. If they have sold and shipped 5 million 360's, then you wouldnt see any sitting around in shops. But...thats not...exactly...the case
In the mean time they already have shipped more. 5 million are sold at the end of june.
And Shadow Flare, the xbox has done so much already which can do it again:
- The first XBOX took a large share on the console market and became the second player against a second generation PS and Nintendo was left behind XBOX. This time it'll take pole position and leaves PS behind it
- The XBOX had better graphics then PS2, the 360 will do that again
- The XBOX had a higher attach rate then any other console before in games. 360 does that again
- XBOX took a major lead in online service. The 360 will take that further. Sony lied before on PS2 online service and I bet again they won't be able to catch up
thanx for the article and pic but i only said the 360 sold 5 mill consoles already and i think they will do it again and you said,"since when has an xbox 'done it' before?
you need to replace the word 360 with ps3 and it'll make more sense"so who's in the wrong?not me
in an article posted on this site earlier in the week it clearly stated that the 360 not only sold 5 million but it did it the fastest out of ANY console in history. And Micorosft now plans on selling 10 to 12 million by the end of the year. 15 million by May of 2007. Thats at the rate they are selling now. Keep in mind they are selling as much as they can make. So the sales as high as it is, is limited to what they can make and put on shelves. Once Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Halo 3 come out. It will be a done deal. Halo 2 is the biggest selling game in the last 2 years by far. Period. Sony will be lucky to have sold 4 million by May of 2007 due to high price and low yields on the cell and blu ray. Thats real. Like it or not. The truth can hurt sometimes when its not in your favor. Get over it.
http://www.gameshout.com/ne... The company has strong momentum for the Xbox 360. In its fiscal fourth quarter, which just ended June 30, Microsoft sold a quarterly record high 1.8 million game consoles, raising its total sales to 5 million globally.
Microsoft has sold 3.3 million of the popular game machines in the U.S., 1.3 million in Europe and 400,000 in the rest of the world since its Nov. 22 launch last year.
Xbox 360 Gamers have already snapped up 18 million downloads from Xbox Live Marketplace, including the latest games, demos, trailers, content packs and themes. At Xbox Live Arcade, where the company offers smaller games, users have downloaded 5 million titles.
Microsoft said its Xbox 360 game console sales will total as many as 15 million by the end of its fiscal 2007, which ends June 30 of next year.
those figures are not bad..lol !wait till the boss arrives then u`ll see crazy numbers ..
Yeah like only one PSZero for every town because they can't produce any because of bad yields on Cell 10 to 20 %.
Imagine those parents picking the presents @ Christmas. Empty shelves for PS, then the 360 with Gears of War and Forza 2
He is not a real gamer. A real gamer would not show sutch blind brand loyalty. I have had 4 generations of vido game consoles in my home and the only time I showed this type of stupidity was when I was in the 3rd grade and nintendo was all I knew. It may seem sad that King boy, Jin, and Achira, are like this but they probably have only seen PS1, PS2 PS3, thier whole life. So they probaly wont even be able to convice their parents to pay for the thing for that matter. And personaly the PS3 is not going to do well simply because casual gamers go for a good price point and game library. So being so loyal to a brand name can look sad but I see it is handy cap now.
lol like u? do u happend to know how many consoles i own or how many game conventions i`v taken part in hosting? please chill homeboy! and dude i`m independent ever since i was 18 dj`ing at london,spain,dc ..paris u name it..lets not talk about my salary now for one night
If you have so much knowledge of the game industry and history you would not look so foolish. All I am saying is you should make more educated posts if you are going to be so active on the site Sony has you good dude. I do not say that because I am an Xbox fan but because I am an experienced gamer. A real gamer has no problem with a console the problem is with the company who is creating the thing. Fan boyizim is not a good look for some one who hosts game conferences either so get your game up!!
lol i make foolish comments now because i don`t own the 360? that should be my problem not your`s mate..i even own a freaking xbox..really dude u need to know people before u speak.U don`t like sony now with ps3 same as i don`t like 360 too soo..
No need for any other comments thanks.
Hey kingboy, if your so world famous where can I buy your c.d.?
God hates techno...
God does hate techno. I should know, I'm an ordained minister. Know what he hates more? Pop punk and nu-metal.
please i`m not here for that anyway i produce,joints i worked on ..album dropping this september
if u luv being famous not me ,i do what i do best!!
The 360 sold 5 million faster than the PS2. These arguments are moot. If people use the PS2 as a benchmark for success , than the 360 at this point is more successful than the PS2 was at the same point in time.
you're forgeting that the gaming industry is a growing thing. When the ps2 launched, there were less gamers in the world compared to today. Do you think the sega genesis would have sold 5 million consoles after 9 months? So while your theory sounds pretty plausible (it had me thinking when i first read it), its kind of flawed at the same time
The game industry is in decline. This generation of consoles will be in less homes that the PS2/XBOX generation of consoles.
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