Kotaku: These pictures apparently show the guts of a new model of the Xbox 360. The important bits? The fact that for the first time the console combines the CPU and the GPU in a single chip. Oh, and it's small.
I'd want to buy this redesign baby especially if it has a DVD slot loader, please no more freaking trays and an internal power supply @ $130 and watch then Xbox360 sales KABOOM :-)
In price as well as shape, considering its width measures the same as the console's.
remodeling always makes sales go boom. Even previous owners make the jump.. like wat happened with fat ps3 to slim. Or people that are holding back after their last console died. It'd be interesting to see their announcement at e3
what well happen to all those HDD's ? anyway i dont know we've heard this alot of times but didnt see anything yet
i am no expert but cant they supply a data transfer cable that will allow you to connect your old HDD to your console and stream the data to it or out right copy all content to the new one? I presume the new one will either be 2 skus, Arcade (hopefully no more) and a 250gig sku. As for me, i am all up for a smaller quieter 360 because mine is still the november 05 launch model and we all know how noisy those models are. EDIT: Judging from the picture, the redesigned 360 will be very very small.
@God_Of_Epicness Your first 7 words where fine and on topic, the rest of them had nothing to do with anything at all.
Foxxconn needs to get there act together this is a huge leak. Actually this is more than likely a test board for bench testing. The dvd drive would be too close to the cpu heatsink and this would cause alot of heat. I also dont see a memory card reader. Boards are extremely expensive to fab out so this is real but is it a retail board or a test one?
if this was 130$ i wonder who the 360 is going to last for 10 years while losing its price too fast
wow it looks like it has a decent heatsink with fan this time. @1.3 dont know what you're talking about, the SNES had a slim version so technically everyone is copying them
So technically your comment is no factual
@ God_Of_Epicness how are they copying sony? you think sony are the first company to make a better smaller console mid cycle? **cough** sega genesis 2 **cough**
Looks the same size to me 0_o. Also I think it is fake, look at the image below to explain why. Also, this means that the 360 might be smaller, but it will be no slimmer, because the fan will make it fatter. Also this will mean that there's a grill at the top of the console to let the air out. http://i41.tinypic.com/wtva...
http://farm4.static.flickr.... Dead center baby! It's the first console I can remember to have a slim version. -CadDad
Nice Image, Gaffy, I agree it does look like a big fake, but one thing the image overlooks is USB ports the two "WTF is that?" bits could easily be USB ports (Current 360 has one on the back and 2 on the front). The rest of the image is pretty spot on, though - Coller Master? I don't think so, but who knows, I guess it COULD be a very early prototype or something. We know a Motherboard revision is definitely coming, the question is simply - is this it?
its still only a xbox 360
You assume the fan is on the same side of the board as the DVD drive. Rotate that image around 180 degrees and the fan is on the left, letting the DVD drive go snugly on the right. It would be close but not on top of the fan. The PS2 slim had a similar design. Also, vacuum DVD drives can be very very skinny.
slim always gonna be there since Sony always do it but a coolermaster fan? FAKE no way would there be a BRANDED fan inside the guts of this early model or not.
This Story and picture are nothing but a fake that should be reported and removed. I right clicked and "Save Picture As" Opened it up in Photo Shop and zoomed in. Ohh my what do i see lol 1st There is a Piece of main board missing where the fan/Heatsink extends past the mainboard. 2- The power for the fan does not connect to the fan lol instead they photo shoped it going directly into the heat sink which is not possible in real life, you dont mount power wires inside a HOT piece of metal. 3-the fan/heatsink used is not only a step backwards because there is only a basic heat sink with no heat pipes, plus its branded with a name "cooler master" Funny i didnt think MS would advertise for another company that makes PC cooling fans. 4-Zooming in on the main board shows many BLUR and CLONE EFFECTS used by photo editing software. There are several chips that were blured/cloned into this picture. 5-there is a quarter size hole in the center of the main board, if your trying to reduce the size of a circuit board you dont waste space as every inch is needed to cram everything together. Beside that I have yet to come across a Mainboard that has a HOLE in the center, The only boards i have seen with this hole are DAUGHTER BOARDS in DVD drives and older Hard Drives as the hole is needed to allow the board to lay flat over the motor hump. Sorry people but there will be no Xbox slim ever, maybe a xbox 720 down the line that i still wont buy however the 360 is basically done with revisions etc this generation.
The changes they have been making to the various chipsets to reduce heat and size have always been leading up to a full physical revision. The current questions are the type of dvd drive used and if there will be internalizing of the hdd. Not to mention the power supply. Ms could use either a slot load dvd drive or a slim dvd like what is in laptops. The hdd could also be internalized (which defeats the ability of upgrading) provided they make it a suitable size that may not require upgrading like the 20's and 60's. As for the power, the board revision will most likely require less power thus resulting in a reduced power supply. Just to also point out, go check out what ben heck has been able to do using the existing design and making the overall unit more slim. MS has been working on ways to improve the unit and reduce size, cost and repairs (RROD). I am betting there will be more at E3.
@Kushan - Yeah, someone else pointed out the same thing, with the port on the right being a Memory card slot. I just though that port on the right would be the USBs because that is how it is now.
Don't buy it the first year, guys. It may RROD again.
lol, sorry you guys make it so easy :/ On topic, why would they make a new slimmer sku when they didn't fully get rid of the RROD... Kotaku claims its around 30% or less but i call BULL on them. I don't see it happening, not by a long shot!
Oh MS hardware, this should be fun to watch lol, they cannot even fix their RROD problems and now they want to copy Sony
i think its disgusting that a company re-releases the same hardware only in a slim version,2 years after launch.in an attempt to get a sales boost...oh...wait.....
anyways enough for me responding to the ignorant sony girls on here...my real question is, if they slim it down or whatever, how will the hard drives fit?
you know Nintendo and Sega did slim models 20yrs ago, so isn't Sony copying them?
LOLing at people who disagreed with Jason 360. People, they DID have a slimmed NES and Genesis. LOOK IT UP! And by the way the RROD epidemic is long gone. I'm sure there is the occasional problem, but that'll happen with any system.
one of mine is a launch as well and when its on its sounds like there is a crew breaking concrete in my house while a helicopter is flying around my bedroom. but i wouldnt trade her for the world
i understand what you mean. If i get a redesigned one, i will just box up the old one in its original box that i still own. Won't trade it in for anything.
You wouldn't get anything for it even if you did trade it
will buy another 360 console, specially if its SLIM and at $150.00. My 360 rigth now have been baned for playing a "Pirate of the Carribean DVD". I will gladly buy another if MS also make LIVE free or at least cheaper. PEACE AND GAMING!!!!
the data transfer cables have been out since the elite was launched.
The 360 already profits with every console sold. This will bring the price down some more and will definitely increase sales. Once this baby comes out, you can put the final nail in the coffin for the ps3.
Sh!t I've been hearing that since like 2006. PS3 is still here and isn't going anywhere. In fact, expect it to grow in NA (more consoles overall in the world). I just wonder if this "360 slim" is finally NOT going to RROD, cause you know "things break".
How did Halo3 MLG Pro get those bubbles back? If the failure rate is actually within industry standards, and I mean seriously this time, I can finally get a 360. Are there any release time frame rumors yet?
The ps3 has been in a coffin since its release day lol. Dont you feel sorry for them. Last place consoles allways end up in the coffins first.
How many cardboard coffins M$ has mailed out across the globe?
actaully this gen has been pretty healthy for all 3 consoles, moreso than in past years
use all the nails you want you are sealing an empty coffin fool PS3 is Lazarus =) but you wouldn't know who Lazarus is do you? poor soul....
Face it, the 360 didn't win this generation. And neither did the PS3. They keep one-upping each other, with different times each console coming out on top. And I like it this way.
it just reminds me that the ps3 and 360 are getting dissed by little kids and their wiis
Oh please be true.
Yeah, it has got me thinking too... If they further reduce the manufacturing cost by launching a slim 360, then a further pricedrop can't be too far off. Imagine that, a new slim sku and a price drop. ... sounds like the ps3 last year, and we know how that improved the stagnant ps3 sales! In addition, Natal will likely capture the casual market when it releases. I was starting to think that it was only a matter of time before the ps3 caught he 360. However, if all of these things come to pass, then the 360 will suddenly become VERY competitive again and will likely keep the ps3 in third place for the remainder of this gen. It stands to reason that currently the 360 is once again outselling the ps3 in NA, but in Japan and Europe there remains a lot of marketshare to capture. Let's hope MS seizes this opportunity and seals the deal.
This model will probably be the one bundled with Natal, I can also see the price being $130-150. I expect hell I think we all KNOW an announcement will hit this E3. Can't wait to attend this one this year, it was so much fun last year. Can't wait to play the DS2 either, which if the rumors are true (again they are pretty solid) then it will probably be on the show floor lol
cuz i will buy one xbox360 slim with natal for $249 this year confirmed if yes 360natal $249 == boom sales wise bye bye ps3 move
I think PS3 move has impressed enough people to sell well, though if MS bundles Natal with a new slim line 360 and since it has more hype...well Natal will probably sell more. I think Move and Natal kick ass though to be honest.
yes it will boost for awhile! and judging by everyones remarks on natal 'not working as its supposed too' this is why theyre doing this, because the only way they can ship it, is by bundling it with the console and forcing it on people.. like the headset ;) also i'd say this is a rumour tbh, at the end of the day its still just a '360' and everyone will know so, the only people who'll want to buy it are fanboys who have just gotten the RROD.. but hey if its cheap i wouldnt mind getting one :) they cant charge 'more' for a smaller console, its not logical
So let me get this straight, from your "logic" it is a bad thing to ship extras with a console. I don't know about you, but I would probably play my PS3 more online if they would have included headsets so it didn't feel like a ghost town in every game I play online. Only a butt hurt fangirl would think it were a bad thing to bundle cool stuff with your console purchase. So getting two great games with a new 360 for the same price + HD cables + a headset = a bad thing? In the words of Ace Ventura, "Alllll Riiiighty Theeeen!!" I would have been a lot happier getting HD cables and a headset when I purchased my PS3.
I love my slim to death, but some Sony fans make me embarrased to own one....how is making a smaller more efficient motherboard copying from Sony? I guess pc hardware Copies from Sony too, huh....
Because everyone knows that making things more efficient copies from Sony, I mean come on why would you improve on a mother board? /sarcasm Seriously though, these 360 should be great for reliability, the Jasper chip sets already did an amazing job keeping the RROD away and since MS is actually putting these chip sets through test, well they should be even better.
Did you really mean Sony fans? Or are you meaning to say God_Of_Epicness specifically?
I feel ya. That is why I tend to side with XBOX fans and PC fans, hell even Wii fans over the extreme Sony loyalists. Some of the crap they say is downright fing ridiculous. They act as if though their piece of plastic is the end all be all of everything. If it had a slot for it, they would F*&% it, if it could go out on dates with them, I'm sure they'd do it, and so on. I love my PS3, mostly for blu rays, but I love it nonetheless, and I am too embarrassed to be a PS3 owner when I come on here and read their ridiculous comments, they know who they are. I would love to be able to discuss things rationally with them, but all they are good at is hating.
I agree with you about Sony fans, but are you guys really gonna sit there and act like there aren't rabid Microsoft fans? Because there really is no difference between crazy Sony and crazy Microsoft fans, and you're blind if you think that one side is truly better than the other. I've seen both sides say some absolutely ridiculous crap on this site...
will it be bad? dont know... do i care much, kind of, if the price goes down to $100.00 ill get a xbox360
If this rumor proves true I'd like to see what it'll look like.
why havent u got a 360 yet? what do u game on?
They slimmed the 360! Oh my god! I never thought i'd see the day come. Now all they need to do is add wi-fi and a blu-ray drive, upgrade the CPU/GPU chip and, develop some non FPS story based first party software they might have a chance of competing against Sony.
Sony has been in 3rd place this entire generation if you hadn't noticed. Sony is struggling to compete with everybody else.
the new slim 360 needs a cooling tower so as not to overheat.
Although I dont like the fanboyism in your comment I agree with the wifi and blu ray part
are you visually impared? im waiting for it to go down to $100.00 for mass effect 2 and i game on the ps3. playing killzone 2
Then play it for PC if you are waiting ME2, besides, better graphics than Xbox.
249.99$ elite/natal 199.99$ elite 129.99$ arcade My hopes/predictions.
I personally hope it isn't an extra $150 for Natal.
Hoping because you are in the market for one?
I fail to see how those figures make Natal cost 150$. 360 with no HDD - 129.99 360 with HDD - 199.99 360 with Natal - 249.99 That would make Natal 50 dollars not 150. @Pennywise - Yep I'd like to upgrade and hand off my current 360 to my brother so we can both play online.
You're right. Not sure what happend there, Maybe it was cos i just woke up, maybe i should go back to school. Pennywise- I might be in the market for one. They still need to convince me though.
base on your prediction 360 with no HDD - 129.99 360 with HDD - 199.99 360 with Natal - 249.99 (with no hdd) do you see it? 360 plus natal minus HDD = ($249.99 - $129.99) = $170.00 this make natal costing $170 more than the 360 with no HDD, therfore : ($249.99 - $199.99) = $50.00 so this mean natal only costing $50 more than the premium 360 with HDD, so I disagree with you there, natal does not costs $50 more, because the 360 starting price is not $199 but at $129.99, the answer is Natal cost $170 more lol even a 5 years old can see this out JK :P
Hell yeah dude, a price drop would be nice. MS would lead the way into sub-200 dollar current gen consoles.
@popemup - Where are you getting this 250$ for xbox with no HDD + Natal from? In my original post it says Elite/Natal 249.99$ Elites come with HDDs. "249.99$ elite/natal 199.99$ elite 129.99$ arcade" See? It says elite/natal very clearly.