The inquisitive folks over at Ripten decided to do a little research on the failure rate of current next-gen consoles. Their conclusions should come as no surprise, with the PS3 resulting in a low failure rate.
That pretty much sums up the intent of the manufacturers. Quality vs Haste. I wonder how much it cost MS to repair and replace each console. $120? $150? $200? They're losing almost a half a billion because of haste.
The PS3 is a well built console. Ive heard the xbox 360 elite is alot better with heat and noise too, i'm buying one this fall, i just hope it doesnt over heat. Can anyone say if the elite is a better build?
wait for news of 65nm build, elite itself is only a slight improvement
[edit] as for the news itself, I certainly dont want another apparent time bomb in my hands even if its the best, btw can anybody tell me the status of PS3 Hardware Emulation in USA, I know they removed it for Europe have they done the same here? And one more advantage for PS3, you can get a used one without having to worry too much
@tatical, thanks for the info, I will most likely get one by this year price drop or not
XBOX 360 ELITE is the exact same console as the 360. The internal hardware is exactly the same except for HDMI. Microsoft has confirmed they're switching from 90nm processors to 65nm this year, so just wait for an announcement on that. The 65nm processors should run cooler, and faster.
The elite is just as loud as the premium. It sux at night when I'm trying to be quiet, you can hear it more than the game. Sometime it's so loud I think it's about to break(fingers crossed). I would definitely wait to they get the hardware issue fix and a quieter drive.
the elite is the same as premium, same dvd drive, same exact setup save HDMI and big hard drive. id wait for the redesign that hopefully wont sound like a turbine.
Marona: MS says revision that includes better 65nm chips should be out this fall, exactly when who knows tho i hope to god before halo 3. im hoping there will also be price drop since it will have been out for 2 years. would be killer move to have price drop and revision at same time. and good luck to you surviving "the lord of the red rings" lol
"...can anybody tell me the status of PS3 Hardware Emulation in USA, I know they removed it for Europe have they done the same here?"
As far as I know, the PS3 still has the PS2 EE+GS [CPU+GPU] chipset in the US and Japan. But, Sony stated that will change though (I think by the end of 2007). I have both the 360 and PS3, and Sony's hardware solution is WAY better than Microsoft's software solution (you don't have to wait for any games to be added to the list).
I own two PS3 and both running since April 24/7 for play or folding and never got heat problems or died. Stunning, perfect machine, quiet and reliably as any computer should be. Note: I was only able to get hang-up one PS3 with that stupid game Spider-Man 3 (twice), due to bad code and design of that awfull game of course.
And the beat goes on, the old boring A$$ song by the same old ignorant song writers. Now I know why so many mislead youngsters wind up dying in cults. Its their inability to sustain independent thought.
Jump on the bandwagon everyone, the M$ wagon leaves at 6:00 and the Sony bandwagon leaves at 7:30. Get on now and I'll think for you and give you something to propaganda to make you feel better about yourself. I tell you what, if you jump on now, you will not be charged...lol!
@CoolMatrix, below I'm not speaking to you, you already seem to have a nice seat up front on the sony wagon.
You need to get out and have an ale or two, maybe talk to some girls or mingle at a house party. Way too serious mate....relax - this is all about video games ~~ remember those?
He's sitting right behind the horse, oh no and the horses tail is up. Just where he belongs, actually maddenraiders, I have a couple of buddies with PS3s and they really don't remember video games. And that's exactly what they are doing, talking to going on text chat on their cell phones, and drink ale. Good to see you have experience that you can share with others.. UXO I do agree with where coming from.
Xbox360 had a year head start: Total sales around 10 million with about 30% failure rate give or take. Despite the hottest title Gears of War only 2 million copies or about 20% of 360 users care to purchase the title. ALARMING!!!
MS hopes that POACHING once PS2 exclusives would lead to more 360 consoles sold. NEVER HAPPENED, NEVER WILL! MS doesn't understand PS owners. We don't WANT A 360 - EVER!!!
PLus they are running out of successful PS2 exclusives to POACH.
What will happen then? What would happen if those once PS2 exclusives dont sell as much as Gears of War 2 million copies? Scary thought. MONEY DOWN the drain.
PS3 has already sold 5 million units worldwide and it still doesnt have a killer app yet although Resistance sold 2 million copies. That means almost 50% of PS3 owners bought Resistance compared to about 20% of all 360 owners for Gears of War.
Once PS3 gets rolling with its titles its game over.
The number dont lie. PS3 sold 5 million units averaging about $599 with NO KILLER APPS.
I would be scared if I was MS or Nintendo.
Wii only sells because of Wii Sports. No other new users will play beyond Wii Sports. The numbers dont lie. Gamers will buy games on Wii but new users will go no further than Wii Sports.
Dont believe me ask any friend or family member to play anything beyond Wii Sports.
PS3 has superior tech and superior build. PS3 wins HANDS DOWN.
Thats why Sony is not gonna waste their cash on once PS2 exclusives.
MS on the other hand is desperate. JUST LIKE POACHERS IN AFRICA...desperate.
But once you POACH there comes a DAY when NO MORE TO POACH and you roll over and DIE!
PS owners dont want a 360 and NEVER will no matter what you POACH MS!!
- http://biz.gamedaily.com/in... - PS2 Exlusives fail? Some fanchises have already proven themselves. Why not care about past exlcusives, its what made the ps2 great. (Like all those Rpg's for example)
- http://www.vgchartz.com/ you are right that ther have been 5.5 million SHIPPED.
Ok and lighten up a little, you don't like xbox360. Fine everybody has its opinion, but praising it to heaven aint the way to go. If you where a real gamer you would look at all the quality and mishaps of the system. Thats when your a consious consumer and a gamer. You don't follow it because ''ít is said'' but follow it with ''your own opinion'' look at all the consoles before you blast them, if you don't like em then don't try to find EVERYTHING wrong with it.
damn son. relax. shut the fanboy rant up. you dont like 360. get over it.
all the consoles are cool CAUSE THEY PLAY GAMES. and games are cool, right? thats why we all come to this site; cause we like games, not specific systems that we root for like cheerleaders.
are you the same moron I saw elsewhere. I guess its you Kenny/Jackie was talking about when they said PS3 will sell without games
@midgard229, you are a little misinformed about 360 but at least you dont mind getting 360 for the games sake, as for the broken PS3, if it is true, wow you sure got some luck there
so if u buy a 360 u have 33% of chances that u r gonna get @#$% up ur az...and just to think that a consider to buy an xbox gives me the chills. Even with the custumer service n suport the time that u spend tring to fix it is time that u r not playing. Honestly, no offence, puting a side the fact a am a sony fan boy, i dont think is fair with XBOX fans...its just insane.
Sony has had decades of experience with hardware manufacturing; TV's, surround systems, DVD players, computers and even computer screens. I'm not surprised by this news, since Microsoft, being a software company, might not have the adequate ingenuity to craft a system as robust and stabile as the Playstation 3. Shame really, since I was considering buying one but as long as there continues to be hardware failure on a massive scale, I'm going to let my PS3 have the room for itself.
PS: I remember seeing the video at www.smashmyps3.com where a guy had to hit a PS3 with a big hammer three times before it even broke. That says something I guess...
Never had a problem with my PS1, PS2 or XBox but I have had a friend who had problems with disc scratching on the original XBox.
I don't know how widespread it was but like I said, No probs with my original XBox.
I've also had multiple friends with disc read errors on the original XBox due to a crappy drive. The original had 3 different manufacturers supplying the drives, much like the 360 i believe. Thompson was the worst (which they had) and Samsung being the best (Which I have), and I believe Toshiba was the middle of the road.
so, ps2 & 1 where crap (but still good system), im glad they decide to do something about quality with the third one.
weirdly xbox 1 was rock solid but 360 is crap (but still a good system)^^
id love to agree, but my 96 PS1 and 01 PS2 still work fine; 02 xbox1 and 05 360 are both RIP. P.S. im not a fanboy, i like playing games on xbox better but wtf they are my youngest systems and crap out?
Sony should emulate 360 games on PS3; Bleem 360! hah does anyone remember BleemCast for DC let you play PS games on Dreamcast? come through sony ill spend a small fortune on your PSGeorgeForeman3 if that happens.
Most people are happy with there Xbox-360, I said it once I will say it again if it was not for the hardware problems Xbox-360 offers the way better overall package. The problems they are having are not deliberate, the games are exellent, XboxLive is exellent, the price is exellent, so they had a few problems big deal, i still don't want a PS3 so what does that tell you.
I could have bought 12 years extra warranty on my Xbox-360 for the extra I would pay for a PS3, if I now had to pay for a repair I would still be paying less, and to top it all off games look better on the Xbox-360.
the ps3 has way more stuff it can do, come on 360 u have to buy dvd playback for like 100$, they all blow up, and only have a little bit of good games, maybe 3, and they have been out for almost 2 years, 1 year head start of sony. ps3 is going to have a huge amount of good games by 2008 (1 year after its released)
im gettin a 360 for halo 3, DOA4, NG2, DOA code chronus, blue dragon, lost oddesy, eternal sonata, bioshock and i think thats it. but those r gonna take a while to come out lol, my list is way bigger for ps3
yo my 360 cost 400, live cost 50, repair cost(if i get it done) 140. =590, basically price for PS3. NEITHER price is excellent, what are you talking about? i know i want a PS3 if at the price it still works.now im paying same price but have crap hardware, no HD movieplay, smaller harddrive, oh yea i forgot i should be happy i get a "streamlined online experience" with 360, just cant play it cause 360 is broke.hah. Has anyone watched a DVD on 360?; seriously my PS2 does a way better job playing movies. i wish i would have waited. there will be a price drop and revision of 360 hardware; until that happens, id say who doesnt have a 360 now should wait to avoid the plague(or calling 1800 4myxbox).
my ps3 died 3 months after getting it, then sony gave me another and that lasted 2 days lol, now sonys sending me anotherone...i think im gettin the 1% that fails lol. i wanted to play NGS :( o well odin sphere should hold me for another week or 2 i hope lol
someone call the attorney general, no japanese company should be allowed to have a less than 1% failure rate, we must rise up and deal with these rip-off artists. 30% or greater is as AMERICAN as apple pie. Who do those damn japs think they are building a console that doesn't fail.
1% failure rate is good to hear, but it wouldn't persuade me to buy a PS3 over a 360 since at double the price you'd expect it to have better components.
My 360 is noisy, not had any probs with it though, and I am no fanboy since my previous console was a PS2, it just comes down to the games for me, I can't see how Sony are going to catch up on this front.
ps3 will also get 65 nm chips later this year. sony said there would be a switch and it might've already happened. 360 and 360 elite are basically the same thing. elite is just black, has hdmi output, overpriced uncustomaizable hard drive. Sony is known for making high-quality products. Microsoft is known as being purely a money making company.
and mainly in europe we can see that 360 nigthmare displayed in big malls, for example in Spain, in elCorteIngles shoppings, the 360 have a small corner with a few boxes (already dirty due to customers touch) and even the new HD-DVD player for it is expensive, 199 Euros (about USD$265) a piece, when in other hand we see PS3 there and everywhere beeing advertised and everybody asking for it and checking stuff around PS3.
But why so much talk about who will win if we all know that newer technology is always better and PS3 is a super-baby and 360 already born with "bugs" ??
In next 6 months PS3 will receive the first "real" wave for big titles, if PS3 is beating records, it will continue after that power keep running in reliable hardware as PS3 supply. 360 will never be able to compete, M$ keeps only marketing strategy to change the shape and color and push it to consumers, PS3 should not be never compared at the same (low) level where 360 is placed.
Your "story" isn't very credible and if that realy happens, probably you aren't doing nothing than trowing it to floor, why you don't specify exactly the problem ? fanboy ?
1%? That's unbelievable. Like the guys before me stated, Sony is, first and foremost, known as a hardware manufacturer so they know how to build reliable devices so this really doesn't shock me. I still got my launch PS2 and it still works fine when I used it the last time. I'm hoping to make it two in a row with my ps3 and won't belong to that 1% in the future lolz.
jromaro, don't forget the 360 has just as many exclusives as the PS3 has coming out in the months to come. As of now, the libary is nearly triple to one to the PS3. I have 2 360's. My launch 360 died because I constantly used the mofo for streaming music and pictures for my screensaver from my laptop to my TV and surround sound system. Plus, I used it as my DVD player. Now, I have an Elite w/ The Intercooler EX. It's a little bit louder, but the new Intercooler is waaayy better than the first one. STFW about the failure rate. As long I have a warranty (and a backup 360), I have no complaints. When Sony get some good games, then I'll buy a PS3.
U got more games but u cant play, cuz ur xbox sux..fix it...how long did it take...a month..dam ur frends are allready better at halo..o no! wait...theirs broke too!!..lol...no one is playing...get a ps3
How did this get posted again?. This is nonsense EB couldn't accurately tell us the defect rate one way or the other for both PS3 and 360 failure rates. Its like saying some workers from Fred Meyers came together and figured out PS3 has 0% failure and 360 9% failure due to their own volume of sales lol.
Although if i was a Sony fanatic or Sony loyalist or anti MS i would use this type of tactic to with imcomplete logic, theories and limited data to mold a perfect tool if getting beat like the way Sony is.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say EB/GameStop had ordered many of the launch defect units that factor in this supposed factual info from pre orders etc, People talking as if 360's are still being made wher they fail without a care from MS are only fooling themselfs. It will take awhile to phase these consoles out. Sony fanboys you might as well find something else for your dooms day theory what will you have after the promblem 360's are weeded out.
I guess it seems as silly to me as much as it would to you if i was trying to bash the PS2 to death saying it will fail and its a bad console even though Sony phased the problems out.
Microsoft has avoided commenting on the issue, has blamed the users for console abuse, and said that there is no problem with the consoles in the first place!! So tell me why fanboy's can't use this against xbots when xbots don't really know what it is either!?
Right now these stores are the ONLY sources anyone has right now and they are ALL saying that the 360 has had a high failure rate. So until Microsoft officially announces a failure rate, no one can say that the failure rate is high or not, but i do think that sony fanboys are well within thier right to bash.
P.S. I am not a fanboy of ANY console. But I do own a PS3 and can say that i have not had ANY problems at all.
Complete and utter bull$h!t my friend once again. Show me the fugures on ps2's dying. EVERYONE I know who has a ps2, never had it die.
I still have my launch night ps2 and it still works fine.
Therefore, xbox 360 is 30 times as likely to die. Since there are about 3 xbox 360s for each PS3 sold worldwide, more or less, there are almost 100 times more defective Xbox 360s in the world that PS3s! ;)
Sony says it is sold 5 million consoles. Pro-XBox 360 fan sites tells that it is not true - 'they were not sold - just shipped'. Nice =) Who should we believe?
Microsoft says that it sold over 10 million units. Nobody knows how many shipped. But now we know and it is confirmed from many sources (inc. next-door freak) that it has the 30% falure rate. Do these 10 millions include replacements? if so we got 7 million consoles. Meanawhile the only game worth of our WOW is sold in much less number - 2 million (inc bundled copies). Why is that? Then explain how many X 360s are sold, shipped or replaced in true numbers...
I really messed up =)
Anyway this is why i held off buyin a PS3 for a few months. When the Xbox360 came out you where hearing stories of red rings and other hardware failures almost instantly.
So because i live in Jamaica and it would be a headache for me to fed ex a broken console to the states to be replaired or replaced. I wanted to be sure that the PS3 was dependable.
I've had my PS3 for almost 3 months now an am very happy with my purchase. It runs like a Ferrari Enzo. I have no worries it's usually one for the whole day because it does so much it's always doing something.
this is the reason why ive stuck to ps3. id like to have both 360 and ps3 but the high failure rates scare me. im not gonna buy something thats gonna break right after i buy it.
maybe its better to spend the extra 200 bucks on a ps3 because u get a lot of the same games as 360, but a more reliable console. i dunno, i don't wanna start a flamewar. i just want m$ to fix this so i can play gears of war and halo3
I like the odds of my console failing being insignificant so far in all my gaming history i have never had a console fail on me and believe me the day the first one breaks i will probably stop buying gaming machines from that company alltogehter, so far nintendo and sony havent let me down and even though i would like to get a 360 eventually ill wait for the probability of failure to go down a lot.
I dont know if someone posted this here cuz i dint hv time to read all the b$. The reason it has less than 1% failure rate is cuz 90% of them units are laying in their cabinets gathering dust. Once there r games and people start using it then we'll see. My ps2 died 2 years down the road.
THAT's why there are so few sold vs the xborx360! <joke>
The PS3 is a well built console. Ive heard the xbox 360 elite is alot better with heat and noise too, i'm buying one this fall, i just hope it doesnt over heat. Can anyone say if the elite is a better build?
problems r over. I believe my ps3 isn't going to die on me anytime soon... unless KZ2 runs it down LOL
I own two PS3 and both running since April 24/7 for play or folding and never got heat problems or died. Stunning, perfect machine, quiet and reliably as any computer should be. Note: I was only able to get hang-up one PS3 with that stupid game Spider-Man 3 (twice), due to bad code and design of that awfull game of course.
Well done, Sony! And now bring us more games...